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  • MIT 15.S50 Poker Theory and Analysis, IAP 2015
    View the complete course: ocw.mit.edu/15-S50IAP15
    Instructor: Joel Fried
    Guest Joel Fried demonstrates the tools of the PokerTracker software in this lecture.
    License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA
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  • @DasNasenLP
    @DasNasenLP 9 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    why are we looking at his face and not the graphics the whole time?

    • @mitocw
      @mitocw  9 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      nasenhaare l The lecture notes are available on MIT OpenCourseWare at: ocw.mit.edu/15-S50IAP15

    • @ismaelhayden2916
      @ismaelhayden2916 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      That's why nerds run the world, don't bother rising to the obnoxious tone of the question, just supply an answer :)

    • @simplicitas5113
      @simplicitas5113 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ismaelhayden2916Obnoxious is a strong word. How else can you phrase it? We are not all so articulate!

    • @ismaelhayden2916
      @ismaelhayden2916 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simplicitas5113 it was 6 years ago I made the comment, I think it's more about grace and humility than being articulate, but if you know what point in the video it is I'll listen again.

    • @westongunningham7151
      @westongunningham7151 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ismaelhayden2916how has life changed for you since 6 years ago random youtube watcher

  • @gsxrveli
    @gsxrveli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    wish this lesson could be recorded again and show everything the speaker is pointing to, when he is going over the concepts

    • @rrresonance2
      @rrresonance2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can find the slide deck on the MIT website linked in the description!!

  • @gillianorley
    @gillianorley 9 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    So, basically, you've got to know when to hold 'em.
    Know when to fold 'em.
    Know when to walk away and know when to run.
    Got it.
    Do I get an A?

    • @wes_cab
      @wes_cab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Answer the provided problem sets with 90+% scoring!

    • @prakharnarang1898
      @prakharnarang1898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am the 70th like on your comment. Sorry Internet

  • @RyanNagy
    @RyanNagy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is one of the best overviews of PokerTracker that I have seen. And a good summation of what stats to use and ignore. Following along with the software on your computer open as well as with the slides really helps. Peace

  • @petrandreev2418
    @petrandreev2418 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    accorging to GTO we could have near qual decisions. but in real life, live opponents always have some tendentions how they away from optimal game. thats why you need information about your opponents as many as you could get.
    poker trackers, mining etc give many information about how far you could go into your exploit of field that you want exploit
    in general you need:
    1. opponent cluster, his prototype
    you could use different categories:
    joy players, passive fiches, maniaks, loose agressive players, tight aggresive players etc
    2. stat on opponents (mining , something similar with data base)
    usually we have only closed card with some hands that went to river.
    Poker is very interesting in behaviour analyse.
    Cause if you don't have enough statistic on your opponents you could take statistic of opponents of very similar to them, from their cetegory
    Something similar with: if you cant to ask scientist you could ask some of nearest to him and sometimes this could little predict him, esspecially if they from same school, or study with same teachers.
    In general poker tracker different soft could give many environment conclusions about similarity patterns of poker players, different poker schools, poker kartels, AI clusters, AI GTO users, players with assistance etc
    Actions, their branches, timing etc could be great in researching of AI and players behaviour
    like&comment this comment if you want to know more about this

  • @Luzwozen
    @Luzwozen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    great lesson, it was really helpful for me!

  • @robertk2311
    @robertk2311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    hey MIT, maybe next time your camera could show the screen that the lecturer is pointing to. And if you do, zoom in so the pertinent information (like numbers) can be read. just sayin

  • @bud3666
    @bud3666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    12:05 he said "vpip numver that was talked about last time". But last lecture he didn't joined and actually this video is first time he had lectured. What is wrong? Are some lectures missing?

  • @aionmisk6917
    @aionmisk6917 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wouldn't knowing who is over-folding the SB be significant in analyzing a walk? I didn't go to MIT but this seems important.

