There is only one thing unclear about this video. what if the lineage is grandfather, father, daughter? You showed every scenario except this. Can you clarify on whether that scenario applies to the simple straightforward lineage you first described?
How does one find out if your parent renounced Italian citizenship? It appears I meet all the qualifications. My father, who was born in Italy and came over as an infant, served in the US Army in WWII in Italy. Was renunciation required to enlist back then?
To confirm: My great-grandparents were born in Italy in the 1890s and married there before immigrating together to the US. Their daughter (my grandmother) was born in the US in 1923. Her father and mother naturalized, but in the late 1930s (father) and 1940s (mother). My father was born in 1955 in the US. The woman in my line, my grandmother, would've received citizenship because her father naturalized a decade after she was born. And she would've passed it on because my father was born after 1948. Do I have that right?
Hmm, a little different for me because I am Canadian. My Nonno left Italy for Canada in 1963, then my Nonna, aunt and uncles arrived in 1965. My dad was born in Canada in 1967 and I believe my grandparents became Canadian citizens in the 70s. I do have to find out if my grandparents kept their Italian or not.
What if your grandfather naturalized but assumed a new life under a whole new name? IE. my grandmas born in 1899 in Italy immigrated to the us in 1910. In 1916 to escape his fathers home he joined the army under a new name and lived the rest of his life under that name. Do I have a chance of gaining my Italian citizenship? I do know his original name and date of birth.
Oh ma gosh! I'm so happy to find your video! I started this process over 20 years ago, but I lacked persistence at that time to see my answer to the end. I'd love your input on the situation as far as I know so far. Great-grandparents (Peter and Maria) were born in Italy. Peter became a US citizen in 1917. Their 3rd daughter, Alma, was born in in the USA in 1919. Then my mom (1/2 Italian blood) was born in 1952. So from your video, it seems I would not qualify due to Peter becoming US citizen before Alma was born. Correct? If that is correct, then my next step would be to find out about Maria's time of becoming a citizen? Mille grazie for your video and any insight you might have!
I'm still a little bit confused with all the dates and unfortunately, my ancestors go way back in time. My great-great grandparents were born in Salerno in 1876, got married in Italy, then moved to Mexico in the early 1900s and kept their Italian citizenship. My great-grandfather was born in Mexico in 1914 so he had a Mexican nationality. Then he had my grandmother in 1945 who then had my mom in 1971 -- they all have Mexican nationalities. Would I still be eligible for an Italian citizenship?
That's so interesting...so I'm here because I'm Italian, American all my great-grandparents came from Italy to New York. What's so interesting is my husband is Mexican and he had a great-grandfather who came from Salerno to Tampico, and had children with a Mexican woman and one of their children was my husband's grandmother. They changed his last name to Salem. I'm just curious if you and my husband share the same ancestor! Did your ancestors come to Tampico????
My great grandmother was born in Italy with my great grandfather. I can't find where. I think Naples. I have her birth date may 2 1887.He was born in 1882. They came to America in 1905. I don't know when they became US citizens. My grandfather was born here after that. How do I find out where they were born and if I can get duel citizen ship. Thank you so much. I want to retire there I feel so at home when I go there I am 67 thank you.
I just looked it up. Generally speaking, there is no requirement to renounce foreign citizenship to serve in the US military. However, to receive an officer's commission, a candidate must renounce any foreign citizenship. Since my Dad was a 2nd Lieutenant during the war, and considering that Italy was a belligerent country at the time, he most certainly must have been required to renounce his Italian citizenship. Therefore, sadly, I am ineligible. If only he had been just a private . . .
so frustrating that women could not pass on Italian citizenship until 1948. My grandmother (deceased now) immigrated here in 1920 at 7 years of age and my mom was born in 1936. Are there people successfully challenging the the matrilineal 1948 cut off date?
Great-grandfather born in Italy, immigrated to the US. Grandfather born in 1928 in the US. Great-grandfather didn't naturalize until 1929. Grandfather is an Italian citizen via jure sanguinis, thus son of grandfather is too as is his grandson, correct?
My maternal grandparents emigrated to the U.S. from Italy in 1921, just prior to my mother's birth in 1922. My grandfather became a U.S. citizen after my mother's birth (in 1927), and the naturalization form required a statement that he "renounce absolutely and forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty and particularly to Victor Emmanuel III, King of Italy, of whom at this time I am a subject, and it is my intention to reside permanently in the United States." Does this make me ineligible for Italian citizenship?
These videos are so helpful! So if my Italian great grandfather never naturalized (as far as I can tell - still have to do the whole USCIS thing), then his daughter (my grandmother) was born in the 1920s, and then my mom was born in the 1950s, would that mean we could be eligible since my mom was born after 1948? Trying to trace back my mom's father's line as well, but there's a chance my great grandfather naturalized before my grandfather was born, so starting with my grandmother's lineage first.
Thank you for the video - I think you have confirmed that I may qualify - 1948 I think GGF(born 1905, naturalized, 1939) > GM (born 1926) > M (born 1951) Me - I found you through the Facebook group and I am just starting my journey thank you.
My great-grandmother became naturalized in 1940. My great-grandfather he registered for WWI in 1917 stating he was naturalized, but I can't seem to find and documents to prove it. Any recommendations on how to find out if or when he was naturalized? *praying it was after 1912* my grandfather was born in 1908.
Question: grandmother naturalized after my mother was born (post 1/1/48). However, her husband was granted citizenship as a child in 1926 via his father. Does this negate my connection via my grandmother?
My mom was a child in Italy during WWII and when the war ended, the border was moved and her area became part of Yugoslavia (she was born in 1930). Could I try through her line? She naturalized in the ‘50’s.
So my wife's Grandmother was born in 1899, left Italy at 17, and married at 19 (married 1918). Prior to 1922 in the US, women marrying US men with citizenship automatically got citizenship. Meaning grandmother never renounced her Italian citizenship. She did have my wife's father in '41, but based on your 1948 appeal video, my wife should still be eligible correct? As her grandmother never had to take the US citizenship oath and renounce her Italian citizenship? Or did the laws of Italy at the time state that female marrying a foreign national lost the Italian citizenship? Thanks for any feedback.
My grandfather is of Italian origin, he was born, lived and passed away in Italy without renouncing his citizenship. His son, my father was born in Italy and immigrated to Canada where he became a Canadian citizen. I was born in Canada of Italian hertiage( obviously). Should I apply for my citizenship through my father or Grandfather?
Hi! Would you please review my information to see if I may qualify for jure sanguinis? My great-grandfather was born in Italy in October 1874, my grandfather was born in Italy in May 1912 and my mother was born in the US in May 1940. My great-grandparents and my grandfather came to the US in 1917. My great-grandfather received US Citizenship in February 1937. Does my grandfather automatically become a US citizen when my great-grandfather received his citizenship? I haven't found my grandfather's citizenship paperwork yet. Thank you so much for your time.
My great great grandfather was born in 1856 but moved to usa in 1881, had my great grandfather in 1904 and then naturalized in 1916, there are no women in this line, could he still have become a citizen of Italy and possibly passed it down to me?
Grazie Mille !!!! : ) for the info !! To clarify please !! Do I understand that to have 2 of these requirements is enough ? I fit 2 of the requirements for my Dad's father who was born in italy Feb. 1 , 1891 and did not become naturalized until after July 1, 1912. Are these two requirements enough to work with for duel citizenship? I also own a house in Italy that is paid off and have some independent income already so I won't be a burden on the country : ) ? I also want to ask, should I get the Resident Visa to live there longer than 3 months, until I can finally get the duel citizenship. I assume it takes a long time to get the duel . How long generally ? Thank you,
Hi, i think that you answered my question, my grandparents were born in Italy, and my son wants to play soccer in europe so i am trying to get him italian citizenship. On my fathers side, my grandfather naturalized in 1926, my dad was born in 1938. My mom was born in 1936, but her mom naturalized in 1944. So..... I think its a no?
