I hate how the daughter basically gets canned because of her own mother's faults. She can't live a normal life because of it. That is the most problem with most parents. We didn't ask to be born. We are not at fault for your problems. TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONCE! 🙄
Have to say as a parent me and her dad have never treated our daughter as both an extension of ourselves or a do over. Too many do that. Our kids, as you say, don't ask to be born. But I really don't believe we, as parents, get to live our unfulfilled dreams through them or consider them do-overs of our lives. Neither do I believe our kids should be 'weaponised' against partners in the parents split up. We've always explained things to our daughter and as soon as she was able to understand she was always told what was going on in the family and our finances, etc so nothing was ever a shock to her or she felt shut out because she 'was a kid'. Our kids are people with thoughts, dreams and ambitions of their own. We as parents should be there as cheerleaders for their successes and shoulders to cry on for their failures. Our homes should be their 'safe place'. Our love and support for them unflinching. That's how we raised our daughter at least.
what a fantastic story! i didn't expect that ending at all! and to see it's the MEN who went out all the way to save her while it's the women who are being vile to her...
Same reason why just by being born you are “tainted” by original sin. Yes even babies were going to hell if they were not baptized. Purgatory was a later conception.
It's the same logic used today that blames affair kids for being affair kids rather than getting upset at the adults who cheated. Also in royal/noble families, their higher ranked parent has more say than the child
@@zawwin1846 - In the Catholic tradition, unbaptized babies or people, who still have original sin go to Limbo. Purgatory as a concept as been around since ancient times. For the catholic tradition, more like the 12th century. Purgatory is were souls undergo purification or temporary punishment in order to enter heaven. Very few souls go directly to heaven as they have to completely pure of spirit - basically saints and marytrs.
Dude, about halfway through I was ready for this to be a prequel to the horror movie nun in which case I'm on her side now. With all the shit she's been through let's go and torture some folks. It's not like she had access to therapy I consider that her anger management
How is it refreshing? This kind of story has been the rule for ages. Pick up any random old fairytale and you'll see the evil ones are women (mean stepmothers, bad witches, jealous sisters, etc.) while men are the enchanted princes who save the day. The current trend of female heros and male villains is incredibly recent.
I mean, we all know some terrible women let's be honest.. who in many ways are more sinister than men... Walking on broken glass? A dude probably would have just punched her a bit... I'd take the punch over fishing glass out of my feet.
Many years ago, I read a similar French story by a well-known French writer. The book was about an earlier time. The youngest girl of a rich/noble family was sent to a convent because she was the product of her mother's affair with another man. Inside the convent, she suffered from a lot of mistreatment and unhealthy competition among nuns. But I do not remember anything about the lesbian content in the book. She kept writing to a lawyer to ask to get her out, maybe (I cannot remember this detail very well). But she managed to escape. When she got out, things were even worse. Her parents (including the not-related father) already died. Her two sisters of the same mother refused to acknowledge who she was; they were afraid of having to share their inheritance from the mother's side. There was no Marquis brother. No one from her biological father's side existed. A very sad story.
Oh, no, my "similar French story" was the novel "La Religieuse" (The Nun) by Denis Diderot, on which this movie was based! I think I read the book in Vietnamese. The lesbian attraction was cut off by the Vietnamese censorship. But the book ended in an undecided situation. Suzanne was waiting for the help of a Marquis. She had no half brother. Her two half-sisters were trying to silence her.
@@КарловТривест Да, теперь я знаю. Большое спасибо. Oui, je le sais maintenant, merci beaucoup. Il ya beaucoup d'ans quand j'ai étudié le français et le russe.
if I was her, I would have burned down the place and called it a holy fire to cleanse the evil in there and run away after all they wouldn't waste money on lifetime search for a girl that has changed her looks
Some monasteries would be a bit difficult to burn, depending on what was available and how much was actually burnable, but I definitely like it. You definitely have a healthy amount of fight in you.
It really is a pain to us kids always having to pay our parents' sins. As one commenter below puts it, we never asked to be born yet we are still expected to bear what comes along what our parents have
This story is detestable. An innocent was sent to a nunnery and forced to take holy orders without her consent. Then she was imprisoned and abused and sexually harassed and assaulted. She was starved and also experienced religious abuse, because she was denied the right to even pray. I hate this story!
Excuse me! Whose sin? Oh mom. You done it. You go to the convent . Not your child. Mom, you want her to repent to clean your doing. What about the D' dad?
Parents who shame their own kids from their problems and abuse them are not human beings. Child abuse is real. It’s disgusting and inhumane. Sickens me that the system is broken.