    • @goclbert
      @goclbert 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You wouldn't want that as part of the same data set which is what he's talking about. Some people may over or under defendtheir blinds, and that's a different statistic. Sure it's associated with general fold % but should be looked at separately

  • @rashadmahmood9235
    @rashadmahmood9235 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s useful information

  • @RyanMcbride90
    @RyanMcbride90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finally, I know where Ted ended up after HIMYM

  • @hidekitojo902
    @hidekitojo902 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    how does poker tracker help me buy a house in the bay area?

    • @michaelfulton1080
      @michaelfulton1080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Go to Vegas and put it all on poker

    • @Ionesco962
      @Ionesco962 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wenn Sie Geld für drei haben und bereits 2/3 des Geldes verspielt haben!

  • @TipoQueTocaelPiano
    @TipoQueTocaelPiano 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    When does the poker theory start?

    • @joshuamerrell2550
      @joshuamerrell2550 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Citriano Torres Between the first "course" that explained nothing and was hosted by someone I have never heard of, and this guy just explaining how to use a HUD, I have no idea.

    • @scottab140
      @scottab140 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Citriano Torres You will not hear or read any viable poker theory and strategies. What you read or hear is done in order to get you to play and lose to pros and the casinos.

    • @goclbert
      @goclbert 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      scottab140 that's just not true

  • @rashadmahmood9235
    @rashadmahmood9235 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks buddy

  • @SmartPhone-tv4qi
    @SmartPhone-tv4qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    first situation it's clear call QQ gives you approx 40 ev in this situations don't know about tournament but cash is call

  • @rcolucci09
    @rcolucci09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    zoom out next time! we have to see the board

  • @georgemikal7345
    @georgemikal7345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I'm Jed Mosley!"

  • @Sorin2120
    @Sorin2120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Title of this video should be changed to "How to Use Poker Tracker", as it contains no other information.

  • @michael2305
    @michael2305 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's good to speak very fast to have as much information possible in one session but on the other hand you want those people who haven't heard alot about that stuff to be able to process that information ... wich is kind of hard at that rate xD

  • @WahranRai
    @WahranRai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The cameraman must be fired !!!

  • @77solsken
    @77solsken 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It would be more appropriate to introduce poker terminology for those not familiar with "pre-flop", "big blind", etc.

    • @apoocumber4164
      @apoocumber4164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you go watch from the start of the classes

    • @simplicitas5113
      @simplicitas5113 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should know the game pretty well alrdy to be able to follow this at all. Same with any game. Chess strategy is lost on those who do not know the rules. Cuz chess is much harder actually you need to have played at least few hundred games to gain from any lecture.

    • @Yantingwolf-fb5ll
      @Yantingwolf-fb5ll 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simplicitas5113😢

  • @Scottjf8
    @Scottjf8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why does this dude look like he's in the witness protection program?

  • @prod.dylaancannon
    @prod.dylaancannon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically poker tracker is a pokedex.

  • @jonsnow6636
    @jonsnow6636 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This joel guy is actually just Ari Shaffirr in disguise

  • @andrewmaurer7193
    @andrewmaurer7193 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the 3rd video?

    • @mitocw
      @mitocw  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Andrew Maurer th-cam.com/video/LCoPLFaeq0U/w-d-xo.html

  • @upplsuckimcool16
    @upplsuckimcool16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play on ignition poker and my little dot is alll the way to the left in this graph. *feels scammed bro* 9:07

  • @dakus
    @dakus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shroud

  • @nathanjohnson3948
    @nathanjohnson3948 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Accident disliked but reliked immediately, ABSOLUTELY LOVE HE CONTENT I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT!!!!!

  • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
    @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:58 analyzing luck tho.. "im chasing draws like crazy, and i dont know if im getting lucky or playing appropriately. you know what? ima check if im a lucky bastard or not!"
    woah there, MIT says to not do that!

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      im sure he means something else

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      shut up baybuh, i know it. but ALL information is usable. and "knowing what happened last weak will not help you!" is false. if you get dealt aces 3 times in a row, either ur dealer is cheating or your NOT going to get aces again

    • @FelipeV3444
      @FelipeV3444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gambler's fallacy spotted. Having gotten delt AA 3 times in a row does not affect the probability of you getting AA next hand. It's still 1/200 or so...

