The India Pattern Brown Bess: The Manual Exercise c.1804-1815
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Another great video, Rob, and it was my pleasure to assist you with it! As with all your videos, the care you put into the presentation and your attention to detail is on full display. This latest instalment in your "drill" series is solid stuff and will be of great assistance to those wanting to learn more about the subject.
Thanks Ewan! Your help on the project was most welcome and appreciated!
I admire the effort the sarge is putting in not bonking Mackenzie with his polearm.
That would impair Spud Bashing.... he is a good NCO .
Haha!
😂😂
Poor MacKenzie can’t even go marching up and down the square without the sergeant jumping all over him.
Wouldn't you?
@@britishmuzzleloaders Yep, you've got to have spuds.
Not only is this about military history and weaponry but there’s an emphasis on military drill and the manual of arms of the period which is unheard of unless you’re a member of a specific history club or reenactor. This is absolute gold as I’m a history geek and I’ve followed Rob for a long time just because of his content. The guy is a wealth of knowledge on something you hardly ever hear anything about. As always, excellent work sir 👌
Just another facet of the use of the military arms, as is a feature of the Channel.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Yes. You’re an absolute blast to watch (pun intended). Thank you for what you do Rob.
Poor McKenzie...Never escapes the spuds. XD
Also another fantastic video.
😂😂 yup he never fails to get them 🤣🤣
He always has spudtacular time.
Next time he can also cut them into chips.
No he doesn't!
I think we can all agree that Rob is the best thing to come out of Canada since Rush.
Haha!
Mackenzie: are those potatoes?!
Sergeant: 😈
Grrrrrrr.....
I was a War of 1812 reenactor for years and this brings back lot of memories. When I was first learning the drill, I was surprised how much of the weapons drill was nearly identical to the Lee-Enfield drill that I had learned as a cadet.
I suppose that it's in the eye of the beholder... there is not much similarity in the technical aspects of this and 20th century drill....
First one i bought, love that musket
Thanks for tye vid Rob
Cheers!
My ability to maintain focus may not suffice for this one, but it seems to be yet another very good video from you, so thank you for your continued efforts!
Cheers!
Love this
Cheers!
Your neighbors must love you. I would.
For sure!
This is fantastic, reminds me of our monthly drill sessions prior to Waterloo in 2015...! Nice to see myself on the field here too ;)
Was there too. Only watching....
I'm genuinely shocked how similar a lot of these drill movements are compared to the C7 ceremonial drill I'm used to in modern times. Obviously there are differences, but not as many as I expected!
While arms drill hasn’t “always been that way”, it has been an evolution…. Lots of drill videos in the Drill Playlist…
You know he'll never get shot, what with all the potato peeling he has to do.
Haha!
🥔🥔🥔🥔Potatoes🥔🥔🥔..... yes, he is back!
Great “Green Screens” by the way..🤪
Indeed!
Great video, but I am not sure that I agree with your comments on the use of the general use of the shortened version of "Attention" in the modern (British Army) the use of "Shun" (from my memories of the late 70s) was restricted to drill practise or informal parades,, When taking a recruit squad and doing the "At ease / Shun / At Ease/ Shun....." treatment then the command was "SHUN" so that the whole sequence could be compressed into a sequence that would result in confusion in the squad, but in any formal parade the full word was used with the "atten" part being drawn out (and serving as the warning order, that they were going to attention not stand easy) then the "Shun" part barked out to trigger the execution of the order.
Modern parades from The Trooping, to a run-of-the-mill pass out feature the abbreviated form...
@@britishmuzzleloaders Really on formal parades they dont, the first part of any drill order is the warning part, that defines what is about to be done, the second part is the execute section - on formal parades both are given
Good morning from Syracuse NY USA brother and thank you for sharing this video which I just got my friend
You are most welcome!
I was waiting for the wife to tell out to you on this video which is very funny brother 😂 and outstanding videos and history lessons
@@earlshaner4441 Cheers!
Cheers with the rum ratios
Ahhh good old Fort George at the start. I was based there for, four years
I though it might be Fort George, I visited it last year when up in Inverness.
It's an impressive place!
@@britishmuzzleloaders that it certainly is mate
Very cool! Interesting how I can see some of these movements still used in our D&C movements today. I just finished re-watching the Sharpe series too haha, cheers bud, great work!
I was in Civil Air Patrol Color Gaurd. It's interesting on how alot of things have been simplified.
@@zachv1942 Yeah definitely
The Sharpe TV series is just awful.
@@JohnyG29 it should die in a fire.
@@JohnyG29 Well, what's a better show about the period of the Napoleonic War?
Obviously it's a Drama (and based off of a book series written just after the time period), but some of the aspects of the Military/ Soldier functions are fairly accurate to what understanding the advisors of the show had at the time.
