CSB Safety Video: Static Sparks Explosion in Kansas

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  • On July 17, 2007, explosions and fire erupted at the Barton Solvents facility in Valley Center, Kansas, north of Wichita. The incident led to the evacuation of thousands of residents and resulted in projectile damage offsite, as well as extensive damage to the facility.
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  • @ltr4300
    @ltr4300 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1174

    I don't know why I like these...I'm not in the industry, I have no reason to need this info...but I find it fascinating. Well produced, kind of like watching Seconds From Disaster without all the dramatic filler. Glad I found them.

    • @101Volts
      @101Volts 8 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      +L TR I like to watch these too, I think it's out of seeking understanding. Mainly speaking I was angry while watching a King of the Hill episode "Propane Boom" which had a propane explosion, (the employee at fault ignored a warning) and thought I'd educate myself...
      I also like watching videos like "Signal 30".

    • @noahbolanowski5001
      @noahbolanowski5001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hahaha same, its fascinating

    • @informativt
      @informativt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      These are good because they also teach you a state of mind. These accidents are not random, and the general awareness will prevent all sorts of accidents. So, don't feel ashamed. Be proud of being interested in work safety.

    • @motherlove202
      @motherlove202 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      L TR Yeah, same here. I also associate these videos to Modern Marvel's "Engineering Disasters" series.

    • @mr.anderson9938
      @mr.anderson9938 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They are well done videos, I have also watched every forensic files made.

  • @ensignmjs7058
    @ensignmjs7058 5 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    Fascinating. Everyone did everything correctly according to the standards at the time and this still occurred.

    • @JNDlego57
      @JNDlego57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      Ensign MJS Honestly, this is the “best” kind of accident. Everybody did what they were supposed to, and nobody was breaking the laws, yet something still happened. That is a true accident. All these other accidents that are from procedure deviations, negligence, budget cuts, safety risks, etc., I consider those crimes, not accidents. Someone broke the rules and as a result people got hurt or killed.

    • @lackedpuppet9022
      @lackedpuppet9022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@JNDlego57 It's reminiscent of the Arkema Hurricane Harvey incident. Everyone did everything they could but it just wasn't enough.

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@JNDlego57 Yeah. definitely humbling, though. I by default, tend to think of accidents that happened because of what you mentioned, as happening in places like Pakistan or India, or "back in the day< in the USA. Not, in America and not in my own lifetime.

    • @oneofmany1087
      @oneofmany1087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man made! Bad parts made in china

    • @solarleaf2029
      @solarleaf2029 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      WOAH

  • @paulmvn5431
    @paulmvn5431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Well crap. This really wasn't anyone's fault.

    • @pizzablender
      @pizzablender 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      But we can prevent it.

    • @MrDaniyalAh
      @MrDaniyalAh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      The manufacturer of that float. Should've added a grounding jumper across that hinge

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@MrDaniyalAh: Maybe so, but I doubt that it was glaringly obvious (without hindsight) that the continuity from the float to the grounded cable would be interrupted for long enough to pose a risk.

    • @Chichimee
      @Chichimee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was my fault

    • @ArnaudMEURET
      @ArnaudMEURET 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fetchstixRHD Sounds like utter incompetence when your job is to design tanks for such explosive liquids that are well known to build up static electricity charges! A whole damn stainless steel mesh should float on the entire surface as some liquids can build up charges spots on their own surface.

  • @pigeon853
    @pigeon853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    Video: the switching of hoses caused air bubbles to flow into the tank.
    Me at home laying in bed: rookie mistake

    • @debicongram5546
      @debicongram5546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's funny.

    • @prezidenttrump5171
      @prezidenttrump5171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@debicongram5546 Also true, considering some people would think that without being self aware enough to realize how dumb they sound LOL!

    • @maxmyzer9172
      @maxmyzer9172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lmao
      dunning kruger effect got me like that

    • @notoriouswhitemoth
      @notoriouswhitemoth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's amazing - and a bit terrifying - to consider that a lot of these disasters could be prevented by fail-safes that are built into most home HVAC systems

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So, vapor lock, then? A problem easily solved in a car by a fuel pump, as opposed to gravity?

  • @intechtel
    @intechtel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    I work in I.T. and am about as detached from these industries as you could be, but still can't stop watching these videos.

    • @mjallen1308
      @mjallen1308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Adam Johnson internet data can mix with viral videos to produce an ignitable bullshit vapor. Make sure all of the comments on the videos are grounded so they don’t start a bullshit explosion.