La Religieuse (also called The Nun or Memoirs of a Nun) is an 18th-century French novel by Denis Diderot. Completed in about 1780, it was first published by Friedrich Melchior Grimm in 1792 (eight years after Diderot's death) in his Correspondance littéraire in Saxony, and subsequently in 1796 in France. The novel began not as a work for literary consumption, but as an elaborate practical joke aimed at luring the Marquis de Croismare, a companion of Diderot's, back to Paris. The novel consists of a series of letters purporting to be from a nun, Suzanne, who implores the Marquis to help her renounce her vows, and describes her intolerable life in the convent to which she has been committed against her will.[1][2] (Wikipedia)
French orders were known for their unnecessary harshness: I learned this from an English woman who converted to Catholicism before WWII under the influence of the Oratory fathers in Birmingham England. Denis Diderot wrote his novel to expose the cruelty and harsh rules of these French orders: here we see mental and physical abuse of the worst sort.
It's ridiculous how the mom tells her daughter to go to the convent to "Repent" of her sin when the MOTHEr sinned, not her. The mom had sex with another man, but the mom tells her daughter that she has to become a nun to repent for the mom having an affair that resulted in the child, which cannot be the child's fault because she didn't exist when the experience happened.
Being a nun, especially a cloistered one isn't a life most people can imagine, and it's literally a punishment for this girl for something she didn't do.
You know, that was dumb of her parents. A child, whether it was in marriage or not, is considered a sin. A child is a blessing no matter what form it comes from. In fact, her mom should be in that convent for her sins. Not the daughter. To do that far to be forgiven is not going to cleanse the mother's sins. Why should a child be punished for a parent's sins? She doesn't deserve this punishment. what they couldn't do was send her away in marriage or find out her real father and see if she could live with him.
Look up the story of St. John of the Cross. You want to talk about being abused by a religious order...guy had to escape by tying bedsheets together after being starved for months.
When these things happen, it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. It is Satan's tactics, he comes to steal, kill & destroy but Jesus Christ came so we can have abundant life (John 10:10).
This right here is why one must be a reliable and decent presence in the lives one touches; don't be a nutter or abuser who adds to the confusion and stress of life
The movie changed the ending so that audience would feel good. In the book, her two half-sisters did not acknowledge who she was for fear of losing part of their inheritance to her. There was no half-brother.
@@daekyukyu3777 There were three endings: (1) The nun in real life, who the real marquis tried to help, had to stay in the convent for the rest of her life (2) The book which was loosely based on the nun's life ended in suspense. She was waiting for the marquis to help her. (3) The movie's ending was all rosy.
That’s terrible. This is the reason so many people hate God. Daddy God is not like that at all. He suffered for us. He’s loving towards us and takes care of all His children.
Historically convents were homes for "inconvenient women" as well as for those with the sincere calling to a spiritual life as a nun. The poor need not apply since a "donation"($) to the religious Order was required in order to gain entry. This practice was more or less limited to high status families and what would pass as the proto-middle classes before the modern era. Such a young woman who for one reason or another was not suitable "marriage material" would become a financial burden on her family, and as a female she would not ordinarily inherit anything on the deaths of her parents. To teach her a trade or a business skill or provide an education was rare since that would put her into a 'lower class' (yikes). So the convents were thought to be the safest and most honorable way to dispose of a spinster daughter-It was the Catholic thing to do. It was what it was...
Those going into a convent should be welcomed with open arms. Those leaving should face understanding that it wasn't right for them. But that they are & will always be loved. But we're dealing with humans here & we're all flawed in some way.
One of the reasons why the Catholic Church housed a legion of peados and perverts, their parents shoved them into the priesthood or they knew it was easy access.
obtaining holy orders is most definitely not easy access. It takes years and even after all these years, their superior can deem them unfit for the holy orders.
No kidding 😂 they’re literally committing so many sins, and I’d feel pretty safe to mention they’re probably breaking their Rule as well, depending on what kind of monastery this is. This isn’t how a monastery is run at all- at least not a Catholic one, which is the only kind I have familiarity with.
This movie was based on a book called "La Religieuse" (The Nun) by a French writer who was a friend of Marquis de Croismare . The book itself was based on the story of a nun, Marguerite Delamarre, whom the Marquis had tried to help to get her out of a convent without success. In real life, Marguerite Delamarre had to spend her whole life in the convent. In the book, Suzanne managed to escape. There was no brother. She was scorned by her two half-sisters who feared losing some inheritance to her.
@@hanaluong2672 it's sad to learn her own family did this to her.. nevertheless I will still stick to the movie ending were she meet her enstranged brother, it's less heartbreaking.
