இராமர் 7000 வருடத்திற்கு முன் தான் பிறந்தாரா? விமர்சனங்களுக்கு பதிலளிக்கும் Jayasree Saranathan
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She is an atheistic, because she has given up what predecessor acaryas has told about Lord Rama, she thinks her research is far better. By this way she is unfit to be part of Sri Sampradaya. Similarly another person who is supporting this thought is also misleading people. Please hear Velukudi speaking on this, who is following parampara system.
@@gpnath1 well said !!
Frog in the pond can not swim in the sea. Jai Shri Ram .
Can they not find out the age of the Ramar Bridge using canon dating methods to ascertain the period ? Or is it impossible to do since it is under the sea ? I do not know the possibility but it could be one way to find out the age of Ramayana period .
Same doubt for me also
துஷ்யந்த் ஸீதர் ராமாயணம் புத்தகம் வாங்கிப் படிக்க ஆர்வமாய் இருந்தேன்.பல்வேறு ஆச்சார்யர்களின் கருத்துக்களை கேட்ட பிறகு அவர்கள் கூறுவது தான் உண்மை என்று தெளிந்தேன் , பல லட்சக்கணக்கான நட்சத்திரங்களின் ஒளி பயணம் செய்து பூமியை அடையவே எத்தனையோ லட்சம் ஒளி வருடங்கள் ஆகும். என்று விஞ்ஞானம் கூறுகிறது. இவர்கள். இவர்களின் அறிவை (lens) வைத்துக்கொண்டு இப் பிரபஞ்சத்தை கணிக்க முடியாது. இதே அறிவை வைத்துக்கொண்டு பிரபஞ்சம் எப்படி உருவானது என்று கண்டுபிடித்து கூற வேண்டும். ஆளாளுக்கு கிளம்பி விட்டார்கள். பிரும்மாண்ட புராணம் படிக்க வேண்டும். மத சம்பந்தப்பட்ட ஆச்சார்யாகள் பேசவேண்டிய விஷயம். ஆச்சார்யர்கள் பேசாமல் இருப்பதால் காளான்கள் போல புறப்பட்டு விட்டார்கள்.
காசு மிச்சம், அவன் புக்கெல்லாம் வாங்கி படிக்காதீங்க
@@ravikumardevarajulu7009 ராமாயணம் படிப்பது காலக்கணக்கீடு செய்யவா values அறிந்து கொள்ளவா? அர்த்தமில்லாமல் பேசுகிறீர்கள். இன்றைய இளைஞனுக்கு பல லட்சம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன் வாழ்ந்த ஒருவரை காட்டி அவர் போல் வாழு என்றால் அவன் இன்றைய நிலைமை வேறு என்று கூறிவிடுவான்.அவன் பள்ளியில் படிப்பது இன்றைய அறிவியல்.சற்றேனும் அவனுக்கு ஏற்புடையதாக இருத்தல் அவசியமே. இந்த ரங்கராஜன் இதை இப்படி கூப்பாடு போடாதிருந்தாலே காணாமல் போயிருக்கும். அந்த இருவரும் இந்தாளுக்கு நன்றி கூறினாலும் ஆச்சரியம் இல்லை. இவருக்கு வேணுமானால் வேளுக்குடியை கூப்பிடு,வேங்கடகிருஷ்ணனை கூப்பிடு,அவரை கேள்,இவரை கேள் என்பார்.இல்லாவிட்டால் எல்லோரையும் துச்சமாகத்தான் பேசுவார்.
துஷி ராமர் ரெட் ஒயின் ஸாப்டார்ன்னு சொல்ல்றானே
Absolutely...
@@ravikumardevarajulu7009 சரி விடு உனக்கு பதிலா நான் வாங்கறேன்.
ரங்கராஜன் நரசிம்மன் இவருடைய தவறை சுட்டிக்காட்டி விட்டார்
Not at all. She is absolutely correct.
how much knowledge do you have sir.she is just saying everything is wrong.tommrow somemone will say rama from europe or never exist
She has her right to convey her thoughts. She has done some research. She may not have to be right.
@@Babukrish-c7s she will proved wrong sooner.but the wrong information fflows to all and the correct will go to less. i got valid information to prove she is wrong and hope some acharya will do that. tommorow according to her may ram was bor n in Europe....when it is about roots this should be delt with care
ரங்கராஜன் ஒரு தென்கலை சன்டியர்
Rangarajan Narasimhan Rocked 🔥🔥 Jeyshri and Dushyanth shocked. This is absolutely absurd interviewing this lady. Ipo koopdunga bros namma Rangarajan ah ... With Hukum BGM🔥🔥. Because of these arguments I am doubting the credibility of Dushyant..
துஷி ராமர் ரெட் ஒயின் ஸாப்டார்ன்னு சொல்ல்றானே
Ranjarajan Narasimhan is a blind believer in his Acharyas. He does not know astrology . He does not quote primary evidence of any scriptures. He parrots his Acharyas. By no means is he scientific
ராமன் எப்போது பிறந்தான் எப்படி பிறந்தான் என்ற ஆராய்சியை விடுத்து
நம் முன்னோர்கள்சொன்னபடி
ஆச்சாரியர்கள்கூறியபடி
ராமனுடைய கல்யாணகுணங்களைபோற்ற வேண்டும்
She didn't tell you to not worship the qualities of RAM. Let her do her work. All important works are rejected by the master during their times. Later generations have appreciated many such works. Even world was considered as flat by great scholars but it proved wrong in later period. Ler her do the research.
@@r.subramanianr.subramanian7248 I don’t understand why people have to question her faith when all she says is only about timeline of events. Then we are not different from the Muslims who questioned the belief of ASI officer KK Mohammed who gave proof of Ram Mandir under the Babar Masjid. She is a historian and researcher and thats her job!
@@saksum15 She will not tell that, but rejecting predecessor acarya is a greatest sin, and she is encouraging such act which will not lead even the worshipper to the right destination, then what is the use of her saying whether worship of not worship, without following acaryas.
@@User01029 The modern history based on time line event is not the way one can argue. That is for faithless people to believe in some documents. We have to follow predecessor acaryas in this regards, if this madam thinks she is greater than them, then what can we do, every living entity is trying to get name and fame, they can get that by glorifying Lord in the way predecessor told, not denying that. This is not good for her and a great insult to sampradaya.
