I also liked it, and I think most of regular ZZZ players also liked it. The complaints are mainly from those who already left. In my eyes it just destroyed its own identity
@@xunliu9653 I think its okay without, but it's certainly one of the biggest aspects that make the game unique. I hope they find more uses for it, or bring it back to some capacity.
I'll just say this. I spent money on this game and even bought multiple month subscriptions. But now that TV is gone, this game is no different from PGR, Aether Gazer, even WuWa has better combat. The game lost all its charm, so I uninstalled it, and it's highly unlikely I'll ever play another Hoyo game after they betrayed players like me. Currently HSR is the only Hoyo game I play, probably won't play any future ones.
Good bye. Hoyo won't miss you because with you gone Hoyo gets 2 new players to take your place. Face it. TV mode was a failure with the audience they tried to attract. Yes. It will be like Aether Gazer and many ARPGS like it. And it will be good for the game financially. Why? It's popular. Hoyo is now learning sometimes the wheel doesn't need to be reinvented.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Well I probably won't be playing any new Hoyo games either, plenty of alternatives, I will not waste time on games where they revamp the entire thing 2 months after launch. Tons of other high quality gachas are coming from other companies, Hoyo won't be able to hold the candle forever when their competition produces just as good games but with less greedy gacha and with tons more gameplay and less of hand holding.
it has to be less handholding, less explaininjg me exactly what to do, and less frequent. like it is fun and unique but shouldnt be in every damn mission, in hollow zero its really useful it actually has a reason to exist but in main story content it just feels like its there to fill up time because the patch otherwise falls flat and feels short.
tbh i only found tv mode fun in hollow zero. since you have a lot of choice and risk/reward as to how you complete objectives. story mode would benefit a lot if it just let you run wild in a semi randomized dungeon.
Exactly. They should just implement the Hollow Zero gimmick in story mode so people would feel engaged in it, rather than feel being labored to it. Like, for example, adding nodes with buff so you can collect those buff to help you beat the enemies in story mode, or secret nodes to collect more dennies/ascend mats
People complain about tv mode but they will notice how BOORING the game looks without it, it losed all it's charm and everything feels too fast, chapter 4 was great and I must admit it didn't need tv mode at all because of the context, but it still made the story mode way faster than the previous ones making it feel really short. When it ended I was like: Really? Is that it? The games just needs balance, there can be a mix between playstyles, like a hollow with a fully explorable section with many combats, and then a little bit of tv mode to move from one side to another, or they could just use tv mode for depending on wther or not the context need it, but removing it completely is too drastic, and it will kil the game completely. I love hollow zero becuase to me, it's the closest we are to the "peak" of the tv mode, requiring strategy and such, but they made THAT gamemode the weekly one and Shiyu is the other one, which can exhaust the players. I think a quarterly version of hollow zero would be the best way to address it... but yeah, the playerbase who hate the TV mode doesn't notice all of this and only wants the tv mode gone, making it harder for the devs to inprove it to it's perfection. Geez.
kinda saw it that way. the main story on calydon is too fast now. to me i like the TVs in a sense that you're discovering other areas with it, or encountering those random events -- thats what makes it fun i think the noisy content creators are just the ones who dont like it
Hoyoverse follows the numbers when they make changes. Clearly they saw a big drop off BECAUSE of the tv mode, hence their need to change in quickly. You're in the vocal minority that thinks TV mode is good. I myself and a group of friends quit soley because of the tv mode. It's just not fun. It's a terrible way to tell a story in a game and has 0 immersion. This is my opinion and you may disagree, which many will, but I'm part of the statistic that Hoyoverse needed to cater to quickly (dropping players).