When girls decry feminism for being 'man hating', I am reminded that THIS was the state of the world before feminism. Our kind, female kind, fought a lot for equal rights without which we can only be victims of the system
How its girl's fault if her mother is a cheater .. and her mom's husband doesn't accept a child who doesn't have any fault but accept a cheater wife and punished the girl who doesn't do anything.. Biological mother is real sinner Her step brother is angel who save her from evil church
6:20 That wasn't just the mother superior taking advantage of Susan, that was sexual assault. The mother "superior" would just go after the 16-YEAR-OLD CHILD, SUSAN, and sexually attack Susan out of nowhere, if the teenage girl has no idea what's happening or that it's going to happen to her, how is this 16-teen-year-old girl going to say no?
why do I feel like this is probably a real person in history? Like why do I feel like this person actually existed? This seems so real for the time. And while I am fully going to, except the fact that I am only a person who is weirdly obsessed with history, this sounds so much like France before the revolution
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
Hold up, I have to give up my possible future of being a wife and mother because you couldn't keep your legs shut to another man? Oh heavens no. I'm not even surprised about the vileness that these ladies put her through. It's sad.
This might be obvious too others. But I just want to say in case ppl actually take this to the heart this isn’t how nuns are and what they represent at all. And the ending was nice.
Actually there are lot of true stories of real-life survivors who spoke on the amount of which craft that happened in the past, they also mentioned nun using the Bible to make it seem like their doing God deeds but really their worshiping Satan. This stuff is true I saw lots of autobiographies.
People were actually really wicked back then but now society has changed. This why we really got to get the facts and not opinions or you could end up getting false information.
This sounds a lot like France before the revolution. The fact that there was a whole brigade of women who were acting so promiscuous like Susan ‘s mom was and the names are French make me feel like this perhaps it was a real person the fact that Susan escapes to a wealthy family makes me feel like this is also a movie from friends, or at least taken place in the period of French history before the revolution lead to Napoleon Buonaparte
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
@@cutiepiettvjackson8744 thank you so much I will definitely be looking up that book. I am happy at least to see that the movie adaptation of the main character at least has a happy ending.
Is so many of these type of women out here that will sit back and watch people be hurt humiliated battered and bruised and won't do shit about it in real life!!!!
punishing your kids for your own mistakes, punishing others on behalf of yourself, happened throughout history and looking around today it hasn't changed too much.
She definitely wouldn't be able to live by herself... Well.. you know.. she's a woman, unmarried, alone, lesbian... Death is all she has outside those walls
The punishments of the mother superior are way over the top- to such an extent that it takes me out of the moment and makes me laugh because of how unrealistic it is.
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
No one has right to force their own will on someone else, we all have individual mind, separate life, better let the decision of becoming nun is taken by girl herself
They did back then. Men owned their wives and children. You had no choice. As a girl, without good marriage prospects, you were worthless to your family.
My catechist (she’s also a nun) once said she would happily have me join her order when I grew up , as I’ve always been quite religious. I know she only had good intentions and I just laughed but thought to myself ‘and have no sex and no fun? Hell, no’. I hate that people think every devout Catholic has to go down the path of a religious vocation, or at least marriage. I think you could just be in a happy relationship and still be a good Catholic, and whether or not you want to get married, it’s entirely up to you. Sex is not part of the picture. I know a lot of wonderful and truly holy Catholic couples who had been living together for years before they got married, and still better than those zealous hypocrites.
@@druidriley3163 Actually no. For a person's sins to be forgiven, they must have repentance for their sins and have the intention to strive to do better and avoid that sin. Without these, the sin cannot be forgiven because you are just using God's forgiveness as a get out of jail free card. It doesn't work this way. What Hilda is describing is nowhere near a devoted Catholic. You cannot claim to be a good Catholic, while on the other hand blatantly supporting sin. One cannot change the rules God set in place for us because its "inconvenient" just to fit their own narrative.
@@fenrir4406 *For a person's sins to be forgiven, they must have repentance for their sins and have the intention to strive to do better and avoid that sin* And they can totally believe this during confession...until it happens again, and she will just ask for forgiveness again. And per the bible, if she's sincere, she will get it. People can totally be sincere, but still weak.
@@druidriley3163 If you actually read what they said, they admitted that they actively support fonification. You cant go into confession asking for forgiveness while supporting fonification. Yes people are weak and if they ask for forgiveness realizing what they did was wrong and stop supporting it they will receive at forgiveness. I would research how confession works if that helps.
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
Good Christians. I am an Educated anti-theist and I have spent THOUSANDS of my own dollars ( I barely get by) and let a woman with her dog and rat get MUCH better accommodations, at my own cost. I got her a Massachusetts ID, which no other of the 49 states would offer her one. It takes an ID to even take a bus! I took the time to make this severely battered homeless woman into a USA Citizen able to be legal MOTHER to her 4 kids. All praise be to me, I am The True Jesus. Be your own Jesus, not a fool.