@@gpnath1 she didn’t debate on the philosophy or Dharmic part. The timeline and astronomical events mentioned in the scriptures are subject to research by any research scholar. And she has accurately matched that. For future generations to believe in the teachings and philosophies it’s important to establish the authenticity of the events! The reason why it was ridiculed by atheists and other religious followers was the inconceivable period that was mentioned. I believe Ramayana and Mahabharata as true events, hence Jayeshree Saranathan’s research and conclusions are more logical to me.
இன்றைய ஆராய்ச்சியாளர்களும், விஞ்ஞானிகளும் சொல்வதை நாளைய ஆராய்ச்சியாளனும், விஞ்ஞானியும் தவறு என நிரூபிக்க கூடும். நேற்றைய விஞ்ஞானி கூறியதை இன்றைய விஞ்ஞானி தவறு என நிரூபித்துள்ளான். எனவே விஞ்ஞானக் கண்டுபிடிப்பு இறுதியானது அல்ல. அறிவு விருத்தி ஆக ஆக ஆராய்ச்சியின் முடிவுகளும் மாறும். சந்திரனில் கால் வைத்ததே விவகாரமாகி இருக்கிறது. இதில் விஞ்ஞானிகள் சொல்வதெல்லாமே உண்மை என எப்படி ஏற்றுக் கொள்வது?
ஸ்லோக வ்யாக்யானங்கள் ல யும் முரண்பாடுகள் நிரூபிக்கப்படுதே அப்ப அதை இறுதியாக ஏற்க்க முடியாது னு சொல்லிடுங்களேன்
A similar question can also be raised with what is presented from the Vedanthis.
@@ts0hari Every proof was destroyed during mohammadiyan invasion. They destroyed our Universities, books and temples. They left no trace of our culture. Now we struggle to prove anything.
@@nagarajanappurao2147 until another Researcher comes and says it’s false, accept this view. No one has refuted her academically. So, her point stands. To your other question, Vedanta evolved with constant debates and questions. Otherwise we would have just Advaita. How Vishishtadvaita and Dvaita came?
@@User01029 Philosophies may evolve, but the incidents? Let us talk about what Ramayana says and how Rama was an example for mankind. Let's take the essence of Ramayana. What is the point of debating whether Rama wore pants or dhoti, chappal or shoe?
வால்மீகி இராமாயணம் படிக்க வேண்டும் .
When there are fossils of dinosaur that lived 225 million years ago .. why cant ramjanma bhoomi prevail over lakhs of years.
Are the pandyas only pandyas in world.. what evidence that there are no pandyas lakhs of years ago ..
Hardik Pandya also Tamil Pandya Mannan lineage :)
Precisely
Exactly
If we have a proof for what statement we believe they can be presented to the researcher and seek clarification.!
@@vsridharan51 spirituality is all about belief and experience.. our ancestors tell us that it's lakhs n crores of years before us proof enough.. how she's referring to books n verses for her proof, we too have book reference for same but just that we are not well versed in books .. there are pundits who are but am sure she will not argue with them .. moreover
Her belief that if lord ramas birth was lakhs of years before, temples will not stand as proof so seven thousand years is more practical is ridiculous.. when dinosaurs fossil have survived millions of years.. our god our lord ..his purpose of avatar is enough for it to remain for another one crore year and beyond kaliyuga ..until eternity.. it remains god willing and it will perish god willing only.
Looking at our ancient temple everybody is saying it's not humanly possible to build such temples with stone and labour and elephants but we know it's our ancestors .. with same pride we should believe rama birth as told by our ancestors and not morden science
Jayashri madam,
Rama Navami ( Shri Rama's birthday ) is being celebrated in the month of Chithirai April every year.
How did you arrive the date of birth of Rama to be in the month of Markazhi , Jan (some year BCE) - (as mentioned in the book by Dushyanth Sridhar written in consultation with you reg Date of birth of Rama) ?
Could you pls explain this anomaly ?
@@sridharsubramanian180
Before Ceaser 's period there were only 10 months and started with March. Only during the period of Augustus Caesar, it was converted to 12 months beginning from January. If you take this into account, it is possible that, the dob may change. We do celebrate
Ramnavami sometimes in March.
(Palguni Month)
@@raghunathansrinivasaraghav6455
Sir, pls compare an apple with an apple & orange with an orange. Dont compare an apple & an orange.
It takes 365 days (+ a few hours), for earth to revolve around the Sun making it a year.
If romans & gregorians followed 10 month calander in ancient times, then it is a faulty calander, we Indians need not be bothered & get confused with that.
Our Indian calander is based on positions of Sun (tamil / sanskrit) & moon (telugu).
That is why tamil calander has 12 months & telugu calander has 13 months (based on 27 stars of moon).
They are more scientific & in correlation with astronomy.
Why do you guys weigh gold (Indian calandar) with a Tin ( faulty Roman calander)
The narration that these people try to make and win over what is said in shastras is completely idiotic & mischieveous & nothing other than that.
@@sridharsubramanian180
You have indeed supported my version. Have you not seen.Sri Ramanavami celebrated in Panguni.
9 days after Panguni Amavasya.
If jan and feb are later additions, then my contention is reasonable, because March was the first month.
Even now, you could see Upakarma being performed on two different days in some years. Such occurences are usual.
Is there any proof about Narasimha jayanthi or Vamana jayanthi, which we are celebrating. In which Yuga and manvantara and Sanskrit year
( As per பஞ்சாங்கம்) they happened. It is a needless exercise by Rangarajan. Unnecessarily,
Rangarajan is bringing in people whom he knows will support him.
You call Sun a planet. But Science says it is a star. Whether the planet and star are one and the same. There could have been two objects with same name. Let us worship Ram and follow his path.
@@raghunathansrinivasaraghav6455
Sir, you have misunderstood my point & are making a delibrate but futile attempt to add my views to your credit.
Mr.Rangarajan Narasimhan is correct in his views.
The author Dushyanth Sridhar & his consult Jayashree Saranathan in one place laments about being rational in their view about birth date of Shri Ram ; and forgets that there are many instances in Ramayana is way beyond rational thinking. For eg how can a man have 10 heads (Ravana). How can a man with 10 heads sleep sideways. Is it all rational ?
You cannot say I have rationally arrived at DOB but Ravana has 10 heads. What is their intention - are they going to re-write Ramayana in their own 'rational' version.
True believers of Sanatana Dharma shall accept the Ithihasa puranas ( as documentary evidences / documented biography) the way it is said. There ends the matter.