    • @mirakcb7
      @mirakcb7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I work in I.T also, make sure you always wear your ground strap and connect it when working on a server so it won't blow up due to electric static discharge, gases from the bullshit flowing around the work area can ignite just like the other guy said.

    • @marctronixx
      @marctronixx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm a 30 year cameraman working in Hollywood and am about as detached from these industries as you are, but just as you are, can't stop watching. :)

    • @kenosabi
      @kenosabi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same!! I also have a pipe phobia.

    • @pabloescobar9337
      @pabloescobar9337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm also in IT!

  • @mirandabri834
    @mirandabri834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Can you imagine the type of investigative work it must have taken to figure this problem out. Wow is all i can say.....

    • @JNDlego57
      @JNDlego57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Miranda Bri I guarantee the linkage wasn’t even considered an issue until the investigation hit a wall and they had to start looking in to something.

    • @snoopdogie187
      @snoopdogie187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Especially with everything blown apart, that had to be some really good detective work. I'm really grateful that this organization doesn't give up on investigations until they get to the correct answer.

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JNDlego57 Well there really could only be a very narrow circumstance as to the cause, they know a vehicle didnt hit the tank, the tank didnt corrode and fail, no one was smoking, no nearby heat source, so really the only possible cause left is something electrical, in which case any monitoring devices, electric pumps, electric valves, floats, temperature, pressure devices and meters would be looked at hard

    • @Mrdestiny17
      @Mrdestiny17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It just proves how much the CSB cares about what they do, as well as how knowledgeable on the topic they are

  • @partycat2921
    @partycat2921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I've watched enough of these to qualify for some type of certification.

    • @Anonymous-ru2wk
      @Anonymous-ru2wk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      USCSB Amateur TH-cam Investigator's Association

    • @markmcgoveran6811
      @markmcgoveran6811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You get the best certification of all you get to be in charge of getting yourself out of a place and getting laughed at a dozen times for that one time that made all the difference.

  • @xPROxSNIPExMW2xPOWER
    @xPROxSNIPExMW2xPOWER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I feel bad about the outcome, but CSB absolutely blows me away at how detailed and informative these explanations are for even the layman

    • @Neely26tv
      @Neely26tv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like one other commenter mentioned it's like the forensic files episodes they go into great detail all the way down to the microscopic micron and convicting a criminal the same thing here they go all the way down to the molecules and how different molecules corrode the materials of the tanks pipes or valves such as this case .

  • @johnanders8861
    @johnanders8861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    What they do now is that they stretch a copper grounding line from the float to the automatic tank gauge tape, so they are both grounded

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, but that's only as good as the $15 an hour boy who bothers the even check it once a month to make sure it's even functioning any more!

  • @peasley9
    @peasley9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    It's like as I keep watching these, they keep getting more complex and seemingly far-fetched. As a chemical engineer myself, this is both entertaining and informative.

    • @noahater5785
      @noahater5785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      if there's one thing I learned about these accidents, they all share one thing in common: how to accidentally make a bomb

  • @gorillaau
    @gorillaau 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    It must be tough to come up with a cause when all evidence has been burnt to the ground or spread of over a large area. Kudos to the investigators.

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am reasonably sure that they looked into other tank setups made by the same manufacturer, to see how the mechanism worked and look into possible air-gas mixtures prone to ignition by static electricity, even when the liquids in itself are considered non-flammable.

  • @bobcarroll55
    @bobcarroll55 10 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Refinery tanks usually have a CO2 blanket while loading.

    • @anasnoor1108
      @anasnoor1108 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Bob Carroll
      The real mistake was the air ingress while switching over the suction hose from one chamber to the other.
      The standard procedure is to shut off the pump; isolating the in service chamber; switching over the hose; opening the valve and then switching the pump ON again.

    • @MrRedeyedJedi
      @MrRedeyedJedi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      C02 blankets: for a peaceful night's sleep! Get yours now!

    • @hyvahyva
      @hyvahyva 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Dry nitrogen works too-- the only gotcha is you must prevent people from trying to enter a space flooded with nitrogen. There's a csb video on that too

    • @rrknl5187
      @rrknl5187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nitrogen is good as well.

    • @MrDaniyalAh
      @MrDaniyalAh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hyvahyva Same issue with CO2

  • @HillbillyRednecking
    @HillbillyRednecking 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Crazy how a small 3 inch ground strap could of prevented such a large disaster

  • @tubester4567
    @tubester4567 6 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    omg screw that, the fuel can ignite from a spark without metal floats inside. Just from the fluid , Thats scary.