Hmm. Grandfather born in Italy 1900. Came over on boat 1912 with family. 1920 census shows his dad and mom (ggp's) naturalized in 1917. All the boxes for the family were marked NA as in naturalized but I thought you had to be 18 in order to start the process. Were the minors included along with their parents' naturalization? Or could the census be wrong (or maybe the relatives lied because of fear of the government) Wonder if they had to prove naturalization or just say it to the census takers.
found your video and i am hoping that i understand your comments. My grandmother spent her entire life in italy while my grandfather worked in the states. he became naturalized (1940) after my father was born. She was not a US citizen. My father emigrated in 1953 served in the US army was given US citizenship before I was born. Can I claim italian citizenship through my grandmother? From watching your video it seems that I can not. thanks josephine
My Great Grandparents on My Father's side came to America where My Grandfather was born in NJ. My Grandmother was also Italian as well and She Married My Grandfather and had 3 Children. My Uncle (Deceased in 2005), My Father (Deceased in 2015), and My Aunt still Alive. My Ancestry Information goes back 11 or 13 generations past Me. Everyone from My Great Grandparents are All from Italy. Most generations are all from the same small town. My Great Grandfather 1871 to 1965 and My Grandfather 1902 to 1953 and My Dad 1937 to 2015 and then Me in 1967. As far as their US Naturalization Yes, but I don't remember which Year. As far as giving up any Status, I don't think that Anyone ever did.
Great Video! I am starting the process and discovered my Italian grandfather was born in France while my Italian great grandparents were there for a short time for work. They later returned back to their town in Italy and registered his birth in Italy. I have his Italian birth certificate which specifies his birthplace as France to my Italian Great Grandparents. Does this pose a problem for me if I am using him as my LIRA? Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Thank You!
Thank you for the above video. All four grandparents migrated from (Sicily/Bari). I need to research male line and if/when grandfather (B:1888 or 1889) ever naturalized in the US to determine eligibility. Dad's older sister born in Palermo but my father was born in the US (1922). The ' If/When' date would determine if father was a Italian citizen at birth. Is this correct? Grazia!
This is great! My great grandfather was born in Italy in 1881, came to the US in 1911, had my grandfather in the US in 1917, became a citizen in 1941, and my dad was born in 1940 - does that make me eligible? I am the first female in the lineage.
Hello, my grandfather's father was an Italian citizen who lived in Canada for a short time and then left back to Italy without taking Canadian citizenship. My grandfather's mother raised him for a bit when he left, but soon put my infant grandpa up for adoption as she could not take care of him. Since my grandpa has a biological Italian father but was later adopted, does he still apply for Italian citizenship?
Hi Tristan, thanks for commenting! A lot of the eligibility rules are date dependent, and can be quite complex. Instead of delving into sensitive family information here, I recommend joining this Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/23386646249/ There are some great lawyers there who might be able to help you interpret the laws. If that doesn't work, I can certainly recommend some good people to get in touch with.
i think its silly . my grandparents never naturalized. i still have family in Italy. but because my dad did naturalize on his own. But what choice did he have anyway. before 1992 dual citizenship didn't exist so naturally he felt he had too. Even though i am still going to try i probably wont get it because of some arbitrary line. i think you should just have to prove that you have descendants from that country not because its unbroken.
@Brian Mino i know! i am wondering if I can get citizenship....my aunt and uncle (who also was a top ten tenor in the world out of Italy) live in Milan since the 1950s (though he is dead now). Would that be enough for me? a living relative in milan - who's mother was Italian born?
@Brian Mino related to my mother via the Italian mother mentioned above... siblings). my mother was born in 1944 though...and she is a woman! but is in usa.
I have a question. My Father was born in Italy. He married my Mom who was born in America & her parents ( my grandparents were born in Italy). I was born in 1961. My Mom and Dad divorced. He was Naturalized in 1966. What i would like to know is since my parents were divorced do i still need to provide a marriage certificate? Would i also have to provide a birth certificate of my Mother? My father was the only one born in Italy & i am a direct descendant of him. My Dad is alive & kicking at the ripe age of 91.
My maternal Italian Great Grandparents (all born well after 1861) emigrated to the US in the early 1900s. My maternal Italian Grandfather also emigrated in 1911. I have records of their entrance through Ellis Island. My mother was born in the US in 1923. I was born in 1948. From what I saw and heard in your video, it sounds like my only option for citizenship is moving to Italy since I'm already married. :-) Did I get that right?
Your great grands are both from Italy, as is your grandfather so they are Italian citizens. Did your grandfather naturalise before your mother was born?
Thank you for your video, but it is still a bit confusing for my situation. My grandfather Joe was born in Italy, my grandmother Carol (she is Italian) was born in the USA but moved to Italy when she was about 5 yo. My grandparents married in Italy, had 4 sons born in Italy then moved to USA where I am not sure if they renounced their Italian citizenship in the 60's. I still have 3rd-4th generation family in Italy. If my family did renounce their citizenship does this mean I am qualified? If they did not renounce their citizenship what does that mean for me then? Thank you very much for your time on this matter.
So just to clarify - you only need ONE such ancestor to qualify? ALL my great-grandparents were born in Italy, so potentially I could qualify several times over. I need to double check all the birth dates and naturalization records, but I know at least some of them (maybe all of them) fit the qualifications, yet I need only ONE? Does having more than one mean I have an even stronger case?
I am a female and was born in 1947. My grandparents were born in Italy. Can I go thru my maternal line with legal representation with the 1948 loophole if I am eligible thru my paternal Grandfather? I have a compication with my paternal Grandfather because he was born out of wedlock and his name on his birth certificate is different from his American name and all his American documents such as naturalization papers and death certificate. Thank you!
So if my mother was born in Rome to Italian parents who's family were Italians for generations (she immigrated when she was 6), however my father was born in Australia to two parents born in Italy, again, their families were previously born for generations in Italy, will I qualify? I am very confused.
I am a female. My grandfather was born after 1861 and died 1965. My father, however, was born in NYC in 1927, but raised in Italy since he was 6 months of age, and joined the American Navy as he retained his American citizenship. My mother, born in 1927, was an Italian citizen, as was her mother, my grandmother and my maternal grandfather, both born in the early 20th century. She became an American citizen in the early 1950s, but I am not certain whether or not she renounced her Italian citizenship, but at the time, I think she had to do so. I was born in October of 1947 in the USA. What option, if any, does this give me for dual citizenship?
As long as your grandfather naturalised after your dad was born or if he didn't naturalise at all then he has passed citizenship onto your father. If your father hasn't renounced his Italian citizenship he has passed eligibility of citizenship onto you. Was your mother born in Italy? I think under the 1948 rule you do not qualify through the maternal line, however it can be challenged www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/emigration/31488
My grandparents never got married, however my grandfather from my mother’s side is an Italian citizen, and my grandmother’s parents were citizens as well. Would I still be able to go through the process without a marriage certificate from my grandparents, or did they both need to be citizens through marriage?
My cousin is looking for Duel citizenship. His father is not Italian. Is maternal greatgrandfather is Italian born and probably wasn't naturalized. His grandfather was American born.
First of all thank you for these videos. However I am still confused lol!!! I want to move to Italy after I retire in two years. 3 of 4 of my grandparents were born in Italy. I have their original citizenship papers. My dad was born in New York on Nov 1930. His parents became US citizens in 1943. So am I eligible and where do I start? Do I need to attain documentation for all my grandparents ancestry or just the one that I qualify through such as my paternal grandfather? Is it possible to get this within two years? Thank you!
Knowing that your GF was naturalized after the birth of your dad's birth is the first and most important part of your query. In your case, if you have already ascertained that the naturalization happened only after the birth of your GF's child (in your case 1930 vs 1943) it is just a matter of being patient and collect the birth, marriage and death certificate of all the members of the Italian side of the family from your GF up to you...With some help, you might be ready for your citizenship applications in about 6 months...
My situation is the same lineage as in 3:35, meeting the requirements in 3:50. My question is that if my grandmother never naturalised, but was born a dual Italian-US citizen to dual Italian-US citizen parents in Italy, then she never renounced her Italian citizenship because she didn't have to become a US citizen. Am I still eligible?