@@KL-ki8db That wasn't just taking advantage of her, that was sexual assault. She would just go after her and sexually attack her out of nowhere, if the teenage girl has no idea what's happening, how is this 16-teen-year-old girl going to say no?
@@cutiepiettvjackson8744 That is exactly what I mean by saying “taking advantage of her”. That is what sexual exploitation is, taking advantage of another person for your own sexual needs without the consent of the other. Sexual exploitation is a form of sexual assault. It could harbor you for a few minutes to figure that out. Also where in my original comment did I state that Suzanne wanted or allowed this to happen?
And thus, Martin Luther, an ordained Roman Catholic clergy, helped a group of women escape a convent by smuggling them out in empty barrels, and eventually married one of them. Her name was Katharina von Bora.
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
I hate how the daughter basically gets canned because of her own mother's faults. She can't live a normal life because of it. That is the most problem with most parents. We didn't ask to be born. We are not at fault for your problems. TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONCE! 🙄
It is written from the perspective of another century's mindset, you know, like the DARK ages.
Parents these days are the biggest reason why gen Z are lunatics.
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Have to say as a parent me and her dad have never treated our daughter as both an extension of ourselves or a do over. Too many do that. Our kids, as you say, don't ask to be born. But I really don't believe we, as parents, get to live our unfulfilled dreams through them or consider them do-overs of our lives. Neither do I believe our kids should be 'weaponised' against partners in the parents split up. We've always explained things to our daughter and as soon as she was able to understand she was always told what was going on in the family and our finances, etc so nothing was ever a shock to her or she felt shut out because she 'was a kid'. Our kids are people with thoughts, dreams and ambitions of their own. We as parents should be there as cheerleaders for their successes and shoulders to cry on for their failures. Our homes should be their 'safe place'. Our love and support for them unflinching. That's how we raised our daughter at least.
what a good father 🥺 he tried to save his little girl he didnt know he always had knowing he might never see her
what a fantastic story! i didn't expect that ending at all! and to see it's the MEN who went out all the way to save her while it's the women who are being vile to her...
The book "La Religieuse" or "The Nun" did not end that way.
Women hurt each other more than men hurt women.
@@nightprowler6336 Been my experience!
@@hanaluong2672 how did it end??
@@nightprowler6336 Statistics strongly disagrees with you
Someone tell me how it's her fault that her mother had a child with a nother man?
Congratulations, you've discovered the hypocrisy and cruelty of organized religion.
Same reason why just by being born you are “tainted” by original sin. Yes even babies were going to hell if they were not baptized. Purgatory was a later conception.
We get rid of the sin. Not the sinner. -religions zelot.
It's the same logic used today that blames affair kids for being affair kids rather than getting upset at the adults who cheated. Also in royal/noble families, their higher ranked parent has more say than the child
@@zawwin1846 - In the Catholic tradition, unbaptized babies or people, who still have original sin go to Limbo. Purgatory as a concept as been around since ancient times. For the catholic tradition, more like the 12th century. Purgatory is were souls undergo purification or temporary punishment in order to enter heaven. Very few souls go directly to heaven as they have to completely pure of spirit - basically saints and marytrs.
Dude, about halfway through I was ready for this to be a prequel to the horror movie nun in which case I'm on her side now. With all the shit she's been through let's go and torture some folks. It's not like she had access to therapy I consider that her anger management
I was legit looking online during the video to see if it was exactly that. It kinda sounds like the origin story for a murderous demon nun right?
@@LilTikiBoy Exactly! I was not 100% convinced it wasn't the prequel until the very ending. And I'm still down for it to be the prequel
That would've been an oscar-worthy horror prequel!
Same feelings! I thought if this turns into a horror movie, I get her. But good ending for her I guess.
I actually thought this was a prequel to that horror movie. So I was shocked at how it turned out. Glad the girl escaped though.
I love the story! Here the women are the bullies and antagonists while the men are the saviors. I like it, so refreshing.
How is it refreshing? This kind of story has been the rule for ages. Pick up any random old fairytale and you'll see the evil ones are women (mean stepmothers, bad witches, jealous sisters, etc.) while men are the enchanted princes who save the day. The current trend of female heros and male villains is incredibly recent.
I mean, we all know some terrible women let's be honest.. who in many ways are more sinister than men... Walking on broken glass? A dude probably would have just punched her a bit... I'd take the punch over fishing glass out of my feet.
Many years ago, I read a similar French story by a well-known French writer. The book was about an earlier time. The youngest girl of a rich/noble family was sent to a convent because she was the product of her mother's affair with another man. Inside the convent, she suffered from a lot of mistreatment and unhealthy competition among nuns. But I do not remember anything about the lesbian content in the book. She kept writing to a lawyer to ask to get her out, maybe (I cannot remember this detail very well). But she managed to escape. When she got out, things were even worse. Her parents (including the not-related father) already died. Her two sisters of the same mother refused to acknowledge who she was; they were afraid of having to share their inheritance from the mother's side. There was no Marquis brother. No one from her biological father's side existed. A very sad story.