Please note that I am in no way related to anyone, be it Mr.Rangarajan Narasimhahan or Dushyanth Sridhar or Jayashree madam.
All that I would say - It is never too late for Dushyanth Sridhar or Jayashree madam to accept the error and they recall / remove the controversial portions in their book.
By accepting ones own mistake a man never goes down, he is infact more revered / respected in scholar's society.
@@sridharsubramanian180true sir, but even after so many days they have not even uttered an apology is very depressing
எல்லாமே இந்தம்மா விளம்பரவிரும்பி மஹான் எல்லாம்சொ.ன்னத விட இவங்க பெ
ரியமஹானா 😊
மஹான்களும் இதையே சொல்லிருந்தால் ?😂 அது பிற்பாடு மாறியிருந்தால்!😂
Astrology even says that the position of stars and cosmic bodies gets repeated exactly in cycles....
Astronomy.
The 4 tasked elephant guarding Ravana’s palace was seen by Hanuman - modern science dates the extinction of this animal to 1.6 million years - Mrs Jayasree has conveniently avoided these important facts - all facts need to be given due imp before reaching a conclusion.
...four tusked elephant
ராமாயணம் 7000 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்னர் என்றால் மகாபாரதம் எத்தனை ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்னால் நிகழ்ந்தது?
Vitta nethi dan mudinjichu nu kooda solvanga
She says around 2000 years after ramayana. Though she says scientifically, I am still unable to accept what she says. Also these kind of things has to be discussed keeping her and aacharyar or some reputed scholars like Velukkudi Krishnan etc. Instead interviewing her separately and Mr. Rangarajan Narasimhan separately is only going to create more conflict and so called leftists will start mocking Hinduism. This is unwanted interview.let them call everyone for a debate and have a healthy conversation and make things clear to us. But again those debates will be mocked by anti Hindus.
@@sowmyaramanujam87…true…well said…
@@sowmyaramanujam87she refused to come for the debate. PTP arranged and I accepted but the lady backed off
@OurTemples that's totally unfair. When she is sure that she is right, why doesn't she has guts to come for a debate? Whatever it may be, these kind of confusions are going to create a way to others to mock us more. Kali kaalam nu soldradhu seriyaa dhaan irukku
the anchor dont have much detailed knowledge.the time what they are saying can repeat several past times..
Hello sir 👋
Better to discuss with all spiritual heads and declare the truth.
Unnecessarily there should not be conflict among the spiritual leaders.
Mam giving some evidences. Its upto the people either to follow literature or to folloe history. Both ways Ram lived and can be worshipped.
Thanks Pesu Thamizha Pesu Team for this interview with Jayashree Saranathan Mam. However, I am extremely confused now regarding the Hindu Timeline. Anyways, I believe in Lord Vishnu and my devotion to Him is more important than anything else. Thanks.
No confusion. Rishis don’t lie and Jayesree Mam’s collection is not false. So it’s very much proves that time is relative . It changes based on the expansion of the universe
Yeah ...him❤
its collections are wrong..what veda and Upanishads calculations for every yuga is the correct one
@@seetharaman9307 Ok. Jai SrimanNarayana.
@@seetharaman9307 then how does her calculations and the events mentioned in Mahabharata and Ramayana are coinciding? If you accept the concept of expanding universe theory after big bang , both are right.
ராமர் திரேதாயுகத்தில் பிறந்தவர் இடையே 8 லட்சம் ஆண்டுகள் துவாபர யுகம் உண்டு
அந்த யுகக்கணக்குகள் ல யே முரண்பாடு உண்டு.
@@-_.0O லூசு, ௮மெரிக்காவின் நேரம்
இந்தியாவில் இல்லை.
@@-_.0Oயுகக் கணக்குகளில் முரண்பாடுகளே கிடையாது. சும்மா அடிச்சு விடக் கூடாது
@@MukundanRaman ஆதாரம் வேணும்னா தைர்யமா கேளுங்களேன்
@@-_.0O சரி குடுங்க
What's the name of the book and where can we buy it
உங்கள் தாத்தா பாட்டி எப்போது பிறந்தார்கள் அந்த தேதி தெரியுமா. பூட்டன் அவர் மனைவி பெயர் தெரியுமா உங்கள் குடும்பத்தை பற்றியே முழுமையாக தெரியாத போது இராமரை பற்றிய ஆராய்ச்சி என்பது உங்களை வெளிப்படுத்தி கொள்வதற்காகா நீங்கள் செய்யும் வியாபாரம் என்பது தெளிவாக தெரிகிறது புத்தகம் விற்க வேண்டும் என்பதற்காக இப்படி சொல்கிறீர்கள். கண்டங்கள் பிரிந்த காலத்தையும் யுகங்கள் காலத்தையும் ஒப்பிட்டு பாருங்கள் புரியும் (200 ரூபாய் வாங்கி) இப்படி பேசுகிறீர்கள்
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பதில்:- அவங்க பூட்டனை பத்தி ஆதி காவ்யம் எழுதிருந்தா அதையும் நிரூபிக்கலாம்.
59:00 Kishore waking up from sleep 😅
Big bang😅😢😅 its not true
Let madam present her case and evidence . Why does Rangarajan Narasimhan thinks like the Ayatollah who orders fatwa on any one who does not agree with him! Let people say their opinion. Debate with dignity. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Very. Beautiful naming.
Rangarajan is Ayothulla's reincarnation. Misogynist.
Iwas very much worried.,because this is between Asthikas and Asthikas..Jayshree,very confidently explained her findings. Congrats Jai. !!!all the best.❤
ஆசாரியர்களை விட ஆராச்சியாளர்கள் விவேகிகள் அல்ல
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Not exactly. Even 1 acharya contradicts another Acharya! So which Acharya you believe?
உண்மை
@@User01029ஆராய்ச்சி யாளர்களிடமும் முரண்பாடு கள் உண்டு இம்மாதிரி விஷயங்கள் ஆசாரியர் களை தான் ஏற்க வேண்டும்
இவர் ஆசாரியர்கள் ஐ அவமதிக்க இல்லையே. அவர் ஆராய்ச்சியை விவரமாக சொல்லி இருக்கிறார். இவரின் அளவு கோல் வேறு என்றும் வேதத்தில் சொன்ன அளவு கோலும் வேறு !
