I’m just feeling such a huge sense of relief it’s felt like the Country has been held hostage by the squatting PM. Bring it on Labour any day rather than these incompetent fools
@@sarangistudent8614grow up, he was an investment banker married to a billionaire's daughter. He would have made much more money staying out of politics in the first place, he did it for power not money
Really, although I think the Tories gave been a shambles in the last 2 years, Liebour will show you what a carastrophe is. Starmer, went against Brexit, supported Corbyn, changed policies constantly, took the knee and doesn't know what a woman is. He's a clown. Diane Abbot FFS
@@Charlieb6308 lol I love the tory attack 'starmer doesn't know a woman is'. What a complete non-argument and just shows how easily suckered in some people are to distraction tactics. Open your eyes buddy
It’s not about turning around the economy etc people are just sick to the back teeth of the Tory party. I don’t understand why Tories are unable to grasp this. We are fed up of 14 years of treachery. They need to go NOW
I'm sick of both Tory and Labour. I don't think that any one party should hold all the power and perhaps cross party running would be better.. I also hate that they get mixed up with the people they're supposed to serve and not the millionaire donors to their parties. We can't have governments controlled by the elite
@@jewelstar7537 If power was split between lots of parties, you'd probably get nothing done. There's too much grandstanding and rhetoric in politics to allow for mature agreements and working together for the good of the country.
@jewelstar7537 Do you pay for health care dentistry child care care homes.Is your water beaches rivers clean.Is you gaz bill affordable.Is your electricity affordable.Are there homes for your children.Are there enough police.ARE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBOURS HAPPY AND SECURE.If not then vote Labour the tiny amount of things I've mentioned are cast in concrete in the Labour movement.
No, Rory was a green supporter before joining the tories. He once explained ( on air) why he left the greens to become a tory.....it made no sense whatsoever. I would like to think better of him but his thought processes are shot full of holes, unlike Alastair.
It will go down as the defining moment of the election launch - haunting him like Theresa May’s conference speech where the letter fell off the wall. And things didn’t get better - witness Sky News later where the correspondent was kicked out of the Conservative election rally. It was a disastrous start to what will be a miserable campaign by current Tory MPs who are shocked and numb by this decision.
@@waterdragon2340wanted the electorate to see him as a strong man and the rain doesn't bother him. Or he was trying to show sympathy with the many homeless people.
The low tax, tough on crime tories have the highest tax take since 1948 and are releasing criminal from prison because there's not enough space! Oxymorons
Brexit was seen as a done deal for remain. People were complacent, especially younger generations who often didn't bother to vote. Please play the tories at their own game - get your ID ready, get out and exercise your democratic right to vote!!
Then give us policy we care about. I'm 20 I'm in university and to be quite honest I don't feel like voting because there each as bad as the other. They don't give me policy to hope about I liked the whole green new deal I don't understand why he would shoot himself in the foot by getting rid of it. The reason we are not bothered because neither side has given us anything. It's why you saw young voters go to Corybn because Corbyn gave us something.
@@harrylewin9162 'All as bad as each other' is an easy way out, but fundamentally completely wrong. Each parties' policies affect everyone, it's not just for 20 year olds who think the world them owes them something (I'm 34 btw). If you are 20, you will soon leave Uni and enter the workforce so think about which party offers better economic stability, which party supports renters and potential homeowners. If Green policies are important to you, you could vote Green or Labour who have plans for green energy, or on the flipside vote Reform who think it is all a hoax. I accept Starmer did reel back his green pledge, which in my view this is because he needs to carefully to weigh up how best to spend what little money the tories have left. Like someone has said, you have a demoncratic right to vote and frankly there is no excuse not to use it, especially when one of the options is 'NONE' :)
I hate this cop out answer and the cynicism in this country. There’s clear ideological differences in the parties, at least in their general aims. People who say this just can’t be bothered to make a decision.
The biggest problem Sunak has is the amount of money that the Govt has wasted and how much money they have pocketed. The brazen way they have shifted the burden onto the people in taxation and the lack of protection from the bills. The waste on HS2 and the mess they made with the water industry, Rail and everything they have touched.
@@___Rick___ Maybe Benny Netty will be invading Syria, Eygpt, Lebanon or Jordan or Putin marching into the Baltics states. Certainly not a financial or sex scandal we have them all the time under this government.
@@___Rick___ they have both missed the news, inflation forecasted to go up and no way will Rwanda flights actually go so he is going to say they will go....
@@___Rick___ absolutely, because the Rwanda policy will fail at the courts. The euros are in June/July and he's hoping a lot of people don't care about the election enough, but the older demographic who vote in the majority by post will already be done and sent
He has called the election when the schools in Scotland will be on holiday and lots of people will be away.. Please remind people to register for a postal vote
Yes, and at the time when A level students in the UK will be celebrating the end of their exams and University students will be celebrating end of year etc. Younger people typically vote left.
I've just finished uni. My last exam was today. My graduation is in July. If the Tories get in again I think I'll jump ship and move to a different country
I live and work in the UK, my child is established in school, family have moved close to us, moving would be the most disruptive thing I could possibly do. And yet, I fear that if the Tories get in then I'd also move country.
I think Sunak needs to leave toxic Tory party as he is too good for them. Tories is a party for toxic and self- centred people like Suella, Nigel Farage, and others like them. Rishi should have let Liz Truss and co do their useless gimmics and let people understand the real meaning of Brexit= Broken Britain.
