Cernium Familiars will hurt my Progression
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
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0:00 Opening
1:34 Limina
4:22 My Familiars
5:26 Guaranteed Gains
11:13 First Step
13:04 Obligation
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I knew what the comments would be while I was watching your video.
Personally I agree, even though I myself is someone who will greatly benefit from Grandis familiars being released. I feel like people watching your video are purposefully ignoring the "continuing to consider adding more familiars to the other Grandis regions". You even mention yourself that this is why you made your video and people just fucking ignore it. It is clear from that statement that they have considered it and decided not to implement it, at least not now.
Hopefully they do decide to implement familiars from later areas in the future, as it should be. It is absolutely ridiculous that a system such as familiars is not implemented in each and every possible zone/area but why implement it when they know most people (including myself honestly, though it wont be by a lot. I'm only 274 atm) is happy to personally nerf their own EXP and meso rates a bit to farm it out in Cernium
This is maybe the first time he'll realize this as a TH-camr. It doesn't matter what your actual reasoning is. People just read the title and will start commenting lol.
Just let them waste time farming for a boss fam that'll never come. If they hit, great. If they don't, it's their own time they're wasting anyway.
Funny when most people who think like that are Jr. Boogies abusers.. :) In any way, there had to be someone complaining about that, and if they didn't mention grandis fams last time, or within the next 6 months, the same people would complain and ask for grandis fams up to carcion in one update.. For ONE time that they're not nerfing much (except fd buff but well..), there're people complaining.. It's good for people who start the game or are kinda new, or just don't have any good familiars yet, it's their time they're spending/wasting, so why would it matters anyway?
The release of Cern and Burnium familiars is because they are already in the game code, they have to make the others from scratch, that may be why they are releasing them like that, I would rather have half fams than no fams for whatever long it takes them to release the other region's familiars.
@@andresfidelio6984 I see, that's good to know and makes sense. It's certainly a good first step. Hopefully they decide to make them for further areas or give us a familiar meso sink in red cards if they don't want to allocate more resources to coding new familiars every time a new area is released for as long as the game is still in service.
You were able to pre-farm fams before 6th job, lucked out, and a lot of people now do not have that luxury of doing so since 6th job is guarenteed gains and would be stupid to stay and farm fams in Limina. I do not think Cernium fams will halt your progression whatsoever. I do agree that only releasing them for Cernium areas is stupid and will bottleneck the community but it is a step in the right direction. Now, instead of being told to forget about fams after you hyper burn your fresh character to 260 you will have the ability to continue to farm fams in Cernium AND make progress with 6th job alongside each other until about 275 (the highest level mob in Burnium is 264 so realistically you can stay until 275 before losing meso gains). Even then people will sacrifice the mesos for familiars. I think the play is to grind it out and get what you get until 275, push 285 to unlock all symbols and dailies and then go back and farm more fams. Currently 290 is not NEEDED for anything in the game (even for XLotus) so you have the luxury of farming fams. I dont think Boss DMG fams bottlenecks you from doing any content in this game and is only relevant if you want to compare yourself to your peers or be the best of the best. I do hope Nexon rolls out Grandis fams regularly and not make us wait a super long time before the next batch.
L take lol. Spent hours making this video and still failed to hear how bad you sound.
Sorry but im more concerned for the new players and those with 0 boss fams than your own personal progression min maxing, you have 80% lets not act like u came out with nothing. going back to cernium is a choice not an "obligation"
Trueeee
True x3 im new player too
Classic "I had a hard time, so you should too".
Not even remotely close. I am really happy for players who previously had no option to farm familiars at all (everyone hitting 260 after 6th job release). Now they have at least something. But let's not pretend, they will not have a hard time now, even though familiars are in Grandis. It's just less painful than before. But it's not good enough, not even for them.
Agreed, even in his reply, he still comes across as being not happy because newer or other players will have an easier time than he did. And why the rush? Cernium fams is a right step in the right direction, they never announced that familiars will ONLY ever be in Cerns.
