@@CodyKloepfer Yes but unless you want to take the company to court, they'll still take the risk most of the time and tell you, your warranty is void. Basically they're betting on you not actually taking them to court over it. Aka they simply don't care what the legal status is, until someone slaps them with a serious fine per violation. Thus the law that says it's not legal, is effectively worthless.
The SSD you've linked in the description is a Intel 660p 1TB while you install a 760p in the video. Thought I have read somewhere that 660p's don't work well on MacOS. 660p has a green pcb while the 760 has a black one, so its easy to spot the difference.
I waited 23 years to get a silent computer and switched from a Ryzen 5 2600 GTX 2060 HTPC (had the quietest BeQuiet fans and semi-passive components in it). I sold it in bits as separate components and bought a Mac Mini M1 which makes this video obsolete. The M1 Mini is now the killer.
Perhaps someone below already brought this to your attention, but I'll mention it again in case no one has: A 'silent,' fan-less machine w/decent specs would be quite wonderful in a home/project studio environment, esp. in situations where desktop space is at a premium, there is no separate control room or some recording is done regularly in the same room w/the computer. In my case, I have a 2014 Mac Mini. It's way under-powered compared to the NUC and takes up a noticeable chunk or real estate. (Having something like this project would be AMAZING for me. I'm hoping to get funds together and build one in the next year or two.)
Followed instructions but deviated by using the NUC8i7BEH and a 2 TB SSD (fits on included bracket above mobo) for storing music, creating a Roon music server under Mojave OS. Build only uses Ethernet connection (there is no WiFi/BT; left disabled). Only running Roon app 24/7 (screen saver turned off since normally using without a monitor or mouse or keyboard). Computer is configured to auto log on boot, then auto run Roon (Roon controlled by iPhone app through WiFi router/Ethernet connection). CPU temps run 36 to 40°C with unit sitting on a tiled floor (case is barely warm). The NVMe drive (with own heat sink as instructed) and SSD give temps of 34 to 36°C. So the cooling is excellent for all parts. These temps should provide many years of longevity. The whole unit uses just under 5W of power; very efficient. (All data from HWMonitorSMC2, using VirtualSMC + associated kexts.) This is a fantastic build. Thanks SnazzyLabs!
Bought a NUC and an Akasa Case, failed to install macOS on it. Here I am now with a new mini desktop computer that runs MS Windows now. Last time I had a Windows machine goes back to the previous decade. Thanks, Snazzy Labs.
I followed the link for the Akasa Turing Case and it went to Amazon Japan and it's listed at 60,580 Yen or USD$560 thereabouts. Once you add that expense in, it's significantly closer to the Mac Mini. Also, I have an 8i3BEK, and one of the things I prize a lot for the NUC is its small form factor. The case immediately nullifies that at an additional US$560. I'm not sure how many folks would make this trade off for a totally silent NUC which, if you're not stressing it, it not very loud anyway.
Was able to get a MacBook Air for $350 off of eBay. I5 from 2017. Screen was damaged but able to run it with a normal external monitor. Fits the bill and much easier to maintain than a hackintosh. Might try fixing the monitor for $80 at some point down the road. This is a nice rig but I’m not so sure I would invest that much in a hackintosh given that installing updates can be a headache and you are missing Bluetooth and WiFi.
if you can bear little fan noise, how about adding that blower between base plate and case or inside the case plate by making little grove to exhaust air!?
Adding the heatsink to the SSD might actually hurt the temperatures if you position the case upright. The fins of the SSD heatsink are positioned in horizontal direction, whereas the airflow due to natural convection is always in vertical direction. Whether it helps or hurts the temperatures really depends on the heatsink geometry but in this configuration circulating air pockets may form between the fins which will actually insulate the heatsink. I'm curious if you've tested the difference with the heatsink and without and if the orientation of the case influences the SSD temperature.
Actually Aluminum and Copper has the very similar effect as heat sink materials. The parameter of how good it conducts heat is based on weight, however, aluminum is relatively low density and in another word, the ability of conducting heat based on per volumn heat sink is pretty similar.