I kinda know what Rory is getting at, when he says about the Labour bench not being that impressive, but if he was honest, would be able to name the last impressive appointment to the current cabinet. They are all highly questionable figures with the integrity of mobsters. "NOT THE TORIES" will see Labour over the line, while six weeks of being rubbished by Sunak will make it even more certain.
Maybe Sunak had a moment of epiphany, realising he should put country before party. Oh wait. He’s a Conservative. Perhaps that is being a little unfair. He knows it’s hopeless. Maybe national interest has been niggling at him. Had the Tories waited until November, the extra four months would have been a time of economic uncertainty. Business decisions would have been put on hold, the political parties would have been tempted to enter unrealistic bidding wars, the country would have been listless and lacking direction. Until today’s decision, a long and depressing campaign was in prospect. Perhaps we should be grateful to Sunak for sparing us that.
@@jaisriram295Yes, Labour allowed so many incredible hard working legal immigrants in to our country who worked as Nurses/Doctors/retail/ plumbers / construction workers and fruit and vegetable pickers. When YOU voted Brexit, so many of these hard working people went back to their home countries in Eastern Europe etc. SINCE Brexit, the “ control of our borders” under the Tory government has been the worst in our history. Illegal immigration has been at an all time high SINCE Brexit and under the Tory governments.
This timing is all about catching Reform out. They won't have time to get all their candidates in place and supporters knocking on doors. So it will stop the loss of the Tory vote to Reform where they are not standing. No need for a 2019 Brexit party type stand down. Just to be clear, I'm not for Reform, just calling it as I see it.
It’s possible but as Alistair is always saying, there’s guaranteed to be banana skins. All it takes is a whiff of scandal in the wrong place or a big incident somewhere etc etc. too early to make big predictions. Everyone said Major would do down in flames in 92, he proved them wrong
Here's to a Labour win! But I'm nervous: Labour should not rely too much on not being the Tories; I'd like to see Labour provide more positive and inspiring reasons, so that a more solid electoral support basis is built. Relying on not being the Tories hands too much initiative to the Tories (though they face the incumbency factor: when bad stuff happens, the party in power tends to get it in the neck).
@BanterRanterr Labour should prioritise economic growth and its equitable distribution (fiscal stability must be emphasised), increasing NHS spending and reform, building more houses, energy security, increasing defence spending, reducing pollution but in line with what people can afford (ie, Row back on net zero), and border control/security. A side reference to the security of women in public spaces would not hurt. Of course there is more one could add. As to Brexit, leave well alone. Yes, the May/Johnson deal is poor, but now is not the time to open that toxic can of worms.
My perception is the 'six first steps", "five missions" and rebuilding the country are significant enough and certainly more positive than anything being said by the Conservatives about their alleged "plan". Sunak has had nothing serious to say or to offer the country other than to try to repair the worst of the damage done by Johnson and Truss.
Yesterday Sunak must have accepted a job in America and has to have left his present office by early July. He will then go on holiday and recover before starting his new job. Why else announce today?
I’m not a labor support myself, but I actually think the labor front bench is pretty strong, especially when you compare it to the Tories over the last 13 years.
A surprise election.... he certainly seems to have caught his own ministers by surprise. Labour have apparently been "pre-prepared" a few days ahead of time.
@@kayess2634 I am a Labour supporter and love to hear his opinions, he would of been 1000 per cent better than Boris and would love conservatives to let him back in and follow him but it’s not happening , probably suella and maybe worse
@@johnbutcher2587 Apparently the Conservatives are battling to find people to stand as MP’s (I guess we’re not surprised) yet they won’t let somebody like Rory back in, to my mind a quality candidate, and as you say, better than last few PM’s. I hope that Labour will do better, I’m sure they will.
Things can only get better playing during the speech and it raining whilst Sunak making his party political broadcast during an election announcement was hilarious
In November we would have 1, Worsening NHS crisis. 2, Full impact and cost of Brexit border checks hitting. 3, Elderly (tory best demographic) less likely to venture out in the cold.
I’m in Kansas , but English from Norfolk. Recovering from an illness. Now my summer looks like it will be interesting, exciting, inspirational. My attitude to life turned around this morning. Love the podcast. Can’t wait to hear from you both.
@@sharonharris9782 I want to say ‘got on the wrong plane’ …or…’husband had a midlife crisis and wanted to moved to US’. Really more the second one. He didn’t like his boss in England so said he wanted to try US. I’d been to grad school in Kansas many, many years earlier and swore I would never set foot in the state again. Life didn’t turn out like I’d expected and I’m still stuck here.
@@teholmes7444my condolences. Of all places to get stuck living here, it had to be Kansas. I just realized that you must have to deal with a lot of MAGAs. If so, I'm sorry.
I'm observing from across The Pond. I saw a PM whose staff didn't erect an awning...on a rainy day...in England. And I saw a PM who's not smart enough to come in out of the rain. Not a good look. 😲
They're going now, because there's a few things that won't have fully got going yet - rwanda flights and the impacts of latest brexit related checks, and the wrecked agricultural output this year thanks to the wet spring, for example. Thus, when those things die on their arse, raise prices, and cause shortages respectively... they will spend the next five years blaming labour for all of them. I mean I don't blame Tories for the weather, in fairness. But for the absolute state of farming that means not only will we get shortages but a ton more farms will fully go under...? Yeah, the Tories own that for sure.
Rwanda flights can't happen now, even if they were to be legal. Election period purdah would surely prevent officials and ministers from taking those decisions, especially with how vociferous Labour's opposition to the policy has been.
Locally, there’s a lot of noise about Bagge upsetting Truss’s seat. The family are well known for raising charitable funds. It’ll still be like having a Tory though despite having to stand as an independent.
