2018 Jaguar E-Pace Takes On The Gold Mine Hill Off-Road Challenge
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Great video Roman .
There's this little thing called brake modulation that really helps an open carrier get power where it needs to be.
I don't think this was an issue of its tires. It simply did not send any power to the tires that had grip. Kind of disappointing.
I was gonna say the same thing but you beat me to it! if it were spinning all 4 and still not going anywhere, that would be a tire problem. if it was able to transfer more torque to the wheels with traction it would have made it up stage 2 with ease. simple as that.
Agreed. AWD system is a no-go at this station.
Great for outlet mall parking lots.
Amazing, I came here to see if I was willing to bite the bullet and go for the epace, instead decided that the same issue is on the Jeep Compass... might as well pay half the price for the same off road capabilities in same size/type....
I’m bummed.
Stuka87 Just as all Toyota Awd vehicles
Can you do the xc40 again?
When will we see the new 2019 Acura RDX take on the Gold Mine Hill Off-Road Challenge?
Tires are "all terrain"? Or all season???
Great video as usual Roman. Why didn’t power transfer to the rear wheels when the LH front wheel was spinning at Stage 2? Seems to me that a locking center differential would have been helpful.
Yes, indeed
Rear right wheel was spinning as well.
He didn’t turned off the Engine Traction Control. The power cuts off every time the computer detect a slip on the wheel. That means the transmission and the differential won’t work how is supposed to because the engine is working at a 20% or less
Nice vid !
Could you take the Jaguar I-Pace to the Gold Mine Hill ??
Thanks
I would have thought that the AWD system would be the same as the Evoke and Disco Sport, given it did so miserably It would be interesting to run Landrover’s second tier SUVs up goldmine hill.
The two tires that were dug right into the ground at Stage 2 were the ones NOT spinning.
What kind of a responsive AWD is this if its not going to send torque to tires that have grip right away?
I got a cherkoee trailhawk thats probably a hell of a lot cheaper than this and theres no way that would go on for that long. I have done worse hills in Auto mode lol (not needing 4 low or lockers), and when one or more tires lose grip, the other start working right away. Its quickly responsive.
Beautiful car
Why a “terrain management” button .... because it’s fun to pretend .....
Good video finally I thought you guys lost your souls.
Please make E-Pace vs RDX vs Q5 or just RDX vs Q5. The RDX is too new and there is no good comparison out there.
Please do a 2018 or similar ford edge sport!
He's making excuses that the car had no traction while other crossovers have 2 wheels high of the ground and still manage to send power to the other wheels. It's not grip it's the awd system.
or the guy just didn't have it set right or the way he thought. Hard to believe a system taken mostly from rover can fail like that.
What a great demo. The baby Jag was impressive. I think the speed of approach was very low. Should have been atleast 3 miles per hour more to give the car the momentum to go through.
With the new suv/crossover trend I fit in just fine with my 2007 Suzuki Grand Vitara that I’ve had even before this new trend started. I don’t have to spend 50k to be like everybody else! 😁
JustJay 0312 thank you for that lovely speech!
H'mmm actually had a lot ( too much?) of difficulty on stage 2,..didn't the VW with 4 Motion do waaay better than that? This does prove that the correct tires make all the difference, doesn't it?
Great video Roman, thanks.
A fast, luxury Compass
I’m which mode are you
So a Jaguar is slower than a brand new Jeep jl?
Soooo, would you call this a Jag-off?
Holy cow, one of the best comments I've ever seen on TH-cam. hahaha. If they find some other owners with Jags and go off road it could be a circle Jag-off.
Gabesafish
There's gotta be a Western Pa. connection behind this comment.
Yinz quit yer jag'n arahnd! :D
And an added feature is that you can follow the oil drip trail back home if you get lost!
Only after you do same for 95% other cars before it, as Jag is rated higher than most.
Does this have all-wheel or 4WD? (Does it have 4 Low)?