1. Why not just install OSX (or any os) on the NUC? i.e what is the reason for transplanting the NUC internals to the other case? 2. Can one not purchase the specs directly for the Akasa case, rather than ripping out the internals of the NUC? Would it not be cheaper to buy essentially the motherboard without having a redundant NUC case?
That case is also great for students. It looks plenty small for throwing in a backpack to take on the plane. Edit: In addition to a laptop, of course nobody is bringing a desktop to class.
@@benjaminjones1505 Come on FBI, you know I use the desktop at school as a secondary machine. What's the point of mass surveillance if you still need to ask questions?
A friend of mine bought a small touchscreen monitor and portable keyboard/mouse to use with his Raspberry Pi. He just carries it in his backpack everywhere and deploys it wherever he is
In Windows you can either use the power configs, or even better the intel extreme tuning utility (software overclock). The latter requires that you force the software not to check the hardware you are running, because it's not officially supported - but it works.
Watched plenty of your videos in the past and liked before- but this one made me actually listen to the “click subscribe” plea.. because even though I’ve never actually taken the plunge to build a hackingtosh I’ve looked into it plenty of times and I had yet to see someone give such a short, concise rundown on the Clover, kexts, TonyMac situation, vanilla install situation and why to choose one over the other. Thanks and keep up the awesome videos. Also, short blooper reel edits at the end of videos are always fun!
I have no need for a new NUC or a hackintosh, but after watching this I've ordered an i7 NUC from Amazon that should be here by 10pm today. I have a 512gb m.2 and 16gb ram waiting to go in.
heat sinks(in this case the ssd heat sink) don't work without airflow, after couple of minute the heat sink is saturated and will not do much without airflow to transport the heat elsewhere.
Most of my computers have 1600MHz. It's a nice middle-of-the-road speed for middle-of-the-road components, like my i7-4790, and Phenom II X4 955. I also have an epic Athlon single thread beast with 400 MHz DDR 😎
I cannot say I am keen on the idea of the CPU die and heatsink only being kept in one position by gravity and the I/O shields. Little surprised the Akasa Turing didn't provide screw mounts from the underside, as the motherboard is compatible with three screws to mount the original fan. Maybe I am being pedantic!
My point is that without hotplug, you have to disable sleep, because your thunderbolt devices will never wake up properly. This may not be a huge deal considering how quiet and cool this thing is, but it's wasteful and annoying. I'm glad you added the caveat, I just found the use of the superlative to be a bit misleading considering it might be seen by some as crippling. Overall though, I totally enjoyed this video. A+++ would watch again.
Ah, yes. You and I both. It was working really for me late last year. Things have slowed down a bit in the last couple months. Gonna figure it out though. Thanks for watching!
A heatsink inside an enclosure that has no vents or fans is pretty useless. They sell flat heatpipes that are bendable that you can attach from the SSD to the case using thermal tape.
No he can't I don't think, apple uses Intel, he's piggybacking of the work of apple to make there software run on an Intel CPU. I could be totally wrong, but Mac OS wasn't meant for AMD CPUs, or it's been a while at least, and there isn't that "base working instruction set".
Its probably possible as the Hackintosh community has a kernel that works with AMD. However Final Cut Pro X uses Intel Quick Sync so although it will work most likely rendering is video is not going to be any faster but other things might be. Considering most Hackintoshes are used primarily for FCPX or Logic Pro X you may gain speed in certain areas but not all
Great video! And a note on the ad breaks, yours are always seamless and well presented. The ads are usually semi relevant to your target audience too so If it means you're paying the bills, you should include them!
Applied a thermal pad. That will do more than enough. You don’t want NAND flash to get too cold or it actually doesn’t work well. Sticker should ideally be pulled but this one gets its warranty voided if you do.
It's 2019, what's the point of going to the trouble of getting a hackintosh up and running? What is it going to do that you can't do with Windows 10, Linux, or Chrome?
Silly comment someone's already addressed but I'm too lazy to dig through 1,042 others: Why not put a high-capacity card in the NUC board's microSD slot before installing it in this case? More storage space, very cheap... seems odd to just waste the connection...