    • @alucardhellsing1037
      @alucardhellsing1037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Not the fuel but vapour and air mixture.

    • @pauldow1648
      @pauldow1648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alucardhellsing1037 yes. Remember these chemical substances can exist in different chemical associations with different stability issues.
      At different temps at different pressures in different mixtures with other chemicals. During turbulence as seen here . even in time- that is if process is rushed the chemical may not have time to remain stable.

    • @NickTymczasowy
      @NickTymczasowy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      if enough high voltage builds up in fluid, then spark can jump from fluid nearby wall (but not touching directly), to the metal wall

    • @rghall57
      @rghall57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I worked for a chemical company and we had nitrogen blankets on all our tanks.

  • @RainJetSprinklers
    @RainJetSprinklers 15 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    So brilliant! Who would have thought that the linkage was the problem?

    • @hyvahyva
      @hyvahyva 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I would have designed that with the float bonded to the tape. There's no need for it having that loose hinge.

    • @TheLukasDirector
      @TheLukasDirector 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hyvahyva Material fatigue in the tape. It could break over time.

  • @carlpotter5539
    @carlpotter5539 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Great job fellows. Worked in the industry and appreciate the efforts, time and care of the Safety Departments.

  • @lezlienewlands1337
    @lezlienewlands1337 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Currently binge watching these. Don't know why, but these are fascinating.

  • @milesbalthazor1382
    @milesbalthazor1382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I live in Valley Center, and we had to evacuate for about three days... crazy stuff

    • @rinx34
      @rinx34 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was selling books door to door that day. I was outside not very far away. What a memories :)

    • @jakehildebrand1824
      @jakehildebrand1824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rinx34 ahh, fellow kansans.

    • @ssbn6175
      @ssbn6175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rinx34 "Ma'am, I'm not letting you out this door until you sign up for this complete Executive Premier leatherbound gilt-edged encyclopedia set including addenda and quarterly updates."

  • @jerryhu9005
    @jerryhu9005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Damn, seems like even the smallest thing can cause shit to go down

  • @danconser6709
    @danconser6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the plants where I worked, when a flammable mixture was possible to be formed from a storage tank just breathing or operating normally, we would safe the atmosphere with a nitrogen pad to prevent the in-breathing of air and appropriate alarms /interlocks added. Some facilities safe equipment by using rich gas, such as Natural Gas (where it is appropriate). In any case, the flammability limits of a system need to be well understood and addressed by standard operating procedures. From the discussion, it appears it was not considered how air could be introduced during truck unloading operations. You NEVER want to allow operation within the flammable envelope, because there is no way to guarantee safety at that point. This is why any proposed procedure needs to be reviewed by operating personnel and validated to ensure it can and is done the way it is supposed to occur. Perhaps if an unloading truck was actually watched, it could have been uncovered that the way it was being done actually allowed the possibility of introducing unacceptable amounts of air, or that the range of vapor pressure for the solvent was not enough to guarantee a non-flammable condition.

  • @GotYourWallet
    @GotYourWallet 10 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Excelent detective work.

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chronox5 1:34. Believes most likely happened. Hardly excellent.

    • @youtubeisbroken241
      @youtubeisbroken241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They can only go off assumption here. All best practice standards were followed. They had to find a variable that was plausible. The truth is we will never KNOW what happened here.

  • @AceSeptre
    @AceSeptre 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I believe there was also a fire at a Barton Solvents plant in Des Moines, Iowa that was also caused by a static spark.

    • @jessvagnar4957
      @jessvagnar4957 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Nick Gillotti I'm sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples! Be safe.

    • @ronjohnson303
      @ronjohnson303 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The fire in des moines was caused by failure to attach a ground wire before transfer

  • @servright7916
    @servright7916 7 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Can you imagine what could happen if there were no regulations? I too am fascinated by the science of it all.

    • @006hetzkin5
      @006hetzkin5 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @TheLouisianan
      @TheLouisianan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It would be like the early 20th century when workers died and were replaced by the next guy that was just happy to have a job.

    • @artgoat
      @artgoat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      We won't have to imagine it. Trump is proposing a budget for 2019 with ZERO funding for the CSB and OSHA.

    • @TheLouisianan
      @TheLouisianan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@artgoat I almost thought you posted this to just be a troll, but I just googled this and am kinda shocked. For someone that touts himself as the defender of the American worker, he sure dosen't understand that the CSB makes regulations so workers and people outside of manufacturing facilities don't die. How cruel.