@@LAGxSour I disagree with some things in your comments the first one, nope, hoyo does not care about anything the playerbase has to say most of the time, Genshin has being receiving comments about many things since 4 years ago and devs haven't paid attention to anything no matter how simple it was until like version 4.7, the second one being, it's not a mayority, at most, it's like 30% of the playerbase, I've seeing more people liking it or being okay with it, than people complaining, an even the people who complain do not want it completely remove, just... not that exaggerated. Almost all conversations about ir go about the mode being too overwhelming and used unnecessarily rather than it being bad or good. Just bad executed. The 3rd thing being inmersion. Tell me, is there any better way to make the feeling of someone guiding remotely the characters through a big place? Doing it through screens and from a computer? Cuz that's literally what we are doing and even people who dislike it had said how it fits lorewise. I mean, I understand you don't like it, but people tend to say unrelated things about 1 specific aspect of a game bringing non-related things to the argument. I may not like the dating system but I won't say it's not inmersive just because it wasn't inmersive for me because I dislike it. That's my point. Obviously it won't be inmersive if for you, the system AS A WHOLE was a pain in the back-lower-side of the body.
I would rather a short story be short instead of being padded with T.V. and actually having the same amount of story/content. The beginning of the game was so damn painful and the player drop off shows that. The majority of people who were interested in the game left due to the T.V.s even among the remaining players its not very much liked. I think Hoyo would have been fine leaving it as a more niche game like tears of themis but genshin and star rail revenue plummeted the patch immediately after ZZZ launched. You can say you like the T.V.s all you want but if the game doesnt make money it dies, even Hoyo is not immune.
to me i hate it at first, but as i progress i kinda liked it. it has its charms, its like playing a boardgame. removing it then makes it like we're just playing any other hoyoburst game. its just honkai impact now, only it looks better
Yeah, there can't possibly be anything that could replace the TV system in the future right? No imagination whatsoever. Thank god you guys aren't game designers.
Have you ever played SoulWorker? That's how it was there but it was great fun because the story was solid. And it didn't detract from combat because the characters spoke to you during the sequences. It's quite similar to the recent story combat sections, actually, which were pretty good.
@@F34RDSoldier805thanks GOD you are not a game designer because you obviously can’t see that is not a term of imagination is a term of the game was designed with these central mechanics, the mind when removing it falls to pieces
This is one of those examples that "you can't make everyone happy" everyone complained about it and now that they're removing it everyone still complained about it.
That's the Problem. They likely saw the huge Drop off in those chapters and realize that TV mode will filter out most players. All they care is getting more players in. I can see removing TV mode inevitably paying dividends. Remember this is a big overhaul of those early chapters. They clearly saw the massive player drop off to force this change.b @@Kas-m2z
No, it's not a good decision. There was this game called FGO, and since the game was released people have been asking for an ult animation skip button (the ult is also called Noble Phantasm). The devs replied with: "Noble Phantasm is a part of Servant's identity. So, there will be no skip button" ZZZ should have pride with their game and tell those whiny players: "TV mode is a part of Proxy identity. We will not remove it" smh
Pride with their game that is losing absurd amounts of players all due to TV? There is no live service game without players and payers. It's never about pride in business
Hoping that the last story was the devs testing the waters. I don't think I have enough time with the TVs to form a overall opinion, but it is far from a bad system. It does have some boring segments, but removing it would feel like a death sentence. This system is also perfect in Hollow Zero, I really hope they never remove it there.
I think you're missing the point. Everyone loves pretty much everything else about the game but the people who like the t.v like the rest of the game and will stick around the people who dont like the t.v. have firmly proven that they will leave the game despite liking everything else. This is not a boycott situation where people complain and keep playing the game, the drop off is drastic. Most people here pushed through so they are either ambivalent or like it but the fact that the T.V. recall was met with such praise when it was announced speaks to the playerbases true feelings. Some of the T.V. missions are good but it is unequivocally my least favourite part of the game. If there is something you like less than the T.V.s meaning if you could you would permanently get rid of that gameplay mechanic instead to save the T.Vs then post it below (unfortunately you cant get rid of some things like the gacha or stamina). If not then you are hamstringing the game because you dont mind something that the majority of people dropped the game over. Is it possible to "fix" the T.Vs? Sure, but they had had 3 betas and a full release to try. They are only human, they couldn't do it.