According to yoga vashista , Kakabhushundi has witnessed Rama avatara 11 times. This may be a reference to Time cycles? Yugas might also be another way of describing time cycles. In that case it is possible that the latest occurance of Ram avatar is 7000 years ago while the earliest may be a few million years ago.
@@koushikmc278 tharkuri than v2.0 ..
SUPERB COVERAGE.👌
Outstanding Madam
Unnecessary Research What for.? what are they going to Achief?
So far, the tales of Ramayana and Mahabharatha are not included in curriculum of both Schools and Colleges and as a subject in History or as a Subject as Kavya in Sanskrit. But the derivative kavyas like Raghuvamsam, megha sandesam by Kalidasa or Kiraththaarjuneeyam or Uttararama charitham are included. If originals are banished as Myths, how come the derivatives find a place in syllabus. The original should also be taught from School level. For getting it included, some steps are to be taken and that is what Dushyant and Jayashree are taking .
This man Rangarajan is a rabble rouser and a mischief monger.
ராமர் 14 வருடம் வனவாசம் போனாரா இல்லை 14 நாட்களா 😢😢
Dasaradhar ta viswamithrar Ramana katuku vara soli kupudumbodh Avan balagan 16 vayasudha agudhunu sonaru apa 16 natkala ennagada idhu
wow wow wow wow what a knowledge finally a pakka clarification about yugas and ramayana timeline thank you mam
Please read Aryabhatiayam of Aryabhata. The above speaker has not read.
This is wrong explanation by her. Please hear the other side as well and then take a decision.
@@srmelmango ohhh okay I can understand guys.... Appo edhu dhan unmayaana time line please explain
@@santhoshsakthi7164 Hello, saw your comment just now. Sorry for the delayed response. It's a huge topic but will try my best to keep it simple. Will give references for further exploration.
In Vedantha, there are 3 types of evidence:
1. Prathyaksha Pramaanaa - that which can be directly perceived via the 5 senses
2. Anumaana Pramaanaa - that which can be inferred [if there is smoke then there must be fire type of thing]
3. Shabdha [sacred sounds] Pramaanaa - that which cannot be perceived via senses or inference and can be known only through Veda / Vedanthas and their associated sacred texts called UpaBrahmanas [like Smrithis, Ithihasas, Puranas, etc. which were authored by Aapthaas i.e. pure-hearted, noble Elders who cared only about the welfare of our Jivathma]
Modern science and historical research go only by Prathyaksha and Anumaana. Nothing wrong as Prathyaksha and Anumaana are accepted types of evidence. However, they will not consider Shabdha Pramaanaa as valid evidence. When you start using Prathyaksha Pramaanaa and Anumaana Pramaanaa to measure or understand something that can be measured or understsood only via Shabdha Pramaana then you will surely end up getting wrong results. That's exactly what's happening in this historical research of Sri Rama's birth.
When Ithihasas say 11000 years or 1 crore years ago, we have to take it literally as Maharishi Vachanam clearly says so. Smt JS is trying to prove that Maharishi Valmiki and Maharishi Veda Vyasa did not literally mean 11000 and lakhs of years. She is trying to give interpretations that they meant something else when they uttered those numbers. However, this is not correct. No Acharya of any Sampradaya has said so. They all interpreted the years at face value only. Nothing like "Divya Yuga" and "Dharma Yuga" exist.
Also, there are shlokas in Srimad Bhagavatham and Sri Vishnu Puranam that clearly say how average heights of people, plants, animals got reduced when each Yuga started. Ref: Sri Muchukunda blessed by Sri Krishna Paramathma, Revathi Balarama Vivaham.
So, Yugas indeed span for lakhs of years. We also have our version of how basic creation is done by Parabrahmam [called Samashti Srushti] and then the additional creation task is assigned to Brahma Deva [called Vyashti Srushti]. Ice Age and such are not applicable for us.
Hence, the arguments between both sides. 😀
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
She should have presented this and get approval before coming public
Approval from who?
, Appreciate Interviewers patience ,
Namagiri thayar =jayasree 😂😂😂 how nasty this lady to claim like this🤣🤣🤣🤣
Vaivasvaths Manvantara will coincide with breakup of Gondwana and movement of Indian subcontinent. Middle Jurassic Period.
Commaon man or woman think and do research on incidents for the reasons best known to them Great man think of values in Life.
I do not mind when HE was born I want and try to follow his principles in life. I the Athma .want HIS blessings to achieve the goal set .
I need such type of knowledge and pray for HIS blessings .
Viracocha was worshipped by inca civilization. And they used to mummify the dead. I wonder if there is some connection between Viracocha and Virochanan.
True...Her findings are amazing. This South American( Andes - Peru) details are correct.
What a vast knowledge.
Koti koti namaskaram Manye
Excellent 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
For thecommon man Ram bakhti matters.All this academic exercise hardly touches him
True.we don't care when he was born or how long he ruled us.we shd strive to live like Rama.
@@vijayalakshmibalasubramani3154 let her do her work. If u dont like, u can opt not to watch her videos
மேடம் வணக்கம்.
அனைத்து ஆசார்யர்கள் மற்றும் உங்களைப் போல் உபன்யாசம் செய்பவர்கள் அனைவரும் உங்கள் ராமர் பிறந்த நாளை ஏற்க மறுத்து விட்டனர். நீங்கள் தயவுசெய்து our temple our pride என்ற திரு
ரங்கராஜன் நரசிம்மர் யூடியூப் சேவைப் பாருங்கள்.
Expecting your favorable course correction on birth date.
Thank you.
Doesnt matter. They are referring text books written by aachariyars whereas she is referring to astronomical logic.
இவளுக்கு என்ன மரியாதை
அவர் துஷ்யந்தனை அழிக்க படை திறட்டி கொன்டிருக்கிறார்
ரங்கராஜன் சமுத்திரம் கடந்து பிழைப்பு நடத்திவிட்டு சனாதன த்தை கக்கி. விட்டு மீண்டும் கக்கியது நக்குகிறார்
ரங்கராஜன் வயிற்று பிழைப்புக்காக சனாதன த்தை விட்டு விட்டு கிறிஸ்தவ னிடம் அடிமையாக வாழ்ந்தவர் இப்போது அவர் கக்கியதை அவரே நக்குகிறார்
I respect Vedanthis, but their response to Dushyanth Sridhar and Jayasree are only confrontational and not convincing. All of us should stay civil until some wise head from Vedanthic group comes up with a convincing answer. The onus is on them and not with conetemporary Sanatanis.