I have a lot of confidence in the Labour front bench actually. (I've never voted for either of your parties though - lol). But I think it is necessary to say "Register to vote, Get ID to vote, and on the day, get out and Vote". Say it lots.
At question time Starmer looked and sounded like the Prime Minister with his opening remarks it was obvious from the faces of Sunak and Dowden that something was up! They looked like rabbits in the headlights!
I read your Guardian article today, Rory, and although i'm a Labour supporter, I've always had time for you as you've always come across as a thoughtful, compassionate Conservative and a lot of other readers had commented similarly on the article. I would encourage you to return to politics because I think a lot needs to change in our politics. Although, as you pointed out in your article that so much of British politics now is short term thinking, I think we do need a more level (less extreme) politics and the only way to achieve that, is from within
So, was the fact that Scottish schools will be on the summer break a factor in Sunak’s decision. Labour will need to do well in Scotland. Can’t wait to (hopefully) get rid of the worst government in my nearly 70 year lifetime.
Given how many schools usually have to close to be polling stations surely having an election in the school holidays is actually a good thing. If people are going to be away from home they can get a postal/proxy vote.
@@DylanSargessonYou are right, but lots of people are away on holiday during school holidays and many won’t be bothered to get a postal vote. Voter apathy and inertia is always a problem with elections, whether local or national.
Agree massively on the point around policy: I want to read details on where the money will go to improve our lives: More specific issues: for example How to improve maternity & paternity rights? How will we push failing schools up in standard ? How we will access more medical specialists / reduce time for scans? Prison reform and plans to reduce reoffending stats? How will a nationalised energy firm reduce costs to the consumer? How will a nationalised train system reduce delays and costs to the consumer? How will we increase green energy schemes? There's lots of these specific questions that we need to get into more detail on. I don't want to hear bylines on stability and attacks on parties. Can we talk about the real ways our lives can be made better.
James Cleverley is an appalling constituency MP. He’s hardly ever in his constituency, doesn’t reply to e mails that his constituents send him and doesn’t attend local civic events. He doesn’t know how to conduct himself in Parliament (the Shithole comment) talked about drugging his wife, he is only interested in furthering his own career. He swaps allegiances at the drop of a feather and has no principles. He would be a disasterous leader of the Conservatives and an even worse opposition leader. Rory needs to look beyond the military service and remember what that man did to get his safe seat, acting as Boris’s hatchet man on the LFCDA.
Watching Sunak announcing the election I kept thinking of something my father would say of people he thought were dumb, "He does not have the sense to get in out of the rain.'
I have listened to Tory MPs reacting on TV to Sunak calling a general election and the sense of entitlement oozing out of their mouths is truly breathtaking ! They still think it’s all going to be fine and they will win on July 4th because even though Britain is broken and nothing works anymore they are so contemptuous of the voting public that they smugly think no one blames them for it
Already summer holidays in NI and Scotland and for uni students who’ll be away from their uni constituencies… way to neutralise/disenfranchise a group of younger voters…
The announcement together with what Senior Tories have said privately show what an absolute mess this government is in. More of a resignation today than a start of an election drive.
Waiting until winter gets under way would have been a disaster. The problems with the NHS which are high in the consciousness of the electorate will; be worse this winter. July will set temperature records. The electorate will notice that but by then the election will be past.
The Conservatives are able to gasp the patriotic vote much better so with the summer sun less electricity and gas so lesser bills. Summer sun making people happier and the Euro starting a week after so the usual patriotic build up
Perhaps all the compensation payments in the pipeline which rules out any tax cuts he’s decided to cut and run. After all a better life and job await him and if he can do as little as Paula in any new job he’s in for a nice lazy life.
Can I just thank you AC for how Gordon Brown left Downing Street. Dignity, holding hands with his kids. While Nick Clegg was doing the dirty with the Tories.
I suspect they will hold that one as a carrot for re-election along with closer ties to Europe. The idea behind the first term is to get into power, establish themselves as trustworthy by not over-promising and then with the public trusting them more add these sort of policies to seal the deal for a second term.
@@samuelmelton8353so you think it would good for Labour to be in power but not have the numbers to pass any legislation? Pretty deranged - not interested in solving crime, education, healthcare, economy for another 5 years?
@@dominicbritt The changes needed across all these areas will take a huge amount of the national buy in across a broad swathe of voters. Cooperation and Collaboration is the way to make this happen, otherwise it's just a One Party state imposing it's will on the people and a recipe for an election loss in 2029. Labour will need at least two terms to make a serious dent in these issues, so they might as well get with the program and learn to share power to get stuff done, for all our sakes. We've already lost a generation, let's not make it two. Labour does not have a monopoly on solutions, and to unravel the mess that they will inherit will need the best minds from across our nation and beyond.
Politicians like to talk about fixing the roof when the sun is shining, but the reality is that the roof was blown off in 2016, (it had already lost a lot of slates after 2008) and despite it raining almost continuously since then, the current UK government has made almost no real effort to replace the roof. Instead they decamped to their second home, leaving the rest of us to endure the 'weather.'
They've had 14 years of disastrous ones at that, why on earth would people vote for more disaster with the Tories. It's been a long time coming a change is gonna come
“That’s not going to happen, because I am not running” says Rory when AC suggests he could be Tory leader. Even if you were running you’ll have no chance !
I’m just feeling such a huge sense of relief it’s felt like the Country has been held hostage by the squatting PM. Bring it on Labour any day rather than these incompetent fools
No, how are islmaists better than incompetents? They will destroy the country to the point of no return
Was a Tory for 40 years - Can't wait to see them go.