Oh, no, my "similar French story" was the novel "La Religieuse" (The Nun) by Denis Diderot, on which this movie was based! I think I read the book in Vietnamese. The lesbian attraction was cut off by the Vietnamese censorship. But the book ended in an undecided situation. Suzanne was waiting for the help of a Marquis. She had no half brother. Her two half-sisters were trying to silence her.
Le film est littéralement basé sur le livre que vous avez lu.
@@КарловТривест Да, теперь я знаю. Большое спасибо. Oui, je le sais maintenant, merci beaucoup. Il ya beaucoup d'ans quand j'ai étudié le français et le russe.
@@КарловТривест i
There was no “lesbian” in this movie. That was predatory and abusive behavior. What a sad story
if I was her, I would have burned down the place and called it a holy fire to cleanse the evil in there and run away after all they wouldn't waste money on lifetime search for a girl that has changed her looks
😅😆🤣
I would have done the same. Obviously all those cruel nuns were possessed by Satan. They're all living in sin. Wolves in sheep clothing.
Brilliant idea!😆
Some monasteries would be a bit difficult to burn, depending on what was available and how much was actually burnable, but I definitely like it. You definitely have a healthy amount of fight in you.
Aww in the end the brother she never knew did everything to save her.
There was no brother in the book "La Religieuse".
@@hanaluong2672 we're talking about the movie. Not the book.
Awww
It really is a pain to us kids always having to pay our parents' sins. As one commenter below puts it, we never asked to be born yet we are still expected to bear what comes along what our parents have
This story is detestable. An innocent was sent to a nunnery and forced to take holy orders without her consent. Then she was imprisoned and abused and sexually harassed and assaulted. She was starved and also experienced religious abuse, because she was denied the right to even pray. I hate this story!
It's French, lol. They're good at depressing artsy stories.
I am grateful that I now know not to watch it. That's what I love about movie recaps.
@@JP2GiannaTand incest movies
Excuse me! Whose sin? Oh mom. You done it. You go to the convent . Not your child. Mom, you want her to repent to clean your doing.
What about the D' dad?
Whats d dad
Parents who shame their own kids from their problems and abuse them are not human beings. Child abuse is real. It’s disgusting and inhumane. Sickens me that the system is broken.
What a sad story! Poor Susanne! This STILL happens today. I’m glad she was saved
La Religieuse (also called The Nun or Memoirs of a Nun) is an 18th-century French novel by Denis Diderot. Completed in about 1780, it was first published by Friedrich Melchior Grimm in 1792 (eight years after Diderot's death) in his Correspondance littéraire in Saxony, and subsequently in 1796 in France.
The novel began not as a work for literary consumption, but as an elaborate practical joke aimed at luring the Marquis de Croismare, a companion of Diderot's, back to Paris. The novel consists of a series of letters purporting to be from a nun, Suzanne, who implores the Marquis to help her renounce her vows, and describes her intolerable life in the convent to which she has been committed against her will.[1][2]
(Wikipedia)
Diderot had a sister who had been sent to be a nun against her wishes...
Wow
Poor suzanne no one should be forced into a religious order against their will
Exactly she please her parents by becoming a nun hell no!
Being a nun isn't for everyone and it's literally a punishment for something not her fault. She's punished for being born.
Beautiful ending. What a tragic and awful life the poor girl had endured.
French orders were known for their unnecessary harshness:
I learned this from an English woman who converted to Catholicism before WWII under the influence of the Oratory fathers in Birmingham England.
Denis Diderot wrote his novel to expose the cruelty and harsh rules of these French orders: here we see mental and physical abuse of the worst sort.
Super happy ending ! The way her luck had gone, I expected the man who drove her away from the last convent to further brutalize her.
It's ridiculous how the mom tells her daughter to go to the convent to "Repent" of her sin when the MOTHEr sinned, not her. The mom had sex with another man, but the mom tells her daughter that she has to become a nun to repent for the mom having an affair that resulted in the child, which cannot be the child's fault because she didn't exist when the experience happened.
Being a nun, especially a cloistered one isn't a life most people can imagine, and it's literally a punishment for this girl for something she didn't do.
The ending was so beautiful! ❤
You know, that was dumb of her parents. A child, whether it was in marriage or not, is considered a sin. A child is a blessing no matter what form it comes from. In fact, her mom should be in that convent for her sins. Not the daughter. To do that far to be forgiven is not going to cleanse the mother's sins. Why should a child be punished for a parent's sins? She doesn't deserve this punishment. what they couldn't do was send her away in marriage or find out her real father and see if she could live with him.
