Oklo's Amazing Small Reactor That Can Reuse Nuclear Waste
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Jacob DeWitte is the Co-Founder and CEO of Oklo, a nuclear energy startup building small advanced reactors that can reuse spent fuel from conventional reactors. In this episode, DeWitte explains how the regulatory state has stymied new reactor designs for decades, and how he's working to break through and bring game-changing nuclear power technology to market. Shortly after the initial conversation was filmed, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) denied Oklo's application for its new small reactor design -- evidence of the persistent regulatory challenges. Stay tuned to the end of the episode where Jake rejoins the show to explain how Oklo plans to address the NRC's findings and continue the process toward final approval. [Joe's venture capital firm 8VC is an investor in Oklo.]
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00:00 Episode Intro
01:50 The Story of Oklo
10:47 The Aurora Powerhouse & new age of nuclear
13:20 Should people fear nuclear power?
20:34 Reusing nuclear waste
25:43 Optimism for the future; why Oklo is so exciting
30:17 New age of nuclear startups
34:05 Part 2: Jake responds to the NRC's decision
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Dear Joe Lonsdale,
I can tell you are excited. Just try not to interrupt/side-track your guest.
Interruptions unbearable.
I frankly dis not dislike that interrupting...it made everything rather an energetic and heated, interesting discussion. Boysh maybe, but interesting. But I do understand your point.
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let the guy talk!
Great interview! Nice to see, that people actually knowledgeable in nuclear physics understand that the benefits vastly outweigh the risks, and those can be managed to a level acceptable by contemporary standards.
Excellent also, how DeWitte is concentrating on fulfilling the regulatory requirements while sidestepping the guidelines in how to achieve this goal as they were written for older, more complex technology.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback! Hope you'll share the episode with your network :)
Amazing episode, thank you.
Thanks! Hope you'll share it :)
An example that stands out to me, "You can't land an orbital class booster! It's Impossible!"
Yep! Great point.
wow so cool. great episode!
Appreciate this informative interview, but why did I feel it was on 2X speed the whole time????
u have the power to slow it down yourself if need to.. watched it on 1.5x because have to cover tons of videos a day
Super cool, loved this interview. It seems everyone (including my 80yo father) is coming around to the idea that we need nuclear for a green future on this planet. I see a future where most of the western world is running on more decentralized power, from solar on your rooftop to local/town-level nuclear power, rather than massive multi-billion dollar power plants.
Thanks for watching! And glad to hear your dad agrees too 😃
Wow watching this and shocked at the end and now I'm mad at this NRC garbage. Regulation is going to kill this country.
Jacob says that mining equipment will be electrified. They don't need to. The amount of cheap nuclear power makes it economically to produce synthetic fuel. Even he has not realized the revolution we are headed toward. Great stuff!
Jacob is simply awesome!
We agree!
Once Oklo increases their reactor size, then their design could power heavy vehicle transportation charging infrastructure (e.g., truck stops)
I would love to invest in this
Great topic! Though not as sexy as the incredible tech itself, I was so heartened to hear this emphasis on addressing the key bottleneck to nuclear ... regulation ...and then I heard the end of the pod/update, and researched to further see the dubiously framed later rejection Jan 2023. The reality generally seems to be that gov/bureaucracy is inherently almost exclusively focused on risk avoidance and the short term, even purely optical/emotional risk, and minimally interested in innovation/progress/long term benefits. Few incentives exist otherwise. It appears Oklo is still currently working on overcoming this sisyphean regulatory choke point? Those efforts are much admired/appreciated! Innovations such as SMR's, (and the further investment/innovations that would come if the billions in regulatory risk are brought down to more reasonable levels), are likely the greatest near future springboard to human flourishing available, and uniquely feasible. So beneficial and so important! If some other country proves the only alternative, maybe that can be the example that wins societal minds/nudges the bureaucracy here at home. Rooting for you! Keep us updated!
Whoever thinks "electrification" must also think nuclear.
Interesting ending. Makes sense that there are countries deeply invested in fossil fuels, who would not want to see a new nuclear revolution.
Was there any discussion about using small reactors in shipping? I know many call for alternative fuels for use in shipping, but smaller, simpler and safer reactors would be predestined to revolutionise offshore shipping.
Great question. They didn't discuss it in this episode, but we imagine this small nuclear reactor tech could be used in myriad ways, including offshore shipping (especially since the U.S. Navy has been using nuclear-powered subs and aircraft carriers for decades). We'll look more into it!