Any suggestions on finding records from ancestors who never left Italy and marriages/births that took place there? I’ve searched and searched ancestry websites but can’t confirm my great great grandparents names or my great grandparents marriage/birth info needed to request records from Italy. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thank you!
Is there a limit for how many generations back jure sanguinis applies? My family fits all the criteria but it was my great great grandfather who immigrated to the U.S. I've looked at some documents and they all seem to only have options going back to great grandfather so I'm wondering if you know if thats the generation limit or something
My grandfather was born in Italy in 1868 and my father was born in the US in 1899. My grandfather naturalized in 1935. I was born in the US in 1944. Am I eligible to apply for dual citizenship?
So... My great grandparents were born in Italy and moved to the US around 1922 (they moved in different years) My grandma was born in the US in 1940 and did not have italian citizenship My dad was born in 1963 and did not have citizenship would I be able to get citizenship since I was born after 1992?
your dad might have had italian citizenship, or was at least eligible for it because he was born after 1948 so your mother was able to pass it down to him. your date of birth is irrelevant.
I have a question. My grandfather became naturalized in 1925. He was still an Italian citizen when my mother was born in 1924. From what I read she can pass it on to me because I was born in 1952. I think that is category 4 but what worried me was when I asked the Italian Consulate about it, they asked me did she apply for Italian citizenship. I told them she was a babyand babies can’t. I am worried that she was supposed to do citizenship by descent before me but she didn’t even know she was an Italian citizren by birth. I told him she was a baby in 1925 so he seemed to accept it. Could that be a problem?
No. Under the Italian law you are Italian if your mother (after 1948) or your father are/were Italian at the moment you were born, regardless to any application. You are not asking for naturalization since you and your mom seem to be, both, Italian by birth. I guess they asked you so to make everything easier.
I'm close, but it seems no cigar. My Italian grandmother had my dad in 1946.. not 1948 or after.. so I guess that makes me ineligible.. although I do still have quarter of my family italian. I heard some people challenge the unequal case between male and female passed lineage successfully.
Does anyone know a good place to get documents translated into Italian? I'm guessing it needs to be done by some kind of company or organization or something, and I can't just find someone fluent in Italian?
My husband’s 2 parents were Italian, he was born in Caracas, Venezuela in 1954, they lived there for almost a year then came to the US in 1955, the whole family became citizens around 1963, can he apply for jure sanguinis citizenship?, could the fact that he became an american citizen jeopardize his chance? Thank you.
I post videos that specifically deal with "jure sanguinis" - meaning, gaining Italian citizenship by way of blood right :) There are definitely other ways of gaining citizenship, I just don't cover them here!
Badr Alhazmi If you are born in Italy you are not entitled to Italian citizenship automatically as Italy is a country which doesn't grant Jus Soli (unless you are stateless). This is a controversial topic in Italy and the government is currently debating as to whether to allow jus soli to the high number of undocumented children from refugees abroad who are born in Italy. You can read more about this topic on the Italian Citizenship Law page on Wikipedia, which in my opinion does a good job at explaining how you can obtain Italian citizenship not through blood. One thing I would say I have just obtained my Italian passport through jus sanguine and it required so many documents and you have to go to your commune to get the ID Card and many more documents....I dare to think how difficult it would be to get it through jus soli or naturalisation :/ Hope this helps :)
Apply for real Database Registered Passport ,Visa, Driver License etc on Email: (( Expresspass@post.c om )) Legit Database Registered ,Toefl, Ielts, Toeic, Passport, Visas,Id cards,Driver License,SSN,Green Card Online,Social Security #, Driver's License, Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates, Toefl, Divorce Certificates, Gun License, Visas, Death Certificates, Residence Permits, Green card, Football License ?/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Postulez pour le passeport enregistré de la base de données réelle, Visa, permis de conduire, etc. sur le courrier électronique: ((Expresspass@post.c om)) Base de données Legit enregistrée, Toefl, Ielts, Toeic, passeport, visas, cartes Id, Driver Licence, SSN, carte verte en ligne, numéro de sécurité sociale, permis de conduire, certificats de naissance, certificats de mariage, toefl, certificats de divorce, permis de pistolet, visas, certificats de décès, permis de résidence, carte verte, licence de football? ////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////
What constitutes another lineage? Sadly, I don’t think I qualify because both of my parents naturalized in 1950. My fathers father never naturalized nor did his wife. But, I assume the chain was broken by my parents?
Hi, so I am a little confused. My grandparents were Italian, raised and died in Italy. My mother was born in Italy but came to the US in the 60's were she obtained citizenship. I am not sure the exact year but I was born in '66. Does this mean that I do not qualify for dual citizenship? Do I need to find the year she became a US citizen?
Hi, Good video. Both of my parents were born in Italy. I have my dads birth certficate and their marriage license. Is this enough to qualify and begin the process? I was born in 1958. Both of my parents became US citizens. I was just wondering if I still need to get the US immigration papers. Thank you
Ciao!!! I descend in an entirely male line from my great-great grandfather. He was a dual-citizen, to the best of my knowledge. How would I go about discovering if my grandfather ever renounced citizenship? Additionally, my great grandfather on my mother's side was an Italian citizen born in Avellino. To the best of my knowledge, he never renounced his citizenship. He was my mother's father's father. Could I possibly claim it through him? He was born in 1896 and came to the US in 1902 or 1903. This process is so confusing and I appreciate the help.
So I'm having a bit of a dilemma. My grandfather naturalized in the US BEFORE my father was born but I'm pretty sure my grandmother and grandfather were married before he got citizenship. Someone told me that my grandma automatically gained Italian citizenship when she got married. Does this in theory mean she can pass her Italian citizenship onto me?
My mother was born in Brescia in 1943. I was born in the US 1968 and my mother became a citizen in 1976. I've never renounced my citizenship. So if she has then I can't get dual? I'm not aware wether she has renounced hers. What would she have done to do that specifically? Thanks.
My father was adopted, but his mother was born in Italy and he meets all the other requirements. His birth certificate also has his Italian adopted parents last name. Are we still eligible?
You are potentially still eligible, but you will need to check with the Consulate office to make double sure in case there is some other detail I am missing here. You will also need to see which documents you need to collect to account for the adoption. When I have worked with applications involving adoption before, we needed to collect: Adoption Decree (several page document), ORIGINAL pre-adoption Birth Certificate (this can be a massive, expensive pain), Birth Certificate post-adoption, and the Termination of Parental Rights document. Hope this helps!
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time :) I recommend joining this facebook group - they are amazing support: facebook.com/groups/23386646249/?ref=bookmarks
Very true! After talking to my father, I guess my grandma and grandfather were actually both born in America and it was their parents who immigrated with their older siblings. I suppose this will make the process even more difficult. I'll be sure to join, thanks for your help!
what about my great-grandfather he was born in 1889 never became a US citizen I had my grandfather my grandfather was drafted in the military and Korea had my mother and she had me
My GGF and GGM were both born in Italy after 1861. They emigrated to Sault Sainte Marie Canada. My GM was born in Sault Sainte Marie Canada. She married my GF and they lived in Sault Sainte Marie MI. My F was born in 1937 in Sault Sainte Marie MI. Do I have a case for Italian citizenship?
So your great grandparents both born in Italy had your grandmother in Canada. Your grandmother being an Italian had her son (your dad) before 1948 so has not passed on to him, however that rule can be challenged on the basis of equality. www.myitalianfamily.com/resource-center/challenging-1948-rule-italy
My dads great grandmother and my great great grandfather were both born in Italy so for lineage those are my options. I don’t think I am eligible through my great great grandfather because I think I he broke the chain with my great grandfather since I think he was naturaly in 1893 and my great grandfather was born in 1901. I am hoping I am eligible through my great grandmother who naturalized in 1940 and my grandmother was born in 1934. So I think she passed the rights but could I have issues with the fact that she naturalized and my grandmother was born before 1948. My agency still think it’s possible for me to get citizenship by blood through a court case.
www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/emigration/31488 Yes, citizenship through a court case in Italy is your best bet Sarah. It is worth checking naturalisation records though again just to make sure.
Correct. Your grandfather had to still be an Italian citizen when your father was born. For instance, my father was born in Chicago in 1917 and his father didn't naturalize until 1929. Sorry!