@@SogaMaple In that case, it's sad that they reduced exp curve so newer players are going to lvl up faster.. 🤦 Couldn't be more selfish.
@@magebloodheavybelt When you write "because newer or other players will have an easier time than he did" you are mistaken. I don't think it's gonna be easier than what I went through. It will still horrendous to grind out familiars for new players. There isn't really a meaningful difference in me grinding out familiars in Limina pre 6th job and people now that are going to be grinding out familiars in Cernium post 6th job.
The only thing that was addressed is that people at least now have the option to grind for familiars at all, which is fantastic for them. They just reestablished the previous status quo that I already was not ok with. What I am advocating for is a better solution than what we have gotten here. We just returned to how it was pre 6th job and that wasn't good enough for anybody either.
@@Supermath4 With the changes to the Reboot mob/experience system last year, we do level up significantly slower than last year post 260. just fyi.
If you’re unhappy about familiars being added to Cernium, you can literally just ignore them and move on with your life. I don’t understand how this is a problem.
He probably thought this update was made for him especially.. :/
I’m sorry that nexon is putting a gun to your head forcing you to farm in Cernium:(
Just wait til they release in the later areas. Why the rush?
Hindsight is 20/20. You got familiars setup pre-6th job. You are ahead of the curve in that regard while people are going to go back or wait for later area familiar and right now your HEXA outweighs the gains of min maxing an extra 40% boss.
Sounds like a you problem to me, atleast the rest of the player base can benefit right ? ….
I understand your perspective, but you have to remember!,
Up until now, we were completely ignored about many of the core issues in GMS.
I think that the hype people have around fams and other things, is not related to the actual fams in cernium. It's the idea and hope that we're going to get GMS to listen to the player base and the potential of it.
You have to remember that implementing things takes times and especially when things originates from other regions where you don't have control over. big companies are notorious about being slow as well. but the fact that we got some indication that they are willing to listen to us, even though they haven't implemented everything, is a STEP in the RIGHT direction!
I hope it makes sense.
This is like telling your boss, that you hate getting a raise, because now you are gonna spend more money.
Dude the alternative to this was going back to arcane river again for new fams
the reason why no one brings up your opinion is because this is just an omega bad take. so because the company is doing something that is overall good for the game but also something that YOU don't want to do/participate in, its a bad update?
I dont get it lol. It just seems like you are trying to make like 9 different points in this video. "Oh im behind other people that went to farm in grandis while i farmed limina for familiars". "Oh i can farm familiars in cernium now at a meso deficit". You are literally upset Nexon is giving us another avenue to farm familiars...
So... do you want them to release familiars in grandis as a whole in one big update? Didn't they already say that they will 'consider' releasing fams in the later parts of Grandis? So what I'm hearing is: "they need to release fams in the map I'm training at or it will scuff my progression." I agree that they need to just release fams in Grandis as a whole that would be freaking awesome, but would it be good for the balance of the game?
Bro probably should’ve spent the 20 some hours editing this video to grind out 10 waps.
-20hr gains
I think adding more options (even if you think it is a worse option) isn't necessarily bad, since people can decide themselves whether to push for better xp/meso/frag rates or work with familiars based on what they're looking for. I'd argue for the people who already have familiars/prefer to grind in the higher level maps, this is probably good since there will be less competition and therefore more burning for higher level areas.
IMO the only real concern for populated servers (namely, NA reboot1/kronos) is that 260-264 people might struggle to find a map, which would REALLY suck for them, especially new players. Hopefully it doesn't turn out like that.
If I see you grind fam cernium/b.cern, i'll defame you
I get where you are coming from. I would have liked to see them released in all areas at the same time since it took so long. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for them to include the other areas. I don't want to see it become a "they are coming sometime soon, just in the works" kind of thing. I am mostly happy to see that they are making at least some sort of effort with this change, even if it would hurt me quite a bit to go participate in it currently.