Russia is already doing this in their North Pole region with nuclear powered container ships. And US aircraft carriers have been doing it for literal decades. So, I think it is safe to say that this idea is more than feasible. Just imagine all the millions of gallons of crude oil that will not be going out the vent stacks of all these container ships like they do now. How many lives would be saved by omitting this heavy pollution.
Good information. If i could offer a bit of constructive criticism; you might consider letting your guest talk a little more. I understand my impression may be a consequence of editing, but... It just seems like the interviewer is talking more than the interviewee. Not too bad - I just felt like i wanted to hear your guest finish his thoughts at several points.
Excellent video thank you!!! The age old problem. Solar price buy ten years worth of electricity up front. Wind 15 years of electricity up front. Nuclear 30 years of electricity up front and hope you get your money's worth!!!!
What do you guys think of the startup called radiant?
How much safer is fusion rather than fission?
Welp I'm as far Left and pro BRICS as you can get snd I'm uber pro on nuclear and super excited for Thorium. So they are in no means mutually exclusive.
Good info. I'll tune in again.
"American Optimist"? count me in bro
🙌 thanks!
Just make a reactor small enough to fit in a standard closet in a family home
The windmill companies should be required to provide 24 hour power. Let them buy power or use batteries to fulfil this need. The public will then see the true cost of intermittent power. We will also see these renewable power companies go out of business.
I'm live in have an Irish passport but it saddens me that the country of my birth will allow itself to fall behind. Regulation's are important but stopping a liquid fuel from melting ain't going to work.
He would be wise to book an interview with Vivek Ramaswamy
And that doesn't even say all the things that green energy destroys
NRC halting progress, wtf
It's a shame your channel is not more popular. Everyone wants to listen to political rage porn instead.
haha thanks. Hope you can help us spread the word.
Wooh, first comment!
And that's all you said?!?!?
This guy cuts him off so much
"reuse spent fuel" - use how? Are you going to reclad the fuel bundles? Overclad them? The devil IS in the details.
Unless the reactor has been damaged, the fuel bundles re still clad amd the cladding is probably usable. Of dourse "used" fuel is very Dose-y - Probably curium, mostly, and must be handled with care. With helium coolaNT AND BERYLLIUM REFLECTOR< they may work well and easily as a fast neutron reactor fuel. No reprocessing necessary.
take a can opener to them, chemically separate the uranium, transuranics/plutonium , recycle the titanium ect. dissolve the uranium238 in the blanket salt and the 235/trans/plut into the core salt as fuel , the uranium238/thorium mix in the blanket/sheild salt become u233/plutonium fuel to be constantly extracted with flourine gas then fed to the core , making the system very maintenence free and self fuelling ! the fission products are also very useful to make radisotopical batteries that will burn for decades, rtg type thermoelectric decay heat generators with similar lifespans of decades of full output, as well as many important medical isotopes and rare metals.
BHE
What about Chernobyl or Indian Creek ya I'd say that's not a good idea
Different reactor design. Your comments are not valid. Please consider updating your knowledge of the respective design(s).
@@shawnnoyes4620 whoever throws in Chernobyl in an educated discussion around nuclear power is not interested in having one.
By lower, albeit not unsafe(!) standards, even RBMK in the Chernobyl guise can be and has been operated safely for decades.
It seems not many people are ready to accept that, apart from that, RBMK now uses improved indication and control systems and most importantly a superior fuel mixture which brings down the void coefficient to near zero, making the reactor at least indifferent, if not self stabilising.
Of course, it wouldn't be wise to build new instances of RBMK, given newer technology available.
Whataboutism?
The Earth is cooler with the atmos/GHGs/albedo not warmer.
To perform as advertised the GHGs require “extra” energy upwelling from the surface radiating as a black body.
The kinetic heat transfer processes of the contiguous atmos molecules render that scenario impossible.
No greenhouse effect, no GHG warming, no man/CO2 driven climate change or Gorebal warming.
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#POW that’s exactly how Barack Obama got placed as president by the Chinese and Saudi using the name for the airport and hotel in Kabul as his wife so the way Kabul was set up to sponsor the foreign visa for a military on site was for female to female or male to male or male to female actually it wasn’t mailed to female, so Barack Obama would have done his United States visa and birth certificate from the state department using the same visa process as the military due to Afghanistan for Kabul and also the same visa process that Thailand uses for its Mahidol universityuse the embassy they use the United States Embassy which goes straight directly to the state Department for birth certificates and this is a nuclear reactor. #POW.