Because of the scandal.
I felt so sad for her.
What a manipulation 😢this is why people turn away from religion. 😮
Look up the story of St. John of the Cross. You want to talk about being abused by a religious order...guy had to escape by tying bedsheets together after being starved for months.
When these things happen, it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. It is Satan's tactics, he comes to steal, kill & destroy but Jesus Christ came so we can have abundant life (John 10:10).
Omg I was waiting for the sad ending 🥺🥺. Never expected such a happy ending in this sad story
This right here is why one must be a reliable and decent presence in the lives one touches; don't be a nutter or abuser who adds to the confusion and stress of life
Brutal reality of convent . Hw a teenager faces a hell without any support, family friends.
I'm gland Susan was able to reunite with her brother after all that and i hope the mother gets her due karma
The mother should of paid for her own sins and not have burdened her daughter with them . These sons are wicked and evil and are not worthy to be nuns
Feel bad for her but the ending is good 👍🏼
The movie changed the ending so that audience would feel good. In the book, her two half-sisters did not acknowledge who she was for fear of losing part of their inheritance to her. There was no half-brother.
@@hanaluong2672 so what happened? In the end, is she still end up as a nun?
@@daekyukyu3777 There were three endings: (1) The nun in real life, who the real marquis tried to help, had to stay in the convent for the rest of her life (2) The book which was loosely based on the nun's life ended in suspense. She was waiting for the marquis to help her. (3) The movie's ending was all rosy.
That’s terrible. This is the reason so many people hate God.
Daddy God is not like that at all. He suffered for us. He’s loving towards us and takes care of all His children.
Don’t call god daddy. How creepy.
That poor girl force into being a Nun and had to suffer non stop.
This girl can get a break all nuns just betrayed her ..
Except the OG mother superior who has tragically died.
Historically convents were homes for "inconvenient women" as well as for those with the sincere calling to a spiritual life as a nun. The poor need not apply since a "donation"($) to the religious Order was required in order to gain entry. This practice was more or less limited to
high status families and what would pass as the proto-middle classes before the modern era. Such a young woman who for one reason or another was not suitable "marriage material" would become a financial burden on her family, and as a female she would not ordinarily inherit anything on the deaths of her parents. To teach her a trade or a business skill or provide an education was rare since that would put her into a 'lower class' (yikes). So the convents were thought to be the safest and most honorable way to dispose of a spinster daughter-It was the Catholic thing to do. It was what it was...
Now a days, families just makes us homeless. :)
Those going into a convent should be welcomed with open arms.
Those leaving should face understanding that it wasn't right for them. But that they are & will always be loved.
But we're dealing with humans here & we're all flawed in some way.
This poor child😭
One of the reasons why the Catholic Church housed a legion of peados and perverts, their parents shoved them into the priesthood or they knew it was easy access.
obtaining holy orders is most definitely not easy access. It takes years and even after all these years, their superior can deem them unfit for the holy orders.
Honestly i kinda hate those "FIRST YAYYYY" comments like literally nobody cares. At least say that his content is good!🎉
it's not that deep,let them live🙄
@@palesahope6187 joe mama
@@randomuser9883 haha that's very mature of you,grow up😑
Honestly, nobody gives a fuck
@@palesahope6187
No i will not
I don’t care what you say
Generous of you to say
Gorgeous you’re not
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Why wouldn't the mom take the vows?
Coz she is married, only virgins can take it..
Will she would lose money, sex, and power
Those people are absolutely FILLED with God’s love.
No kidding 😂 they’re literally committing so many sins, and I’d feel pretty safe to mention they’re probably breaking their Rule as well, depending on what kind of monastery this is. This isn’t how a monastery is run at all- at least not a Catholic one, which is the only kind I have familiarity with.
Am in love with this movie ending 😍
This movie was based on a book called "La Religieuse" (The Nun) by a French writer who was a friend of Marquis de Croismare . The book itself was based on the story of a nun, Marguerite Delamarre, whom the Marquis had tried to help to get her out of a convent without success. In real life, Marguerite Delamarre had to spend her whole life in the convent. In the book, Suzanne managed to escape. There was no brother. She was scorned by her two half-sisters who feared losing some inheritance to her.
@@hanaluong2672 it's sad to learn her own family did this to her.. nevertheless I will still stick to the movie ending were she meet her enstranged brother, it's less heartbreaking.
When girls decry feminism for being 'man hating', I am reminded that THIS was the state of the world before feminism. Our kind, female kind, fought a lot for equal rights without which we can only be victims of the system
Just to remind you, boys in monastery had it just as bad. I am a feminist, but I like to get my facts straight.