No 4wd. It's AWD. Doesn't have a low range either. Does have 8 speed automatic and a low speed cruise control that can be set between 1mph & 19mph.
Sounds like we need to look for a gold mine hill 2.0???
It's still just a car Roman! Is your shirt inside out ??
Man, I wish I had your job
Roman, been watching for a long time and wondering about gold mine hill...it does seem to be getting ALOT harder. do you think your gonna have to scout out another location for the crossover tests?
Perhaps
cascivic or they could do some trail repairs...
The Fast Lane Car I would like to see you stay at Gold Mine Hill but spend a day up there doing trail repairs, perhaps with Tread Lightly or another trail conservation group to keep the trail in similar condition as a standard benchmark for trucks/suvs.
I think that the problem is not so much tires. We’ve seen cars with similar tires making it. I think the issue with these cars is the minute suspension travel and the weak traction control which isn’t able to move the power from side to side.
Could be
Now try this in the i pace.
But with low profile tyres they are going to get beat bad off road
Not a baby Jagwor, it’s a baby Jag-u-ar.
everything has some type of traction control these days, even real 4x4's....The great thing is it allows those with minimum driving skills to conquer obstacles they normally couldn't...Real question is what will it cost to repair when these feature start failing in ten years? or will the parts even be available?? Think Thunderbird SC which was a a technological marvel when made, 15 years later finding parts was near impossible in some instances.
somehow it seems like the only car where tracktion control actually works is the Discovery.
All other vehicles just let these open diffs spin like there is absolutely no tracktion control :D
The Honda Ridgeline's AWD system worked well. Made it up stage III. th-cam.com/video/gcqATDtSRi0/w-d-xo.htmlm23s
The down side is most if not all crossover need some sort of electric locker without em their useless off road.
please take the F-Pace up gold mine hill
I like these but I'm not a buyer in this market. I'm a truck owner.
Articulation was the problem with traction.
The car would make it better up hill, if it were driven better, like a dif angle chosen.
Not the Jaguar's or tyres fault. Roman you seem like a nice guy (I like your Corsica video) but maybe just need to brush up on your off road skills. . . golden rule of offroading, don't drive into ruts. Seek out and drive into higher ground surfaces . . sorry mate. Your'e welcome to come to Oz and we'll take this car through it's paces here. . . nice go though. Bet it was fun!
The weird - it weighs more than the F-Pace and it shows.
Tire comes into play when all 4 wheels are spinning , all other cases are poorly designed awd systems
Maybe I just don't understand how complicated the programming is, but how can these automakers claim that their system brakes the wheel that's spinning freely, and then a wheel that's a foot in the air is still turning? I would think you could simply program it to think "This wheel is turning faster than the car is moving. It has low or no traction. Stop giving power to it/brake it because the energy being given to that wheel is being wasted. There's wheels that are moving the same speed as the car; give them the power because they have the traction." Somebody who's good with computers and knows more than I do about how these systems and programming work please tell me: Is it really that hard to do that?
MultiPurposeReviewer i was asking myself the same thing. i mean i basically looks like this car has no traction control lol
I know that they usually turn traction control off, but even when it's on, there's still wheels spinning that don't have traction.
Is it just something like the system isn't able to fully stop the wheel for some reason? It just seems like every time there's one of these "brake the spinning wheel" systems, it never actually fully brakes the wheel, whether it's on or off.
Brakes are applies for a fraction of a second which is way too short to transfer enough power to the other wheel to pull the car out. It was meant for a slippery road not serious offroading.
But isn't the whole point of braking a wheel to transfer the power? Is any measurable amount of power going to be transferred if the brakes are only applied for a fraction of a second, regardless of conditions?
In that class...all the engines are mounted transversely. No likey.