She is a historian and has tried to research a subject and put forward her views. Kudos to madam. You might accept it or leave it - is upto the individual. Poor lady getting so much of stick for her painstaking efforts.
You are my dhivyam 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Vijay Kumar, she is a research scholar, don't be foolish and you are very brilliant than her speech.
இந்துமதம் மட்டுமே எவன் எதை வேண்டுமானாலும் பேசலாம்... மற்ற மதங்களை ஆராய்ச்சி என்ற பெயரில் எவனாவது பேச இயலுமா????
இந்து மதம் மட்டுமே அறிவியல் பூர்வமான மதம் . மற்ற மதங்கள் எல்லாம் , தனிமனித கற்பனைகள் தான் .
இவங்க பேசுவது அறிவியல் என்று எந்த அறிவியல் தெரிந்தவன் உம் solla மாட்டான்...😂😂😂
Ok. Parasuramar comes in both ramayana and mahabharatha. Does that mean he lived for 2000 years ?
He is considered like Hanuman as a chiranjeevi.
@@CommentsKattappa We read in puranas people lived thousands of years. But one siders says 'There were 8 Lakh years and plus Gap between Ramayana and Mahabharata. That means Sri Parasurama lived for lakhs of years. Had seen two Yuga ends!!!!
Madam jayasree do you agree with dushyanth that astrology is meant only for conducting yagna and not for any other purposes. His videos are available.
What is destined will happen.
யத் யத் பவ்யம் பவது
பூர்வ கர்மானுரூபம்
The pariharam or pirayachitham may shape your mind to bear with the happenings. That is all.
It is like cause and effect.
Highly learned scholars will say pray to Lord, he will mitigate your suffering.
Please do not confuse between Astronomy and Astrology.
JyotiSha is Astronomy or Siddhanta. The hora branch of JyotiSha is what is called Astrology today. Without JyotiSha Siddhanta knowledge, JyotiSha hora is never accurate.
@lakshmiv1662 I don't confuse. But Jayasree is an astrologer and not an astronomer to talk on this subject.
Madam. Once this 7000 years become ,Lakhs of years in future. So why can't we believe past Lakhs of years before. Then when this astrology formed. During the gods period no astrology was there. Also ,appreciate your research. This sibject is very very debatable and confusable. Sometime you may be true while think about the years. Good.
Very much possible. How are days and years decided ? Based on earth’s distance from Sun and the rotation and revolutions. If earth’s distance from Sun is short, days and years are shorter and if the earth goes farther away from Sun, time gets longer. Our galaxy is expanding and so this current year cannot be compared to those told on the Puranas.
She is claiming that, she calculated this based on astrology. I kindly invide great astrologers in our country to intervene and comment. Why weren't chances that the planetory positions repeats in several dates cyclically? She can't prove the exact date based on jadaga kattam as the planetory positions are cyclic and changes every day...
If one has philosophical doubt and need good knowledge on Ramayan one should follow - Dr. Ranganji whereas if one needs good clarity on the time - Dr. Jayashree Saranathan Ji is the best.
Great scientific explanation mam! I am great fan of Velukkudi Krishnan . I accept the Vedic Dharma and philosophies that he preaches but I accept the scientific reason you have ! 👍
so do you follow the sankalpam calendar or english calendar
I am fan of all vedic speakers like Shri Velukudi krishnan, Shri APN swami and others. These speakers are speaking about the philosophical side of the subject and give quotations from scriptures and what they have been told by acharyas. Mr. Rengarajan Narasimhan started this controversy through nasty/dirty mudslinging - which is his style. For this context, such an approach is not welcome and doesnt give a good opinion on his motivation about the subject.
I firmly believe what madam is telling ... if Rama avtar had happened 170 million years ago, He would have co-habited with dinosaurs whereas it would be difficult to justify existence of human beings while birds were making their appearances in the earth.
While madam is giving the scientific end of the fact, others are on the philosophical side. Both are important and should co-exist.
@@seetharaman9307 does the Sankalpam calendar give you the exact numbers of numbers? It only gives you the name of the yuga, kalpa and manvantara. That could relate to any year!
@@curdrice70 totally agree with this. Just to add to this. Time is not constant. It’s relative. Both science and the Rishis say this. Science says that earth’s distance from the sun determines the day and year. If earth is closer to Sun, days and years are shorter like Mercury and Venus. If earth moves away from Sun, days and years become longer. Scientific evidence clearly shows that this galaxy keeps expanding after the Big Bang! So years given by rishis in lakhs should not be equated with current year. Both the rishis and Jayeshree mam are right since the astronomical events indicated by Rishi and Jayeshree are matching exactly. Therefore, logical conclusion could be the that 1 year now could be 1000 years then. So Ram might have lived for 110 years (present time) or 11000 years (Valmiki’s time). This depends on the distance of the earth from sun .
ஔவையார் ஒருவர் மட்டுமே அல்ல....என்றும் ஆய்வாளர்கள் என்பவர்களில் சிலரது கூற்றாக உள்ளது...
@@thothathrir8909 ஆமா நிரைய தோத்தாத்ரி ஆனா நல்லா புடுங்கின தோத்தாத்ரி ஒருத்தன் தான்
As per the Achariyargal, Lord RAM ruled for 11000 years. After 11000 years he has
relinquished the kingdom. Handed over the rule to his sons Lava and Kusa and took Jala Samadhi in front of all.
If this true then Lava and Kusa could also lived for 11000+ years? Not true.
To get the answer , we need to refer Mahabharatam
“ahorātraṃ mahārāja tulyaṃ saṃvatsareṃa hi”
Mahabharata, verse 3-49-21
Means, If a King lives in accordance with dharma there a day is equivalent to a year.
11000/365 is equivalent to 30 years and 2 months(around).
So Lord RAM ruled for 30 years and 2 months then relinquished his kingdom.
Like this many details are provided by ancestors in a different way to hide facts. They don't want to feed you. Rather they wants us to explore through our knowledge. She has done a good research. Kudos!!!!
Beautiful. Let Rangarajan reply to this.