Hi , I am a little confused if I qualify. My grandfather was born in Rome 1926 and later immigrated to Colombia where he married my grandmother a Colombian. My father was born in colombia in 1983 and he obtained his Italian citizenship before I was ever born. My grandfather never naturalized to become a Colombian citizen and my father became a us citizen well after my birth in 1990 ( he has all three citizenships). Do I qualify
Hi Anthony - sorry for the delay, have been on holiday :D The next few videos I will be posting are actually about naturalisation documents. A good way to do a rough guess of whether your GGF naturalised it to search through old census records that you can find on ancestry.com. Here's a guide to helpful clues found in census records: www.archives.gov/research/census/1850-1930.html Good place to start :)
Find the Federal Court that had jurisdiction where your Father resided. He would have filed a petition for Citizenship, then he would have had an hearing, then had he passed that, he would have been allowed to take the Oath of allegiance to the U.S., which would have required him to disavow his allegiance to Italy. All of this would have been done under oath. My Great Grandfather immigrated here in 1903, in early 30's, petitioned for U.S. citizenship but was denied. This was in 1925 after the Change in U.S. Immigration laws that restricted immigration from what was then "Ethnic Catholic countries", i.e thus Italians, Irish and Polish were restricted, along with East European Jews. So my Great_Grandfather was never not an Italian citizen, my Grandfather born here in around 1908 was a citizen, and never renounced anything nor had my Father or me. So I would meet the requirements of Jure Sanguinis Citizenship through my Great Grandfather.
DIY Italian Citizenship hi I just wanted to know if this would also be considered with your great-grandfather he was born in 1889 never became a citizen of the US had my grandfather my grandfather served and Korea and he had my mother and then my mother had me what about me
I liked and subscribed. Thanks for the mapping it out. That helps. I wonder about my Grandfather. He was socialist and left the country. It all looks good. The only wild card is if he renounced his citizenship. I wonder how fast I could find out that tid bit?
My Grandfather was born in Italy in 1910 and came to America in 1929. I found a ship manifest that says “if naturalized give name and location of court which issued naturalization papers” and it says only “by fathers papers” . When I did a USCIS search they found no record of naturalization. What does this mean? Thank you
I have an Irish passport through my dad's birth there but my grandmother was also born in Italy and grandfather born in the USA shortly after his parents arrived from Italy. I don't believe any of my great grandparents were naturalized USA citizens or my grandmother. I believe I also qualify for an Italian passport. Any advice?
When was your dad born? is this your paternal grandmother from Italy? If so he needs to be born after 1948 but you can apply if he was born before 1948 and go through appeal when they decline www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/emigration/31488
Hi and thank you for all your work on this site. My Mother and Father (both from Italy) came to the states in 1949, my sister was born in Italy in 1946. I was born here in the NYC in 1952. How do I stand. The 1948 comment confused me.
Your sister and her direct descendants can apply only through your dad but you and your direct descendants can apply through either your mom or dad as you were born after 1948
Hi . My great grandfather (b1881) came to US in 1903 never naturalized. Gave birth to a son in 1918 who gave birth to a son in 1957 who gave birth to me. Do I qualify for citizenship? How do I go about getting using only my Great grandfather? What do I need? I found my great grandfather birth records on the Italian records site. How do I obtain the actual correct type of birth record?
Your great grandfather was born in Italy and alive after March 17 1861, he never naturalised so passed citizenship onto his son (your grandfather). Your grandfather I assume never renounced his Italian citizenship so passed it onto his son (your dad) and I assume your dad never renounced his Italian citizenship so that would mean he has passed entitlement to you as well :)
Accordion to the Philadelphia consulate: after 10 years of legal residence in Italy; in the presence of sufficient income; in the absence of criminal record; upon renunciation of citizenship in country of origin (where required).
Unfortunately, if one was born in Italy, like myself, and became an American citizen, you have to live in Italy, for about 4 months, to get your Italian citizenship back. Ridiculous
Hi There, my great grandfather was born in Italy, and my grandmother was also an Italian citizen, although born in Vienna. She became a naturalized US citizen in 1951, and gave birth to my mother in 1953. Is there any way we could be eligible? I am confused but hopeful.
What date was her naturalisation? Apparently it is 5 years wait or something. The key to find out your eligibility is the naturalisation dates. If not, check to see if you are eligible for Austrian citizenship through grandparent. Austria like Italy is EU.
I'm was born in New York but my grandparents came from Italy. Am I still eligable for italian citizenship?If I have to renounce my U.S citizenship to get it, I would.
Don't worry you don't have to renounce your US citizenship!! US and Italy allow dual citizenship with one another. You would only have to renounce your American citizenship if and only if you went through the whole naturalization process in Italy, that would mean having no Italian ancestry. Yet, your grandparents are Italian making you ethnically Italian. In that case you would be good to apply for dual citizenship! After that you may move to Italy, if you would like, and can then live across all of the EU, since Italy is in the EU you would also be an EU citizen.
Hello the New York City Council accepted my papers on May 23rd and I was told I'd have to wait at least a year is it possible to go to my grandfather's Hometown to speed up my paperwork I appreciate anyone's help as there is not a lot of information while you're waiting for your documents we plan to move to Italy but must leave in 3 months if we don't have our papers thank you Debora
No. Once people have submitted papers to a Consulate they cannot go to apply directly in Italy unfortunately. Otherwise it is a wonderful option. (Which I just did in May 2017). But since you are moving there it might be different. Call your consulate to ask.
This process gets a little confusing sometimes with all the different dates so thank you so much for making it easy to understand!
The Italy government should change the 1912 rule.
There is only one thing unclear about this video. what if the lineage is grandfather, father, daughter? You showed every scenario except this. Can you clarify on whether that scenario applies to the simple straightforward lineage you first described?
How does one find out if your parent renounced Italian citizenship? It appears I meet all the qualifications. My father, who was born in Italy and came over as an infant, served in the US Army in WWII in Italy. Was renunciation required to enlist back then?
To confirm:
My great-grandparents were born in Italy in the 1890s and married there before immigrating together to the US.
Their daughter (my grandmother) was born in the US in 1923.
Her father and mother naturalized, but in the late 1930s (father) and 1940s (mother).
My father was born in 1955 in the US.
The woman in my line, my grandmother, would've received citizenship because her father naturalized a decade after she was born. And she would've passed it on because my father was born after 1948. Do I have that right?
Should be fine :)
Do you have an Italian passport?
Correct.
OUTSTANDINGLY clear. Grazie!!!
Hmm, a little different for me because I am Canadian. My Nonno left Italy for Canada in 1963, then my Nonna, aunt and uncles arrived in 1965. My dad was born in Canada in 1967 and I believe my grandparents became Canadian citizens in the 70s. I do have to find out if my grandparents kept their Italian or not.
As they naturalised after your dad was born I believe your dad had citizenship from birth so has passed to you
Me to same here my grandparents became Canadian citizens in 1978 my dad was born in 1962 .
What if your grandfather naturalized but assumed a new life under a whole new name? IE. my grandmas born in 1899 in Italy immigrated to the us in 1910. In 1916 to escape his fathers home he joined the army under a new name and lived the rest of his life under that name. Do I have a chance of gaining my Italian citizenship? I do know his original name and date of birth.
Oh ma gosh! I'm so happy to find your video! I started this process over 20 years ago, but I lacked persistence at that time to see my answer to the end. I'd love your input on the situation as far as I know so far. Great-grandparents (Peter and Maria) were born in Italy. Peter became a US citizen in 1917. Their 3rd daughter, Alma, was born in in the USA in 1919. Then my mom (1/2 Italian blood) was born in 1952. So from your video, it seems I would not qualify due to Peter becoming US citizen before Alma was born. Correct? If that is correct, then my next step would be to find out about Maria's time of becoming a citizen? Mille grazie for your video and any insight you might have!
Have you seen the dates they became naturalised US citizens?
