I for one appreciate the enormous effort involved and enjoyed the reading. What a selfless contribution. No one need miss out because they can't see or afford to buy this. Brilliant.
Ill start from my last listen. I'll add on as I go. Thank me later Book 1 Chapter 2 31:15 Chapter 3 1:21:30 Chapter 4 1:54:43 Chapter 5 2:31:02 Book 2 (when the war begins) Chapter 6 3:16:38 Chapter 7 4:18:57 Chapter 8 4:57:32
4:35:49 Speech of Pericles to the despairing Athenians 6:29:22 Cleon's speech to execute the Mytilenes 9:38:50 Brasidas speech to win the support of the Acanthians
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took me around a year to read this back in the 80s. of and on off course but it instilled a love of all history and pre+ history that i have until this very day.
1:51:07 During the deliberations of the Spartans, whether to go to war or keep the peace, as professor Donald Kagan summarizes it: "- We've heard alot of fancy speeches here, and frankly, I didn't understand much of it. What I do understand is that we cannot let the Athenians kick us around. I VOTE FOR WAR!" "- YEAH!"
This is an AUDIO book, moron. Mispronounciations do ruin it - or, at least, for anyone who ACTUALLY, TRULY loves History and Literature. The only people who think it doesn't change a story are morons who, for some reason, think that incorrect language doesn't change the story. These people are, also, usually, morons who, themselves would mispronounce words. IT FUCKING MATTERS, YOU MILLENNIAL - OR, ACTUALLY, YOU'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE EVEN WORSE, EVEN MORE INANE, GEN Z MORONS. You are one of the many low-average idiots that are, steadily, dumbing down our world. Of course you don't think that SAYING THE CORRECT WORDS MATTERS; your I.Q. doesn't even reach Pet Rock status. SMH. If people don't fucking know how to read, PROPERLY, they need to stop volunteering to read books to which other people actually WANT to listen!
Please note that the pronunciation of some Greek names can be difficult, especially for those not use to speaking Greek (modern, biblical, or ancient) so, the name Thucydides is actually pronounced THo͞oˈsidədēz and not as the reader here pronounces that name.
I'm here because Nietzsche speaks very very high of Thucydides. I'm incredibly frustrated with the state of things. As the great philosopher also experienced. He says the cure from ALL Platonism is Thucydides. Or ,in the end, it's courage in the face of reality that distinguishes a man like Thucydides from Plato.
"Yet a faint heart will make all art powerless in the face of danger, for fear takes presence of mind and without valor art is useless. Against their superior experience set your superior daring" -Cleomnus
how does one volunteer to read ? i am old and do not have.much to do and have loved reading all my life and plan on reading until i go to the other side. hope to read over there to and if there are no books i wil pass and go somewhere else.
I suggest you look for material in public that has no copyright issues then practice on TH-cam. Make sure you include the title and part # of # info in your titles. Make your recordings public and about 1 hour long. You will get better with practice. Bonus point: figure out how to include a picture that relates to the book or include video of yourself reading. Lip readers will appreciate that!
there's a book service called Learning Ally that was called Books for the Blind and they need volunteer readers. they do all the new books coming out, including textbooks, so they always need help. The service is for anyone with a print disability: blindness, low vision, dyslexia, etc
Why is there no source for this work prior to the 10th c. Wouldn't Roman's of known of such a prolific author? Especially Nero or others. It's very intriguing how much relies upon this one text.
You must be confusing the actual surviving manuscripts with mentions of the book. Many ancient Greek and Roman authors certainly mentioned Thucydides' work.
After you've tried pulling your head out of your ass, try appreciating the fact that this guy is even making the effort at delivering this audiobook to the rest of us who manage to value the effort.
@William Shakespeare It’s unnecessary to debate these pronunciations. These are Greek names so the English pronunciations are incorrect anyways. A standard German pronunciation comes closer to the original pronunciation than the atrocious English ones.
Danish is the least articulate language in the world. Babies have difficulties learning to speak. And they taught the English english. And now the entire world suffers from this separation between written and spoken language. So next time, don't let yourselves be invaded by Vikings!