What eternal Vedas declare are eternal truths applicable to all yugas.' Satamaanam bhavati sataayu: purusha:' ('வேத நூல் பிராயம் நூறு மனிசர்தாம் புகுவரேலும்....' - திவ்ய பிரபந்தம்). So here 1000 indicates an auspicious word added to imply the greatness / importance of that period. 11 plus years (for eg. 11 years 3 months) might have been mentioned just like we in present days use in Tamil dialect as பதினோரு சொச்சம் ஆண்டுகள்.
The important qualifying factor is : “as per the knowledge today” we are calculating. But why would Valmiki write 11,000 years if that was not true. If that’s the case then instead of 14 years of exile, he could have said 5000 years exile. This cannot be solved unless Valmiki himself comes to resolve it. But for me I prefer the date of lakhs of year. Anyways after listening to entire video nowhere she gives proof from primary source. Ma has only said that names and their lineage from Ramayana appear in our recent times as well. Its not necessary that Parasurama remains be destroyed if it was lakhs of years, why should Rama sethu be destroyed if it was lakhs of years considering the gods are capable of doing amazing miracles, also how was the knowledge of brahmaAstra and other astras be completely lost in 2000 years I.e by 1000 BC. Overall I don’t feel comfortable accepting both Mahabharata or Ramayana to have occurred in past 10000 years. Most of this should have occurred in some previous cycle of precession of equinox ie atleast 25000 years ago.
Simple answer, bend the time axis or contract the galaxy distance. Both Valmiki and Jayesree will be right
I feel she is influenced by the abrahamic sects. Sad. She has interpreted scriptures in her own ways perspective and is not backed by any poorvacaryas
She is very clear.She has answered almost sll the objections from her standpoint which has logic.She is explaining her point from Ramayana and Mahabharata itself.I am a Sanadana Dharmi.She had done her part very well.
So?
@@Uyou-op7ec totally agree 👍 her claims are based on astronomical calculations and references given by rishis. She is not contradicting the Rishis anywhere. It’s only the way people interpret these verses that end up screwing them
If the other side want to prove her wrong, let them prove it with proof and evidence as she has done. That was the way debate was decided right or wrong in the ancient days.
Very good scientific rational defence. People should logically argue like this.
Divya yugam and dharma yugam differentiated very well.
Super madam. Jai Sri Ram
Madam sri ramanujar piranthu 5000 yrs b4 2000yr thana ramar piranthar.?
@komalamadhavan8079 Sri Ramanujar pirandhadhu 1017. This is 2024. So, approximately 1000 years he was born. And not 5000 years ago
The mentioned grahas will align in that order in future as well, then can we say SriRamar will be born in future?
Sri Andal thayar mentioned "velli ezhundhu viyazhan urangitru" we may face similer occurrence in future once or multiple times can we consider it as andal period ?
While Being young (non brahmin, non vaishnavate) around 26 to 28 yr old, during my search and thirst for who is paramathma, This much of longer period astonishing and strengthen Ramayana , Sri Vaishnavam and dharma unlike the guest mentions "yarunga nambuvanga" ?
❤super ❤
Excellent analysis. Tq.
You are wrong absolutely
Chitrai masam aprililthan varum epdi januaryil varum
Amma do not mis interpret .If we are not competent go beyond certain limits .That does not mean that is the end of it
It is just like Dolton atomic theory which has been proved wrong subsequently .If we are not able to trace beyond a certain time that is not an end of it .Please do not misguide people based on Software .
Excellent point
She is right. Based on the Big Bang theory and the stretching of the galaxy, 1 lakh years could be equal to 1 month as of now
@@santhanamsrinivasan8540 இங்கு காலகணக்கீடு குறித்துத்தான் interpretation வித்யாசப்படுகிறது.ராமாயண சாரம் விவாதிக்கப்படவில்லை. அப்படி நடந்தவைகளையே அறிஞர் உலகம் அனுமதித்துள்ளது. (ஏற்காமல் இருக்கலாம்) இதுவோ அறிவியலுக்குள்ளும் வரக்கூடிய subject. இதுபற்றிய ஆராய்சி செய்ய விரும்புவோர் செய்து கொள்ளட்டுமே. அவரவர் கணக்கு அவரவர்கு. சாரத்தை விட்டு சக்கையை பிடித்து தொங்குவது ஏனோ?
It's not blind software boss.
The calculation on that software can be done by hand as well. It's just a productivity enhancement tool like a calculator. Do you know what software she is using?!
அவரவர்களின் மனதில் ஏற்படும் ஒரு கற்பனையை தவிர இதை அனைத்தும் எவராலும் இப்படித்தான் நடந்தது இருந்தது என கூற முடியாது இப்ப இருக்கின்ற மாய மனிதர்களால் 🌳🧘
இந்த மாதிரி கற்பனை விவாதம் செய்வதை விட
அந்த பகவானை எப்படி எல்லாம் அடைய வேண்டும் என்று பெரிய பெரிய சுவாமிகள் ராமாயணத்தை வெவ்வேறு கருத்துக்களில் தெளிவாக உபசரித்து இருக்கின்றார்கள் நன்கு தெரிந்து தெளிந்து கடைப்பிடித்து வாழ்ந்தால் வாழ்க்கை மேன்மையாகும் என்பதே உண்மை ஆகும் 🌳🧘🦅🐍✴️🏹💪🙏
இந்த மாதிரி பேசும் நபர்களின் பேச்சையும் இந்த மாதிரி பதிவுகளை பதிவிடும் சேனல்களையும் பார்க்க வேண்டிய அவசியமற்றது .
ஹரி ஓம் ✴️🧘
இவர்களின் இந்த கூற்று திருப்திகரமாக இல்லை என்பது எனது கருத்து.
ரங்கராஜன் நரசிம்மன் is totally wrong, plus he has big emotional imbalance, due to which he get angry and looses. Even if you convey any point against his thoughts he will start abusing.
He is a narcist.selfish arrogant.
உடலில் உயிர் எங்குள்ளது என விஞ்ஞானம் கூற முடியுமா..
நாம் சாப்பிடும் உணவு ஏழு தாதுக்களாக மாறும் நிகழ்வு எஞ்ஞனம்..
சுக்கிலம் மற்றும் சுரோணிதம் சிறு துளி இணைந்தால் ஓர் உயிராக உருவமாக மாறுவது எஞ்ஞனம்..
புத்தி, மனம், அறிவு எங்குள்ளன
விஞ்ஞான ரீதியாக விளக்கம் கூறுங்கள் ஆராய்ச்சியாளர்களே..