    • @dermottmcsorley8641
      @dermottmcsorley8641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well it looks like we will found out.

  • @quinn2826
    @quinn2826 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is very useful. Thank you. Will keep this in mind.

  • @artgoat
    @artgoat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The sad part is that this is not the only tank-filling explosion at a Barton Solvents facility. There was another very similar incident at a Barton Solvents facility in Iowa, just a few months later in October 2007. In this case, they tried to do everything right, and got caught by something they never expected.

  • @dylanfrost191
    @dylanfrost191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember this as a child, I was only 7 at the time. All the way in Kansas City Missouri, we were told to stay inside and not to breathe as much as possible if being outside was a necessity

  • @numanmoodi2296
    @numanmoodi2296 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    these videos are very good examples to create awareness about this chemicals

  • @Bloated_Tony_Danza
    @Bloated_Tony_Danza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    VM&P Naptha! That’s the substance that got me interested in petroleum. I was making my own lighter and I initially used alcohol as fuel. When I’d show my friends my lighter, I could never get it to light. Then I found a can of VM&P Naptha, I didn’t know what it was, but “DANGER FLAMMABLE” was written all over it, and that gave me an idea. I poured a little bit into my little lighter and WOWWWW. It burned brighter, hotter, longer, AND easier too. Plus, it had the loveliest smell. I couldn’t believe it. I was overcome with joy by the “discovery” of this new wonder-fuel! From that day on I became obsessed with trying to understand what that liquid was made from, and how exactly it worked. Now I even have a little bottle of genuine crude oil haha

  • @jogandsp
    @jogandsp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always nice to see one of these videos where no one died

  • @hoppy6437
    @hoppy6437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This makes more now. If the liquid was a poor conductor and it was splashing across the top of the float, then the float would be poorly grounded because the liquid forms a barrier between it and the loose cable without that extra grounding strap.

  • @eswarbevara6064
    @eswarbevara6064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful and informative 👍🏼

  • @prabhun84
    @prabhun84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    These videos are very informative in learning hazardous situation in industries around us. I am impressed by the animation and great explanation provided on these videos. Thanks a ton for those who have investigated and prepared these videos. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Akira405
    @Akira405 16 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    very nice investigation
    thanks a lot

  • @tylerkinley268
    @tylerkinley268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is quite amazing that even at this point in human history, there is so much basic safety stuff that we just don't know. Good intentions, hard work, workers that care about doing things right... Nothing is enough when things just go wrong.

  • @Robert-xp4ii
    @Robert-xp4ii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing how much goes into every little part of these plants. I would've never known about all that grounding, nor that the vapors inside a gasoline tank are too rich to ignite. That really surprised me.

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically every vapor needs a certain mixture with a form of oxygen in order to sustain a fire after being lit, and when the mixture is just right it will cause an explosion.
      Vapors from flammable liquids can, in a closed environment also deplete the oxygen in thes space they take up.
      And then there are also gasses that as a gas burn very well with oxygen, but when pressurized are in liquid state and do not combust well, to sometimes not at all.

  • @spambot7110
    @spambot7110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the 60Hz AC arc sound effect they used for the ESD

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I know many people who have absolutely no clue what a static discharge sounds like (and especially don't know the duration of one), even though they sometimes are quick to ask when they find out you understand at least a basic concept of a couple of forms of electricity that "why it is that I sometimes feel like getting shocked from touching a metal doorpost or something?"
      When you explain to those people they've probably experienced a discharge up in the kilovolts range they look at you like "Uhu, nope, that can't be, I would be dead now if that was the case" :P.

    • @fungusenthusiast8249
      @fungusenthusiast8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dutch3DMaster i also am sometimes surprised at people's ignorance/being so uneducated about electricity. You hear the phrase "volts jolt current kills!" and the people who actually know anything about electricity are like "darn...smh"

  • @gammadelray1225
    @gammadelray1225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if they could flush the tanks with nitrogen or argon to get rid of the oxygen, and reduce the likelihood of an explosion that way. Might be a little more expensive, but not as expensive as loosing your entire inventory and reputation from an explosion...

  • @NIGHTSTALKER0069
    @NIGHTSTALKER0069 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching these videos. They are so well done

    • @Chichimee
      @Chichimee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 😊

  • @camohawk6703
    @camohawk6703 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i live in newton and saw this on the news the same day.

  • @NortelGeek
    @NortelGeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The float should have had a wire soldered to both the linkage and the float pivot. That would have caused the entire assembly to be grounded properly.