I wonder if you have an bloopers on camera when a random stumbles on you filming in your “outfits” (as Othais refers to them)? That would be a funny sight.
There have been a couple!.... mostly just endless retakes as I forget lines, and can't speak properly...
Talking about going double quick. Reminds me of something I saw on sharpe. (I know not the best historical reference.) However, I couldn't help but notice that they had some sort of March where they would march for about five steps and then they would run for about five steps. Was this ever actually a thing?
Not actually a thing. Try it... and you will see just how 'realistic' it is....
Hahaha like I said before.... best intro's ever! Complete with military haircut.
Cheers!
This will certainly remain as the standard accessible reference for this period's drill regimen. Typically well demonstrated, and documented. Well done, once again, sir. Thank you.
That is very kind! Cheers!
@BrandonF. You thought you where pedantic.
@Britishmuzzleloaders this presentation is amazing
Glad you enjoyed it!
The slow cadence for the movements is not something I had appreciated. Very well done.
Cheers! Nice to hear form you!
👍👍👍 Luckily the ceiling of the room is just high enough to do the drill (without bayonet). This year we could not do winter camp so the company (79th light) did not have proper training before the season started. This will be of great help .
Glad to hear!
@@britishmuzzleloaders
We already did the night attack on Badajoz under Picton this year (last weekend). Damn, those walls are high.
Excellent, now get on the potato’s Makenzie !
Indeed!
From one video drill interpreter to another - well done!!!
Cheers. Lot's of drill on the Channel!
Isn't that skirt scottish correct me if im wrong.
Lot's of info on Kit in the "Kit" playlist.
Hazzar hazzar hazzar
You dapper top bloke
I have a question for you before the period you have set these drills in
Would this drill or is there a manual of arm for 17 40 / 50 period I recognise all the movements
Keep up with the excellent informative quality content
Bestest from Scotland 👍👍
While the movements can be similar, the Manual Exercise of the mid 1700s is quite different as are the words of command.
I was watching 'The Pride and the passion'' based on the Peninsula war and watched as two sentries were jumped. I have always thought sentry duty especially at night in hostile circumstances one of the most difficult things for soldiers to do. In the army manuals were there procedures and methods to be used to help soldiers on sentry duty?
Not so much to the individual, but the text do describe sentry and piquet duty as an evolution or field operation.
11:14
I wonder if Rob has been asked by his neighbor about the bayonet poking above the fencline on occasion
They just roll their eyes....
If you had asked McKenzie about his Brown Bess he would think you meant that girl in the alehouse not his firelock.
How do you think it got it's name.....
@@britishmuzzleloaders Exactly! He spent more time caressing his fire lock than the ale house wrench.
I love your videos, always so interesting and educational, that I end up going to sleep an hour late
Cheers!
Another Wonderful Video Rob. Great Detail.
Cheers!
I might have to buy/make me one of those plummets, be most useful in training of men of step.
So simple, and so effective...
Once again making an otherwise somewhat dry subject informative and entertaining in your usual manner Rob 👍🍻.
What do your neighbours think about your noisy gardening with that very thin trowel on the end of a long pole though? 🤔😂
Very kind of you to say so. Thank you. It's great for planting bulbs....
Drill is a pill to be taken twice a day! I hated drill with a passion.
It wasn't just 'drill' then,... it was tactics and manoeuvre...
@@britishmuzzleloaders Oh yes. Vital that the men could react, almost without thinking, to commands while in battle. I was RAF before transferring to the Army. I was always a girly clerk. The RAF take NBC very seriously because you can't move an airbase. When we were mortared, I was the only person to turn up at my vehicle wearing a respirator having done my actions on, drill properly. The infantry hearing my voice in the pitch black asking to be let into the back of my Warrior, asked. "Are you wearing a respirator"? Me. "Yeah". Someone in the dark. "Shit".
17:27 I swear, if I didn't know beforehand that this was greenscreen, I would have assumed you had a twin brother.
Haha!
It's really wonderful.Thank you very much for knowing a lot.😊😊😊
Cheers!
I feel as though in going from advance arms to the shoulder the right hand's grip should be adjusted before moving the weapon across the body. Ok so basically the 1823 method...
That's not what's written in the text, as explained in the video....
I have the Gibbs African Hunter in cal 72, rifled barrel. At 120 m I am in the C50 target. The brown Bess is missing in my large caliber collection.
👍
A video like this explains so much more than a picture! Another great presentation. Thank you.
Glad you liked it! Cheers!
Classic Mackenzie.
Indeed!
Good evening Rob, Enjoying the videos.
Would you ever do the great war sniper training? No need for a scoped SMLE, just an idea.
Maybe in the future, yes.
How much do I have to give you on Patreon for Pvt. McKenzie to go full Gomer Pyle "Point Seven Five, Full Lead Round Ball"
Hahaha!