Been saying for a while now that even Tory voters must be going "I sure as hell didn't vote for this shower of shoes"
@@dawnlizreads I didn't vote for these b****** to take away my European passport. I'm still p***d off.
Well done sir!
I don’t think these are tories though, these are crooks and chancers. I don’t like the tories, but I hope they come back.
@@dawnlizreadsThey kind of did though. We all knew Johnson was terrible.
short answer: Sunak has had enough of the BS, he's off to California.
My thoughts exactly. He’s fed up and wants to be in California by Christmas. I don’t think he wants to win.
@@10whiten99 Neither do the Tories, remember 1992.
He’s made his millions from the gig, up £120MILLION from last year. He’s done what he had to.
Once he confirmed his residency in the US, got his book deal signed off and his kids schooling etc he called the election. He’s out of here….😊
@@sarangistudent8614grow up, he was an investment banker married to a billionaire's daughter. He would have made much more money staying out of politics in the first place, he did it for power not money
Whoever arranged Things Can Only Get Better during the speech should be knighted by Starmer!! What a hilarious shambles of a goodbye speech
Sunak could only get wetter
Really, although I think the Tories gave been a shambles in the last 2 years, Liebour will show you what a carastrophe is. Starmer, went against Brexit, supported Corbyn, changed policies constantly, took the knee and doesn't know what a woman is. He's a clown. Diane Abbot FFS
@@Charlieb6308 do you feel better for that, and only been awake for 2yrs
It was Steve Bray (stop brexit man)
@@Charlieb6308 lol I love the tory attack 'starmer doesn't know a woman is'. What a complete non-argument and just shows how easily suckered in some people are to distraction tactics. Open your eyes buddy
It’s not about turning around the economy etc people are just sick to the back teeth of the Tory party. I don’t understand why Tories are unable to grasp this. We are fed up of 14 years of treachery. They need to go NOW
I'm sick of both Tory and Labour. I don't think that any one party should hold all the power and perhaps cross party running would be better.. I also hate that they get mixed up with the people they're supposed to serve and not the millionaire donors to their parties. We can't have governments controlled by the elite
So Starmer take note.....don't mistake a victory for Labour as an endorsement. It's just a huge anti Tory vote.
@@jewelstar7537 If power was split between lots of parties, you'd probably get nothing done.
There's too much grandstanding and rhetoric in politics to allow for mature agreements and working together for the good of the country.
Of course it is the economy screwed every tory Gov in history has done that.Its their thing,its called capitalism.
@jewelstar7537 Do you pay for health care dentistry child care care homes.Is your water beaches rivers clean.Is you gaz bill affordable.Is your electricity affordable.Are there homes for your children.Are there enough police.ARE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBOURS HAPPY AND SECURE.If not then vote Labour the tiny amount of things I've mentioned are cast in concrete in the Labour movement.
"Labour hasn't got a plan" says the man without an umbrella
It is summer. Surely, he could've waited for a sunny day, or a few hours at least. When it rains, it pours. Sums up this current government.
They are desperate to win the Muslim vote. God help the British voter. Things are going to get bloody worse.
I find it funny that the Tories took a few plans from Labor the last 14 years as well.
Labour does not need a plan - this one election that they cannot lose
The state of the Tory party is exemplified by the fact that sane Tories like Rory are no longer in the party
Similar to Republicans in USA , interesting 🤔 both relying on culture wars?
He is the only Tory I would ever have voted for.
Lol sane tory, Rory was for the dementia tax
No, Rory was a green supporter before joining the tories. He once explained ( on air) why he left the greens to become a tory.....it made no sense whatsoever. I would like to think better of him but his thought processes are shot full of holes, unlike Alastair.
He's too wet, even for the Blairite Consocialists
May I say, how refreshing it is to see two people speaking, agreeing and disagreeing in a respectful and polite manner.
This way his kids can start the new school year in California....
Was exactly my thought and it shows where his priorities are. It is even understandable in his position.
Good riddance to this Evil Cancer
Soggy Sunak is an enduring image that will remain with me. He can't get anything right at all.
hahahahahaha
"Tory wet" screams ghost of Thatcher
I astonished myself by feeling sorry for him. Surely downing St owns a brolly
It will go down as the defining moment of the election launch - haunting him like Theresa May’s conference speech where the letter fell off the wall. And things didn’t get better - witness Sky News later where the correspondent was kicked out of the Conservative election rally. It was a disastrous start to what will be a miserable campaign by current Tory MPs who are shocked and numb by this decision.
@@waterdragon2340wanted the electorate to see him as a strong man and the rain doesn't bother him. Or he was trying to show sympathy with the many homeless people.
So pleased it's been called and about time. Now Sunak & cronies ....GET OUT!
The low tax, tough on crime tories have the highest tax take since 1948 and are releasing criminal from prison because there's not enough space! Oxymorons
Brexit was seen as a done deal for remain. People were complacent, especially younger generations who often didn't bother to vote. Please play the tories at their own game - get your ID ready, get out and exercise your democratic right to vote!!
Then give us policy we care about. I'm 20 I'm in university and to be quite honest I don't feel like voting because there each as bad as the other. They don't give me policy to hope about I liked the whole green new deal I don't understand why he would shoot himself in the foot by getting rid of it. The reason we are not bothered because neither side has given us anything. It's why you saw young voters go to Corybn because Corbyn gave us something.