I'm still a little bit confused with all the dates and unfortunately, my ancestors go way back in time. My great-great grandparents were born in Salerno in 1876, got married in Italy, then moved to Mexico in the early 1900s and kept their Italian citizenship. My great-grandfather was born in Mexico in 1914 so he had a Mexican nationality. Then he had my grandmother in 1945 who then had my mom in 1971 -- they all have Mexican nationalities. Would I still be eligible for an Italian citizenship?
Yes, you would. If your great-great grandfather never gave up Italian citizenship, they passed it on to your great-grandfather
Yes, if no one gave up Italian citizenship then you qualify. Based on the information you are in.
That's so interesting...so I'm here because I'm Italian, American all my great-grandparents came from Italy to New York. What's so interesting is my husband is Mexican and he had a great-grandfather who came from Salerno to Tampico, and had children with a Mexican woman and one of their children was my husband's grandmother. They changed his last name to Salem. I'm just curious if you and my husband share the same ancestor! Did your ancestors come to Tampico????
My great grandmother was born in Italy with my great grandfather. I can't find where. I think Naples. I have her birth date may 2 1887.He was born in 1882. They came to America in 1905. I don't know when they became US citizens. My grandfather was born here after that. How do I find out where they were born and if I can get duel citizen ship. Thank you so much. I want to retire there I feel so at home when I go there I am 67 thank you.
I just looked it up. Generally speaking, there is no requirement to renounce foreign citizenship to serve in the US military. However, to receive an officer's commission, a candidate must renounce any foreign citizenship. Since my Dad was a 2nd Lieutenant during the war, and considering that Italy was a belligerent country at the time, he most certainly must have been required to renounce his Italian citizenship. Therefore, sadly, I am ineligible. If only he had been just a private . . .
so frustrating that women could not pass on Italian citizenship until 1948. My grandmother (deceased now) immigrated here in 1920 at 7 years of age and my mom was born in 1936. Are there people successfully challenging the the matrilineal 1948 cut off date?
Great-grandfather born in Italy, immigrated to the US. Grandfather born in 1928 in the US. Great-grandfather didn't naturalize until 1929. Grandfather is an Italian citizen via jure sanguinis, thus son of grandfather is too as is his grandson, correct?
My maternal grandparents emigrated to the U.S. from Italy in 1921, just prior to my mother's birth in 1922. My grandfather became a U.S. citizen after my mother's birth (in 1927), and the naturalization form required a statement that he "renounce absolutely and forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty and particularly to Victor Emmanuel III, King of Italy, of whom at this time I am a subject, and it is my intention to reside permanently in the United States." Does this make me ineligible for Italian citizenship?
No as he naturalised and gave up Italian citizenship after your mother was born.
These videos are so helpful! So if my Italian great grandfather never naturalized (as far as I can tell - still have to do the whole USCIS thing), then his daughter (my grandmother) was born in the 1920s, and then my mom was born in the 1950s, would that mean we could be eligible since my mom was born after 1948? Trying to trace back my mom's father's line as well, but there's a chance my great grandfather naturalized before my grandfather was born, so starting with my grandmother's lineage first.
Thank you for the video - I think you have confirmed that I may qualify - 1948 I think GGF(born 1905, naturalized, 1939) > GM (born 1926) > M (born 1951) Me - I found you through the Facebook group and I am just starting my journey thank you.
My great-grandmother became naturalized in 1940. My great-grandfather he registered for WWI in 1917 stating he was naturalized, but I can't seem to find and documents to prove it. Any recommendations on how to find out if or when he was naturalized? *praying it was after 1912* my grandfather was born in 1908.
Question: grandmother naturalized after my mother was born (post 1/1/48). However, her husband was granted citizenship as a child in 1926 via his father. Does this negate my connection via my grandmother?
My mom was a child in Italy during WWII and when the war ended, the border was moved and her area became part of Yugoslavia (she was born in 1930). Could I try through her line? She naturalized in the ‘50’s.
So my wife's Grandmother was born in 1899, left Italy at 17, and married at 19 (married 1918). Prior to 1922 in the US, women marrying US men with citizenship automatically got citizenship. Meaning grandmother never renounced her Italian citizenship.
She did have my wife's father in '41, but based on your 1948 appeal video, my wife should still be eligible correct? As her grandmother never had to take the US citizenship oath and renounce her Italian citizenship? Or did the laws of Italy at the time state that female marrying a foreign national lost the Italian citizenship? Thanks for any feedback.
My grandfather is of Italian origin, he was born, lived and passed away in Italy without renouncing his citizenship. His son, my father was born in Italy and immigrated to Canada where he became a Canadian citizen. I was born in Canada of Italian hertiage( obviously). Should I apply for my citizenship through my father or Grandfather?
Hi! Would you please review my information to see if I may qualify for jure sanguinis? My great-grandfather was born in Italy in October 1874, my grandfather was born in Italy in May 1912 and my mother was born in the US in May 1940. My great-grandparents and my grandfather came to the US in 1917. My great-grandfather received US Citizenship in February 1937. Does my grandfather automatically become a US citizen when my great-grandfather received his citizenship? I haven't found my grandfather's citizenship paperwork yet. Thank you so much for your time.
My great great grandfather was born in 1856 but moved to usa in 1881, had my great grandfather in 1904 and then naturalized in 1916, there are no women in this line, could he still have become a citizen of Italy and possibly passed it down to me?
Grazie Mille !!!! : ) for the info !! To clarify please !!
Do I understand that to have 2 of these requirements is enough ? I fit 2 of the requirements for my Dad's father who was born in italy Feb. 1 , 1891 and did not become naturalized until after July 1, 1912. Are these two requirements enough to work with for duel citizenship? I also own a house in Italy that is paid off and have some independent income already so I won't be a burden on the country : ) ? I also want to ask, should I get the Resident Visa to live there longer than 3 months, until I can finally get the duel citizenship. I assume it takes a long time to get the duel . How long generally ? Thank you,
Hi, i think that you answered my question, my grandparents were born in Italy, and my son wants to play soccer in europe so i am trying to get him italian citizenship. On my fathers side, my grandfather naturalized in 1926, my dad was born in 1938. My mom was born in 1936, but her mom naturalized in 1944. So..... I think its a no?
Hmm. Grandfather born in Italy 1900. Came over on boat 1912 with family. 1920 census shows his dad and mom (ggp's) naturalized in 1917. All the boxes for the family were marked NA as in naturalized but I thought you had to be 18 in order to start the process. Were the minors included along with their parents' naturalization? Or could the census be wrong (or maybe the relatives lied because of fear of the government) Wonder if they had to prove naturalization or just say it to the census takers.
found your video and i am hoping that i understand your comments. My grandmother spent her entire life in italy while my grandfather worked in the states. he became naturalized (1940) after my father was born. She was not a US citizen. My father emigrated in 1953 served in the US army was given US citizenship before I was born. Can I claim italian citizenship through my grandmother? From watching your video it seems that I can not. thanks josephine
My Great Grandparents on My Father's side came to America where My Grandfather was born in NJ.
My Grandmother was also Italian as well and She Married My Grandfather and had 3 Children. My Uncle (Deceased in 2005), My Father (Deceased in 2015), and My Aunt still Alive.
My Ancestry Information goes back 11 or 13 generations past Me.
Everyone from My Great Grandparents are All from Italy.
Most generations are all from the same small town.
My Great Grandfather 1871 to 1965 and My Grandfather 1902 to 1953 and My Dad 1937 to 2015 and then Me in 1967.
As far as their US Naturalization Yes, but I don't remember which Year.
As far as giving up any Status, I don't think that Anyone ever did.
You qualify for Italian citizenship then I think. Need to check naturalisation records though
Great Video! I am starting the process and discovered my Italian grandfather was born in France while my Italian great grandparents were there for a short time for work. They later returned back to their town in Italy and registered his birth in Italy. I have his Italian birth certificate which specifies his birthplace as France to my Italian Great Grandparents. Does this pose a problem for me if I am using him as my LIRA? Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Thank You!
Thank you for the above video. All four grandparents migrated from (Sicily/Bari). I need to research male line and if/when grandfather (B:1888 or 1889) ever naturalized in the US to determine eligibility. Dad's older sister born in Palermo but my father was born in the US (1922). The ' If/When' date would determine if father was a Italian citizen at birth. Is this correct? Grazia!