@@sallagronlund643 But the boys could escape and get jobs to support themselves respectably, the girls could not.
Isabelle Huppert is always playing the wackiest characters.
I'd thought it was the nun as in the horror movie. I'm so glad it ended well though. It's refreshing to know that good men existed then
So This is The Nun before Conjuring's The Nun?
I think so?(idk what you're pointing) they're different but this is earlier than The Nun of Conjuring
@@Rociokirsten I was talking about this is The Nun that came first before The Nun of The Conjuring.
@@slytheringuy0529 Oh okay, yes it is
@@slytheringuy0529 "La religieuse" est un roman satirique écrit au XVIIIe siècle par Diderot.
How its girl's fault if her mother is a cheater .. and her mom's husband doesn't accept a child who doesn't have any fault but accept a cheater wife and punished the girl who doesn't do anything..
Biological mother is real sinner
Her step brother is angel who save her from evil church
The hidden secrets of the Church of Rome
6:20 That wasn't just the mother superior taking advantage of Susan, that was sexual assault. The mother "superior" would just go after the 16-YEAR-OLD CHILD, SUSAN, and sexually attack Susan out of nowhere, if the teenage girl has no idea what's happening or that it's going to happen to her, how is this 16-teen-year-old girl going to say no?
why do I feel like this is probably a real person in history? Like why do I feel like this person actually existed? This seems so real for the time. And while I am fully going to, except the fact that I am only a person who is weirdly obsessed with history, this sounds so much like France before the revolution
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
@@druidriley3163 No it didn't. A novel is fiction.
@@fenrir4406 The novel is fiction, who it is based on, is real.
Y’all know that a novel can take inspiration from a person IRL .
I’m just saying
Hold up, I have to give up my possible future of being a wife and mother because you couldn't keep your legs shut to another man? Oh heavens no. I'm not even surprised about the vileness that these ladies put her through. It's sad.
I read this book many times and adored it. I didn’t know this movie. The end is different.
This might be obvious too others. But I just want to say in case ppl actually take this to the heart this isn’t how nuns are and what they represent at all. And the ending was nice.
Thank you so much i am a nun and people imagine a kinds of things surely
Actually there are lot of true stories of real-life survivors who spoke on the amount of which craft that happened in the past, they also mentioned nun using the Bible to make it seem like their doing God deeds but really their worshiping Satan. This stuff is true I saw lots of autobiographies.
People were actually really wicked back then but now society has changed. This why we really got to get the facts and not opinions or you could end up getting false information.
Jesus! What a life!
Nice ending
This sounds a lot like France before the revolution. The fact that there was a whole brigade of women who were acting so promiscuous like Susan ‘s mom was and the names are French make me feel like this perhaps it was a real person the fact that Susan escapes to a wealthy family makes me feel like this is also a movie from friends, or at least taken place in the period of French history before the revolution lead to Napoleon Buonaparte
Not surprising that some wives and nuns acted immorally. For the most part, they were not given a choice to be married or enter a convent.
Uff 😥 that’s hard to believe … more so because of the rights women have in 2023 .
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
@@cutiepiettvjackson8744 thank you so much I will definitely be looking up that book. I am happy at least to see that the movie adaptation of the main character at least has a happy ending.
Is so many of these type of women out here that will sit back and watch people be hurt humiliated battered and bruised and won't do shit about it in real life!!!!
punishing your kids for your own mistakes, punishing others on behalf of yourself, happened throughout history and looking around today it hasn't changed too much.
Why is it that the children always suffer from their parents mistakes
Bullying at a convent....evil reigns everywhere. Why not just leave the convent and become a lesbian??
She definitely wouldn't be able to live by herself... Well.. you know.. she's a woman, unmarried, alone, lesbian... Death is all she has outside those walls
You can "become" a lesbian you already are of that what you are
@@Indian_gae_boii it is still a choice.
Wait why would she become a lesbian?
@@grisom5863 she was sexually intimate with 2 nuns
I knew her father would be an aristocrat
I was ready to throw hands yall
The punishments of the mother superior are way over the top- to such an extent that it takes me out of the moment and makes me laugh because of how unrealistic it is.
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
Just hate last mother superior was lunatic.
Wutduff.. Nuns 😶 doing these things... Aren't they married to Jesus?
Yes, but literally everyone is capable of committing adultery.
Sister Christine is living evil
No one has right to force their own will on someone else, we all have individual mind, separate life, better let the decision of becoming nun is taken by girl herself
They did back then. Men owned their wives and children. You had no choice. As a girl, without good marriage prospects, you were worthless to your family.