Good compact size
Bad infotainment Center
Weird a silhouette of a baby jaguar in the rear window
Jaguar will never be known for being off road worthy. If it's lucky, or maybe unlucky, 1 in 100 E-Pace's will see something other than asphalt. Jaguar sells in the US may have gone up since they released their CUVs but they will never be very good compared to other luxury brands.
BS the tires were not the problem. you had tires spinning and tires not turning at all.
Well it is based on the Evoque which is why it’s relatively good offroad, but also why it’s so heavy and bad on the road.
Joel Brand good offroad? did you watch the video? :D
Mr. World haha should have put the relative in apostrophes. It did really well back on the press launch but Gold Mine Hill was a huge disappointment. Thought it would make it up all 3 stages.
This (or any Jaguar) is a lease - never a buy...unless you have an endless pit with money in it. With that said, looks good inside and out.
Car looks soft in the front
A Jag that still runs after getting wet? Wow
Hence their high rating above most car makes, so yes.
I enjoy the videos, but it is a shame to see you regularly getting vehicles stuck on there and digging holes, without you making reference to any form of trail repairs you guys do. Because you do, don't you?
Expensive incompetent basically a car for show off. Still a beautiful car if you want a normal ride
i just want tata motor to copy jaguar e pace design and sell cheap in india
But the ford escape is better
Tata Harrier
JAGUAR 🤣
I love Jags but this one even looks shitty.
It doesn’t know which wheel to lock... it sucks
That's what Land Rover is for. Convenience of off-roading.
Double JJ since this is a JLR vehicle, it's a Land Rover with cheaper badging. This vehicle is a parts bin special between the Volar and the Evoque. This has the engine from an Evoque and the "awd" system from the Volar.
Xc40 way better than this
BarbecuedPossum agreed
boring volvo - urhh.
JAG U AR, 3 syllables, not 2
Robin Jeeves only where the queens speak English, not where the men do.
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ so you're saying that all the other English speaking countries have got it wrong apart from America. So that would mean Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United Kingdom.
I think you guys were wasting your time to test AWD vehicles on the Gold Mine Hill. Most people bought AWD for snow and most would never go off road in a luxury car. I would never drive my MDX SH/AWD off road. You should test them in snow only to simulate real situation.
Not very impressive performance or a choice of a challenging road. My "driveway" from the paved road to my off-grid home has more off-camber sections and larger rocks than that. And it's only located just a few miles from South Bend, Indiana. BTW, my wife's Nissan Versa handles our driveway much better than these vehicles you display. May I suggest Imogene Pass, Yankee Boy Basin, Engineer's Pass or Black Bear Road? Or are you choosing non-challenging roads under agreement of the automakers so they won't be embarrassed when they completely fail?
This is a mild all-road car. Certainly not an off-road car. It is more like a Honda HR-V than an off-roader. The Land Rover Discovery and larger Range Rovers are the ones you want for off-road use. Not the Evoque. Not the Range Rover Sport or even the Velar or F-Pace. Not the E or I-Pace either.
Jag without internal combustion and uses Electric motor is NOT a Jag anymore.... IT IS CALLED A EJag
Hah ! I remember when the Met police tried Jags as traffic cars, you could lose them easily in a sit up and beg Ford if you could get on a dirt track, because the Jags would beat themselves to death in a couple of hundred yards !
Weak! this thing can’t even climb a kind a steep hill.
JAG-U-ARE not JAGWAAAR
Phantom309 You pronounce it that way if you're a Brit, but here in America we say "jag-waar"
When Great Britain controlled the World Reserve Currency, they spoke the right way... that changed in 1973, the dollar is now the World Reserve Currency and nobody cares any longer what fruity way you people pronounce things...
My mom's $20K Hyundai Santa Fe Sport would do better.
if u dont try the 3rd stage, dont call it a gold mine hill then... this could easily be called as a click bait... just saying... disappointed
Compared to the Volvo XC40, the Volvo wins
Every car is better than a jag except audi bmw dodge mercedes range rover lol
What a boring vehicle.