Ugh my great grandparents naturalized in 1916 but my grandma was born in 1921 😭
My grandparents became Canadian citizens in 1978 my father was born in 1962 looks good so far . :)
This is great! My great grandfather was born in Italy in 1881, came to the US in 1911, had my grandfather in the US in 1917, became a citizen in 1941, and my dad was born in 1940 - does that make me eligible? I am the first female in the lineage.
Hello, my grandfather's father was an Italian citizen who lived in Canada for a short time and then left back to Italy without taking Canadian citizenship. My grandfather's mother raised him for a bit when he left, but soon put my infant grandpa up for adoption as she could not take care of him. Since my grandpa has a biological Italian father but was later adopted, does he still apply for Italian citizenship?
Hi Tristan, thanks for commenting! A lot of the eligibility rules are date dependent, and can be quite complex. Instead of delving into sensitive family information here, I recommend joining this Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/23386646249/ There are some great lawyers there who might be able to help you interpret the laws. If that doesn't work, I can certainly recommend some good people to get in touch with.
DIY Italian Citizenship Thank you!
i think its silly . my grandparents never naturalized. i still have family in Italy. but because my dad did naturalize on his own. But what choice did he have anyway. before 1992 dual citizenship didn't exist so naturally he felt he had too. Even though i am still going to try i probably wont get it because of some arbitrary line. i think you should just have to prove that you have descendants from that country not because its unbroken.
@Brian Mino that's so stupid
@Brian Mino i know! i am wondering if I can get citizenship....my aunt and uncle (who also was a top ten tenor in the world out of Italy) live in Milan since the 1950s (though he is dead now). Would that be enough for me? a living relative in milan - who's mother was Italian born?
did you ever get it?
Sassy Pants No I cant because the lineage is broken. I want to though.
@Brian Mino related to my mother via the Italian mother mentioned above... siblings). my mother was born in 1944 though...and she is a woman! but is in usa.
My great great grandfather immigrated to America but he was born in 1859. Is this an issue??
I have a question. My Father was born in Italy. He married my Mom who was born in America & her parents ( my grandparents were born in Italy). I was born in 1961. My Mom and Dad divorced. He was Naturalized in 1966. What i would like to know is since my parents were divorced do i still need to provide a marriage certificate? Would i also have to provide a birth certificate of my Mother? My father was the only one born in Italy & i am a direct descendant of him. My Dad is alive & kicking at the ripe age of 91.
My maternal Italian Great Grandparents (all born well after 1861) emigrated to the US in the early 1900s. My maternal Italian Grandfather also emigrated in 1911. I have records of their entrance through Ellis Island. My mother was born in the US in 1923. I was born in 1948. From what I saw and heard in your video, it sounds like my only option for citizenship is moving to Italy since I'm already married. :-) Did I get that right?
Your great grands are both from Italy, as is your grandfather so they are Italian citizens. Did your grandfather naturalise before your mother was born?
Thank you for your video, but it is still a bit confusing for my situation. My grandfather Joe was born in Italy, my grandmother Carol (she is Italian) was born in the USA but moved to Italy when she was about 5 yo. My grandparents married in Italy, had 4 sons born in Italy then moved to USA where I am not sure if they renounced their Italian citizenship in the 60's. I still have 3rd-4th generation family in Italy. If my family did renounce their citizenship does this mean I am qualified? If they did not renounce their citizenship what does that mean for me then? Thank you very much for your time on this matter.
So just to clarify - you only need ONE such ancestor to qualify? ALL my great-grandparents were born in Italy, so potentially I could qualify several times over. I need to double check all the birth dates and naturalization records, but I know at least some of them (maybe all of them) fit the qualifications, yet I need only ONE? Does having more than one mean I have an even stronger case?
No. You apply through one. I would assume it helps to have more options though.
I am a female and was born in 1947. My grandparents were born in Italy. Can I go thru my maternal line with legal representation with the 1948 loophole if I am eligible thru my paternal Grandfather? I have a compication with my paternal Grandfather because he was born out of wedlock and his name on his birth certificate is different from his American name and all his American documents such as naturalization papers and death certificate. Thank you!
So if my mother was born in Rome to Italian parents who's family were Italians for generations (she immigrated when she was 6), however my father was born in Australia to two parents born in Italy, again, their families were previously born for generations in Italy, will I qualify?
I am very confused.
I am a female. My grandfather was born after 1861 and died 1965. My father, however, was born in NYC in 1927, but raised in Italy since he was 6 months of age, and joined the American Navy as he retained his American citizenship. My mother, born in 1927, was an Italian citizen, as was her mother, my grandmother and my maternal grandfather, both born in the early 20th century. She became an American citizen in the early 1950s, but I am not certain whether or not she renounced her Italian citizenship, but at the time, I think she had to do so. I was born in October of 1947 in the USA. What option, if any, does this give me for dual citizenship?
As long as your grandfather naturalised after your dad was born or if he didn't naturalise at all then he has passed citizenship onto your father. If your father hasn't renounced his Italian citizenship he has passed eligibility of citizenship onto you. Was your mother born in Italy? I think under the 1948 rule you do not qualify through the maternal line, however it can be challenged www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/emigration/31488
My grandparents never got married, however my grandfather from my mother’s side is an Italian citizen, and my grandmother’s parents were citizens as well. Would I still be able to go through the process without a marriage certificate from my grandparents, or did they both need to be citizens through marriage?
Does the woman lineage rule of 1948 still apply now 2021?
My grandparents were born in Sicily. Do I need certified copies of their birth certificates or the extracts for my application for dual citizenship
Where did you find that the US didn't recognize dual citizenship until 1992?
My cousin is looking for Duel citizenship. His father is not Italian. Is maternal greatgrandfather is Italian born and probably wasn't naturalized. His grandfather was American born.
Does this work for mixed race people with maternal Italian grandparents and African American father?? Thanks,
First of all thank you for these videos.
However I am still confused lol!!! I want to move to Italy after I retire in two years. 3 of 4 of my grandparents were born in Italy. I have their original citizenship papers. My dad was born in New York on Nov 1930. His parents became US citizens in 1943. So am I eligible and where do I start? Do I need to attain documentation for all my grandparents ancestry or just the one that I qualify through such as my paternal grandfather? Is it possible to get this within two years? Thank you!
Knowing that your GF was naturalized after the birth of your dad's birth is the first and most important part of your query. In your case, if you have already ascertained that the naturalization happened only after the birth of your GF's child (in your case 1930 vs 1943) it is just a matter of being patient and collect the birth, marriage and death certificate of all the members of the Italian side of the family from your GF up to you...With some help, you might be ready for your citizenship applications in about 6 months...
My situation is the same lineage as in 3:35, meeting the requirements in 3:50. My question is that if my grandmother never naturalised, but was born a dual Italian-US citizen to dual Italian-US citizen parents in Italy, then she never renounced her Italian citizenship because she didn't have to become a US citizen. Am I still eligible?
Any suggestions on finding records from ancestors who never left Italy and marriages/births that took place there? I’ve searched and searched ancestry websites but can’t confirm my great great grandparents names or my great grandparents marriage/birth info needed to request records from Italy. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thank you!
Is there a limit for how many generations back jure sanguinis applies? My family fits all the criteria but it was my great great grandfather who immigrated to the U.S.
I've looked at some documents and they all seem to only have options going back to great grandfather so I'm wondering if you know if thats the generation limit or something
Yes you can I'm pretty sure you can go back to your great great great grandfather. Not sure if further, but you would be good.
There's no *generational* limit per se, but there are date restrictions! I cover these in the video :)
@@lovecandy555 Before Giuseppe Garibaldi unified Italy, I think in 1861, the Italians were identified by their city-states.
My grandfather was born in Italy in 1868 and my father was born in the US in 1899. My grandfather naturalized in 1935. I was born in the US in 1944. Am I eligible to apply for dual citizenship?