TV mode really made players drop off the game? I guess Hoyo does have the data related to that TV thing resulting for them to remove it on the main story.
As someone who accepted the tv system like a good consumer it could get a little too much especially during story mode. I can understand if noobs or super casuals would drop the game during early game. I'm open to changes but I wouldn't complain if they kept the same tv system during 1.0
Nah. The Siblings are still the Main character. They are the connective tissue between all the factions in this game anyways. Some factions wont realistically interact with each other outside of happenstance.
I believe the TV system is more of like their way to cut cost. if they remove it it cost them more. but since they made huge profit already, they are willing to put more effort on the game experience. which means in the future when people got tired of playing zzz and profit are not that coming. they probably bring it back to cut cost.
nah, it was made thinking about cell phones, you can't fit so many buttons to have good mobility because it doesn't fit on a cell phone, and the way they found to give a rhythm to the Game was with Puzzle in the form of TVs which thanks to themselves design gives the ability to have multiple variants
They were a waste of time and player who tried out the game and hated it was because of the TV system. They made a great choice of using it in modes that actually makes sense like the Hollow. If you guys think the TV system is what made this game good, and not wanting to get to the combat as the focus of the game, thinking that without it the game is boring, then maybe, just maybe, the game is boring to you. If you guys think this system is what made this game good, then this game would not last if they kept focusing on it, because most people thought it was a waste of time and it scared new players away. And I know how much Hoyo players like to gate keep, but that isn't a good thing if you want the game to last and keep growing. The sooner they got rid of that system the better, so that they can move on to building the game around the combat and more variety of sub modes like puzzles then the TV mode that was meant to do nothing but pad time. That's all this was and I have no idea why people defend it so hard. It's like those people that hate any change that happens within their game, even if it's for the betterment of it's future. The TV system was not a good system to focus the game around. Having side objectives in it was fine, but to do it for every single thing just to get to the combat was horrible game design. And people say, "well now it's just running from checkpoint to checkpoint and there's nothing to do" like this is their first live service game and they can't ever create a new better system to replace it and actually base the game on, again, the combat, actually using our characters we pull, and other side missions and minigames like puzzles. If you guys think this was a bad choice, you guys have no imagination to how this could make the game better in the future. This was absolutely a great choice for the game. For F sake, we spent more time looking at the TV system then playing the game as we progress through the chapters. And you guys expect new players ,or even players who stick with the game for a while, to stick with a game and pull for characters with a focus on a system that tries it's hardest to keep you away from actually playing and using those characters? Some common sense in the community please?
Your comment is so bad in so many nivels that it is even funny. You say that since it is a combat game it should focus only on combat, which if you have played other action games you will know that it is stupid, you know what Doom, DMC, What does Hi Fi rush have in common? which are combat games which have slower and louder sections to generate a rhythm, because and clearly you don't know it, a game that only has its combat becomes boring in the short and long term, just look at KH2, it is a game with a hilarious combat that lacks anything else and becomes boring for this very reason. Do you propose that we "have Imagination" but let's be realistic, can something else be done? There are three alternatives, the Puzzles, which were the TVs. Having platform sections seems like a good idea until you realize that ZZZ has very poor movement, you might think, why not include a dobe sato air dash jump etc. Why is it unfeasible, not only would we have to design entire new platform sections but also add new movement mechanics to all the characters and that is extremely expensive. And the exploration....the whole game happens in the hollows which are lore changing and unstable...well as a Persona fan I can say that if the TV seems tedious you are not ready for a "Tartarus"
I’ve maintained an opinion about “TV mode” since launch that the only real mistake with it is that they mostly failed to create immersive environmental storytelling and the ability to feel like a navigator within the mode. Every stage is, “where am I? A sea of black screens.” This one aspect creates a dissonance between the combat and navigation and makes people bored. I for one, want to be able to tell I’m actually in a train station, a construction site, a haunted hotel, and the wastes of a desert. Alongside cute character interactions that feel like they’re breaking into the environment itself. Now there’s always going to be people who go “lol fight fight this supposed to be a combat game fight fight” but still.