வாழ்க வளமுடன்
எல்லாம் எல்லா இடத்திலும் உள்ளது ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
எல்லாம் சரி. இவையெல்லாம் அவர் அவரின் கருத்து என கொள்ளாமல் ஏன் ஒருவரை ஒருவர் தாக்கி பேச வேண்டும்.
ஏற்கனவே பல பிரிவுகள் பல கொள்கைகள். நம்மை அழிக்க நினைப்பவர்களுக்கு சந்தர்பமாகிவிடும்.
அறிவாளிகள் தர்க்கம் செய்யலாம் அதில் தவறு ஏதும் கிடையாது.......... அது தான் சனாதன தர்மத்தின் சிறப்பு............... இது எல்லா காலத்திலும் உண்டு இன்றும் உண்டு...........
@@theman6096 தர்கம் செய்வது வேறு குற்றம்குறை கூறி அவமதிப்பது வேறு.ரங்கராஜன் நரசிம்மன் செய்வது இரண்டாம் ரகம்.
@@kalab2557ரங்கராஜன் தென்கலை அடியாள்
@@kalab2557ரங்கராஜன் பிழைப்புக்காக சனாதன தர்மத்தை கடந்து வாழ்ந்தவர் அவர் தான் கக்கிவிட்ட சனாதன த்தை மீண்டும் நக்குகிறார்
ரொம்ப தவறான அணுகுமுறை
Lets conclude this subject in simple way. Why take long route? Just arrange a debate with dushyant and his guru karunakaran swami
No arrange a debate between Dushyanth and Rangarajan.
ஓடிப் போய் ஒளிந்து கொள்வான் ரங்கராஜன்.
@raghunathansrinivasaraghav6455 what I am asking and what you are telling? Ithukku per kudarkkam
@@peerni538 இல்லை. இந்த விவாதத்தை ஆரம்பித்தது ரங்கராஜன். தேவை இல்லாமல் கட்சி சேர்த்துக் கொண்டு துஷ்யந்த் மற்றும் ஜெயஶ்ரீ இருவரையும் அவமானப்படுத்துகிறான்.
ரங்கராஜன் தான் படித்தவன், காலக்ஷேபம் செய்தவன் என்று சொல்லி திரிவதால், அவன் தான் விவாதத்திற்கு வர வேண்டும். இவன் எத்தனை முறை வேளுகுடி கிருஷ்ணன் சுவாமியை தூஷனை செய்து இருக்கிறான். ஶ்ரீரங்கத்தில் ஆச்சார்ய பெருமக்களை
" தூத்தக் காரர்கள்" என்று தூற்றி இருக்கிறான் தெரியுமா?
அர்ச்சகர்களை கிண்டலும் கேலியும் செய்து இருக்கிறான் தெரியுமா? நீதி மன்றம் இவனை வேணு சீனிவாசன் அவர்களை அவதூறாக பேசியதற்காக கண்டித்து இருக்கிறது. அந்த வழக்கு நிலுவையில் உள்ளது.
இவனுக்கு.வாய் பூட்டு போட்டு இருக்கிறது.
@@peerni538the fight is between Rangarajan and Dushyant and between Rangarajan and Jayashree.
Hence the debate should be with them only one to one.
Rangarajan is hiding behind people who are his supporters and shooting from their shoulders.
Ask her how many years are there in yugas according to her findings separately.
not sure why this lady is giving the interview now. Many vedic scholars including Sri Velukudi Swami have clarified the age of Ramayana. She is adding fuel to the fire now instead of sitting down with scholars to discuss the matter amicably.
Velukkudi is undoubtedly great Vedic scholar but he is not an astronomer.
@@User01029 our rishis saw outside world from inside and I trust them/ancestors about what they taught us. it is my belief. I do not care if other have different opinion. For me, Rama is more important than His exact period of existence.
@@HariVayuGurusso you think Rama is not important to her or to me? I am also a follower of Velukkudi Krishnan. See the whole interview . She is not contradicting Rishis. The lakhs mentioned in the scriptures could be just thousands according to current time scale. Time and distance are relative to each other
திக கிட்ட காசு வாங்கிட்டு பேசுது
@@nachatraakshara1180திக காருக்கு பேச கூலிக்கு ஆளா என்ன தமாஷ்
hello the vedic and others scriptures were practiced only passed by hereditary - not y books
the same dushyanth from your team said this in many upanyasam
Please watch this 🙏
She is absolutely right. As an archeologist I completely agree to Madam's research.
People try to glorify by exaggeration and that's why time line looks dramatic. This is why non believers mock our scriptures saying it's not true.
Only when we interpret and give exact date like what Madam has done we are able to get exact date and this is proved scientifically and it is accepted world wide
Kudos to your efforts ma'am. Jai Shree Ram ❤😊
@@dr.rajeshramdev9675 Ila suttha poi.valmiki ramayanam padinga ungalukey puriyum
Time is useless. Digging the past and justifying with science is utter bullshit. Scientist often negate each others view and opinions. Science is thrash. When Rama existed is a coffeshop archeologist debate. Both have time to waste on tax payers expense.
@@hemalatha2658 We have read and I am an archeologist and in fact what she's saying is matching to both geological astronomical and other high end researches. Ramayan can never be before 7000 years from Common era now
@@dr.rajeshramdev9675 sir archeologist lam valmiki Ila. Rama avataram , krishna avataram indha rendu avataram idaila pala laksham varusam idaveli undu.ithuku proof skanda puranam. Neenga porumaya padinga. At the same time krishna avataram nadanthapo avanga vraj slangla pesirukanga.but vraj Vida romba palaya slang avad.ramayanam nadanthathu ayodhyala.ayodhi vasigal pesinathu avad.appo ethu unmai u neengaley Purinchikonga. And neenga solra mathiri 7000 years than agithu appdina sringiperapyrathula river enga sir pochu?
@@hemalatha2658மஹாபாரதம் தக்ஷிண பாரதத்தில் நடந்ததாகவும் ஸ்லோக வ்யாக்யானங்களுண்டே.
வ்ரஜ பாஷை ல அவை பேசப்படலை னு கூட நிரூபித்தவர்களுண்டு. 😂
Await responses of Ms.Jayasree and Mr. Dushyanth to the counter presented in many viseos from Sri.Rangarajan Narasimhan
Please let us know this from Madam -
Science tells us that dinosaurs lived several million years ago and we still find their remains. How is that ?
Ramayana already gives us a date for Lord Ram and why she thinks it’s wrong.