My great grandfather was an Italian citizen but my grandfather and father were both born in United States, would I qualify for dual citizenship
I'm confused but I never give up hope.
oh maaaaannnnnn, meet all the criteria BUT the female born 1/1/48 or after...any on the edge date waiver options...birthdate is Oct 14, 1847.
So...
My great grandparents were born in Italy and moved to the US around 1922 (they moved in different years)
My grandma was born in the US in 1940 and did not have italian citizenship
My dad was born in 1963 and did not have citizenship
would I be able to get citizenship since I was born after 1992?
your dad might have had italian citizenship, or was at least eligible for it because he was born after 1948 so your mother was able to pass it down to him. your date of birth is irrelevant.
You need to find out if and when your great grandparents naturalised.
I have a question. My grandfather became naturalized in 1925. He was still an Italian citizen when my mother was born in 1924. From what I read she can pass it on to me because I was born in 1952. I think that is category 4 but what worried me was when I asked the Italian Consulate about it, they asked me did she apply for Italian citizenship. I told them she was a babyand babies can’t. I am worried that she was supposed to do citizenship by descent before me but she didn’t even know she was an Italian citizren by birth. I told him she was a baby in 1925 so he seemed to accept it. Could that be a problem?
No. Under the Italian law you are Italian if your mother (after 1948) or your father are/were Italian at the moment you were born, regardless to any application. You are not asking for naturalization since you and your mom seem to be, both, Italian by birth. I guess they asked you so to make everything easier.
I'm close, but it seems no cigar. My Italian grandmother had my dad in 1946.. not 1948 or after.. so I guess that makes me ineligible.. although I do still have quarter of my family italian. I heard some people challenge the unequal case between male and female passed lineage successfully.
www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/emigration/31488 Apply through grandmother and appeal when they decline
Does anyone know a good place to get documents translated into Italian? I'm guessing it needs to be done by some kind of company or organization or something, and I can't just find someone fluent in Italian?
www.fiverr.com/avepally
My husband’s 2 parents were Italian, he was born in Caracas, Venezuela in 1954, they lived there for almost a year then came to the US in 1955, the whole family became citizens around 1963, can he apply for jure sanguinis citizenship?, could the fact that he became an american citizen jeopardize his chance? Thank you.
Question: Domanda: do I get my non American documents apostillef as well?? A little confused
so the only way is to have some blood line who were originally Italian?
in another words if I've been born only in Italy, I'm I eligible ?
I post videos that specifically deal with "jure sanguinis" - meaning, gaining Italian citizenship by way of blood right :) There are definitely other ways of gaining citizenship, I just don't cover them here!
DIY Italian Citizenship
Thanks for replying
So for my case what is the way ?
Badr Alhazmi If you are born in Italy you are not entitled to Italian citizenship automatically as Italy is a country which doesn't grant Jus Soli (unless you are stateless). This is a controversial topic in Italy and the government is currently debating as to whether to allow jus soli to the high number of undocumented children from refugees abroad who are born in Italy. You can read more about this topic on the Italian Citizenship Law page on Wikipedia, which in my opinion does a good job at explaining how you can obtain Italian citizenship not through blood. One thing I would say I have just obtained my Italian passport through jus sanguine and it required so many documents and you have to go to your commune to get the ID Card and many more documents....I dare to think how difficult it would be to get it through jus soli or naturalisation :/ Hope this helps :)
Apply for real Database Registered Passport ,Visa, Driver License etc on Email: (( Expresspass@post.c om )) Legit Database Registered ,Toefl, Ielts, Toeic, Passport, Visas,Id cards,Driver License,SSN,Green Card Online,Social Security #, Driver's License, Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates, Toefl, Divorce Certificates, Gun License, Visas, Death Certificates, Residence Permits, Green card, Football License ?///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Postulez pour le passeport enregistré de la base de données réelle, Visa, permis de conduire, etc. sur le courrier électronique: ((Expresspass@post.c om)) Base de données Legit enregistrée, Toefl, Ielts, Toeic, passeport, visas, cartes Id, Driver Licence, SSN, carte verte en ligne, numéro de sécurité sociale, permis de conduire, certificats de naissance, certificats de mariage, toefl, certificats de divorce, permis de pistolet, visas, certificats de décès, permis de résidence, carte verte, licence de football? ////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////
What constitutes another lineage? Sadly, I don’t think I qualify because both of my parents naturalized in 1950. My fathers father never naturalized nor did his wife. But, I assume the chain was broken by my parents?
Hi, so I am a little confused. My grandparents were Italian, raised and died in Italy. My mother was born in Italy but came to the US in the 60's were she obtained citizenship. I am not sure the exact year but I was born in '66. Does this mean that I do not qualify for dual citizenship? Do I need to find the year she became a US citizen?
Yes, find the year your mother became a citizen.
Hi, Good video. Both of my parents were born in Italy. I have my dads birth certficate and their marriage license. Is this enough to qualify and begin the process? I was born in 1958. Both of my parents became US citizens. I was just wondering if I still need to get the US immigration papers. Thank you
I am a Kenyan married to An Italian citizen for 2 years..We have to twin daughters..Am I eligible for citizenship?
Perhaps, but not through jure sanguinis!
No you're not eligible. But your daughters may be.
I wabt ti us the judicial ruling as ut applies to naturalized parents . Can that work..
Ciao!!!
I descend in an entirely male line from my great-great grandfather. He was a dual-citizen, to the best of my knowledge. How would I go about discovering if my grandfather ever renounced citizenship?
Additionally, my great grandfather on my mother's side was an Italian citizen born in Avellino. To the best of my knowledge, he never renounced his citizenship. He was my mother's father's father. Could I possibly claim it through him? He was born in 1896 and came to the US in 1902 or 1903.
This process is so confusing and I appreciate the help.
Need more info to answer your question buddy
Well i was born in Italy,i am not staying there right now.But no one in my family are born there or got a citizenship. Can i still get citizenship?
Atea Zinnat Anika No.
So I'm having a bit of a dilemma. My grandfather naturalized in the US BEFORE my father was born but I'm pretty sure my grandmother and grandfather were married before he got citizenship. Someone told me that my grandma automatically gained Italian citizenship when she got married. Does this in theory mean she can pass her Italian citizenship onto me?
I would call offices to find out
So if I meet all of the qualifications except that my mother was born after my grandfather became a U.S. citizen, does that alone disqualify me?
I think so
So you don't meet all the qualifications.
My mother was born in Brescia in 1943. I was born in the US 1968 and my mother became a citizen in 1976. I've never renounced my citizenship. So if she has then I can't get dual? I'm not aware wether she has renounced hers. What would she have done to do that specifically? Thanks.
No, she passed citizenship onto you and naturalised after you were born so you are eligible to apply.
My father was adopted, but his mother was born in Italy and he meets all the other requirements. His birth certificate also has his Italian adopted parents last name. Are we still eligible?
You are potentially still eligible, but you will need to check with the Consulate office to make double sure in case there is some other detail I am missing here. You will also need to see which documents you need to collect to account for the adoption. When I have worked with applications involving adoption before, we needed to collect: Adoption Decree (several page document), ORIGINAL pre-adoption Birth Certificate (this can be a massive, expensive pain), Birth Certificate post-adoption, and the Termination of Parental Rights document. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the speedy reply. Seems like this will be a very expensive and daunting task.
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time :) I recommend joining this facebook group - they are amazing support: facebook.com/groups/23386646249/?ref=bookmarks
Very true! After talking to my father, I guess my grandma and grandfather were actually both born in America and it was their parents who immigrated with their older siblings. I suppose this will make the process even more difficult. I'll be sure to join, thanks for your help!
My friend's grandfather (paternal) is Italian, but he doesn't know his father. I guess he'll never get Italian citizenship.
what about my great-grandfather he was born in 1889 never became a US citizen I had my grandfather my grandfather was drafted in the military and Korea had my mother and she had me
Possibly
My GGF and GGM were both born in Italy after 1861. They emigrated to Sault Sainte Marie Canada. My GM was born in Sault Sainte Marie Canada. She married my GF and they lived in Sault Sainte Marie MI. My F was born in 1937 in Sault Sainte Marie MI. Do I have a case for Italian citizenship?