Really terrible take. You come off like a spoiled child who is upset that changes are coming to benefit everyone, including you. These changes do not hurt your progression, YOU hurt your progression by farming fams instead of grinding in grandis. You made that choice when you did your progression and now you’re upset that others don’t have to make that choice? Lmfao. Cernium familiars do not hurt your progression, you did.
That has got to be the shittiest take I've ever heard. "I struggled so other people should struggle too" - "My progression HURR DURR"
What do you mean you are missing 15 fd? You already have plenty of boss familiars to clear any content in the game. Familiars are just another source of damage and you have plenty of them in gms, and you would have gotten the same results farming for frags. The amount of damage we have over KMS is ridiculous. It's like your only complaint is basically that you can't compete with the best of the best like Shapaz but he's also farmed a ton more frags than you so that point is moot. At no point in this game are you held back from not having triple 40 boss familiars. Just a ridiculous video lmao
remove this video
nexon really should have thought about YOUR progression more when doing this patch, the game does revolve around YOU
I don't want you to think of me like this. Like I said in the opening, it's a great patch. Many poeple will benefit heavily from this. But that wasn't the point of this video.
You are the only person talking bad about this. Your personal progression isn't as important than a change that makes sense. Sorry. This video is so short sighted
Glad Nexon didn't first think about you then. There had to be people complaining about that 🙄🤦. You already have a really good familiar setup, so why would cernium fams slow up at all, just don't farm them, simple as it is.
At 275, think my plan is to still go for the guaranteed gains and whatever familiars I get will be from my hyper burns that do dailies in the area.
You have every right to you opinion and I appreciate you for expressing it in a way that is civilized and concise. But for the sake of a civilized debate I would like to offer my rebuttal to the points you made in the video.
You mentioned that in order to progress in the game, you took 6-7 months to grind familiars in Limina. You mentioned how this slowed your progression considerably and now you are essentially 6ish levels behind those who chose not to do so.
While this point is valid, it has little to do with the addition of familiars now. The players who chose not to grind familiars will now have to go back to sub-optimal exp and meso to grind familiars just like you had to. You would still have the familiars you have, and so it is not a time loss for you and overall this gives you the opportunity to improve them at the same (if not better since, as you said, the players you compare yourself to are higher level than you and so get less meso and exp than you) rate as other players.
As for the opportunity cost, this is natural. Games evolve, old methods become obsolete and new methods make progressing faster. It is foolish to think that the time you spent grinding is wasted just because a better grinding method was introduces, this is the nature of progression.
Lastly you talk about the single phrase which may or may not indicate Nexon's intention to introduce more familiars to later areas of Grandis. While I choose to remain optimistic about this statement I can see why you would assume that this only signifies a way to pacify the angry players.
But even so, the mere introduction of this line is a net good for all players of the game. Familiars are a necessity in high level bossing and this just became the best way to obtain it.
Overall, I think this video acts more like a way for you to vent your frustration over time you spent grinding than an actual formed opinion on the concept of Grandis familiars. The title also doesn't really convey what you meant in this video since this isn't a direct detriment to your progression but lost opportunity cost mixed with frustration over the fact that this update is less good for you specifically.
Hi Natan, thnaks for taking the time to leave your thoughts here. I could have taken the time in the video to be more clear about my message but my main goal was to have this video as short as possible. I will address your points here though!
For me it was really the conjunction of the 3 points I brought up in the video, that lead me to title the video "it will hurt my progression" because at the time I felt a strong obligation to go down to Cernium, which would hurt my progression comparatively to staying in my area, if I don't hit anything. The obligation was really the weakest point of my argument and many good comments here also helped me overcome that.
To your first point. The introduction of familiars to Cernium only reintroduces the already flawed status quo that we had before the 6th job update. This is not good enough for the players.
If the system would not be so random, I would agree with you on the 2nd point. Here I am not sure, where you are coming from; if you famred fams in the past; which level you are etc. Maybe it would help me understand you, but how the system currently works; the familiars either need to drop everywhere or red cards need to be introduced. It's not fair otherwise, people will feel discouraged and just leave the game.