Does she not believe in valmiki ?
If she doesn’t believe in the dates given in Ramayana or any other sacred text , does she believe in Lord Ram or Krishna ?
ஏற்கனவே..
தான் பிடித்த முயலுக்கு மூன்றே கால்கள் என்பது போல.. தன் தவறை மறைக்கும்/மறுக்கும் Ms. ஜெயஸ்ரீ சாரநாதன் அவர்களை, இந்த Topic வீடியோ தொடர்பான ஃபோட்டோல ஏன் சீரியல் வில்லி கணக்கா வெளியிட்ருக்கீங்க..? 😇
I accept both Jayesree’s view and those given by rishis. 1. Time is relative to the distance between the earth and sun. Earth closer to Sun has shorter days and shorter years. Science clearly says universe expands continuously after the Big Bang. So the years mentioned in Puranas for the Yugas should not be equated to the present day time and year. Their 1 year could be much shorter than our 1 year. Anyone who has a different opinion for this can argue. I am open for arguments
@@User01029 finally someone speaking sense 👍🏻
Our ancient rishis were well versed in Astronomy, observations and calculations. We have a very long mathematical lineage. This madam has not studied mathematics of AryabhaTa for example and the AryabhaTa school of Astronomy that followed thereafter.
It is carbon dating not canon dating typing mistake.
Least bothered about age of Ramsysna.Let whole Ramayana be a literature.
Oil
It makes no fiference as to respect of the epic .
This research about birthday of Lord Rama is not all warrented.
The biggest problem is people dont get into debate with opponent party directly. They all talk separately
Because Rangarajan Narasimhan is a fighter cock who never debates logically, and abuses everyone who does not agree with him
Pesu Thamizha Pesu can host a debate show on this topic between Jaysree Saranathan and Narasimman rangarajan
Sanadanam HInduism Puranams, Ithikasams , Sastrams are the guidelines. Why should there be a debate on this. Beliefs, Trust is the life, religion, superstition , customary, tradition.
Why should there be research on this?? We should condemn such acts.
இதிஹாஸம் உண்மையில் நடந்தது . அதற்காகத்தான் இந்த பெயர் வந்தது. அர்த்தம் இது நடந்தது.
Ignorance is bliss. Half knowledge is dangerous. Time is fundamentally circular. Finding the correct circle instance is not easy to mark out historical period for itihasa happened aoens of years ago. The book YENIPPADIGALIL MAANTHARGAL and the chapter on vishu graha peyarchi details the intricacies of time and calculating yuga timelines. This book was written by sivan sar who is purvashrama brother of kanchi mahaperiyava. Sivan sar is a gnani . It has been already 3 lakh years since kaliyuga has started.
அருமையான ஆராய்சி , தாத்தா வெட்டிய கிணறு என்பதால் உப்புத்தண்ணீரைக் குடிப்போம் என்று அடம் பிடிக்கும் மனிதர்களிடம் என்ன ஆராய்ந்து சொன்னாலும் கேட்க மாட்டார்கள் . ஸ்ரீமதி ஜய ஸ்ரீசாரநாதன் அவர்களுக்கு பாராட்டுக்கள்
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Let us follow his teaching . This is irrelevant his birth date . Why now ?
Man lives 100 Yeats trees and animals live 200 rivers and mountains stones igneous life is calculated thro petrology textures on the rocks minerals dispersed o to the rocks revealing information. This is s ience scientific showing lammikuum, methods of working , logical , geological, plate yectonics , life of river ocean mountains young matured old etc , what is 24th chaturyugham
கிடைக்குமா கிடைக்குமா என்று இவர் கேட்கிறாரே. நான் இவரை கேட்கிறேன். அப்போ கடவுள் என்பவர் எத்தனை ஆண்டுகளாக இவ்வுலகில் உள்ளார்? ஏன் அவரை ஏர்க்கிறீர்கள்? நீங்கள் கடவுள் நம்பிக்கை உள்ளவர் தானா? இத்தனை யுகங்கள் தாண்டி ராமாயணம் என்ற சமஸ்கிரத புத்தகம் எப்படி இன்று வரை நிலைத்திருக்கிறது என்று இவர் கேட்கும் கேள்வி மிக சிறுபிள்ளை தனமாக உள்ளது. ராமவதாரம் என்பது விஷ்ணு வின் 7 வது அவதாரம். அப்போ விஷ்ணுவின் முன் அவதாரங்களை பற்றிய புத்தகங்கள் எல்லாம் எப்படி இன்று வரை நிலைத்திருக்கிறது? வேதங்கள் அநேக காலமாக நிலைத்திருக்கிறது என்பதை நீங்கள் ஏற்கவில்லையா?J
Time. Is immaterial.
Can't agree more for the dharmic people not for everyone - who may not know anything about dharma and adharma.
So why should one create an issue out of it.
For people who follow or wants to follow dharma and a dharmic way of life - Rama Gunanubhavam is enough.
Fortunately or unfortunately - Valmiki Ramayana has given time indications (do you think that was necessary or immaterial?!)
So everything has it's own merits and place.
பெட்ரோலியம் மற்றும் இயற்கை எரிவாயு நிலக்கரி உருவாக எத்தனை வருடங்கள் ஆகும்.
Nonsense historian
Sahasrakoti yugadharine namaha enbatharku enna artham
எப்படி என்றாலும் உண்மையை கொண்டு வந்தால் நன்று!கடவுள் உண்மையைக் கொண்டு வர உதவட்டும்.யார் உருவிலும்..
உருட்டு அம்மா நல்லா உருட்டு
Aasthika porvaiyil Nastikavadhi. This lady got a fitting reply from all the srivaishnava acharyas. Astikas who firmly believe in Ithihasa puranas does not require it to be backed by such research insights. For Nastikas whatever research you do to back ithihasa puranas, they never bother.
Then why many commentaries on religious texts, where diverse opinions are expressed.
@balajisrinivasan
Then why all the three acharyaas have written commentaries on Brahma Sutram. There are contradictions galore in the commentaries. Then do you conclude they are worthless.
Apart from the three great aacharyaas ( Sankarar, Ramanujar, Madhwar) lot of other scholars have not only written commentaries on Brahma Sutra, but also commentaries on these commentaries. The whole philosophy of sanathana dharma evolved only through
Question and answers. Secondly Vedic grammer is different from normal linguistic grammer.