  • @GuyFromJupiter
    @GuyFromJupiter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another possible solution to static discharge from these liquids would be to design the tanks that contain them with lots of small metal protrusions into the liquid to greatly increase the surface area with bonded and grounded conductive materials (particularly towards the middle where normally there would be no contact at all) and largely prevent static buildup from even occurring.

  • @thetamimi
    @thetamimi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    -Proper spacing between the storage tanks, would have reduced the scale of the damage.
    -updating the unloading procedure to include purging the unloading hoses before lineup with proper isolation valves and vent valve (i.e. double block and bleed valves) to ensure no oxygen gas ingress to the tanks during unloading.
    -installing flame arrestors at the top of each tank.
    These from the top of my mind as examples for easy and cheap safety solutions.

  • @jiykhan
    @jiykhan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Informative.

  • @jamessmyth5949
    @jamessmyth5949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was missing was a flexible grounding cable between the float, the hinge and the float cable. The condition of the cable would need to be checked periodically for damage otherwise if the ground cable broke and not repaired it would lead to a static explosion condition forming again.

  • @cjespers
    @cjespers ปีที่แล้ว

    I like these videos too. Thanks for sharing!

  • @paulpz04
    @paulpz04 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These videos are a really good thing for people who work in these types of environments because theres not really a way to properly address all the possibilities for freak accidents in safety protocols/handbooks..they would be so long theyd be unreadable if even attempted so i think that owners, CEOs, safety men, etc.. should be using these vids as food for thought training and guidance for their employees..thanks to whoever is behind the production of these vids you are doing someone out there a huge favor i assure you

    • @labuuush5139
      @labuuush5139 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I work at Barton solvents and I am still amazed at this

  • @Gkuljian
    @Gkuljian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:50 finally explains to me why I didn't get blown up when a spark from a fuel sender unit sparked while I was looking right into the tank.

  • @nightwolf4207
    @nightwolf4207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Wichita and remember this it was one year before I graduated crazy

  • @SilveniumTheDrifter
    @SilveniumTheDrifter ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish you guys added news report video clips, scene photos and such to your new videos like these old ones! I really liked that about these old videos.

    • @jeffblack7711
      @jeffblack7711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was the mobile home struck by the tank lid.. it's not a mystery that the entire tank farm blew up. The tank farm was very tightly packed and if one blew up they all went

    • @jeffblack7711
      @jeffblack7711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Space out the tanks would have been a good idea

    • @SilveniumTheDrifter
      @SilveniumTheDrifter ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffblack7711 Oh, most definitely. There was a recent ignition at a fertilizer plant where I live; same thing was going on with everything being packed/stored very closely together. as well. It prevented the fire from being put out for much longer than it should have taken and burned for a few days.
      Being fertilizer, though, it was pretty far from any residential areas....or they woulda been, yanno.... knee deep in the "stuff".

  • @GrandpappyG
    @GrandpappyG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just took a osha 30 class and now I’m watching all of these video

  • @dellawrence4323
    @dellawrence4323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So it was a design fault, not a mistake or bad practice by the company or the guy filling the tank.

  • @sciencefictionisreal1608
    @sciencefictionisreal1608 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do I love these so much?

  • @noahater5785
    @noahater5785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another hidden hazard: don’t place storage tanks full of flammable liquid close to each other, or else you have a massive raging inferno from the other adjacent storage tanks going up in flames and pouring their contents into the fire.

  • @frankiejohnson2702
    @frankiejohnson2702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thinking about pursuing a career in risk managment. Thanks csb

  • @s0nnyburnett
    @s0nnyburnett 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had no idea this could even happen. Scary to think the liquid itself can cause a discharge.

  • @jamielacourse7578
    @jamielacourse7578 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I was a kid I recall the older tankers would drag a chain or strap. Now they don't. My son asked me this and I don't know the answer. Can anyone explain this for us? Thanks.

    • @MatthijsvanDuin
      @MatthijsvanDuin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "You've probably seen cars driving along with little black strips dangling down from the back touching the road. A car's metal body, riding on rubber tires, builds up a static charge as it drives down the road with air rubbing past it. The theory is that strips like this prevent static electricity from building up on the car body, reducing radio interference, electric shocks when you open the doors, and car sickness. Do these strips work? No, they're entirely useless. In the 1980s, English trading standards officers prosecuted a company for selling anti-static strips because they simply do not work as described: car tires are 10 million times more effective at transmitting static charges to Earth (New Scientist, 4 July 1985, p.63)" - www.explainthatstuff.com/howantistaticcoatingswork.html
      That would explain why these devices have disappeared.

