Company wants to build $1.4 billion water desalination plant in Huntington Beach
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- Chip Yost reports for the KTLA 5 News on May 9, 2022.
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Being able to replenish lakes and reservoirs on the interior of the United States and to help combat rising seawater does seem like a great solution
100% agree
Yes, what do they do with the brine though?
@@osteopathichomeopathicking6154 well, good question, and I do have what I believe is a good answer, I'll keep it short,
TO THE MOON ALICE, TO THE MOON
@@osteopathichomeopathicking6154 fertilizer
Should of done that years ago...
This and Nuclear power plants. Things that CA's democrat governors should have done a long time ago.
Your lack of knowledge is just stunning
@@jabreck1934 nothing stunning about. Not everyone has a vast reserve of knowledge, because they are busy with lifes tasks
The world has no choice now. We have to build more desalination plants.
😂
I politically disagree with Newsom on most all of what he does but this is one thing I agree with him on. He has enough common sense to know that the southwest U.S. is running out of water and California has an entire ocean to exploit near them
Why are people mad? This is what we need
The radical environmentalists and Coastal Commission are always against everything. It’s how they raise money and rule over property owners.
Plankton rights lol
@@eugeniovera7435
Right, SAVE THE PLANKTON!
Desalination plants leave huge amounts of focus brine, that kills off entire coastlines.
Plus…the cost to maintain is nuts!
Cost vs reward, while factoring in mitigating circumstances….it just isn’t there.
It’s an emotional want.
@@sendthis9480 liar
It’s amazing California has spent nearly a half a trillion dollars on high speed rail and while the population has tripled has invested nothing in water infrastructure since the aqueduct system was built nearly 75 years ago. No wonder Poverty and homelessness is the fastest growing class in California
Or proper affordable housing
for the last 60 years the state has been running two scams - the twin tunnel project and the sites reservoir project - hundreds of millions of taxpayers' dollars pillaged for nothing ..
@@NCPapa
If you can't afford to live in California...then leave!
Most homeless in California are not from California
@@impossibledrms most people from cali are not from cali - 'in home support services' is a state agency that pays parents $36,000/year to label their child 'handicapped' so people flood in from all over the country - of course those people aren't living on the streets - add federal $ for labeling the child handicapped and it's pushing $70,000/year ..
That would be so cool. I would definitely apply to be part of this project!
Positive post
Well, now that Lake Mead might not be sustainable anymore, they really need this plant built. Can't believe this plant got denied.
It’s a good idea. I support to have some desalination plant as backup
This solution has been around for decades for California, but 'we-the-people' were always to distracted/stupid/lazy to keep kicking the politicians in their greedy behinds to get it done.
Hopefully this 'opens' the desalinization doors.
Desalination is an awful idea in Southern California. It kills wildlife. What we need to do is stop sending our wastewater to the ocean. We need to re-use it all.
we already have them here in california. they are privately owned. now that it's profitable there will be more reason for officials to care to invest.
If you haven't figured out that the water shortage has been intentionally manufactured, you might want to look in the mirror like Scott Bakula.
Desalinization is not the answer.
It only has small capabilities and should be used as one a many solutions.
@@sendthis9480 Why do you think the technology hasn't progressed at all? Water is being turned into a valuable commodity, when it used to fall out of the sky.
If they could nail down the structure of a sodium battery that excess salt could be used in them. They’d be easier to recycle than lithium batteries and would omit heavy metals.
Then do it.
Should have been done 10 years ago.
Environmentalists blocked it for decades
Your lack of knowledge is just stunning!
I thought we couldn’t do desalination plants in Orange or Los Angeles Counties due to the continued pollution of the water in the are from container ships, oil spills, sewage spills, industrial run-off, riverbed drainage, etc. I thought the plan was always to put the desalinization plants on the coast in Central California where those pollutants are considerably less. What happened to those plans that were discussed 10 years ago? Does anyone have insight (no trolls please) as to what has happened? I’d love to learn more. Thanks
Cost and tech🤷🏽♂️??
You forgot to mention all the Mexican caca in the water too
@@fgh2756 could very well be true. Thanks!
Desalination plants leave huge amounts of toxic brine, that kill off entire coastlines.
Up North saw what has happened in Carlsbad, and won’t have it.
@@sendthis9480 I assume there is no market for this brine? I get that the brine is toxic if released back into the ocean. Is there no human use for it?