    • @martin11334
      @martin11334 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FelipeV3444 and his very point was to do with checking how lucky you have got in the past to make sure that you haven't been letting the gambler's fallacy dictate your playstyle

    • @dustinblack2006
      @dustinblack2006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur It doesn't matter how many times you've been dealt aces in a row, the probability is still the same each hand. If you haven't been dealt aces for 500 hands, you aren't more likely to get aces next hand.

  • @pigdog126
    @pigdog126 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How long has MIT offered courses in poker? This sucks. I think poker is going to get a lot harder (un-beatable) very quickly.

    • @Kurtiskurtical
      @Kurtiskurtical 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't worry, it's not going to get ub-beatable at Hollywood Park in Los Angeles anytime soon!

  • @bjvandipohvak
    @bjvandipohvak 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    6:16 clear fold with kings? WTF!

  • @Fear-xw2dj
    @Fear-xw2dj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    guide to online poker. step 1 download player tracker step 2 let program do the work step 3 listen to program step 4 win ...just saved 200k in tuition

    • @FelipeV3444
      @FelipeV3444 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like to see you do that if it's that easy.

  • @RyBrown
    @RyBrown 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:42

  • @upplsuckimcool16
    @upplsuckimcool16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait,.... what the fuck happened in hero vs villain? Did the runner runner 2 pair win it???? He's in on 66% of the flops the villain is. It seems 50/50..... why did we not see the end of this hand lmfao!

  • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
    @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    these "students" paid a presumably hefty tuition, to sit through an hour long commercial. I would be infuriated.

    • @anon_handle
      @anon_handle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thinking the same thing

    • @lelanddyke8386
      @lelanddyke8386 ปีที่แล้ว

      and that perfectly centered Poland Springs(TM) water

  • @woodrowjr.7166
    @woodrowjr.7166 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a strong swimmer

  • @NoComplyHardware
    @NoComplyHardware 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's Ted Mosby!

    • @cansomer6433
      @cansomer6433 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought I was the only one to think that.

    • @theOceanMoon
      @theOceanMoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even I thought XD

  • @upplsuckimcool16
    @upplsuckimcool16 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL I been plying poker for no longer than a month and that first question was the most obvious fold I've ever seen in my month long poker life.

    • @Daniel-cr3wq
      @Daniel-cr3wq 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Wow you're so good

    • @upplsuckimcool16
      @upplsuckimcool16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Daniel-cr3wq I think you and 23 others missed my point.

    • @gregchamberlain5490
      @gregchamberlain5490 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and how are you doin now?

    • @upplsuckimcool16
      @upplsuckimcool16 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregchamberlain5490 i live in vegas grinding low stakes for a living....
      Crazy to see a post from 7 years ago like this ;D
      Hopefully i look back in 7 years from now and am able to say im grinding high stakes.

  • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
    @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    4:10 was screaming at my monitor (because im drunk) saying how you guys must not have a clue what ur talking about.. until i consider that im the idiot, and re-examine the hand.. and realize player has invested virtually NO money, and two people are already shoved all in.. which i didnt see before(because im so drunk). MIT, you guys.. man.. i take back what i yelled at you. and im going to apoligize to my monitor too.. you know, the monitor takes most of the blame for what the computer does anyways. thats it, ima treat my monitor with respect! well, nvmind.. it has a terrible aspect ratio. its a fucking PERFECT. SQUARE. COME ON!! WHY GOD WHY?!?! (im not religious, i only did it for the lulz) #NoOneWillReadThis #ImDeadInside

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      your cool to me, and i love you too man

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      awe thankx,you know that really means alot :'3

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      *WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!?*

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _BEAKFAST!_

    • @321seb
      @321seb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i know this is old but please talk with someone about feeling dead inside. you’ll be surprised how many suffer in silence, and they will often have common ground. i hope you’re doing better now

  • @mikefekade12
    @mikefekade12 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Even if you have kings...that's a fold" get this guy outta here

    • @-rw-r--r
      @-rw-r--r 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      payouts are like what? 30 40 60 or something? you know what AQ suited is good enough.

