I really like the way the progression works in zomboid. How you go from living on scavenged food and gear, in the towns, to moving into the woods, foraging and farming, is so cool.
In my opinion it’s kind of the other way around. Depends on your character obviously but I generally run to the wilderness at first to improve my survival skills and only once I have some combat skills, fitness and whatnot do I move back into town with my van to kick some zeds in the dirt and reestablish civilization as a one-man Republic of Dave type of democratically elected leader.
@@indeed1881 This gives me a great idea, I could fence off a small part of the city, say 2 or 3 houses and then dress up a few mannequins to be my loyal subjects. While I get to play president daddy.
Personally, stick traps are the best as long as you have a good amount of twine. You can forage for worms to bait them so you are not using food and I have had good luck catching birds. Unless you leave them for too long they rarely break, and if they do, you get your twine back. Have had good luck even mid November.
I care about the Strength gains boost from Protein. I used to rely a lot on Stick Traps, when Small Bird Meat had its own Protein value that was particularly high. Combining it with Cabbage or Potato worked perfectly. With the recent changes though, it's no longer a particularly efficient source of Protein. But also with more recent changes, you actually have to worry about getting too much protein because Calorie consumption increased, but Protein consumption wasn't. Stick Traps are best for Hunger because it's convenient.
After someone went digging through the game code and brought this to my attention, it looks like the wiki is actually based on Build 40 and hasn't been updated for Build 41. These are now the catch percentages for traps in B41: RABBITS Trap Cage = 40 Trap Snare = 30 Trap Box = 30 Trap Crate = 30 SQUIRRELS Trap Cage = 40 Trap Snare = 30 Trap Box = 25 Trap Crate = 30 So, it looks like crates are still the best until the Trap Cage, but the cage does now increase catch percentage by 10%.
awesome video as usual, but i've been thinking about the trap percentages.. might sound counterintuitive, but having the 2nd tier trap favor rabbits (the better meat source) over squirrels, that might mean a higher average meat generation.. i dont think it would be noticeable until you have something like 100 catches, and i'm also probably not able to throw the right kind of math at this :
So, on build 41.68, I don't have the plain starting Trap Crate, but I read the magazine for the Box and have that. Are the crates no longer craftable immediately / need a magazine?
Thanks for the advice, I’m now a project zomboid drug kingpin In all seriousness, I’m excited to try out trapping for the first time in my play-through. It’s a couple months away from winter and I’m excited to get my food storage up!
Yes! Needed these tips! Thanks for doing this duck, once again it’s really informative. Especially for those of us are improving into the later stages of the game!
Just subscribed! Your straight-forward format is easily digestible and very helpful. I feel like I'm really able to get stuck into PZ now that I'm feeling just a bit more confident. So thanks very much! :) Here's a question - how do YOU like to play the game? Are there routines you stick with or do you find yourself roleplaying different archetypes/rulesets? The sheer depth of this game is sometimes so intimidating, I get roleplayer's block!
Thank you! That's exactly what I'm going for, quick and easy to follow, so that's good to hear. Good question too, I really like setting myself up with some sort of semi-roleplay build, and the modded maps really help with this. Raven Creek for example has spawns for each occupation, so police officers often spawn by the stations. I do however tend to take a few perks as standard. Smoker, Prone to Illness and Weak Stomach for example are some really good ones to take for points, then I grab Graceful and Inconspicuous to lower my aggro chances. Feel free to swing by the stream if you want to watch me play live, or hop in our Discord :) Links in the desc!
I'm really enjoying your PZ content. If you have the time I would like to see more! A tutorial that would breakdown the good/bad/ugly of what each of the weapons are capable of and when to swing up get that crunch. L
I found it strange that traps would be that way so I checked the code and cage trap actually has 40% chance. It looks like the wiki is not fully updated yet. Relevant code here: rabbit.traps["Base.TrapCage"] = 40; rabbit.traps["Base.TrapSnare"] = 30; rabbit.traps["Base.TrapBox"] = 30; rabbit.traps["Base.TrapCrate"] = 30; ... squirrel.traps["Base.TrapBox"] = 25; squirrel.traps["Base.TrapCage"] = 40; squirrel.traps["Base.TrapCrate"] = 30; squirrel.traps["Base.TrapSnare"] = 30;
@@MrAtomicDuck That would be great! The file is: \ProjectZomboid\media\lua\server\Traps\TrapDefinition.lua Although, now that I think about it, maybe in v40 it is 30% and wiki is for that version, since v41 is still beta.