Outside of Hollow Zero I ain’t really like it. It just takes too much time away from the story and combat. But with Hollow Zero you’re just picking up a bunch of perks (Resonium right?) and you get to make actual decisions. I don’t like how the puzzles are time consuming but also linear, I’d rather just go straight into combat
I hated that shit so it can stay gone.... The side quest tv missions themselves have made me hate them even more.... How about we just see what is going on instead...
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Your review of the tv removal is perfect and spot on. I hope more people voice their dislike of the tv removal so they bring it back.
I guess I was the only one who loved the TV system because I love puzzles
I liked it, I just didnt like when they were super long and drawn out. Some of the more unique puzzles were also quite fun.
I like it, too. I think many players like it, but they are not the loud ones.
@@the_meerkat1386 fair enough but the Hollow points with TV gambling goes hard
I also liked it, and I think most of regular ZZZ players also liked it. The complaints are mainly from those who already left. In my eyes it just destroyed its own identity
@@xunliu9653 I think its okay without, but it's certainly one of the biggest aspects that make the game unique.
I hope they find more uses for it, or bring it back to some capacity.
Seeing how so many people complain about the TV system, I think this is an improvement. It's a whatever for me.
I'll just say this. I spent money on this game and even bought multiple month subscriptions. But now that TV is gone, this game is no different from PGR, Aether Gazer, even WuWa has better combat. The game lost all its charm, so I uninstalled it, and it's highly unlikely I'll ever play another Hoyo game after they betrayed players like me. Currently HSR is the only Hoyo game I play, probably won't play any future ones.
Good bye. Hoyo won't miss you because with you gone Hoyo gets 2 new players to take your place.
Face it. TV mode was a failure with the audience they tried to attract.
Yes. It will be like Aether Gazer and many ARPGS like it. And it will be good for the game financially.
Why? It's popular. Hoyo is now learning sometimes the wheel doesn't need to be reinvented.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Well I probably won't be playing any new Hoyo games either, plenty of alternatives, I will not waste time on games where they revamp the entire thing 2 months after launch.
Tons of other high quality gachas are coming from other companies, Hoyo won't be able to hold the candle forever when their competition produces just as good games but with less greedy gacha and with tons more gameplay and less of hand holding.
@@silverhawkscape2677the problem was that the audience of hoyovera don’t understand TV and without it the Game is objectively worst
It seem people didnt read the fine print. They said they removing it (for now) will add them back in the later date
why isnt this liked more?
it has to be less handholding, less explaininjg me exactly what to do, and less frequent.
like it is fun and unique but shouldnt be in every damn mission, in hollow zero its really useful it actually has a reason to exist but in main story content it just feels like its there to fill up time because the patch otherwise falls flat and feels short.
tbh i only found tv mode fun in hollow zero. since you have a lot of choice and risk/reward as to how you complete objectives. story mode would benefit a lot if it just let you run wild in a semi randomized dungeon.
Exactly. They should just implement the Hollow Zero gimmick in story mode so people would feel engaged in it, rather than feel being labored to it. Like, for example, adding nodes with buff so you can collect those buff to help you beat the enemies in story mode, or secret nodes to collect more dennies/ascend mats
Haz a Persona Fan I can say that is a worst Idea actually
People complain about tv mode but they will notice how BOORING the game looks without it, it losed all it's charm and everything feels too fast, chapter 4 was great and I must admit it didn't need tv mode at all because of the context, but it still made the story mode way faster than the previous ones making it feel really short. When it ended I was like: Really? Is that it?