Again to address your last point, I need to know where you are coming from. I have read through all the community notes and they are all just straight up gas lighting. Not taking that into account when reading this sentence, does not make sense to me, when there were at least 50 other ways to say that they are going to introduce more familiar cards. This phrasing is the closest one to straight up saying "We don't intent to bring more familiars to the other Grandis regions".
On your closing thoughts. Of course this video was for me to vent but I have received many comments and multiple people have gone out of their way to reach out to me on Discord to say thanks because they felt so underrepresented. If you think about progression as constantly moving into a direction; me going down to farm familiars would slow down this movement; hence hurt the porgression.
Hope you understand. Otherwise we can also discuss in Discord since you are clearly interested in having a discussion and I too love talking about this game!
Man you have 80% boss damage fams! You do not need boss fams anymore! I never seen bossing fam ! Go for exp and leave fams game
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the points I got from your video is that:
- The familiar system sucks and has way too much rng
- Because there's so much rng you'll likely out-level the regions with familiars before hitting, and continuing to farm for them griefs your progression for an indefinite amount of time (because of the rng again)
- You personally decided to farm familiars and experienced that after comparing with your peers you griefed your progression from that decision
- The wording of the change makes it seem that additional familiars in Grandis might not even be added, which would mean that other players would have to face the same decision that you did (albeit less griefed because you still get frags and way better exp than liminia but still lose out on some mesos, exp, and frags)
- The situation has a whole hasn't really changed because additional Grandis Region familiars aren't guaranteed, the system itself hasn't changed and still requires a lot of rng, and you still have to make the decision of griefing a portion of your progression for an indefinite amount of time for only a chance of hitting. Them adding familiars to Cernium signifies that the base familiar system in reboot/heroic with heavy rng will probably not change.
I think your video did a poor job of conveying the message you wanted to convey. Statements like "Cernium Familiars will hurt my progression" makes it sound like despite griefing your progression by farming familiars before you plan on making the same decision again when you don't even have to. I think it would have been better to just say "Cernium Familiars will hurt YOUR progression" then outline your experience of how you griefed yourself, how the situation really hasn't changed and how new players will still go through the same experience (albeit less bad) despite the addition of Cernium Familiars.
I'm also still confused exactly on what stance you have overall regarding the familiar system. Is adding familiars to all Grandis regions enough? Do you want red cards in reboot/heroic? Or do you think the whole thing should be scrapped?
Well I don't want to speak for other people which why I would refrain from your tile suggestion. The long title here would rather be "Adding familiars to Grandis will hurt my Progression, if I were to go down to that region and farm them instead of grinding within my level range, unless I hit the jackpot" but I think you understood the message of this video quite well.
In regards to your follow-up comment, I actually like reading this since I did not want to put my words into anybodys mouth. I simply shared my experience and the viewer can decide what they want to take away from it and see what action they might find appropriate.
Since you asked, for me personally I see 3 options:
1. Add red cards for mesos.
2. Add Familiars to all Grandis regions; remove common familiars and let them drop as rare and epic with the option of ranking them up to legendary.
3. Remove the system.
What are you talking about? 95% of players never seen a single boss damage fam, you have 3
95% of players also didn't spent 6h a day for 7 months in Limina. What's your point?
@@SogaMapleshould have spent that time touching grass instead lmao what a dweeb
I dont have any boss familiar 😢
This is a me me me video, here is one of the biggest problem with the maple players they think selfishly looking at things through there own eyes and not others, see a game company has the think what can help everyone one not just 1 group, think about new and returning players this helps them triple dip in there progression even players like me who get to play a few hours a day more on days off if i have time, these are great step to help build a good game for EVERYONE! Not just you ! Sorry but your not the only MC in this Story 🖐🎤
This video makes no sense
you complain so much.