    • @willguggn2
      @willguggn2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +john smith
      No.
      Look up ICM.

    • @vp9214a
      @vp9214a 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +max hodges Dude, if you fold KK there, you are fuckin nuts. Also the situation is unrealistic to begin with. Chip leader pushes from UTG with three behind at the final table? When the fuck would that ever happen? He opens up with an actual raise, Villian 6 pushes. You then fold AQs, but KK? Get the fuck out of here.

    • @savdean9783
      @savdean9783 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In calculating EV, what was the used probability of winning supposing one player got KO and you were heads up with a 1:7 stack? If the lecturer used a 50/50 he is an idiot. Not enough information given to make an accurate decision yet, despite what was proposed by the lecturer.

    • @adrianpeirson5027
      @adrianpeirson5027 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thin he wanted to cash. I've folded aces to cash.

  • @murat_n
    @murat_n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys have to watch a how to make a video video before talking about poker theory.

  • @SmartPhone-tv4qi
    @SmartPhone-tv4qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    another bullshit about playing on small blind ofcourse it does matter who folded against you and of course it matters what you will do as there's another player after and your move will affect his decision

  • @davidbone3314
    @davidbone3314 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t like this kind of poker

  • @stuungar4034
    @stuungar4034 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    ZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzz

  • @deepthrux99
    @deepthrux99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nerd

  • @daniellugo4272
    @daniellugo4272 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    When they will make a roulette and lotto theory? LOL

    • @rossegDoesMC
      @rossegDoesMC 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is no theory to roulette and lotto. impossible to beat those games long term. However, in poker if you consistently make decisions that have positive expectation you will win money in the long run.

  • @godwatcher3372
    @godwatcher3372 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    tracking software should be illegal

    • @FelipeV3444
      @FelipeV3444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      shut up

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would be same as making alcohol or even pot illegal... Impossible to police

    • @r0nb0h0ju
      @r0nb0h0ju 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      pot is illegal most places, and is policed...

    • @yungtube7848
      @yungtube7848 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@r0nb0h0juand its still around in those places

  • @Seducier
    @Seducier 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    pseudo science?

    • @rossegDoesMC
      @rossegDoesMC 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no, math and game strategy

    • @FelipeV3444
      @FelipeV3444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, statistics and probability on a game of incomplete information.

  • @HDsharp
    @HDsharp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are these lecturers so boring?

  • @msr3937
    @msr3937 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stop saying um so much, try to pause instead

  • @ErnestHwang
    @ErnestHwang 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hasn't MIT heard of whiteboards? You guys are using chalkboards ffs?

    • @DanA-st2ed
      @DanA-st2ed 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Ernest Hwang _ Have you heard of MIT? Some of the greatest minds of this century have written on those boards ffs

    • @simplebob40
      @simplebob40 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chalkboards WORK !
      After the X time someone uses a non erasable pen on a whiteboard you'll wish for a chalkboard. AND chalkboards aren't as messy as whiteboards. If you get chalk somewhere - no problem. Those markers on the other hand.
      To sum it all up - whiteboards are for posers, chalkboards are for those who know better.

    • @adrianpeirson5027
      @adrianpeirson5027 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No I haven't :)

  • @camouflageproductions9650
    @camouflageproductions9650 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This poker class SUCKS and doesn't teach good POKER!

  • @TOYCH
    @TOYCH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For this course we'll need you to subscribe to poker tracker. Student: What's the cost? Professor's Assistant: It's only $79.99 for the duration of the course.

    • @Villaintrader12
      @Villaintrader12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re likely to have to purchase a $60+ book when you go to university for each one of the classes you take

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      they paid their tuition only to sit through and hour long commercial! lol college dummies at their finest