Sad to say. Their are a lot of states that can use these plants !!! People are living longer and population is growing ....
They've been doing this in Saudi Arabia for a long time now. The technology is mature now.
@@turkey1337 Israel as well. In the most saline environment in the world, the Dead Sea.
@@mrjackdaniels0309 Exactly, California has fallen behind on this and needs to catch up when they could have been the leader.
Build it!!! We need it!!! Many of them!
In California? I smell a water tax afoot.
wow, what an amazing idea....on second thought, lets just continue to spend more money the Bullet Train...that's a way better idea
Let's keep sending billions to Ukraine. You go Biden! YOU GO!
GREAT IDEA !!! Why has it taken that long to invent or put into use???
Environmentalists want to force us to pay for their own ideas
First plant in CA was 30 years ago!
"WAS"???... were is it now ????
@@lindagentile2380
Your idiotic comment WAS posted 42 minutes ago. See how that work now?
I hope this helps you understand the English language.
These OC pinheads are short sighted, selfish, and very NIMBY. It's not just OC that needs the water.
I’m always amused by the intersection of technology and stupidity.
Oh yeah a vacuum in the ocean poor fish they go through enough crap already
Can't wait to get taxed on that
This is epic
So begins the Water Wars.....
What’s the chances of taking the leftover brine water, and sending if to the Salton sea? By the time it gets there, the sand would clean the water even more...just wondering...
Yeah do it! It’s either us or the marine life
Bruh LA and San Diego shoulda had 10 of these by now😂
We need more water reclamation plants than a desalination plants. It’s less energy used which is going to be an issue with the growing EV and charging station boom.
I read a stat that in LA the avg person used 85 gallons of water per day. I don't know what all is included in that figure but it seems high. It seems like one of the issues to address is inefficient use. There will still be an issue but it starts with the individual...since there are so many people in LA it could definitely help.
Nuclear, and Brine along with other waste can be sent into the moon or another planet...
Why can't we dump all this salt from a water desalination plant into Death Valley instead of back into the Ocean???
Stellar idea, back up plan towards drought arrivals. 50-million gallons per day won't cover entire state, but will cover many cities, if disciplined non waste is included. This will be answer to water shortages. No other resources besides removing fresh water lake depletion. Which are to small body water resources, to be effective within high demand. Plus really dampers fishing season, the fish will not bite at all, when water is fluctuating. Castaic upper lake/2011, went fishing there 8-consecutive trips, 6:00am-7:00pm, premier lake Rated #2 nation wide towards fresh water large mouth bass. Not one fish was caught, not even one bite as well, between two anglers 13-consecutive hours × 8 trips during 2011-post spawn, throughout mid-summer time. Prior years/seasons, average 4-17, 3-lb-8lb large mouth bass with ease, even young kids were hitting at least 2-4 bass daily. Once water is pulled, they are fully lethargic, like no where to be seen. Lakes were very deleated within fire season, also no rain during fall/winter season.
Save the salt water! 🤦♂️
Change the way we do things ✌🏿
I'm sure about Cali but, here in Florida was to use wastewater for reclamation. But, it hasn't happened in the metropolitan areas rural areas yes.
Several thoughts
1. We need better technology for desalination. The cost of building a plant, the clean water output and the energy needed are way too inefficient.
2. The ocean is already heavily polluted from sewage and cargo ships.
3. America needs to follow Israel's lead in desalination.
What's the cost of all the fires on the West coast? Build 10 of these along the coast and guess what things look alot better. Build it now or lots of people will starve to death.
There is no such thing as too much water in the west. These people opposing the plant are so ignorant.
Let’s do it. Stop being dependent on outside water. We can be self sufficient
Hell yea! Let’s goooooooooooo!
Build one thing to solve one problem yet create a new problem once built and in use. That concentration of salt and brine byproduct is nasty to be dumping back in the ocean, it's just laziness.
Please we need more of this Desalination can stop rising sea levels and climate change spread the word!
Very good idea...
Can we not mixed the treated water with the salted water?
We have a "giant aquifer"... for now
They should do this in Northern California where the farmers suck up water
Build it build it build it
Amazing that we can even do this.
Remember when Folks laughed about Water Commodity Markets? This is a step in that direction, Corporate Control of your Water Supply. Oh and the price of your Water just tripled.
Might be beneficial, once
the city Fixes its reoccurring offshore sewage problem from a nearby waste treatment facility
They should help out the millions that are homeless better
California has already destroyed the Colorado river. These should have been built 20 years ago. You also need to heavily cloud seed the region. The eco people can just dehydrate themselves to death.