That's pretty ironic, given that (neo-)conservative policies have done so much to ruin the general welfare of most western states (and, thus, don't do what you seem to think they do, as per Pericles' speech: preserve the welfare of the state as the backbone of all individual welfare). Conservative social policies? Welcome to a world where fewer people are educated, more people are poor, and people who fall outside the mainstream have to fear for their rights all the time. Trickle-down economics? Total failure. Inequality continues to skyrocket, billionaires don't pay taxes, forests everywhere combust almost spontaneously. Trade protectionism? Gosh, yeah, the Trump administration really showed us how effective that is. Definitely not a hugely embarrassing relic from the 19th century. Hawkish foreign policy? Woo-wee, just ask the Taliban how that worked out. Conservatism sucks, and Pericles' speech doesn't offer any justification for it in a modern setting.
I appreciate the effort put into making this audiobook available. That said, this is clearly an amateurish effort. The amount of halts, hesitations, and mispronounced words greatly subtracts from the experience of listening to this classic. I'm sure this won't be a popular opinion, but you would expect that if someone was going to narrate one of the great classics of literature that they would at least familiarize themselves with the correct pronunciation of common names in that book.
How can you have not used a better sound/microphone set up before doing a whole book ? It is so amateurish and distracting it makes listening an unpleasant experience. And couldn't someone have told him how to pronounce Thucydides ?
Considering how this service is absolutely free and completely done by volunteers. Then yes how could they!!! Go get audible, librivox is a free service.
@@jmx5922 audible is for the unwashed masses and I doubt they offer unabridged Thucydides. You know- the ones who could stomach Brad Pitt playing Achilles in the movie Troy rather than read The Iliad :'(
Please note that the pronunciation of some Greek names can be difficult, especially for those not use to speaking Greek (modern, biblical, or ancient) so, the name Thucydides is actually pronounced THo͞oˈsidədēz and not as the reader here pronounces that name.
@@MrKbonez In fact brilliant work has been done by philologists at Cambridge - see W. Sidney Allen (1987): Vox Graeca: the pronunciation of Classical Greek, Cambridge: University Press, (3rd edition, ISBN 0-521-33555-8). The ancient system of accentuation is a first step. Greek grammarians wrote treatises on how to pronounce the Homeric texts.
Having studied both modern and ancient Greek, I'm entirely forgiving of anyone who struggles with pronunciation -- especially when I'm being read to for free. Love this!
Massive thanks to the volunteer readers - this is a gift to the world. A very, very, very long gift.
I for one appreciate the enormous effort involved and enjoyed the reading. What a selfless contribution. No one need miss out because they can't see or afford to buy this. Brilliant.
Ill start from my last listen. I'll add on as I go. Thank me later
Book 1
Chapter 2 31:15
Chapter 3 1:21:30
Chapter 4 1:54:43
Chapter 5 2:31:02
Book 2 (when the war begins)
Chapter 6 3:16:38
Chapter 7 4:18:57
Chapter 8 4:57:32
Ty for this freebie next week
THANK YOU
Chapters:
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00:31:15 - 02 - Book 1, ch. 02
01:21:04 - 03 - Book 1, ch. 03
01:54:19 - 04 - Book 1, ch. 04
02:30:35 - 05 - Book 1, ch. 05
03:16:14 - 06 - Book 2, ch. 06
04:18:57 - 07 - Book 2, ch. 07
04:57:13 - 08 - Book 2, ch. 08
05:50:37 - 09 - Book 3, ch. 09
06:50:44 - 10 - Book 3, ch. 10
07:35:25 - 11 - Book 3, ch. 11
08:07:55 - 12 - Book 4, ch. 12
08:53:25 - 13 - Book 4, ch. 13
09:28:24 - 14 - Book 4, ch. 14
You are a champian.
Bless you
4:35:49 Speech of Pericles to the despairing Athenians
6:29:22 Cleon's speech to execute the Mytilenes
9:38:50 Brasidas speech to win the support of the Acanthians
Echoing the words of others, thank you and others like you that volunteer time to produce such precious gifts. Thank you and God bless.
The world's first serious war correspondent.Amazing narrative.Thank you Thucydides,two and a half thousand years later!!
I can't even begin to describe how much I appreciate you for this
Thank you for up loading this and God bless the people who take time to read these books.