Love how the 16 year old girl was played by a 26 year old woman😂
I heard about the abuse some nuns have suffered in real life
What amazing story
This was truly a sick one
I think I have seen this before , the third mother superior disgusts me!
i guess i download the wrong NUN
My catechist (she’s also a nun) once said she would happily have me join her order when I grew up , as I’ve always been quite religious. I know she only had good intentions and I just laughed but thought to myself ‘and have no sex and no fun? Hell, no’. I hate that people think every devout Catholic has to go down the path of a religious vocation, or at least marriage. I think you could just be in a happy relationship and still be a good Catholic, and whether or not you want to get married, it’s entirely up to you. Sex is not part of the picture. I know a lot of wonderful and truly holy Catholic couples who had been living together for years before they got married, and still better than those zealous hypocrites.
Fornication isn’t a sign of a good Catholic.
@@bellethilrancthalion1109 But you can confess the sin and be forgiven. That's how this works, right?
@@druidriley3163 Actually no. For a person's sins to be forgiven, they must have repentance for their sins and have the intention to strive to do better and avoid that sin. Without these, the sin cannot be forgiven because you are just using God's forgiveness as a get out of jail free card. It doesn't work this way. What Hilda is describing is nowhere near a devoted Catholic. You cannot claim to be a good Catholic, while on the other hand blatantly supporting sin. One cannot change the rules God set in place for us because its "inconvenient" just to fit their own narrative.
@@fenrir4406 *For a person's sins to be forgiven, they must have repentance for their sins and have the intention to strive to do better and avoid that sin* And they can totally believe this during confession...until it happens again, and she will just ask for forgiveness again. And per the bible, if she's sincere, she will get it. People can totally be sincere, but still weak.
@@druidriley3163 If you actually read what they said, they admitted that they actively support fonification. You cant go into confession asking for forgiveness while supporting fonification. Yes people are weak and if they ask for forgiveness realizing what they did was wrong and stop supporting it they will receive at forgiveness. I would research how confession works if that helps.
does anyone know if this is true? if not it certainly is a heartwarming story. she found happiness at last
Even tho they are nuns the things that happen to Susan is evil and very ungodly
hhhhhhmmmmm I think I might decided to watch this movie just have to make sure that I pick the right version
Where do you get all these weird films from, and why don't you disclose their titles?
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
That’s messed up
I thought this was the origin story of the horror movie the nun
Instead she should go to college
I thought this was about horror movie, the nun
I prefer the og movie,the ending there seemed more realistic
So much cruelty!!
It’s amazing how many nuns and priests are burning in hell. So much for being servants of “god”
What's the name of the film?
Good Christians. I am an Educated anti-theist and I have spent THOUSANDS of my own dollars ( I barely get by) and let a woman with her dog and rat get MUCH better accommodations, at my own cost. I got her a Massachusetts ID, which no other of the 49 states would offer her one. It takes an ID to even take a bus! I took the time to make this severely battered homeless woman into a USA Citizen able to be legal MOTHER to her 4 kids. All praise be to me, I am The True Jesus. Be your own Jesus, not a fool.
where to watch?
Mother suprier is a lesbian and shouldn't force her self on this girl who didn't share the same feelings or sexual preference .
Personally, i would be fine with Mother Superior's sexuality if she didn't take advantage of Suzanne against her will.
@@KL-ki8db That wasn't just taking advantage of her, that was sexual assault. She would just go after her and sexually attack her out of nowhere, if the teenage girl has no idea what's happening, how is this 16-teen-year-old girl going to say no?
@@cutiepiettvjackson8744 That is exactly what I mean by saying “taking advantage of her”. That is what sexual exploitation is, taking advantage of another person for your own sexual needs without the consent of the other. Sexual exploitation is a form of sexual assault. It could harbor you for a few minutes to figure that out. Also where in my original comment did I state that Suzanne wanted or allowed this to happen?
This sounds like a remake of a 1966 French film, La Religieuse, except for the ending.
They are both based on the book La Religieuse, by Denis Diderot.
And thus, Martin Luther, an ordained Roman Catholic clergy, helped a group of women escape a convent by smuggling them out in empty barrels, and eventually married one of them. Her name was Katharina von Bora.
That overstates things xD
WoW a twusted but great tale
The convent is like hell with demons in it . What a story
i thought it was a horror story with demons in it. turns out it's actually worse than demons.
That's not a piano that's a harpsichord
? Where is the actual movie available?
Omg I thought it would be fun and gay but it was just trauma
What’s a convent?
Crazy nun , you have to pray if you are possessed how is it gonna work if you are not allowed to pray and possessed what is prayer for ?
It happened. Look up La Religieuse (novel). In the wiki description it tells of a girl who tried to do the same thing in real life as this character, but failed to escape.
How are you gonna get help? That sounds like a cult. A massive cult.
What's the Titel of that movie?