Do you have any good tips regarding getting players on a server? We run a hardcore 10 years later roleplay type of server but we never get any people on :/ which really kills my motivation after working for nearly 3 months on making everything perfect
Building from the ground up is incredibly difficult, you're going to be up against communities that have existed for a long time already. You need to be doing something completely unique, and then advertise whatever that is. It might not be what you want to hear having put in so much work, but unless you have an existing community to bring to the table, or an audience that already supports you, you're just going to have an incredibly tough time drawing people to a server; especially if it's whitelisted like many RP servers are.
@@MrAtomicDuck thanks for the quick response! ill just keep trying then! :D we dont run a whitelist but got a decent staff team so basically ones online all the time which hopefully combats people that ignore rules.
Okay question- am I stupid or did I just miss something? I learned the trap crate recipe from a VHS but for some reason can’t find where to even make it
trapping at beginner level is frustating and some of the materials to make the trap are rares (twine, wires). I have walled a big area between the construction site and fancy restaurant on riverside and go through a lot of cabbages until I find the exact time I need to check my traps (6-8am). Then now it no longer catch a thing again. However, I feel trapping will be more profitable than fishing in the long run since fishing need unrenewable materials (unless spear fishing, which is low catch rate) and the nutrition on rabbit is just too good to pass.
I actually have a question for you; is trapping season dependent? I've not caught a squirrel or rabbit since before December, and can only seemingly catch small birds in the dead of winter. I just want to know if I'm having rotten luck or if it's intended gameplay
Sounds like rotten luck to me, I've had no trouble catching birds or rabbits throughout the first 3 months of gameplay on a standard session. I wouldn't be surprised if winter reduces catch rates though.
Kinda newbie here, I would like to know if it's possible to live only with foraging and trapping (maybe fishing too). I mean, can you forage baits? I wouldn't like to depend on agriculture since I'm playing as a nomad.
As with most skills, doing the activity! Just start dedicating some time to foraging here and there and let it level up naturally. Having that exp boost from books will be really helpful.
Hello I have a bit of a problem with placing bait and I can't find any solutions online. I have a full cereal box in my main inventory and have a trap crate placed but when I right click it doesn't show an option to place bait. I've tried everything including using vegetables and other types of traps but nothing seems to work.
Help, ive placed alot of traps but seem to only be able to bait 4 at a time I've placed about 12 traps, I've made sure they are in different forest areas the same was foraging works. Is this bait capacity intentional or a bug?
That seems odd, I wanna say that might be related to the bait itself rather than the traps? Perhaps the bait you're using is getting used up and then it's trying to use that bait rather than looking for another type?
@@MrAtomicDuck You were right, I had bait but it was all at too low nutrition to use, now I'm up to 16 traps, almost more than I can keep up with bait Can't wait for the new hunting and gathering mechanics Just want to say thanks for the content between you and Ambiguousamphibian I've stayed sane in lockdown, you two are top tier and like a virtual LAN party while I'm playing PZ. Thanks
I really never mess around with trapping b/c I usually fish or hunt game instead, but this guide may push me to try it out. One thing, with the traps having a 75-tile radius before becoming effective, the tiles mentioned can be counted with the walk-to function in-game right?
Yeah, that's right! Although, it's usually pretty easy to guess the rough distance. Honestly, trapping is just really good as there's minimal time investment to make it work. I do need to try a game hunting mod though!
@@MrAtomicDuck From your previous msgs Duck, I know you like to keep things pretty vanilla, with some mod sprinkling here and there, but I'd encourage you to try it out if you can. I feel hunting is a worthwhile addition to the game, it gives a renewable source of food regardless of the season, and is rewarding if you have the resources to invest into it. Plus, it gives a purpose to all the weapons and ammo you get from killing Raiders if you use Superb Survivors, apart from just melting them all down for smithing purposes.
Some things to check: Make sure you're using the right bait, according to the wiki. Make sure your trap is 75 tiles from your base. Make sure you're checking around once a day, sometimes they'll escape otherwise. Try a new area for them! Sometimes it's just not a good spot.
Use the Forage thing to know the biome. Biomes matter for the loot table. I've been frustrated by some areas that looked like the perfect place for trapping, bit it turned out that it's not tagged to any biome.
you didnt show the character baiting the trap... I have no idea how to bait mouse trap, I try to search for the option but it doesn't show up, must I just drop the cheese on top of the trap?