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Thanks so much for making this audiobook. Ancient history thanks you as do your listeners.
00:00:00 - 01 - Book 1, ch. 0100:31:15 - 02 - Book 1, ch. 0201:21:04 - 03 - Book 1, ch. 0301:54:19 - 04 - Book 1, ch. 0402:30:35 - 05 - Book 1, ch. 0503:16:14 - 06 - Book 2, ch. 0604:18:57 - 07 - Book 2, ch. 0704:57:13 - 08 - Book 2, ch. 0805:50:37 - 09 - Book 3, ch. 0906:50:44 - 10 - Book 3, ch. 1007:35:25 - 11 - Book 3, ch. 1108:07:55 - 12 - Book 4, ch. 1208:53:25 - 13 - Book 4, ch. 1309:28:24 - 14 - Book 4, ch. 14
00:00:00 - Book 1, ch. 01
00:31:15 - Book 1, ch. 02
01:21:04 - Book 1, ch. 03
01:54:19 - Book 1, ch. 04
02:30:35 - Book 1, ch. 05
03:16:14 - Book 2, ch. 06
04:18:57 - Book 2, ch. 07
04:57:13 - Book 2, ch. 08
05:50:37 - Book 3, ch. 09
06:50:44 - Book 3, ch. 10
07:35:25 - Book 3, ch. 11
08:07:55 - Book 4, ch. 12
08:53:25 - Book 4, ch. 13
09:28:24 - Book 4, ch. 14
An enjoyable, informative book with great narrators. Thanks to all.
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took me around a year to read this back in the 80s. of and on off course but it instilled a love of all history and pre+ history that i have until this very day.
Book 1 Chapter 1: 00:00:37
Book 1 Chapter 3: 01:31:37
book 2 Chapter 6: 03:16:41
"The retiring and unambitious are never secure without vigorous protectors at their side" - Pericles
1:51:07 During the deliberations of the Spartans, whether to go to war or keep the peace, as professor Donald Kagan summarizes it:
"- We've heard alot of fancy speeches here, and frankly, I didn't understand much of it. What I do understand is that we cannot let the Athenians kick us around. I VOTE FOR WAR!"
"- YEAH!"
Björn Larsson profs always comfort themselves by thinking the jocks are dumb. Hasn’t changed in thousands of years
Thank you, sir, for this wonderful recording.
Lots of whining about pronounciation and sound quality do not detract from the echos of our own history laid out by the original historian.
Ooooh....your comment gave me goosebumps. So eloquently and forthrightly said 👏👏👏 😉
Herodotus came before Thucydides- who was the 2nd great Historian
@@vibratoryuniverse308 Herodotus came first, but Thucydides is definitely the more "modern" historian of the two.
This is an AUDIO book, moron. Mispronounciations do ruin it - or, at least, for anyone who ACTUALLY, TRULY loves History and Literature. The only people who think it doesn't change a story are morons who, for some reason, think that incorrect language doesn't change the story. These people are, also, usually, morons who, themselves would mispronounce words. IT FUCKING MATTERS, YOU MILLENNIAL - OR, ACTUALLY, YOU'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE EVEN WORSE, EVEN MORE INANE, GEN Z MORONS.
You are one of the many low-average idiots that are, steadily, dumbing down our world. Of course you don't think that SAYING THE CORRECT WORDS MATTERS; your I.Q. doesn't even reach Pet Rock status. SMH.
If people don't fucking know how to read, PROPERLY, they need to stop volunteering to read books to which other people actually WANT to listen!
5:40:00 Something about the Scythian empire. It's middle west Russian territory today. Its story is told by Jordanes. "Origins and Deeds of the Goths"
Jordanes confused the Getae and Goths so his History is pretty much fable.
I appreciate the effort this guy went to but would dearly love to donate a pop filter.
Thucydides himself makes a cameo in Book 4, chapter 14 10:01:21
3:16:13....Start of book 2
thx
Good stuff. Thank you.
Please note that the pronunciation of some Greek names can be difficult, especially for those not use to speaking Greek (modern, biblical, or ancient) so, the name Thucydides is actually pronounced THo͞oˈsidədēz and not as the reader here pronounces that name.