@@harrylewin9162Sorry but this is not a valid reason for not voting. People campaigned and died to give you that vote.
They're.... Good luck.
@@harrylewin9162 'All as bad as each other' is an easy way out, but fundamentally completely wrong. Each parties' policies affect everyone, it's not just for 20 year olds who think the world them owes them something (I'm 34 btw). If you are 20, you will soon leave Uni and enter the workforce so think about which party offers better economic stability, which party supports renters and potential homeowners. If Green policies are important to you, you could vote Green or Labour who have plans for green energy, or on the flipside vote Reform who think it is all a hoax. I accept Starmer did reel back his green pledge, which in my view this is because he needs to carefully to weigh up how best to spend what little money the tories have left. Like someone has said, you have a demoncratic right to vote and frankly there is no excuse not to use it, especially when one of the options is 'NONE' :)
I hate this cop out answer and the cynicism in this country. There’s clear ideological differences in the parties, at least in their general aims. People who say this just can’t be bothered to make a decision.
Is it so his kids can start with the new school year in California in September, rather than having to move mid-term
Because they don't need any more disadvantages than they have already? 🤣
As someone in the Guardian put it... "Things can only get Wetter!"
A pint for the madlad that blasted Things Can Only Get Better as Rishi got blasted by the gods.
The fabulous Steve Bray👏👏👏 Rain or shine he's there, and played a blinder today with blasting that song over the top of Sunaks speech!
The biggest problem Sunak has is the amount of money that the Govt has wasted and how much money they have pocketed. The brazen way they have shifted the burden onto the people in taxation and the lack of protection from the bills. The waste on HS2 and the mess they made with the water industry, Rail and everything they have touched.
Lets face it, Rishi doesn't need the job 😆
Interesting: Rory & Phil are both such acute political analysts that both dismissed the idea of a July 4th Election because it's completely mad. 😂
Perhaps Sunak knows some further bad news is coming down the line.
@@___Rick___well yes. There's only bad news at the moment.
@@___Rick___ Maybe Benny Netty will be invading Syria, Eygpt, Lebanon or Jordan or Putin marching into the Baltics states. Certainly not a financial or sex scandal we have them all the time under this government.
@@___Rick___ they have both missed the news, inflation forecasted to go up and no way will Rwanda flights actually go so he is going to say they will go....
@@___Rick___ absolutely, because the Rwanda policy will fail at the courts. The euros are in June/July and he's hoping a lot of people don't care about the election enough, but the older demographic who vote in the majority by post will already be done and sent
The best meme about it I saw was a quote from Withnail & I, "We've called an election by mistake".
Thanks to you both for being voices of sanity in this crazy time!
He has called the election when the schools in Scotland will be on holiday and lots of people will be away.. Please remind people to register for a postal vote
Yes, and at the time when A level students in the UK will be celebrating the end of their exams and University students will be celebrating end of year etc. Younger people typically vote left.
So the man with a plan didn't plan for an umbrella
Another pair of expensive trousers shrunk.
Even Steve McLaren had a brolly.
@@annphillips1086😂😂😂👍
I've just finished uni. My last exam was today. My graduation is in July. If the Tories get in again I think I'll jump ship and move to a different country
Yes, my daughter went to Canada and I’m really pleased because it offers them a better life than here. I miss her but she’s better off.
I live and work in the UK, my child is established in school, family have moved close to us, moving would be the most disruptive thing I could possibly do. And yet, I fear that if the Tories get in then I'd also move country.
@@debb6393Ditto mine to Australia and no regrets.
I've started to think that Sunak isn't very good at politics. Can''t think why, just a feeling!
🤔😂😂😂
I think Sunak needs to leave toxic Tory party as he is too good for them. Tories is a party for toxic and self- centred people like Suella, Nigel Farage, and others like them. Rishi should have let Liz Truss and co do their useless gimmics and let people understand the real meaning of Brexit= Broken Britain.
I kinda know what Rory is getting at, when he says about the Labour bench not being that impressive, but if he was honest, would be able to name the last impressive appointment to the current cabinet. They are all highly questionable figures with the integrity of mobsters. "NOT THE TORIES" will see Labour over the line, while six weeks of being rubbished by Sunak will make it even more certain.
Maybe Sunak had a moment of epiphany, realising he should put country before party. Oh wait. He’s a Conservative. Perhaps that is being a little unfair. He knows it’s hopeless. Maybe national interest has been niggling at him. Had the Tories waited until November, the extra four months would have been a time of economic uncertainty. Business decisions would have been put on hold, the political parties would have been tempted to enter unrealistic bidding wars, the country would have been listless and lacking direction. Until today’s decision, a long and depressing campaign was in prospect. Perhaps we should be grateful to Sunak for sparing us that.
As opposed to mass uncontrolled immigration from the Labour party? Benefits Britain...yeah Labour are loads better 😂😂😂
What's hilarious is you actually believe that.
@@jaisriram295 Ah yes, because immigration reached 1million under labour...oh wait, this was under the tories. Knobhead
@@jaisriram295Yes, Labour allowed so many incredible hard working legal immigrants in to our country who worked as Nurses/Doctors/retail/ plumbers / construction workers and fruit and vegetable pickers. When YOU voted Brexit, so many of these hard working people went back to their home countries in Eastern Europe etc.
SINCE Brexit, the “ control of our borders” under the Tory government has been the worst in our history. Illegal immigration has been at an all time high SINCE Brexit and under the Tory governments.