The games just needs balance, there can be a mix between playstyles, like a hollow with a fully explorable section with many combats, and then a little bit of tv mode to move from one side to another, or they could just use tv mode for depending on wther or not the context need it, but removing it completely is too drastic, and it will kil the game completely. I love hollow zero becuase to me, it's the closest we are to the "peak" of the tv mode, requiring strategy and such, but they made THAT gamemode the weekly one and Shiyu is the other one, which can exhaust the players. I think a quarterly version of hollow zero would be the best way to address it... but yeah, the playerbase who hate the TV mode doesn't notice all of this and only wants the tv mode gone, making it harder for the devs to inprove it to it's perfection. Geez.
kinda saw it that way. the main story on calydon is too fast now. to me i like the TVs in a sense that you're discovering other areas with it, or encountering those random events -- thats what makes it fun
i think the noisy content creators are just the ones who dont like it
Hoyoverse follows the numbers when they make changes. Clearly they saw a big drop off BECAUSE of the tv mode, hence their need to change in quickly. You're in the vocal minority that thinks TV mode is good. I myself and a group of friends quit soley because of the tv mode. It's just not fun. It's a terrible way to tell a story in a game and has 0 immersion. This is my opinion and you may disagree, which many will, but I'm part of the statistic that Hoyoverse needed to cater to quickly (dropping players).
@@LAGxSour I disagree with some things in your comments the first one, nope, hoyo does not care about anything the playerbase has to say most of the time, Genshin has being receiving comments about many things since 4 years ago and devs haven't paid attention to anything no matter how simple it was until like version 4.7, the second one being, it's not a mayority, at most, it's like 30% of the playerbase, I've seeing more people liking it or being okay with it, than people complaining, an even the people who complain do not want it completely remove, just... not that exaggerated. Almost all conversations about ir go about the mode being too overwhelming and used unnecessarily rather than it being bad or good. Just bad executed.
The 3rd thing being inmersion. Tell me, is there any better way to make the feeling of someone guiding remotely the characters through a big place? Doing it through screens and from a computer? Cuz that's literally what we are doing and even people who dislike it had said how it fits lorewise.
I mean, I understand you don't like it, but people tend to say unrelated things about 1 specific aspect of a game bringing non-related things to the argument. I may not like the dating system but I won't say it's not inmersive just because it wasn't inmersive for me because I dislike it. That's my point. Obviously it won't be inmersive if for you, the system AS A WHOLE was a pain in the back-lower-side of the body.
😂 the only reason the game feels fast is because tv mode is a time vampire,
I would rather a short story be short instead of being padded with T.V. and actually having the same amount of story/content. The beginning of the game was so damn painful and the player drop off shows that. The majority of people who were interested in the game left due to the T.V.s even among the remaining players its not very much liked. I think Hoyo would have been fine leaving it as a more niche game like tears of themis but genshin and star rail revenue plummeted the patch immediately after ZZZ launched. You can say you like the T.V.s all you want but if the game doesnt make money it dies, even Hoyo is not immune.
to me i hate it at first, but as i progress i kinda liked it. it has its charms, its like playing a boardgame.
removing it then makes it like we're just playing any other hoyoburst game. its just honkai impact now, only it looks better
Now story mission will be like HI3rd. Just running from checkpoint to checkpoint. And ain’t nobody liked those.
Yeah, there can't possibly be anything that could replace the TV system in the future right? No imagination whatsoever. Thank god you guys aren't game designers.
The rally missions are actually extremely popular what is this denial of reality.
Rally missions actually being the popular mode: 👀
Have you ever played SoulWorker? That's how it was there but it was great fun because the story was solid. And it didn't detract from combat because the characters spoke to you during the sequences. It's quite similar to the recent story combat sections, actually, which were pretty good.