I'm here because Nietzsche speaks very very high of Thucydides. I'm incredibly frustrated with the state of things. As the great philosopher also experienced. He says the cure from ALL Platonism is Thucydides. Or ,in the end, it's courage in the face of reality that distinguishes a man like Thucydides from Plato.
And Plutarch, in one of his essays, praises the heroes of Athens like Pericles and Cimon over orators and philosophers.
Man that back and fourth between the opposing Corcyrian and Corointhian dispatchments in Athens was intense
David C indeed! 👌👌
Timestamp?
Thar has always been one of my favorite arguements since i first read this back in 2000
Timestamp for this begins in book 1 chapter 3 1:21:46
!!!
1:15:11 begins section 61
"Yet a faint heart will make all art powerless in the face of danger, for fear takes presence of mind and without valor art is useless. Against their superior experience set your superior daring" -Cleomnus
how does one volunteer to read ? i am old and do not have.much to do and have loved reading all my life and plan on reading until i go to the other side. hope to read over there to and if there are no books i wil pass and go somewhere else.
Would be a good way to leave a little mark on the world. Your voice would always be out there for people to listen to
I'd suggest typing that question into Google. "How does one volunteer to read audio books?"
I suggest you look for material in public that has no copyright issues then practice on TH-cam. Make sure you include the title and part # of # info in your titles. Make your recordings public and about 1 hour long. You will get better with practice. Bonus point: figure out how to include a picture that relates to the book or include video of yourself reading. Lip readers will appreciate that!
there's a book service called Learning Ally that was called Books for the Blind and they need volunteer readers. they do all the new books coming out, including textbooks, so they always need help. The service is for anyone with a print disability: blindness, low vision, dyslexia, etc
This took more than a little effort. 🙏
Love history of all kinds,
@Snaggle Toothed two words, class rooms
31:01 chapter 2
Is there a copy translated to modern English
Awesome!
Victor Davis Hanson sent me here.
4:02 Funeral Speech.
4:20 Athens Plague
It's funny how the first and second versions are 21 hours long all together
I love how he struggles with the Greek names here and there.
Interesting stuff though.
thanx.....a girl who likes thuccydidies.....hubba hubba.
I had to look up "Thu-cyd-i-des" and a friend tells me, "Sometimes what you say sounds Greek to me."
Donald Edward lol
thou kee thee these
The cringe one receives from the mispronunciations keeps one focused.
It needs language captions including the original greek
1:00:00 1:23:00
Thanks
Isn't it better to do separate book videos? "Book 1" "Book 2" etc
th-cam.com/video/Rt8-GY8RZBU/w-d-xo.html
It isn't not hard to find...
Very well done. Thank you.
The audio is gone.
Why is there no source for this work prior to the 10th c. Wouldn't Roman's of known of such a prolific author? Especially Nero or others. It's very intriguing how much relies upon this one text.
You must be confusing the actual surviving manuscripts with mentions of the book. Many ancient Greek and Roman authors certainly mentioned Thucydides' work.
The way he pronounces the names pains me
After you've tried pulling your head out of your ass, try appreciating the fact that this guy is even making the effort at delivering this audiobook to the rest of us who manage to value the effort.
thoo-sih-die-dees
Really? We all can’t be linguists.
Dude this was years ago, I've grown, I don't care
@@iloveponies123ableI enjoyed the fact that I’ve seen this update on the day it was updated
3:18:00
Just record with a breath filter
Where's part two?
th-cam.com/video/Rt8-GY8RZBU/w-d-xo.html Part 2 continuing from book 5
@@evaweiss1160 thx
Fanastic read
Policrates = Pol-EE-krat-EEZ
Socrates = Sok-rat-EEZ
Aeschylus = Esk-uh-luss
Euripides = You-rip-uh-DEEZ
Her.e.cleez not her.cu.leez
Hercules.
@William Shakespeare It’s unnecessary to debate these pronunciations. These are Greek names so the English pronunciations are incorrect anyways. A standard German pronunciation comes closer to the original pronunciation than the atrocious English ones.