This timing is all about catching Reform out. They won't have time to get all their candidates in place and supporters knocking on doors. So it will stop the loss of the Tory vote to Reform where they are not standing. No need for a 2019 Brexit party type stand down. Just to be clear, I'm not for Reform, just calling it as I see it.
If they aren't stupid surely they should of been ready for it to happen anytime?
Sound theory to be fair, damage limitation.
This is the most convincing of all the arguments I've heard on the timing
@@adam7802 theyve only just got through the locals. They simply dont have the numbers needed to compete nationally
I reckon that's a significant part of it.
FINALLY AN ELECTION
Economy does or doesn't do better, inflation be damned, everyone needs to vote the Tories out
My gut feeling is that the Tories will be beaten far heavier than the polls currently show
Long campaign and plenty of money
Let's hope so
I hope your guts are right.
We already saw in the local elections what will happen
It’s possible but as Alistair is always saying, there’s guaranteed to be banana skins. All it takes is a whiff of scandal in the wrong place or a big incident somewhere etc etc. too early to make big predictions. Everyone said Major would do down in flames in 92, he proved them wrong
Here's to a Labour win! But I'm nervous: Labour should not rely too much on not being the Tories; I'd like to see Labour provide more positive and inspiring reasons, so that a more solid electoral support basis is built. Relying on not being the Tories hands too much initiative to the Tories (though they face the incumbency factor: when bad stuff happens, the party in power tends to get it in the neck).
The main priorities for now should be cheaper energy and food, as well as soft Brexit, since no one voted for the extreme tory no-deal Brexit 🤷♂️.
@BanterRanterr Labour should prioritise economic growth and its equitable distribution (fiscal stability must be emphasised), increasing NHS spending and reform, building more houses, energy security, increasing defence spending, reducing pollution but in line with what people can afford (ie, Row back on net zero), and border control/security. A side reference to the security of women in public spaces would not hurt. Of course there is more one could add. As to Brexit, leave well alone. Yes, the May/Johnson deal is poor, but now is not the time to open that toxic can of worms.
My perception is the 'six first steps", "five missions" and rebuilding the country are significant enough and certainly more positive than anything being said by the Conservatives about their alleged "plan".
Sunak has had nothing serious to say or to offer the country other than to try to repair the worst of the damage done by Johnson and Truss.
Or maybe Sunak was backed into a corner with it getting close to enough letters in to the 1922 committee that he had to go now...
I have my suspicions.
That is my guess
That's what I thought. So he felt he would take his chances with an election, them removing another leader would have been political suicide.
Yesterday Sunak must have accepted a job in America and has to have left his present office by early July. He will then go on holiday and recover before starting his new job. Why else announce today?
Rory we do not want exciting we want competent.
I’ve checked the weather forecast and it’s sunny for the next 3 days. Great call all round 😂😂😂😂
You are right Rory, Sunak has had enough of playing at PM, does not need the money just wants to enjoy the spoils of his corrupt tenure in No. 10.
Imagine a labour majority with a lib dem opposition. How much better would it be to see the tories forced out of both 😆
I’m not a labor support myself, but I actually think the labor front bench is pretty strong, especially when you compare it to the Tories over the last 13 years.
Labour (UK spelling).
Dunno about that Streeting is terrible. Their chancellor also sounds like a Blair tribute act.
A surprise election.... he certainly seems to have caught his own ministers by surprise.
Labour have apparently been "pre-prepared" a few days ahead of time.
Rory could of been PM , wow life could of been so much better
Maybe he still can be?
Wasn't keen on his voting record.
@@kayess2634 I am a Labour supporter and love to hear his opinions, he would of been 1000 per cent better than Boris and would love conservatives to let him back in and follow him but it’s not happening , probably suella and maybe worse
@@johnbutcher2587 Apparently the Conservatives are battling to find people to stand as MP’s (I guess we’re not surprised) yet they won’t let somebody like Rory back in, to my mind a quality candidate, and as you say, better than last few PM’s. I hope that Labour will do better, I’m sure they will.
Could have or could've for short
Things can only get better playing during the speech and it raining whilst Sunak making his party political broadcast during an election announcement was hilarious
No matter your stance... our relationship with Europe and the single market will be a factor in the election.
I think the country breathed a collective sigh, get the Tories out, get the crooked ones in prison
In November we would have
1, Worsening NHS crisis.
2, Full impact and cost of Brexit border checks hitting.
3, Elderly (tory best demographic) less likely to venture out in the cold.
And cost of the contaminated blood scandal plus paying off junior doctors- provoking dangerous levels of inflation…….
I’m in Kansas , but English from Norfolk. Recovering from an illness. Now my summer looks like it will be interesting, exciting, inspirational. My attitude to life turned around this morning. Love the podcast. Can’t wait to hear from you both.
...and then november? 😊
How TF did you end up in Kansas of all places? 😂
@@sharonharris9782 I want to say ‘got on the wrong plane’ …or…’husband had a midlife crisis and wanted to moved to US’. Really more the second one. He didn’t like his boss in England so said he wanted to try US. I’d been to grad school in Kansas many, many years earlier and swore I would never set foot in the state again. Life didn’t turn out like I’d expected and I’m still stuck here.
@@teholmes7444my condolences. Of all places to get stuck living here, it had to be Kansas. I just realized that you must have to deal with a lot of MAGAs. If so, I'm sorry.
@@sharonharris9782 yep. And no sea or beach, no mountains, no countryside. Just bloody shopping. It’s rough.
Rory on top form - good to see. Love the podcast, gents.