I was thinking the same thing until I remembered that I could never get the SD reader to work in macOS myself. Windows only.. but I diddnt try very hard. Does anyone know of a kext or setting?
Probably can't overclock because of power requirements that would be needed to. Like VRM on the motherboard needs to be high enough quality to provide solid clean power to the CPU. Also the PSU is going to be much smaller than a desktop PC as well. Thermal is probably the least of the worries when overclocking a NUC.
So, if you're taking the NUC out of the case, why does it matter which one you get? The one that has room for the drive is just a larger case, which you aren't using, right?
There is the BEH (bigger version) and BEK (small version). The BEH has space for a SATA SSD where the BEK version has not. Both have M2 (Nvme) slots. If you buy the Akasa case like in the video, you get cables to connect 1 sata ssd. And it then doesn't matter if you have the BEH of BEK nuc.
I have watched a TON of your videos and this is the first time I have liked and commented. The reason? You passed up ad space and just asked for a simple like and comment. That was awesome.
If I'm not mistaken NVMe SSDs shouldn't stay excessively cool when running because that actually shortens their lifespan: while writing to them, the heat reduces damage to the cells and many manufacturers add heating elements to ensure that the cells are warm enough while performing a write. In this case it was probably a good idea to put a heatsink on it since there is no active cooling but in traditional desktop cases where you have fans, it's more than enough to keep an NVMe drive at a good temperature and adding a heat spreader will do more harm than good.
11:05 " and that's it" well not quite, there is a lot of trial and error a lot frustration, and you also have to patch a DSDT file to make sure that the "drivers" are enabled to work, I am posting this comment from a hackintosh right now and my headphone jack still doesn't work, it all depends on the model of computer you decide to hackintosh and the type of computer, you decide to hackintosh, the intel NUC seems quite easy to hackintosh, that is because it is, but if you try to modify any other "non-modular" system it could be much, much harder. Quinn I appreciate your work and your dedication to the hackintosh community, keep up the good work!👍
So what is the real world use case of this case? When would passive cooling be super important? Beyond just being a cool looking product, is this a functional product or more just ascetically pleasing?
"It doesn't make a single noise" - Quinn Nelson, 2019 First 5 seconds of the video he says this. love the content as always, just found this really funny.
hi there, interesting build. What is the highest ram and clock speed? The heat sink for ssd is it bought separately or included with the case? can I instead use this build for windows 10?
On my way to building my own hackintosh, love your channel! Best ad breaks, when you have to do them. You should help Linus out, his ad breaks are notoriously awkward :D
thermal-dynamics laws will say that vertical is the preferred way to be because of natural convection currents created by a rise of hot air. me personally, i would surround the fins with black cloth or something aesthetic so that air is forced to actually flow through the bottom and out the top. the hotter it gets, the more efficient it becomes.
I may go hackintosh the next build. I had a 2011 mac book pro, I did some upgrades to it, 16gb ram from 8gb, took out the cd drive and replaced both the hard drive and cd drive with 2 ssd's 512 gb, etc. I only run logic pro x on it, it was fine. I then upgrade to the latest macbook pro BEFORE the touchbar, and that's a 2015 model, it's great. Has 16 GB ram, 3.6 ghz cpu and 512 gb storage. Biggest difference is it has 2 USB 3.0 ports, an hdmi port and 2 thunderbolt ports (which I don't use). I keep dual externals that are mirrored on 1 usb 3.0 port and it's fast as hell. Eventually, I guess I'll upgrade. The problem I have is I'm locked into Logic Pro X for so many projects, I can't just dump it and go to say Ableton (a much much more expensive platform, and frankly a piece of crap in comparison I think). The issue I have with Hackintosh's is you basically have to build one out, then you have to make sure you clone that drive before you upgrade - or you might lose everything. Also obtaining mac software is a pain, and you can't just update it via app store etc. Maybe things have changed, but this was 2 years ago last I tried a hackintosh, dunno.
I like how you do adds at end I’m more likely to stick around for tons of adds at end than during it only frustrates me when it’s interrupted multiple time.