Danish is the least articulate language in the world. Babies have difficulties learning to speak. And they taught the English english. And now the entire world suffers from this separation between written and spoken language. So next time, don't let yourselves be invaded by Vikings!
@@bjorntorlarsson They were mostly Danes, some were Vikings. Viking means pirates.
Bookmark 31:59
This is objectively a really really bad recording, sucks that it’s the only one on TH-cam 😢
The guy's nasally voice makes me picture a highschooler reading this as some sort of literature project.
I feel like Toby from HR is reading this to me and I hate it.
What did Toby ever do to you?
Use HELLAS
This is why I am a Conservative 04:36:08
True this is the greatest political speech ever written. And it is a conservative ideology but not in the modern sense.
Cringe
That's pretty ironic, given that (neo-)conservative policies have done so much to ruin the general welfare of most western states (and, thus, don't do what you seem to think they do, as per Pericles' speech: preserve the welfare of the state as the backbone of all individual welfare).
Conservative social policies? Welcome to a world where fewer people are educated, more people are poor, and people who fall outside the mainstream have to fear for their rights all the time.
Trickle-down economics? Total failure. Inequality continues to skyrocket, billionaires don't pay taxes, forests everywhere combust almost spontaneously.
Trade protectionism? Gosh, yeah, the Trump administration really showed us how effective that is. Definitely not a hugely embarrassing relic from the 19th century.
Hawkish foreign policy? Woo-wee, just ask the Taliban how that worked out.
Conservatism sucks, and Pericles' speech doesn't offer any justification for it in a modern setting.
@@pantalaemon Ok Lenin
@@pantalaemon Elon musk has just made mince meat of your comment.
Thucky Dieds is rad !!!
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0:0:00
Good book but narrator is impossible to listen to. Damn virtual synthesis vocaloid
I appreciate the effort put into making this audiobook available.
That said, this is clearly an amateurish effort. The amount of halts, hesitations, and mispronounced words greatly subtracts from the experience of listening to this classic. I'm sure this won't be a popular opinion, but you would expect that if someone was going to narrate one of the great classics of literature that they would at least familiarize themselves with the correct pronunciation of common names in that book.
If you cannot even pronounce Thucydides correctly, there is NO WAY I’m going to listen to this.
Sorry, but "thyoo-see-dye-deez?" Nope.
fuc.u.plees
Reader has good voice but the microphone noise makes it unlistenable to me.
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The first reader is just bad and the quality of the recording sub-standard. I cannot recommend this, sad to say.
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How can you have not used a better sound/microphone set up before doing a whole book ? It is so amateurish and distracting it makes listening an unpleasant experience.
And couldn't someone have told him how to pronounce Thucydides ?
Considering how this service is absolutely free and completely done by volunteers. Then yes how could they!!! Go get audible, librivox is a free service.
@@jmx5922 audible is for the unwashed masses and I doubt they offer unabridged Thucydides. You know- the ones who could stomach Brad Pitt playing Achilles in the movie Troy rather than read The Iliad :'(
Librevox is free and voluntary, stop complaining about how its unprofessional when it's a public domain service.
@@urbanduck9934 That's right. Expect and accept junk because of the format. If the author hopes for views, it is in his interest to do a good job.
@@colleencupido5125 iv read the iliad and it's absolutely turd. The film is way better.
Young William Lopez Timothy Rodriguez Jeffrey
librivos SUCKS....you need PROFESSIONAL readers for such great works...
Please note that the pronunciation of some Greek names can be difficult, especially for those not use to speaking Greek (modern, biblical, or ancient) so, the name Thucydides is actually pronounced THo͞oˈsidədēz and not as the reader here pronounces that name.
How the fk does anyone know ancient Greek pronunciation? We're not even sure about Latin, how can we be sure of Greek?
@@MrKbonez In fact brilliant work has been done by philologists at Cambridge - see W. Sidney Allen (1987): Vox Graeca: the pronunciation of Classical Greek, Cambridge: University Press, (3rd edition, ISBN 0-521-33555-8). The ancient system of accentuation is a first step. Greek grammarians wrote treatises on how to pronounce the Homeric texts.
Having studied both modern and ancient Greek, I'm entirely forgiving of anyone who struggles with pronunciation -- especially when I'm being read to for free. Love this!