For some reason my character doesn't know any crafting recipes that don't require a trapping skill of at least 2 to craft... Which means I seemingly have no way of levelling my trapping now? Seems odd.
the problem is...... the TV programs are gone, i am level 0 trapping (have read a magazine on how to make traps) BUT i require to be at least level 1 trapper to f7cking make a trap lmao, i cant seem to find any solutions on the internet and i have an advanced base and running out of food
@@echoplayzzz Would you care to share more landmarks? I've cleared pretty much all Rosewood, but no ponds. Even in PZ map, there are no ponds. I think those are from mods.
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I really like the way the progression works in zomboid. How you go from living on scavenged food and gear, in the towns, to moving into the woods, foraging and farming, is so cool.
For sure! Long term survival depends on making the best of your survival skills.
In my opinion it’s kind of the other way around. Depends on your character obviously but I generally run to the wilderness at first to improve my survival skills and only once I have some combat skills, fitness and whatnot do I move back into town with my van to kick some zeds in the dirt and reestablish civilization as a one-man Republic of Dave type of democratically elected leader.
@@MrTaurieinberg it's great that you can do either, and you'll have vastly different stories for it
@@MrTaurieinberg did you include the 2 soldiers and like only 3 buildings, you are president daddy??
@@indeed1881 This gives me a great idea, I could fence off a small part of the city, say 2 or 3 houses and then dress up a few mannequins to be my loyal subjects. While I get to play president daddy.
Personally, stick traps are the best as long as you have a good amount of twine. You can forage for worms to bait them so you are not using food and I have had good luck catching birds. Unless you leave them for too long they rarely break, and if they do, you get your twine back. Have had good luck even mid November.
Yeah, it's nice for variety too! Catching different meats is just nice to make different recipes.
I care about the Strength gains boost from Protein. I used to rely a lot on Stick Traps, when Small Bird Meat had its own Protein value that was particularly high. Combining it with Cabbage or Potato worked perfectly.
With the recent changes though, it's no longer a particularly efficient source of Protein. But also with more recent changes, you actually have to worry about getting too much protein because Calorie consumption increased, but Protein consumption wasn't.
Stick Traps are best for Hunger because it's convenient.
After someone went digging through the game code and brought this to my attention, it looks like the wiki is actually based on Build 40 and hasn't been updated for Build 41.
These are now the catch percentages for traps in B41:
RABBITS
Trap Cage = 40
Trap Snare = 30
Trap Box = 30
Trap Crate = 30
SQUIRRELS
Trap Cage = 40
Trap Snare = 30
Trap Box = 25
Trap Crate = 30
So, it looks like crates are still the best until the Trap Cage, but the cage does now increase catch percentage by 10%.
awesome video as usual, but i've been thinking about the trap percentages.. might sound counterintuitive, but having the 2nd tier trap favor rabbits (the better meat source) over squirrels, that might mean a higher average meat generation.. i dont think it would be noticeable until you have something like 100 catches, and i'm also probably not able to throw the right kind of math at this :
So, on build 41.68, I don't have the plain starting Trap Crate, but I read the magazine for the Box and have that. Are the crates no longer craftable immediately / need a magazine?
Any tips or tricks you want to share about Trapping? Drop it!
I eat bees sometimes
I’ve been grinding this game so hard lately lol always something new to do
Thanks for the advice, I’m now a project zomboid drug kingpin
In all seriousness, I’m excited to try out trapping for the first time in my play-through. It’s a couple months away from winter and I’m excited to get my food storage up!
If only I knew this yesterday, I wouldn't have starved to death :D
Big sadge
@@MrAtomicDuck Big bulge in my pants
Ayeeeee i was in stream for this!
My man!
Yes! Needed these tips! Thanks for doing this duck, once again it’s really informative. Especially for those of us are improving into the later stages of the game!
Happy to help :)
Just subscribed! Your straight-forward format is easily digestible and very helpful. I feel like I'm really able to get stuck into PZ now that I'm feeling just a bit more confident. So thanks very much! :)
Here's a question - how do YOU like to play the game? Are there routines you stick with or do you find yourself roleplaying different archetypes/rulesets? The sheer depth of this game is sometimes so intimidating, I get roleplayer's block!
Thank you! That's exactly what I'm going for, quick and easy to follow, so that's good to hear.
Good question too, I really like setting myself up with some sort of semi-roleplay build, and the modded maps really help with this. Raven Creek for example has spawns for each occupation, so police officers often spawn by the stations. I do however tend to take a few perks as standard. Smoker, Prone to Illness and Weak Stomach for example are some really good ones to take for points, then I grab Graceful and Inconspicuous to lower my aggro chances.
Feel free to swing by the stream if you want to watch me play live, or hop in our Discord :) Links in the desc!