Ive been a fan of your videos for a long time. this video is a fat L. What are you actually upset about? You legit had the luxury of farming fams before we could get frags. You dont even need fams anymore unless youre min maxing them? Its not even something that should even bother you at this point lol. What if i sad fuck this game is so shit because NW is the most OP CLASS AND THEY NEED A BIG NERF. that doesnt benefit me at all so why would i wish that? it doesnt make sense. youre legit saying this is a bad change but again it doesnt affect you at all. please explain why? just because it doesnt benefit you doesnt mean its a bad change lol. people now without fams are lucky theyll have a option to choose. you either go to cernium now or you wait for the future updates thats it...
Thanks for being around for a long time by now! I think we are both on the same side of the discussion here but it might take more time for the community to realise that once the update is in place. Them adding Familiars to Cernium is of course a great change for the majority of players, when you compare it to the situation as it is right now. But what this really only does, is reestablish the already flawed status quo that we had before the 6th job release. Think about this for a minute or two and you will realize, that this change still means that, if you have the same luck as me, you will spend many months of your time in Cernium, when you could have moved up to better areas; gaining more experience, fragments and mesos, than if they would have just added familiars to all areas of the game or introduced red cards. This is not acceptable for me, not only because it barely affects me (since my familiars are already kind of "done") but also because it affects everyone else, who was less fortunate. Maybe I should have put more emphasis on framing my broader opinion beforehand and tell everybody the conclusion in the outro. My expectation, especially to you as a long time viewer of the channel, is to come to this or a similar conclusion on your own and build your own opinion, since I want to refrain from putting my words into peoples mouths. That's why I only talked about my perspective. If you think, you will be satisfied with this change; that's fine. I would strive for more than that though. I talked about my perspective because I don't want to speak for other people.
"What if i sad fuck this game is so shit because NW is the most OP CLASS AND THEY NEED A BIG NERF. that doesnt benefit me at all so why would i wish that?" This does not reflect my opinion or the video; I want equal opportunity for everybody. And I want more than just familiars in Cernium.
"youre legit saying this is a bad change but again it doesnt affect you at all. please explain why?"
Because I want you to have it better than me. You spending the next several months in Cernium is not good enough. I will personally not be affected, if I don't go down to these areas to farm familiars. But if I go down and get nothing, it will hurt my progression. I should not have to make this decision, when others had the luxury to farm an afternoon for a better outcome.
The obligation part of this video, was the weakest part of the argument, but it's the conjunction of these points, which make this update so bad, when they could have introduced a much better solution than what they have done here.
I want a familiar rework before grandis familiars
Dude what are you talking about !!!! Lol
I’ve played on reboot for 5 years now… or as you would call it 260 weeks f3. I only have one 20% boss and 2 15 ied%. Haven’t gotten large drop just a fkn hybrid 60%.
YOU have 80% boss, I have 20%…
YOU have 9 pitch drops (idc if u boomed some) I have only seen 3 (2 fkn books and a zerk).
By your own logic your progression is bs compared to mine since I’ve spent way more time playing this game than you.
You just have a narcissistic point of view, at the end of the day it’s an RNG thing and you’ve definitely been blessed on that regard… As bad as my rng sounds someone reading this probably has way worse luck than I do.
The game doesn’t revolve around you and it doesn’t revolve around me either, just be happy we got grandis fams dude
If you were actively playing for 5 years, you would have abused the broken familiar system when they just had reintroduced the system. So of course, somebody who doesn't put in the same amount of time, is more likely to have a worse loadout than me.
With that being said, I just want equal opportunity for everybody. And just adding familiars to Cernium is not good enough. You can read my other comments where I go into detail how this update only reintroduces the already broken status quo from before the 6th job update. Please be more open minded.
nexon should make red cards for reboot to fix this issue for like 10-20m per card
I think with the assumption that fams will eventually get added to further areas, this is a good change. Obviously not the *best* change, but a good one
Edit- Just to be clear, I totally get where you're coming from, but I think you're being disingenuous in not at least admitting that it's a step in the right direction. Sure it's the bare minimum, but at least it's the bare minimum.