Sure, build the plant but not along the coast. Build it inland, in the desert if possible and pipe/pump the water in from the sea. Also use clean nuclear power as an energy source.
Why? Mississippi has lot if water.
@@mrtee3477
The Mississippi River is too far from the American Southwest where fresh water is badly needed.
With the glaciers melting taking water out of the ocean and balancing the salinity actually is not a bad idea.
Why didn't they plan for this year's ago? If they don't like this idea, then get used to drinking toilet water!
IVE BEEN TELLING CALIFORNIA SINCE 2015. Some people even bucket water to reserve, we need dams. I feel like the consistent hot weather slowed these decisions, it doesn't rain enough for it.
We've dammed every single site we possibly can in California without diminishing returns. What we need to do is add more treatment to our sewage plants so that we can re-use the water instead of sending treated water to the ocean
@@CarsandChris snapple facts
@@Trinx323 I work in the water industry in Southern California. I know what I'm talking about.
@@CarsandChris not looking forward to the water tax tho 😕
@@Trinx323
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This should been implemented many many many years ago so we would have resources to use now! Saudi Arabia has the best system that has the ability to take the salt from the ocean and make it to actual water for showers, washing your clothes so on and so forth not for consumption! Also it could be used for irrigation! Cuz you cannot take all of the salt completely out! If there is the will there is a way and of course there is the money situation it could be done just do it
@Ching Vang yeah we do low key!😉
They don't want to tap in!😳
The best desalination facilities are actually in Israel. The largest desalination plant in the world is the Sorek desalination plant in Israel near Tel Aviv
@@devengeo9501 wherever it may be the United States needs to start studying and implementing this now! We are in store for more fires, more natural disasters! This is the beginning!
@@devengeo9501 Yeah I've seen videos of it.
30 seconds of research on desalinization plants not not that difficult.
Comment sections are just so bizarre
This should have been done decades ago like they do in Israel.
Your lack of knowledge is just stunning!
@@jabreck1934 how so? Care to elaborate?
The first desalinization plant in the world was built in Kuwait, with US technology.
The first reverse osmosis plant in the world was built in the US.
The first desalinization plant in the US was 30 years ago.
Use the Internet to do a little research instead of just using it to make idiotic comments
@@jabreck1934 is that it? You sound angry. I just made a comment about Israel having desalination, and we should follow their example. You're an angry person.
@@pooldr.4843 Instead of admitting Your ignorance,
You spiderweb off into another topic. Make it about me.
Exactly the response I’m used to from people not willing to take responsibility for anything they say or do, no matter how absurd or ridiculous . Truly pathetic. Be a man, take responsibility what what you say.
Example you’re setting is garbage and you know it
Desalination is simply extracting Water from the Ocean and dumping the Waste Product Brine back into the Oceans. How is that different from extraction of Oil form the Earth and dumping the Waste Product Green House Gases into the Atmosphere and Oceans?
You can use that brine in the oilfield too
No No we don't want fresh water.........simply genius.
Save the planet, I mean the saltwater! 😂
If you use that aquifer you might run risk of salt intrusion. Also AYO WATER WARS ALREADY???
If Newsom is for this he has got to be making money off it somewhere down the line.
He's for women's rights. He thinks abortion is good. He's absolutely disgusting!
They just have to figure out the proper way to use the the byproduct aka brine. I don’t understand why they cant just make evaporation pools and make salt? Why send brine back into the ocean?
Just use the salt instead of dumping it back into the ocean for de icer liquid for the highways in the winter problem solved
Do not dump the brine back in ocean!!
Build that plant and pump that water to Nevada, if y'all don't want it, we'll take it. Forget the environment, who cares about stupid pelicans and plankton? Humans need water
I agree. These damn environmentalist thinks they know it all I'm pretty sure they're all vegans too...
@@fjb1088 yeah let them live outside among the birds and dirt like the animals they love, the first ones to give up and go home can't ever protest for environmentalism ever again, just typing that word upset me.
NIMBY at it again canceling projects to move forward :/
How about cali builds a crap ton of these and stop draining the Colorado. Your a coastal state.. don't like the plants then move.
They can’t agree to build a desalination plant, can you imagine trying to build the Hoover damn in today’s environment? Sadly it would never happen.
I bet the ones concerned about plankton eat at Red Lobster.