I'm really enjoying your PZ content. If you have the time I would like to see more! A tutorial that would breakdown the good/bad/ugly of what each of the weapons are capable of and when to swing up get that crunch. L
Might be a decent idea to do a video on weapons, might be able to do that in the future :)
I found it strange that traps would be that way so I checked the code and cage trap actually has 40% chance. It looks like the wiki is not fully updated yet.
Relevant code here:
rabbit.traps["Base.TrapCage"] = 40;
rabbit.traps["Base.TrapSnare"] = 30;
rabbit.traps["Base.TrapBox"] = 30;
rabbit.traps["Base.TrapCrate"] = 30;
...
squirrel.traps["Base.TrapBox"] = 25;
squirrel.traps["Base.TrapCage"] = 40;
squirrel.traps["Base.TrapCrate"] = 30;
squirrel.traps["Base.TrapSnare"] = 30;
I'll give this a look and see if I can update the wiki in that case! Can you direct me to the file this is in?
@@MrAtomicDuck That would be great! The file is: \ProjectZomboid\media\lua\server\Traps\TrapDefinition.lua
Although, now that I think about it, maybe in v40 it is 30% and wiki is for that version, since v41 is still beta.
@@moriakpotato I'll do some research and see if I can update it based on what the community suggests. Thanks for highlighting this!
Bro. Quality content right here
Glad you think so!
is the map you're playing on in the background footage part of a mod? If so what mod it looks nice
Raven Creek!
Bruh you are the best :D bored in work, and boom, new video :D
Glad I could help make your day a little less boring :)
does the veggies has to be fresh in traps? found a whole warehouse full of food crates and all of them are stale so was thinking of using it?
Pure knowledge of the game.
Thank you!
Instructions unclear, Keep finding astolfos in my snares.
Lmaoooo
Do you have any good tips regarding getting players on a server?
We run a hardcore 10 years later roleplay type of server but we never get any people on :/ which really kills my motivation after working for nearly 3 months on making everything perfect
Building from the ground up is incredibly difficult, you're going to be up against communities that have existed for a long time already. You need to be doing something completely unique, and then advertise whatever that is.
It might not be what you want to hear having put in so much work, but unless you have an existing community to bring to the table, or an audience that already supports you, you're just going to have an incredibly tough time drawing people to a server; especially if it's whitelisted like many RP servers are.
@@MrAtomicDuck thanks for the quick response! ill just keep trying then! :D we dont run a whitelist but got a decent staff team so basically ones online all the time which hopefully combats people that ignore rules.
Okay question- am I stupid or did I just miss something? I learned the trap crate recipe from a VHS but for some reason can’t find where to even make it
where is that small backyard pool we can see from the 5:00 mark?
Yo duck do you have a MP server? Next wipe ?
Yessir! Discord is in the description. Head there and check the #pz-server-info for details. Next wipe happens tomorrow!
trapping at beginner level is frustating and some of the materials to make the trap are rares (twine, wires). I have walled a big area between the construction site and fancy restaurant on riverside and go through a lot of cabbages until I find the exact time I need to check my traps (6-8am). Then now it no longer catch a thing again. However, I feel trapping will be more profitable than fishing in the long run since fishing need unrenewable materials (unless spear fishing, which is low catch rate) and the nutrition on rabbit is just too good to pass.
How effective are the berries you find while foraging as bait when used on the trap box?
How do u actually go about crafting them, have all the items, looked in every right click and crafting menu and i cant seem to find how to do it??
I wanted to try trapping. Berries are much easier to get though so I always did that
Makes sense! New foraging system on the way too!
I actually have a question for you; is trapping season dependent? I've not caught a squirrel or rabbit since before December, and can only seemingly catch small birds in the dead of winter. I just want to know if I'm having rotten luck or if it's intended gameplay
Sounds like rotten luck to me, I've had no trouble catching birds or rabbits throughout the first 3 months of gameplay on a standard session. I wouldn't be surprised if winter reduces catch rates though.
Big question: Can you use bait that isn't listed on the wiki? Things like berries or fish?
Not to my knowledge, its only specific items.
Thanks for the info!
No worries!
Did this change or does leveling trapping still not matter?
wow thanx :)
Happy to help!
Kinda newbie here, I would like to know if it's possible to live only with foraging and trapping (maybe fishing too). I mean, can you forage baits? I wouldn't like to depend on agriculture since I'm playing as a nomad.
sort of, you will need to fish a lot tho because trapping takes a long time and you will also need to find a way to freeze your meat so it doesnt rot
Does anyone know where he is fishing at 6:00?
hi, that base location look awesome, can you tell me the location ?