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What Matthijs van Duin says is true, and it also was found that most of the uncomfortable sensations experienced by drivers getting out of their car was played into by these manufacturers.
      People were not getting a shock from their car (and trying to combat that effect by having the strips attached to their car or truck), but were discharging themselves to it due to rubbing on the sometimes extremely artificial materials used in car seat covers, some of which are known to be seriously prone to cause static chargers by rubbing other materials on them, like nylon.
      My parent's car has reasonably artificial materials used in the car seat covers, but we have long hired cars a lot and one time my brother was in one that he, at one point made a piece of wire for, that he soldered to a clip that clamped down firmly to a screwdriver he could hold, because even without moving a lot he would get a seriously painful discharge from touching the metal bodywork, so he decided to discharge himself continuously (he was a passenger by the way).

  • @xavierdegea7613
    @xavierdegea7613 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Congratulations very good and usefull to prevent electrostatic risk

  • @Erakius323
    @Erakius323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing that amazes me about these videos? I am from the U.K. Every time they show a wide pan shot, everything is low story and spread out. In the U.K? We either have country side where you can’t build, or big massive city’s. If one of these accidents happened in the U.K? It would inevitably be in a heavily built up area. The U.K is far more densely populated. Terrifying to think of how many more casualties that would cause.

  • @tamekkaknuth9612
    @tamekkaknuth9612 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the voice too. Its different and calm and unique. Opposite of me most times

  • @noahater5785
    @noahater5785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    moral of the story, don't have tanks with flammable and explosive liquids next to other tanks with flammable and explosive liquids or else you just made the world's largest incendiary bomb

  • @dufus2273
    @dufus2273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they have a much better understanding now. Why build the tanks that close together?

  • @johndope2695
    @johndope2695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    goddamn i love these csb videos im sorry for the accident and people who die but just to put the accident into a graphical perception is top notch

  • @leonidshapiro3066
    @leonidshapiro3066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toluene as nonconductive flammable liquid also causes a lot of static discharging accidents.

  • @cyrex686
    @cyrex686 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thata a scary one, wouldn't have thought that possible.

  • @atomicreptiliascreator738
    @atomicreptiliascreator738 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Derp City usually builds explosive non conductive tanks with tesla coil and steam valve to control the contents. Sometimes doesn't work properly, causing conductors to frie. [Meaning it starts melting and burning.]

  • @obfuscated3090
    @obfuscated3090 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Communities should zone all such facilities deep into unoccupied areas far away from residences. They cannot be made perfecly safe, so they should be where they can explode and burn without risk to people and structures.

    • @n5iln
      @n5iln 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      West, Texas.

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    scales under tanks to use weight to determine volume or qty eliminates the float complication; inert gas displacing air, the other.

    • @231mac
      @231mac 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pockets MacCartney That's just not feasible. Scales get inaccurate, degrade and fail. Can you imagine the process of replacing one?

    • @rogerscottcathey
      @rogerscottcathey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@231mac: you probably know better. Just a thought.

    • @231mac
      @231mac 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pockets MacCartney It would be awesome if it were reliable.

    • @rogerscottcathey
      @rogerscottcathey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@231mac: Was thinking in terms of a simple fulcrum & lever system which can be very robust and linked to hydraulics and electric- free telemetry. It doesnt have to be more precise than pounds or ounces.

    • @johndoyle4723
      @johndoyle4723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is perfectly possible and reasonably common to put tanks and vessels on load cells, but these tank farms are often multi use, with the solvents stored being different density, so different levels for the same weight. If it was always the same solvent, then OK, load cells or hydrostatic pressure sensors are possible. I prefer to use float level devices, or radar, and backed up with a high level detector.

  • @brendanwilliams7291
    @brendanwilliams7291 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would I be right in guessing that the tank farm was closed and demolished after the explosion? The ground may have been contaminated as a result.

  • @alomonwo
    @alomonwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The piano intro sets the somber mood of the video

  • @EgonFreeman
    @EgonFreeman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, if you give it some thought -- what _is_ a capacitor? Well, it's two electrically charged plates, separated by a dielectric (i.e. a typically liquid or gellous substance that doesn't conduct electricity, but can store a charge). So, in essence, such tanks are basically _huge capacitors._ It's not something you think about... but maybe we could learn something from that field as well? High-value capacitors typically feature _bleeder resistors_ to ensure they do not store a significant charge when not in operation...