@@F34RDSoldier805thanks GOD you are not a game designer because you obviously can’t see that is not a term of imagination is a term of the game was designed with these central mechanics, the mind when removing it falls to pieces
This is one of those examples that "you can't make everyone happy" everyone complained about it and now that they're removing it everyone still complained about it.
But addressing the majority's problem matters.
Majority of those who complained already got filtered, they shouldn't have removed it for people that stayed.
That's the Problem. They likely saw the huge Drop off in those chapters and realize that TV mode will filter out most players. All they care is getting more players in.
I can see removing TV mode inevitably paying dividends.
Remember this is a big overhaul of those early chapters. They clearly saw the massive player drop off to force this change.b
@@Kas-m2z
No, it's not a good decision.
There was this game called FGO, and since the game was released people have been asking for an ult animation skip button (the ult is also called Noble Phantasm). The devs replied with: "Noble Phantasm is a part of Servant's identity. So, there will be no skip button"
ZZZ should have pride with their game and tell those whiny players: "TV mode is a part of Proxy identity. We will not remove it" smh
No wonder FGO is in the state it is in. Everyone I know who play FGO just logs in to pull new units and log off.
@@OmniNatureSmore literally me😂😂
Let's just ignore player feedback 👍
Pride with their game that is losing absurd amounts of players all due to TV? There is no live service game without players and payers. It's never about pride in business
Players: Ok. We quit this game.
Hoyoverse: Wait. Not like that.
I think they better get rid of the tv but not in story mode since its one time experience.
Some people love Otome game style, over the tv mode.Where mc building trust with playable characters and they give player this dating sim vibes.😅
That literally the marketing . who else would be attracted by the Jade marketing?
Hoping that the last story was the devs testing the waters. I don't think I have enough time with the TVs to form a overall opinion, but it is far from a bad system. It does have some boring segments, but removing it would feel like a death sentence. This system is also perfect in Hollow Zero, I really hope they never remove it there.
I think you're missing the point. Everyone loves pretty much everything else about the game but the people who like the t.v like the rest of the game and will stick around the people who dont like the t.v. have firmly proven that they will leave the game despite liking everything else. This is not a boycott situation where people complain and keep playing the game, the drop off is drastic. Most people here pushed through so they are either ambivalent or like it but the fact that the T.V. recall was met with such praise when it was announced speaks to the playerbases true feelings.
Some of the T.V. missions are good but it is unequivocally my least favourite part of the game. If there is something you like less than the T.V.s meaning if you could you would permanently get rid of that gameplay mechanic instead to save the T.Vs then post it below (unfortunately you cant get rid of some things like the gacha or stamina). If not then you are hamstringing the game because you dont mind something that the majority of people dropped the game over.
Is it possible to "fix" the T.Vs? Sure, but they had had 3 betas and a full release to try. They are only human, they couldn't do it.
Indeed, indeed!
TV mode really made players drop off the game? I guess Hoyo does have the data related to that TV thing resulting for them to remove it on the main story.
@@onelasada1707 I think its peculation but makes sense. They are literally reworking older chapters because of removing TV mode.
@@silverhawkscape2677that’s a very bad Idea
its just when it takes 15mins+ it can be kind of a drag
As someone who accepted the tv system like a good consumer it could get a little too much especially during story mode. I can understand if noobs or super casuals would drop the game during early game. I'm open to changes but I wouldn't complain if they kept the same tv system during 1.0
Nah. The Siblings are still the Main character. They are the connective tissue between all the factions in this game anyways. Some factions wont realistically interact with each other outside of happenstance.
I believe the TV system is more of like their way to cut cost.
if they remove it it cost them more. but since they made huge profit already, they are willing to put more effort on the game experience.
which means in the future when people got tired of playing zzz and profit are not that coming.
they probably bring it back to cut cost.