I believe it, when I see it!
@@SogaMaple that's fair lol
yea there's no reason to not farm in cern after this change goes through. Nodes+Meso+Fam+Fraggies make it far worth more then the exp rates
Does it suck fams are only in cernium atm? Of course, literally no one is saying otherwise. However, it baffles me when people try to argue against more "content" and options in games.
The people you say have hybrid fams you could probably count on 1 hand. Why are you comparing yourself to them? Most people settled for 60-90% boss fams and going for any higher is straight up not worth the time investment if youre not 290 or max hexa
I think you're closer to finishing sixth job / leveling and then coming back to farm familiar. You're in a very fortunate position, I don't know why you're complaining, they gave us something and that is already better.
Tried to be open minded watching this video. Yikes, my dude.
You gotta know pottable badge hurts a lot more for new players... giving disadvantage to newer player is worse
Yo Soga I think you might be a little bit overreact to this change. I think what Nexon trying to do is use early 260 area to
1. Test something out about the familiar
2. Speed up the progress on lower level characters and bring everyone on similar dmg level.
This change benifit most of the players like Daily Story players. Let Inkwell cook for awhile and lets see. I would say dont go back grind familiars keep progress your main
Most L video you've released
I don't understand your point. Currently you have only one option: grind at the map you are currently grinding at.
After the next patch you will have two options: grind at the map you are currently grinding at, or to grind at Cernium. Nexon giving you another option you can choose from is somehow "malicious"??
I think everyone agrees with you that they should add fams to all grandis maps. Where people don't understand your point is somehow adding fams to Cerium is a bad thing.
You learned your lesson when you grinded Limina and fell behind your peers. Maybe its time to learn from your mistake by sticking to what you're doing, and let people who needed this change to enjoy it.
Tried to watch this with an open mind and I do really like your content generally. All I can say is comparison is the thief of joy. Yes people abused fams when they came out and now have giga fams that are almost impossible to match unless you are very, very, very lucky. Yes you "wasted" time now grinding in lim for fams which people won't have to do anymore. Yes 80% is suboptimal and having another 40% or a hybrid would be a bigger gain than most upgrades.
I don't think people are gaslighting the negatives with the change though. Two weeks ago grandis fams was a huge cope. Now it's coming next month. They only released cern fams because they are already programmed into the game. We don't know when/how they'll add more grandis areas but ALSO we don't know if we'll get fam reworks along with that. What if they make it so rolling 40% fams are free? What if red cards are added? Then will people who spend the next 6 months grinding in cern gonna be pissed? Probably. You're upset with the language they used but who fucking knows what KMS updates are gonna bring? A company is always going to use language that allows them to change course later on if things change. Even if they never add more fams this is still significantly better...
There are so many upgrade paths in this game and adding another, even if it becomes less efficient in the future, is just the standard for how this game gets patched. I remember when Reboot was new people spent hundreds of hours farming for blackgate rings, ccing through 4 maps for a random boss spawn that dropped a ring that is completely useless now. This just naturally happens and while it kind of sucks to feel like the time was wasted it just is what it is.
Comparison is the thief of joy p.s. i still reallylove your content
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These words come from nw afk farming player xD maybe they should just erase familiar system? How would you feel then hahahaha
I would welcome that.
@@SogaMaple and have another topic to make video to whine about xD
@@bb90flow I am not really sure what you read into my response. But what I meant is that I would be happy, if they would remove this system. I would not whine about it. Either adjust the system to be fair for everybody or remove it so everybody is on an even playing field. This middle-of-the-road approach is what I resent.
Well if I’m not mistaken they said few updates ago that they focus on getting new players in and these changes reflect it in 100%
So… you made a bad choice when progressing your account, and now want everyone else to suffer. Got it 😂
why are you guys so mean to soga💀
good content lol
What's annoying to me is "why don't they just release it in all Grandis areas?"