    • @davidfuller581
      @davidfuller581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh. That's an interesting thought. Though I suppose just shorting it to ground could work too, especially when you aren't trying to use the capacitance for anything.

  • @peterhall6656
    @peterhall6656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Static electricity has been responsible for gyroscopic bearing failures in spacecraft. There are some detailed NASA and bearing manufacturer papers on the process and how to overcome it.

    • @joevignolor4u949
      @joevignolor4u949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That makes sense. Once the bearing surfaces accumulate some wear and in a weightless environment the gyro platform could start to float. Once that happens you could start to have tiny sparks occurring between the bearing surfaces. Once the bearing surfaces are damaged by the sparking the bearing will eventually fail.

    • @peterhall6656
      @peterhall6656 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joevignolor4u949Ithaco made the reaction wheels and this paper explains the background:esmats.eu/esmatspapers/pastpapers/pdfs/2017/bialke.pdf
      Coronal mass ejections created charge imbalances but as you will see it is highly technical and multidimensional and the geomagnetic storm hypothesis required a detailed statistical analysis. Ceramic bearings were the answer.

  • @crimony3054
    @crimony3054 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the Board determine a reason why the explosion had not occurred previously? The defective float-cable connection had always been there (a design flaw) and never caused an explosion before. Did the manufacturer assert that the tank was suitable for use with flammable non-conductive liquids?

    • @joevignolor4u949
      @joevignolor4u949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe the connection wasn't always flawed. At first it may have been tight enough to suppress the sparking. But over time mechanical wear may have accumulated in the float connection as the float rocked around while sitting on the top of the liquid. Eventually the connection started to loosen up. Once enough open space developed between the float components - kaboom!

  • @greedyfirstalgorithmlast26
    @greedyfirstalgorithmlast26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    *Defunding The Chemical Safety Board Is A Bad Idea And Likely To Increase Chemical Disasters*
    We are thought leaders in energy from the University of Houston.
    Unfortunately, the 2019 budget proposed by the Trump administration zeros out funding
    for the USCSB. Its requested fiscal-year funding, $12 million, is
    modest for a government agency. Likewise, the 2018 budget also proposed to defund the USCSB.
    This sustained effort reflects an ongoing de-emphasis on chemical
    safety - as a second example, Environmental Protection Agency
    Administrator Scott Pruitt has indefinitely delayed bans on the use of three hazardous chemicals, shown to be toxic to human health.
    Chemical production is an essential component of modern society. This
    does not mean that there is not room to improve practices in
    manufacturing, storing, and shipping chemicals, and in ensuring the
    safety of those who work in or live near chemical plants. The vantage of
    an independent group is crucial for identifying those aspects that can
    and should be improved.
    Defunding the USCSB, which provides this indispensable independent
    perspective, is likely to hinder efforts to identify the causes of
    chemical accidents - especially in low-regulation locales.
    Moreover, it is also likely to worsen our ability to respond in
    previously unforeseen events, such as the heavy flooding of Harvey, that
    may be exacerbated by climate change. Finally, it is likely to cost lives in future incidents.

    • @SuperAgentman007
      @SuperAgentman007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yohann Last Well I guess this is what Trump meant by cutting regulations to bring the job in

    • @cpt_nordbart
      @cpt_nordbart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I suspected they would do that. Safety isn't a burden it's a necessity. Because every accident is costing money one way or another. Especially serious accidents where people get hurt or killed.
      It's nothing to shrug of. I would write to your local politicians. This is important!

    • @jonmeray713
      @jonmeray713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cnn is Fakenews work one day in these places and see why the cab should be given complete legal authority of this shit.

  • @twizz420
    @twizz420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want a mustache ride from Don Holmstrom. I bet he gives good, safe mustache rides.

  • @TheWizardGamez
    @TheWizardGamez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lesson, put grounding wire on objects that may come apart

  • @glenblackbourn2224
    @glenblackbourn2224 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    even the solvent itself and cause a spark. wow looks like its very difficult to prevent.

    • @rrknl5187
      @rrknl5187 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep a slow but steady flow of CO2 or nitrogen into the top of the tank. No oxygen, no explosion.

  • @toryknotts8026
    @toryknotts8026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whenever nafta(?) is involved bad shit happens. It also had to be a sight to see that tank rocketing into the air along with those lids.

    • @jmowreader9555
      @jmowreader9555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true. Naphtha can be handled safely with just ordinary precautions.