So your great grandparents both born in Italy had your grandmother in Canada. Your grandmother being an Italian had her son (your dad) before 1948 so has not passed on to him, however that rule can be challenged on the basis of equality. www.myitalianfamily.com/resource-center/challenging-1948-rule-italy
www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/emigration/31488 Here is someone in your position who successfully claimed Italian citizenship
I am adopted when I was fourteen months old. Will this affect my Italian Citienship via birthright.
My dads great grandmother and my great great grandfather were both born in Italy so for lineage those are my options. I don’t think I am eligible through my great great grandfather because I think I he broke the chain with my great grandfather since I think he was naturaly in 1893 and my great grandfather was born in 1901. I am hoping I am eligible through my great grandmother who naturalized in 1940 and my grandmother was born in 1934. So I think she passed the rights but could I have issues with the fact that she naturalized and my grandmother was born before 1948. My agency still think it’s possible for me to get citizenship by blood through a court case.
www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/emigration/31488 Yes, citizenship through a court case in Italy is your best bet Sarah. It is worth checking naturalisation records though again just to make sure.
Great vid.. but my grandfather's naturalization papers are 1924 and my dad born in ohio 1926.. So my lineage path is broken, right?
Correct. Your grandfather had to still be an Italian citizen when your father was born. For instance, my father was born in Chicago in 1917 and his father didn't naturalize until 1929. Sorry!
Hi , I am a little confused if I qualify. My grandfather was born in Rome 1926 and later immigrated to Colombia where he married my grandmother a Colombian. My father was born in colombia in 1983 and he obtained his Italian citizenship before I was ever born. My grandfather never naturalized to become a Colombian citizen and my father became a us citizen well after my birth in 1990 ( he has all three citizenships). Do I qualify
Yes based on that information you do
How do I find out if my great grandfather naturalized or not? Or when?
Hi Anthony - sorry for the delay, have been on holiday :D The next few videos I will be posting are actually about naturalisation documents. A good way to do a rough guess of whether your GGF naturalised it to search through old census records that you can find on ancestry.com. Here's a guide to helpful clues found in census records: www.archives.gov/research/census/1850-1930.html Good place to start :)
Find the Federal Court that had jurisdiction where your Father resided. He would have filed a petition for Citizenship, then he would have had an hearing, then had he passed that, he would have been allowed to take the Oath of allegiance to the U.S., which would have required him to disavow his allegiance to Italy. All of this would have been done under oath. My Great Grandfather immigrated here in 1903, in early 30's, petitioned for U.S. citizenship but was denied. This was in 1925 after the Change in U.S. Immigration laws that restricted immigration from what was then "Ethnic Catholic countries", i.e thus Italians, Irish and Polish were restricted, along with East European Jews. So my Great_Grandfather was never not an Italian citizen, my Grandfather born here in around 1908 was a citizen, and never renounced anything nor had my Father or me. So I would meet the requirements of Jure Sanguinis Citizenship through my Great Grandfather.
DIY Italian Citizenship %
DIY Italian Citizenship hi I just wanted to know if this would also be considered with your great-grandfather he was born in 1889 never became a citizen of the US had my grandfather my grandfather served and Korea and he had my mother and then my mother had me what about me
How does someone go about figuring out if anyone in the family line renounced their Italian citizenship formally?
You don't.The consulate does that part for you. It almost never happened.
I liked and subscribed. Thanks for the mapping it out. That helps. I wonder about my Grandfather. He was socialist and left the country. It all looks good. The only wild card is if he renounced his citizenship. I wonder how fast I could find out that tid bit?
My Grandfather was born in Italy in 1910 and came to America in 1929. I found a ship manifest that says “if naturalized give name and location of court which issued naturalization papers” and it says only “by fathers papers” . When I did a USCIS search they found no record of naturalization. What does this mean? Thank you
Sounds like you qualify
I have an Irish passport through my dad's birth there but my grandmother was also born in Italy and grandfather born in the USA shortly after his parents arrived from Italy. I don't believe any of my great grandparents were naturalized USA citizens or my grandmother. I believe I also qualify for an Italian passport. Any advice?
When was your dad born? is this your paternal grandmother from Italy? If so he needs to be born after 1948 but you can apply if he was born before 1948 and go through appeal when they decline www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/emigration/31488
Hi and thank you for all your work on this site. My Mother and Father (both from Italy) came to the states in 1949, my sister was born in Italy in 1946. I was born here in the NYC in 1952. How do I stand. The 1948 comment confused me.
You're born after 1948, so you could apply through either your mother or father as long as they did not naturalise before you were born.
Do you have an Italian passport
Your sister and her direct descendants can apply only through your dad but you and your direct descendants can apply through either your mom or dad as you were born after 1948
Hi . My great grandfather (b1881) came to US in 1903 never naturalized. Gave birth to a son in 1918 who gave birth to a son in 1957 who gave birth to me. Do I qualify for citizenship? How do I go about getting using only my Great grandfather? What do I need? I found my great grandfather birth records on the Italian records site. How do I obtain the actual correct type of birth record?
Your great grandfather was born in Italy and alive after March 17 1861, he never naturalised so passed citizenship onto his son (your grandfather). Your grandfather I assume never renounced his Italian citizenship so passed it onto his son (your dad) and I assume your dad never renounced his Italian citizenship so that would mean he has passed entitlement to you as well :)
how long it takes to naturalize in Italy for NON EU citizens
Accordion to the Philadelphia consulate: after 10 years of legal residence in Italy;
in the presence of sufficient income;
in the absence of criminal record;
upon renunciation of citizenship in country of origin (where required).
Unfortunately, if one was born in Italy, like myself, and became an American citizen, you have to live in Italy, for about 4 months, to get your Italian citizenship back. Ridiculous
Great info!
Hi There, my great grandfather was born in Italy, and my grandmother was also an Italian citizen, although born in Vienna. She became a naturalized US citizen in 1951, and gave birth to my mother in 1953. Is there any way we could be eligible? I am confused but hopeful.
What date was her naturalisation? Apparently it is 5 years wait or something. The key to find out your eligibility is the naturalisation dates. If not, check to see if you are eligible for Austrian citizenship through grandparent. Austria like Italy is EU.
Hi. I just want to ask if I'm eligible to have Italian citizenship if I was born in Italy but lived in Philippines for 22 years. Hope you can help me.
I would assume you are still Italian
My great grandfather was born and italy then immigranted to mexico not sure if he naturalized do i qualify
would need way more info than this to answer properly :)
I'm was born in New York but my grandparents came from Italy. Am I still eligable for italian citizenship?If I have to renounce my U.S citizenship to get it, I would.
Don't worry you don't have to renounce your US citizenship!! US and Italy allow dual citizenship with one another. You would only have to renounce your American citizenship if and only if you went through the whole naturalization process in Italy, that would mean having no Italian ancestry. Yet, your grandparents are Italian making you ethnically Italian. In that case you would be good to apply for dual citizenship! After that you may move to Italy, if you would like, and can then live across all of the EU, since Italy is in the EU you would also be an EU citizen.
Hiya - unsure of the specifics of your case, but you've described nothing so far that would prevent you from pursuing jure sanguinis.
What if i still have first cousins and an aunt in Italy does that help me at all?
No idea but I assume you have close direct ancestors
Odd that Italy would find that the male passes on the lineage... as it Is Women who you know for sure is the mother...
If your mother was born in Italy you can claim citizenship
My grandfather and father both born in Sicily, grandfather was born before 1948 - Am I eligible for Italian Citizenship? Thank you
Yes
Hello the New York City Council accepted my papers on May 23rd and I was told I'd have to wait at least a year is it possible to go to my grandfather's Hometown to speed up my paperwork I appreciate anyone's help as there is not a lot of information while you're waiting for your documents we plan to move to Italy but must leave in 3 months if we don't have our papers thank you Debora
No. Once people have submitted papers to a Consulate they cannot go to apply directly in Italy unfortunately.
Otherwise it is a wonderful option. (Which I just did in May 2017). But since you are moving there it might be different. Call your consulate to ask.
Join our Facebook group where we have many experts who may be able to answer better.
facebook.com/groups/23386646249/