Make salt beds and harvest salt.
Just do it. Get it over with. CA. Needs the water bad.
This is where I'd love to go Grunion hunting in the '70s.
Better use union labor
and in iserl you can drink from the tap no bottled water necessary just think about it that save you money month
Finally
It’s a waste of money 💰 doesn’t work
The salt should be shipped and dumped somewhere in California's vast deserts.
Why?
@@adrianb6073 so it wont be dumped back into the ocean. There are thousands of acres of unsettled desert land that can be used for storage.
@@excusemenoexcusemeno1671 If you read the report, the concern is not the salt in the discharge water, but the marine life living in the intake water which would be killed due to the velocity of the discharge. Nothing about salt.
@@adrianb6073 ofcourse high concentration of salt would not have an impact on marine life. Its the velocity of the discharge ok😒
Stop the video at 1:40 and read the paragraph. I understand their concern to be the velocity of the discharge pumps killing the small marine life that make it past the intake screens.
No brine in ocean !!!!!!!!!
We have to do all we can……. It’s everybody’s problem 💦
Keep building it. Or move it somewhere. A tsunami hits and all the good water would be salty after. Yeah not a good place to build that. Unless they plan to build a wall to block the water from coming into the sand and trying to mix with fresh water. But we also need water to drink.
Are they restoring fresh water for us to drink? or to restore clean water for the Pacific Ocean? If it's for the Pacific, desdesalination combined with *The Ocean Clean Up* company, we could be on to something!
I'm sure it's for drinking water unfortunately.
Why would you want to waste "clean" water on the Pacific Ocean?
@@johna.4334 B/c the Pacific Coast lines along Cali aren't the cleanest. We're not the worst.. our beaches are gorgeous but we still have oil spills, sewage busts & lots of plastic/trash 🚯 floating in the Pacific.
@@Darius_Icewood
I was referring to fresh / clean water i.e. river water being wasted on the ocean. And I might add...
California is not suffering from drought as much as it is suffering from a water waste issue.
@@johna.4334 I respect your opinion on the matter but what I said is factual information based on *The Ocean Clean Up* company I've been following for quite sometime.
Something smart to spend our tax money on . Israel is a good example of having water security.
Israel uses the Dead Sea.
That means…when they export the toxic brine back into the water, it won’t be killing anything.
There are live a thriving coastlines in Orange County.
Big difference.
Plant is not needed, Population density in California is to high ,Population should move to less drought prone areas for relief to protect biodiversity , Equity and Inclusion ❤ After All that’s what’s Klaus said , Right 😂😂😂
i agree - goodbye - and take 10 million of your closest friends with you..
@@libiure California tumbles into the sea
That'll be the day I go
Back to Annandale
Tried to warn you
About Chino and Daddy Gee
But I can't seem to get to you
Through the U.S. Mail
Go look at Israel they successful done it
Our government is dragging its feet on developing this technology.
WHY NOT WATER CAPTURING ROOFS THAT DON'T HAVE TO GO ON A ROOF OR THE PLASTIC CANVAS THAT CAPTURES ALL MOISTURE. BUT NOOO... FIRST THE UNNATURAL AND PROFITABLE $$TUFF
This would require it to rain and/or have humidity. What do we but have here?
@@darklordbobSmoke A COUPLE IN ARIZONA ONCE A YEAR MONSOON RAIN VERY RUSTIC SET UP. THEY MANAGE TO CAPTURE FOR 6 MONTHS GARDENING ETC. THERE ARE ALSO THE MOISTURE CAPTURING WALLS OR TOWERS
@@diatribe1194 yes, MONSOON levels of rain. Which we don't get
@@darklordbobSmoke THATS NOT ENOUGH IN THE ARIZONA DESERT. YOU DO HAVE LOTS OF MOISTURE
I'm not in Arizona and we really don't have much moisture. It may be coastal but LA is still a desert biome. And turn off your caps lock.
Don't do it California, this will ruin the place's natural beauty.
Sure waste more excess money before it's gone.....And raise your bill 4 to 6 dollars a month....
if they don't want the plant build it here and create jobs. also why not just boil the water and distill it?
Too much energy wasted on boiling water.
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Make huntington beach useful for once instead having there RASCISM…. Why not build a pipeline from the east to the west from the states that flood there water goes to waste anyways why not fill up our dams !!!
"RASCISM" Huh?
Waste of money
That's money well spent