  • @DMahalko
    @DMahalko 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These recommendations don't go far enough because a highly explosive mixture is allowed to form in the tank.. There needs to be a liquid/air separator so oxygen is not pushed into the tank. There may need to be a containment bladder inside the tank to isolate liquid from open air in the empty space above.

  • @danconser6709
    @danconser6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just me, or did ANYONE ELSE notice how closely ALL THOSE STORAGE TANKS WERE LOCATED. That's just CRAZY & a secondary fire problem just WAITING to happen, but was never discussed in the video?

  • @twerkingfish4029
    @twerkingfish4029 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crazy how like three inches of wire could have easily prevented this.

  • @kindadenche
    @kindadenche 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most MSDS did not communicate all the associated hazards to some less flammable substances. they had under estimated the consequences of such a hazard. How do liquids generates static discharge??

  • @uraldamasis6887
    @uraldamasis6887 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:53 that's got to be the narrowest storage tank I've ever seen

  • @chale5369
    @chale5369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mrs. Zsuzsanna Momade brought me here ⚡

  • @brendanwilliams7291
    @brendanwilliams7291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A potentially dangerous if not lethal combination in this explosion, how nobody was killed I’ll never know.

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would expecthe fumes to be too rich to allow combustion. Filling the air space with a non combustible gashould be done. Is N2 (nitrogen) cheap enough to use?

  • @davidmackay9441
    @davidmackay9441 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a great analysis. I am interested if this air in the lines was verified as the cause or was it possible root cause. I'd like a deeper dive into the root cause analysis done as it would be quite interesting.

    • @marcusman18901
      @marcusman18901 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lollll

    • @greghenderson4328
      @greghenderson4328 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      David MAckay well it was a route cause or else the mixture wouldn't have ignited?

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would have been a root cause as the air is introduced into the lines when changing compartments on the tanker.

  • @Johnny53kgb-nsa
    @Johnny53kgb-nsa ปีที่แล้ว

    Does OSHA follow CSB recommendations?

  • @oneofmany1087
    @oneofmany1087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprises that Kansas could even put that plant together.

  • @blitzblutz
    @blitzblutz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How the heck could the determine that it was the hinge on the float that developed the spark??? Maybe, but I wonder if that really was the cause?

  • @keeganlittlelittle5394
    @keeganlittlelittle5394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when i saw the flames it was crazy

  • @wjnahuy
    @wjnahuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to have a solid cable with a large synthetic ball and a magnet on bottom to immerse completely in tank attaching to bottom that can be tested for proper contact via a weight/metering device and ground entire thing deeply into fluids.

    • @rrknl5187
      @rrknl5187 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A differential pressure sensor mounted outside the tank near the bottom will give an accurate liquid level indication.

  • @jamesteichler1290
    @jamesteichler1290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plastic floats and mounts?

  • @ToothyGus
    @ToothyGus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Should've used a level sight glass

    • @oldgysgt
      @oldgysgt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ToothyGus; sight glasses are not practical on tall tanks or tanks with electronic monitoring. Also, they are very vulnerable to breakage, and product spillage. This makes the use of sight glasses on vessels with flammable liquids, such as Naphtha, VERY hazardous.

  • @okamco
    @okamco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is this dude the same voice as the one who does how its made? his voice sounds so familiar!

  • @noahater5785
    @noahater5785 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another painful lesson on why industrial facilities and residential areas should not be built so close together.

  • @tonybalview5962
    @tonybalview5962 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very informative lost my fingers cooking hotdogs on a propane stove

  • @phorzer32
    @phorzer32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are there no Fire supression system, that sprinkles the tanks with water, to mitigate the Fire?

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably because a fire suppression system would have to consist out of something else than water (seeing how some of the liquids used are oil based and as a result, will float away happily on water, maybe even while happily burning), and as a result need a much more enclosed space in order for something like a gas fire supression system to function reasonably well.

  • @gulawanishirish
    @gulawanishirish 16 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is an excellent way of e-learning. How do I download it for the sale of showing to my colleagues and workers in an industry?
    Shirish Gulawani

    • @marcusman18901
      @marcusman18901 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      we know your name, you don't have to put it in a comment

    • @mman454
      @mman454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      marcusman18901 nine years ago TH-cam accounts generally were user names rather than someone’s actual name.

    • @landroveraddict2457
      @landroveraddict2457 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use the slimjet browser, it has download feature built in.

  • @jimrossi7708
    @jimrossi7708 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone explain what “non conductive” means ??

  • @DavidHuber63
    @DavidHuber63 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eggs are one thing, you put all your highly explosive tanks in one basket