Exactly. Zzz is made to help cut cost.
nah, it was made thinking about cell phones, you can't fit so many buttons to have good mobility because it doesn't fit on a cell phone, and the way they found to give a rhythm to the Game was with Puzzle in the form of TVs which thanks to themselves design gives the ability to have multiple variants
i miss the tv mode so much man, now the protagonist just feels useless
They were a waste of time and player who tried out the game and hated it was because of the TV system. They made a great choice of using it in modes that actually makes sense like the Hollow. If you guys think the TV system is what made this game good, and not wanting to get to the combat as the focus of the game, thinking that without it the game is boring, then maybe, just maybe, the game is boring to you. If you guys think this system is what made this game good, then this game would not last if they kept focusing on it, because most people thought it was a waste of time and it scared new players away. And I know how much Hoyo players like to gate keep, but that isn't a good thing if you want the game to last and keep growing. The sooner they got rid of that system the better, so that they can move on to building the game around the combat and more variety of sub modes like puzzles then the TV mode that was meant to do nothing but pad time. That's all this was and I have no idea why people defend it so hard. It's like those people that hate any change that happens within their game, even if it's for the betterment of it's future. The TV system was not a good system to focus the game around. Having side objectives in it was fine, but to do it for every single thing just to get to the combat was horrible game design.
And people say, "well now it's just running from checkpoint to checkpoint and there's nothing to do" like this is their first live service game and they can't ever create a new better system to replace it and actually base the game on, again, the combat, actually using our characters we pull, and other side missions and minigames like puzzles. If you guys think this was a bad choice, you guys have no imagination to how this could make the game better in the future. This was absolutely a great choice for the game. For F sake, we spent more time looking at the TV system then playing the game as we progress through the chapters. And you guys expect new players ,or even players who stick with the game for a while, to stick with a game and pull for characters with a focus on a system that tries it's hardest to keep you away from actually playing and using those characters? Some common sense in the community please?
Your comment is so bad in so many nivels that it is even funny. You say that since it is a combat game it should focus only on combat, which if you have played other action games you will know that it is stupid, you know what Doom, DMC, What does Hi Fi rush have in common? which are combat games which have slower and louder sections to generate a rhythm, because and clearly you don't know it, a game that only has its combat becomes boring in the short and long term, just look at KH2, it is a game with a hilarious combat that lacks anything else and becomes boring for this very reason. Do you propose that we "have Imagination" but let's be realistic, can something else be done? There are three alternatives, the Puzzles, which were the TVs. Having platform sections seems like a good idea until you realize that ZZZ has very poor movement, you might think, why not include a dobe sato air dash jump etc. Why is it unfeasible, not only would we have to design entire new platform sections but also add new movement mechanics to all the characters and that is extremely expensive. And the exploration....the whole game happens in the hollows which are lore changing and unstable...well as a Persona fan I can say that if the TV seems tedious you are not ready for a "Tartarus"
I’ve maintained an opinion about “TV mode” since launch that the only real mistake with it is that they mostly failed to create immersive environmental storytelling and the ability to feel like a navigator within the mode.
Every stage is, “where am I? A sea of black screens.” This one aspect creates a dissonance between the combat and navigation and makes people bored. I for one, want to be able to tell I’m actually in a train station, a construction site, a haunted hotel, and the wastes of a desert. Alongside cute character interactions that feel like they’re breaking into the environment itself.
Now there’s always going to be people who go “lol fight fight this supposed to be a combat game fight fight” but still.
I'd rather play tv mode than snake... I just can't get into the arcade games at all.
Outside of Hollow Zero I ain’t really like it. It just takes too much time away from the story and combat. But with Hollow Zero you’re just picking up a bunch of perks (Resonium right?) and you get to make actual decisions. I don’t like how the puzzles are time consuming but also linear, I’d rather just go straight into combat
I hated that shit so it can stay gone.... The side quest tv missions themselves have made me hate them even more....
How about we just see what is going on instead...
it was bad decision 1.2 story have really weird pacing
Yes removing it was a good decision, now they can focus on expanding combat mode.
Yes it was boring in story mode