This method works equally well for automotive applications. If you buy one more radiator for your car and mount it directly onto the hood, you can safely remove the radiator fan. They are very noisy.
I will admit I'm an unapologetic hackintosh gatekeeper. I really don't like how mainstream hackintoshing is becoming. Apple is definitely taking notice. I'm sure they are accelerating their plans for macOS to become like iOS. i.e. only usable on specialized hardware/processors with a bunch of security chips. I don't want that. Hackintoshing is an extremely nerdy passtime, and as people like Linus and Quinn (as much as I love them) try to make it easy for people to hackintosh, the people that want a free Mac experience will jump in without realizing how much legwork they will have to put in on their own to get there. For every 1 person that's willing to put in the work (of whom I have helped several through the process
ansonx10 I think you’re missing the whole point of open source and crowd support. If you want something, you’re free to put in the work and do it yourself instead of using other people’s work and then getting annoyed when others do the same thing
Hey Quin, or anyone who knows hackintoshing, I was wondering if I built out my Gigabyte AERO 15x as a hackintosh, if audio drivers and such would still be an issue? I know in Windows, audio mixing and editing in DAWs can be a pain, but specifically Ableton is just way more optimized on macos. But I enjoy Windows and gaming too much to sell my laptop for it. are there app issues between building a hackintosh, or is it really a guarantee that itll work the same?
Thermal paste is not just about the termal performance, you want it to last for a long time and you don't want to deal with crumbly paste in a few weeks just after using it.
The SD card slot seems like a huge oversight on the design. One ribbon cable to full SD Card, and a small modification of the case design and manufacturing later and you would have a functional SD card reader. Which, knowing that one of the reasons for mac is Final Cut Pro and that you need to import media, doesn't seem like a bad addition.
Yip, latest AMD Ryzen that has integrated GPU would be a great Hackintosh project - problem is that are there any SBC motherboards for AMD that are comparable to the NUCs?
This is why I'm subscribed! This really separates yourself from other channels. Plus it's got your trademark awkward humor that I love. (EDIT: I just realized I've already said that on this video, sorry lol) Do as many ads as you'd like I don't care. Especially at the end, cram as many as you'd like. I want you to make lots of money!!
Dude, I got this same case the x62 in the front cooling the CPU with a single push config then I have an additional 120 AIO in the REAR doing a push from the outside cooling the GPU if you want I can send you pictures. Also, have a USB hub in the basement along with a fan controller mounted on the back of the case. Lots of cables but for what I got for cable management it's not half bad.
Why bother with the $140 boat anchor passively cooled case? I have an i5 gigabyte brix that is essentially silent that I use as a VM server. When taxed at 100% CPU I've never heard it's fan from less than 6 feet away. Just not sure I understand spending $140 on a case that only adds cost, is significantly larger, takes away a microsd slot with extremely little benefit in regards to lowering what already is a very quiet product.
on the M.2 ssd's i always remove the sticker before putting the heatsink on. im guessing it doesn't do much, but who knows
It does make a slight difference but it voids the warranty.
@@snazzy Aren't the "warranty void if removed" stickers technically illegal now?
I do keep the stickers, so hopefully if when that horrible day comes and one of my m.2's die i can still RMA it.
Jake the sticker is thermally conductive
@@CodyKloepfer Yes but unless you want to take the company to court, they'll still take the risk most of the time and tell you, your warranty is void.
Basically they're betting on you not actually taking them to court over it. Aka they simply don't care what the legal status is, until someone slaps them with a serious fine per violation. Thus the law that says it's not legal, is effectively worthless.
Now that is efficient! Applying a thermal pad and a heatsink on top of a label!
Amazing as usual sir.
Thanks, Danny!!! 👊
The SSD you've linked in the description is a Intel 660p 1TB while you install a 760p in the video. Thought I have read somewhere that 660p's don't work well on MacOS.
660p has a green pcb while the 760 has a black one, so its easy to spot the difference.
the 660p doesn't have any cache so you will experience a degradation in performance the longer your workload is
I bought one of these to replace my desktop PC I slapped in a nice 500 gb SSD and 16 gigs of RAM and then I installed widnows
nice, i had a friend that had one of these and they’re amazing for their size
I waited 23 years to get a silent computer and switched from a Ryzen 5 2600 GTX 2060 HTPC (had the quietest BeQuiet fans and semi-passive components in it).