When at charge bayonet what is the position of the rear rank?
I very much enjoy your video's, very informative!!!
The second rank was to advance and continue at the Port.
Never mind about that brown Bess malarkey. How about getting your back garden sorted, it’s a right old state.
Right on it.
So I have a question.
I recently got a No.1 MKIII SMLE and this one does not have the star yet it has all the updates the MKIII star received. It is also all matching
Interesting!
I noticed the boots hard to tell under the gaiters but they look a bit like ammo boots. I thought the British army wore square toed shoes in this period. Tried a search but couldn't find anything.
They are simple oxfords.... As explained in Part 2 of the Kit Series, what you see on the Channel, kit-wise, is not necessarily 100% correct... Historical shooting exists on a bit of a scale....
10:45 the Present Arms is exactly the same timing and manual I learned with my Mk4 Lee Enfield as a Cadet in the 1970s
Except that it would typically be delivered form the slope with the Lee-Enfield.... 😀
I appreciate the effort you put into your content. Always informative!
Appreciate that! Thanks.
Two shillings in the early 1800's must have been very expensive, just who was it aimed at?
I regards to what?
Is Pte McKenzie the McAuslan of the 21st C?😂😂😂
Yes.
I have been waiting for more ness stuff thank you 👏
Most welcome!
Will MacKenzie ever learn? 🥔🥔🥔
No....
Nurse I'm seeing double again 😮
Haha!
British muzzle loaders, would their be a command that would allow the men to use their riffle slings ?
No... slings is for decoration.....
Give Mckenzie a few extra lbs of potatoes
Haha!
Just found your channel looks great! btw do you know of any good videos on stripping down a brown bess, I own one but am too scared to attept it without a good guide? Cheers
Thank you! Stripping a Brown Bess is very similar to stripping a P53, with the exception of the barrel bands... The Bess's barrel pins come out right-to-left and after that, it's pretty much the same for cleaning...
@@britishmuzzleloaders Thanks mate!!
Lance Corporal Jones would be proud.
Sure thing!
Only just saw the notification, kicking myself for being nine days late.
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@britishmuzzleloaders Always.
The anachronisms of present day military drill. The “Pas Cadence” of the Foreign Legion is a hangover from the 18th century.
I suppose so, yes.
Another excellent video. I've always been impressed with your weapon handling skills and dress and bearing.
Cheers!
I grew up on the country estate of the Dundas family in north Yorkshire. Aske near Richmond. This was fantastic.
Nice! Cheers.
Great work Rob! I was always wondering when the rifles were loaded? I assume that during drill times the rifles would have been unloaded, what about during marching, on guard etc?
It all depends on the circumstances.... sentry duty in operational areas?... Yes. moving from A to B in safe areas?.... No.
OMG the scenery is terrible, how do you live with yourself?
It's just tragic I know...
If you want to swap for the heat, dust and flies in Australia, Iam up for that. @@britishmuzzleloaders
At 4:41 are they Royal Marines or East India company men
It's the 83rd Foot the at the Cape in 1806. Round hats were common in foreign stations at that time...
@@britishmuzzleloaders ah. Interesting. Absolutely top notch video as always. Love it
Another great video. Very well spoken and always concise and informative 👍
Thank you!
So Kino
So Based
Thanks.
*_GOD SAVE THE KING!_*
Cheers!
Rob too what use was the sling made? None of the paintings I can remember ever show it being used, ether to carry or as a shooting aid.
Decoration.... climbing ladders, carrying large items... it would appear that the sling wasn't really used for much...
All that mustache this early in the morning... that's how you know it's gonna be a good day!
Haha!
Great video!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks again, learn so much about my history from your videos
Glad to hear it! Cheers!
tee hee he said butt
Yeah.
Do you need larger lapels to help keep your priming powder dry?Culloden
Sure thing.
1st rate video with my 2 big toes 4 very big thumbs up loved it
Thank you kindly!
Are the small of the stock & the wrist the same or slightly different positions?
They are the same.
Brilliantly executed. Well done.
Very kind!
My Irish ancestors were in the British army. Ta mate
The East India Company designed a simpler cheaper made muskets for its own army in India. The British Army being in need of more muskets in a hurry both seized a quantity of EIC muskets before they left England and then copied the design as the new pattern of official British Army musket. Hence India pattern.
Cheers!
Great stuff BM.
Glad you enjoyed it
Why was this called the India pattern?
That is explained in the Bess Intro video if you are interested.
Arms Drill wearing equipment is a nuisance....a real skill.
Unfix Bayonets is never a smart looking drill move.
It sure is one of the most complicated.
That's the whole intent of the drill... it wasn't a ceremonial thing then... used on the battlefield and hence the wearing of all the kit....
You need to work on the sinister laugh!
Sure.
Mackenzie on potatoes😅
Yes!