Why are they scared of later game players improving their familiars?
baby steps my lad
My speculation is that they did it last minute to appease the players. I doubt they have the familiar cards coded into the game. We knew they had the cards for cernium already because of other servers but i dont think we have ever heard of familiar cards in other grandis regions
Guess higher lvl familiars incoming. But to be fair i agree with you, should atleast be added to the highest region aswell so you dont have to halt ur progress and can just continu even if it is a bit without familiar cards
80% boss and no large drop so youre complaining that you HAVE to farm fams when no one is making you other than you? Huhhh
Lemme be in your shoes and be happy i hit on fams pls 🙄
lol Complaining about your progression. Who cares bro so many people didn't get as lucky as you with your fams. Overall net positive for most of the community. Not to mention you farmed fams while bite farming. What about all the people who had to actually actively farm. Complaining about this minor inconvenience to you is such a selfish thing to do.
i farmed fams so others should have to as well is such a complete garbage take lmfao
i fully agree with you even tho i think you shouldnt feel forced to grind in cernium rn and rather wait until the eventual time where they MIGHT release other regions. it definitely is a step into the right direction but their language is definitely sus, especially considering their history. its still good for new players (or everyone that didnt get to grind any familiars pre 6th job), so i wouldnt fully discredit it, but yea overall there is no reason for them not to add it in later areas as well.
I feel a lot less forced since I got this off my chest. I will most likely not go down to farm fams.
I feel like the community has become incredibly hive minded lately, nexon makes 1 good decision and all of a sudden it is actively frowned upon to criticize them on anything at all... feels really strange how much people are getting mad at others for just wanting to raise a pain point they have with the game.
even if people disagree with u, the things u brought up are SUPER legitimate, idk why its so wrong to just bring up something like that... sad.
jesus christ what a dumb take
i dont understand why everyone is crying lol. Its a video about his progression. Not a guide for other players.
YOU KNOWWWWW shit is getting real when the mellow SOGA gets upset
Yes they made a dumb decision
For all existing players
But new players
The ones that will help grow this game and keep this game alive
Are the ones we need to feed the most imo
More players
More voices
And the game will get better
Hoping
But of course
Everyone agrees it was grimey not to just add all the fams in the first place
Adding familiars only to Cernium is an anti-pattern. Being able to acquire both familiars and fragments in Cernium skews the value of time spent there disproportionately compared to any other area in Grandis. Cernium will be highly populated and players in the level range for which it is intended will likely struggle to find maps, with the area instead being dominated by people outside the intended level bracket optimizing their farming value. Even without that, it just doesn't make a lot of sense that you are somehow discouraged from moving onto high level zones as you reach those levels.
This is highly unpopular, but it's my opinion that it would have been better not to introduce this change at all, and instead wait for a time where a more elegant solution could be implemented. This is an ugly bandaid fix and is only superficially attractive.
Saying they will consider adding familiars to zones later on is moot. We don't know how long that will take. It is likely that they never intend to add familiars to the most current zones.
This is my video for week 81 of my progression series. I hope you like this somewhat different style from my other videos. I felt like condensing down my opinion into one relatively short video on this topic. I think most people assume, they are going to dip into Cernium for 2 weeks and get out with 100+% of boss damage familiars; which does not reflect my 7 month experience of grinding for familiars in Limina. While this is still a good change for many people, it doesn't do me any good.
I normally love your videos, but no one made you grind familiars in limina, it was a trade off getting better rates, or grind fams. You prioritize whatever you want.
Yeah just sound salty a f rn. This is a pretty L take and hope you can bounce back. Love your content though.
You don’t have to do anything, be happy for other people.
People acting like the title isn't "my progression". He makes good reasonable points for HIS progression. There will be players in similar situations that shouldn't farm in Cernium for too long.
Y'all acting like him making this video somehow deletes Cernium fams. It just helps advocate for more fams in later areas.