How can you level up foraging without any foraging levels and no TV
As with most skills, doing the activity! Just start dedicating some time to foraging here and there and let it level up naturally. Having that exp boost from books will be really helpful.
Can we put open canned carrots or peaches?
Hello I have a bit of a problem with placing bait and I can't find any solutions online. I have a full cereal box in my main inventory and have a trap crate placed but when I right click it doesn't show an option to place bait. I've tried everything including using vegetables and other types of traps but nothing seems to work.
Hi, idk if you still need this but cereal are used on stick trap
Help, ive placed alot of traps but seem to only be able to bait 4 at a time
I've placed about 12 traps, I've made sure they are in different forest areas the same was foraging works.
Is this bait capacity intentional or a bug?
That seems odd, I wanna say that might be related to the bait itself rather than the traps? Perhaps the bait you're using is getting used up and then it's trying to use that bait rather than looking for another type?
@@MrAtomicDuck You were right, I had bait but it was all at too low nutrition to use, now I'm up to 16 traps, almost more than I can keep up with bait
Can't wait for the new hunting and gathering mechanics
Just want to say thanks for the content between you and Ambiguousamphibian I've stayed sane in lockdown, you two are top tier and like a virtual LAN party while I'm playing PZ. Thanks
That means a lot man, thank you! Happy to be of service.
I really never mess around with trapping b/c I usually fish or hunt game instead, but this guide may push me to try it out. One thing, with the traps having a 75-tile radius before becoming effective, the tiles mentioned can be counted with the walk-to function in-game right?
Yeah, that's right! Although, it's usually pretty easy to guess the rough distance. Honestly, trapping is just really good as there's minimal time investment to make it work. I do need to try a game hunting mod though!
@@MrAtomicDuck From your previous msgs Duck, I know you like to keep things pretty vanilla, with some mod sprinkling here and there, but I'd encourage you to try it out if you can. I feel hunting is a worthwhile addition to the game, it gives a renewable source of food regardless of the season, and is rewarding if you have the resources to invest into it. Plus, it gives a purpose to all the weapons and ammo you get from killing Raiders if you use Superb Survivors, apart from just melting them all down for smithing purposes.
How exactly can I count tiles with the walk-to function? :D
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei Right click on an empty space, use walk to, your cursor changes into a box. Count the boxes
3:14 what's that climb mod
Bro I still haven't been able to trap stuff!They never in there when I come back 🤔
Some things to check:
Make sure you're using the right bait, according to the wiki.
Make sure your trap is 75 tiles from your base.
Make sure you're checking around once a day, sometimes they'll escape otherwise.
Try a new area for them! Sometimes it's just not a good spot.
You can also do the reverse. Set up traps in your base and when you come back later after a scavenging run, you get some extra food from traps.
Use the Forage thing to know the biome. Biomes matter for the loot table. I've been frustrated by some areas that looked like the perfect place for trapping, bit it turned out that it's not tagged to any biome.
do you need mods to find or trap animals?
Nope!
Can I use rotten veggies or food for bait?
Interesting question, I've never tried! I've always used it as compost for growing more food.
Only fresh works
you didnt show the character baiting the trap... I have no idea how to bait mouse trap, I try to search for the option but it doesn't show up, must I just drop the cheese on top of the trap?
I think that one doesn't work, gotta be one of the crafted traps
For some reason my character doesn't know any crafting recipes that don't require a trapping skill of at least 2 to craft... Which means I seemingly have no way of levelling my trapping now? Seems odd.
Keep an eye out for "The Hunter" magazines, they'll teach you some trapping recipes!
I can't get my trapping up from level zero to even make traps lol
the problem is......
the TV programs are gone, i am level 0 trapping (have read a magazine on how to make traps) BUT i require to be at least level 1 trapper to f7cking make a trap lmao, i cant seem to find any solutions on the internet and i have an advanced base and running out of food
go for vhs, they can lvl up some skill
can i catch without baits?
Why won't it let me make either of the starting traps?
hello how do you put the bait in the trap??
just saw how sorry i was earing the video only so jajaja thank for the guide by the way, saludos desde Honduras
A house with a pond in the garden, where is that place?
Its in rose wood a bit to the north
@@echoplayzzz Would you care to share more landmarks? I've cleared pretty much all Rosewood, but no ponds. Even in PZ map, there are no ponds. I think those are from mods.
Does "75 tiles from your base" actually mean "75 tiles from anything constructed by the player"?
It means that the player must be 75 tiles away for at least an hour for the trap to proc. Longer is better.
Cage traps are now 40%