I'm observing from across The Pond. I saw a PM whose staff didn't erect an awning...on a rainy day...in England. And I saw a PM who's not smart enough to come in out of the rain. Not a good look. 😲
Tories been pissing on we the people 14yrs, Sunak and retirement speech both pissed on, weather got it right for once
They're going now, because there's a few things that won't have fully got going yet - rwanda flights and the impacts of latest brexit related checks, and the wrecked agricultural output this year thanks to the wet spring, for example.
Thus, when those things die on their arse, raise prices, and cause shortages respectively... they will spend the next five years blaming labour for all of them.
I mean I don't blame Tories for the weather, in fairness. But for the absolute state of farming that means not only will we get shortages but a ton more farms will fully go under...? Yeah, the Tories own that for sure.
00:45 Guess you forgot that the Tory Party's entire platform since 2016 has been complete insanity. This is fully on-message for 'em ^_^
How many of the 100 departing MPs were among the 100 MPs who saved Rishi from a party leadership vote?
The Economy is booming, we have additional food banks🕺🏽🕺🏽🕺🏽🕺🏽💩🕺🏽🕺🏽🕺🏽🕺🏽
I'm looking forward to this because we desperately need some adults in
Turning a GE announcement into a Party Political Broadcast was a disgusting and disgraceful!!
Agree, and I thought against the rules when using the ‘Crown’ (on the lectern)?
@@br5380wasn't on there.
Rwanda flights can't happen now, even if they were to be legal. Election period purdah would surely prevent officials and ministers from taking those decisions, especially with how vociferous Labour's opposition to the policy has been.
Rwanda is now finished as a policy.
Great analysis, look forward to more over the next few weeks!
I suspect little Rishi will lose his seat as he seems to be hated by everyone. Tories included. Hoping for less than 30 Tory Seats held.
He has a very safe, deeply rural constituency (I live here), with not even middle sized towns. It would be amazing, but I’m not holding my breath. I
Locally, there’s a lot of noise about Bagge upsetting Truss’s seat. The family are well known for raising charitable funds. It’ll still be like having a Tory though despite having to stand as an independent.
Love Rory's gurning while Alistair talks
😬
Tor-Es and whizz
@SmileyandTheUnderclas😅s
@@SmileyandTheUnderclasshe is a fan of King Charlie
MP for Guernsey over here
Rory, amongst many other things, is a great fidgeter.
I have a lot of confidence in the Labour front bench actually. (I've never voted for either of your parties though - lol). But I think it is necessary to say "Register to vote, Get ID to vote, and on the day, get out and Vote". Say it lots.
Unless youre in Streetings constituency
Things can only get marginally less bad
To be fair, at the moment I'll take marginally less bad over another disasterous 5 years of tory-induced failure and chaos.
Back to square one and beyond with Labour works well for most people
@@DarkFire515 You didnt like the bi-weekly by-elections?
@@michaeladkins6 They were great! Now I want to see that replicated 500 times.
Only thing that makes sense to me is he thinks if he waited then he could've been kicked out and replaced by the 1922 committee.
*1922
fucking hell typo i assume u mean 1922 the conservative party is the oldest in the world but not over 200 years old but nearly
@@PassiveAgressive319 cheers for your amazingly insightful contribution
@@markjones4704 cheers for your amazingly insightful contribution
@@VertexXander 😳
At question time Starmer looked and sounded like the Prime Minister with his opening remarks it was obvious from the faces of Sunak and Dowden that something was up! They looked like rabbits in the headlights!
PMQs*
Thanks for making politics watchable again
Hell no to James Cleverly as a leader
I read your Guardian article today, Rory, and although i'm a Labour supporter, I've always had time for you as you've always come across as a thoughtful, compassionate Conservative and a lot of other readers had commented similarly on the article. I would encourage you to return to politics because I think a lot needs to change in our politics. Although, as you pointed out in your article that so much of British politics now is short term thinking, I think we do need a more level (less extreme) politics and the only way to achieve that, is from within
Next stop: "become a tech brother"
Labour should:
A proper code of conduct for MPs.
Deal with dividends when companies are massively in debt.
Taxation on those earning over a million.
So, was the fact that Scottish schools will be on the summer break a factor in Sunak’s decision. Labour will need to do well in Scotland. Can’t wait to (hopefully) get rid of the worst government in my nearly 70 year lifetime.
Labour can win with no Scottish seat.
The Red Wall has three times as many seats.
Labour is now 6 points clear of the SNP and they have only just changed leader. Holidays or not a snap election is dismal news for them.
Given how many schools usually have to close to be polling stations surely having an election in the school holidays is actually a good thing. If people are going to be away from home they can get a postal/proxy vote.
An utterly dreadul choice at the election for people. What a mess.
@@DylanSargessonYou are right, but lots of people are away on holiday during school holidays and many won’t be bothered to get a postal vote. Voter apathy and inertia is always a problem with elections, whether local or national.
Agree massively on the point around policy:
I want to read details on where the money will go to improve our lives:
More specific issues: for example
How to improve maternity & paternity rights?
How will we push failing schools up in standard ?
How we will access more medical specialists / reduce time for scans?
Prison reform and plans to reduce reoffending stats?
How will a nationalised energy firm reduce costs to the consumer?
How will a nationalised train system reduce delays and costs to the consumer?
How will we increase green energy schemes?
There's lots of these specific questions that we need to get into more detail on. I don't want to hear bylines on stability and attacks on parties. Can we talk about the real ways our lives can be made better.
James Cleverley is an appalling constituency MP. He’s hardly ever in his constituency, doesn’t reply to e mails that his constituents send him and doesn’t attend local civic events. He doesn’t know how to conduct himself in Parliament (the Shithole comment) talked about drugging his wife, he is only interested in furthering his own career. He swaps allegiances at the drop of a feather and has no principles. He would be a disasterous leader of the Conservatives and an even worse opposition leader. Rory needs to look beyond the military service and remember what that man did to get his safe seat, acting as Boris’s hatchet man on the LFCDA.
100%
I haven't seen Alistair so happy in years!
He doesn’t want it. He’s defeated and now he’s off
Watching Sunak announcing the election I kept thinking of something my father would say of people he thought were dumb, "He does not have the sense to get in out of the rain.'
Wish AC would come back into front line politics - he’s a complete legend.
I have listened to Tory MPs reacting on TV to Sunak calling a general election and the sense of entitlement oozing out of their mouths is truly breathtaking ! They still think it’s all going to be fine and they will win on July 4th because even though Britain is broken and nothing works anymore they are so contemptuous of the voting public that they smugly think no one blames them for it
Somebody told Rishi-Washout it's always sunny in California.
“Not Being Tory” works for me
#GetTheToriesOut
Farage is happy commenting from the side lines. He knows his career will be over if he ever actually Leeds anything in parliament.
Thank you for doing the podcast. You both look very tired from a long day but still full of enthusiasm and with bags of interest.
Rishi wants a long summer hols if you ask me
Already summer holidays in NI and Scotland and for uni students who’ll be away from their uni constituencies… way to neutralise/disenfranchise a group of younger voters…
@@Word-in-EjwiseExactly what I’ve been thinking
The announcement together with what Senior Tories have said privately show what an absolute mess this government is in. More of a resignation today than a start of an election drive.
Waiting until winter gets under way would have been a disaster. The problems with the NHS which are high in the consciousness of the electorate will; be worse this winter. July will set temperature records. The electorate will notice that but by then the election will be past.
The Conservatives are able to gasp the patriotic vote much better so with the summer sun less
electricity and gas so lesser bills.
Summer sun making people happier and the Euro starting a week after so the usual patriotic build up
They always measure the temperatures at airports. So jet engines can panic the herd...🤣
@@colinstewart1432 The temperature records give the lie to that.
Just waking up in Australia 🇦🇺 to this bonkers news 🤣🤣🤣 yeah 👍 it’s time to change 😊 things can only get better
Thank goodness!
If this had been called in November, it would be when folks are dreading turning their central heating on.
An election on America's Independence Day.
Tory Independence Day 🤞
Bindependence Day for us, time to take out the trash.
@@ianfraser6161 Count Binface for PM!
@@adam7802 I'm hoping Count Binface stands in Sunak's constituency and lands more votes than him.
@@adam7802Starmer for PM, cabinet post for Lord Binface - Secretary for Refuse
"I never give a prediction, but I'm nearly always right" classic 😅
Perhaps all the compensation payments in the pipeline which rules out any tax cuts he’s decided to cut and run. After all a better life and job await him and if he can do as little as Paula in any new job he’s in for a nice lazy life.
Can I just thank you AC for how Gordon Brown left Downing Street. Dignity, holding hands with his kids. While Nick Clegg was doing the dirty with the Tories.
And then you disappoint. Why would the Lib Dems take Moggs' seat? Labour take that
Sunak’s got himself a well-paid job with much less stress !
Yes being a 'jumped up milk monitor' in the US uni they plough their money into will be a good fit for him!
As a country we have just totally had enough of this party they are out whatever....
Let’s hope Labour include Electoral Reform in the manifesto.
😂
I suspect they will hold that one as a carrot for re-election along with closer ties to Europe. The idea behind the first term is to get into power, establish themselves as trustworthy by not over-promising and then with the public trusting them more add these sort of policies to seal the deal for a second term.
@@samuelmelton8353you guys at Tory HQ getting desperate hey?
@@samuelmelton8353so you think it would good for Labour to be in power but not have the numbers to pass any legislation?
Pretty deranged - not interested in solving crime, education, healthcare, economy for another 5 years?
@@dominicbritt The changes needed across all these areas will take a huge amount of the national buy in across a broad swathe of voters. Cooperation and Collaboration is the way to make this happen, otherwise it's just a One Party state imposing it's will on the people and a recipe for an election loss in 2029. Labour will need at least two terms to make a serious dent in these issues, so they might as well get with the program and learn to share power to get stuff done, for all our sakes. We've already lost a generation, let's not make it two. Labour does not have a monopoly on solutions, and to unravel the mess that they will inherit will need the best minds from across our nation and beyond.
Politicians like to talk about fixing the roof when the sun is shining, but the reality is that the roof was blown off in 2016, (it had already lost a lot of slates after 2008) and despite it raining almost continuously since then, the current UK government has made almost no real effort to replace the roof. Instead they decamped to their second home, leaving the rest of us to endure the 'weather.'
What song should Labour choose for this election, or has this afternoon’s antics chosen for them?
First time I have watched you two. Always listen to podcast. Cannot believe how much Alistair appears to check his phone whilst Rory opines. 😮
Soggy Sunak is supposed to be clever. I met him when he was short selling RBOS stock while Gordon Brown was trying to save it. He's simply a crook.
What about the amount of possible MPs who have submitted letters of no confidence and he's got wind of a leadership contest this summer.
They've had 14 years of disastrous ones at that, why on earth would people vote for more disaster with the Tories.
It's been a long time coming a change is gonna come
“That’s not going to happen, because I am not running” says Rory when AC suggests he could be Tory leader. Even if you were running you’ll have no chance !