I sold it in bits as separate components and bought a Mac Mini M1 which makes this video obsolete.
The M1 Mini is now the killer.
Love the color grade on this one dude.
Thanks, Mondo! I’ll let Derek know. :)
Perhaps someone below already brought this to your attention, but I'll mention it again in case no one has: A 'silent,' fan-less machine w/decent specs would be quite wonderful in a home/project studio environment, esp. in situations where desktop space is at a premium, there is no separate control room or some recording is done regularly in the same room w/the computer. In my case, I have a 2014 Mac Mini. It's way under-powered compared to the NUC and takes up a noticeable chunk or real estate. (Having something like this project would be AMAZING for me. I'm hoping to get funds together and build one in the next year or two.)
Where can I get one of those awesome hoodies you're wearing at the beginning of the video?
It was a Microsoft promo item. Can’t buy them I don’t think.
@@snazzy Oh no! Awesome video, though, and I loved the intro.
Followed instructions but deviated by using the NUC8i7BEH and a 2 TB SSD (fits on included bracket above mobo) for storing music, creating a Roon music server under Mojave OS.
Build only uses Ethernet connection (there is no WiFi/BT; left disabled). Only running Roon app 24/7 (screen saver turned off since normally using without a monitor or mouse or keyboard). Computer is configured to auto log on boot, then auto run Roon (Roon controlled by iPhone app through WiFi router/Ethernet connection).
CPU temps run 36 to 40°C with unit sitting on a tiled floor (case is barely warm). The NVMe drive (with own heat sink as instructed) and SSD give temps of 34 to 36°C. So the cooling is excellent for all parts. These temps should provide many years of longevity. The whole unit uses just under 5W of power; very efficient. (All data from HWMonitorSMC2, using VirtualSMC + associated kexts.)
This is a fantastic build. Thanks SnazzyLabs!
I guess you could call it a... Mac mini "NUC-off"
Nice one!
dude you made me laugh so hard 😂
This guy is a regular MAC-Gyver ;-)
Bought a NUC and an Akasa Case, failed to install macOS on it. Here I am now with a new mini desktop computer that runs MS Windows now. Last time I had a Windows machine goes back to the previous decade. Thanks, Snazzy Labs.
Sick little computer! Looks really good. Makes me want to build a Hackintosh.... Nice work Quinn.
is posable install mac on Lenovo ThinkPad T410 laptop
You Nuc'ed it out of the park with this video! Thanks, I'm going to get myself a hackintosch to play with!
I followed the link for the Akasa Turing Case and it went to Amazon Japan and it's listed at 60,580 Yen or USD$560 thereabouts. Once you add that expense in, it's significantly closer to the Mac Mini. Also, I have an 8i3BEK, and one of the things I prize a lot for the NUC is its small form factor. The case immediately nullifies that at an additional US$560. I'm not sure how many folks would make this trade off for a totally silent NUC which, if you're not stressing it, it not very loud anyway.
I've always wanted to see someone cool something with just a block of metal.
Was able to get a MacBook Air for $350 off of eBay. I5 from 2017. Screen was damaged but able to run it with a normal external monitor. Fits the bill and much easier to maintain than a hackintosh. Might try fixing the monitor for $80 at some point down the road. This is a nice rig but I’m not so sure I would invest that much in a hackintosh given that installing updates can be a headache and you are missing Bluetooth and WiFi.
Maybe a stupid question, but what's the name of that monitor?
I was about to ask the same question
if you can bear little fan noise, how about adding that blower between base plate and case or inside the case plate by making little grove to exhaust air!?
You could also install GNU+Linux on this, right?
Ryan Helinski can you?
Adding the heatsink to the SSD might actually hurt the temperatures if you position the case upright. The fins of the SSD heatsink are positioned in horizontal direction, whereas the airflow due to natural convection is always in vertical direction. Whether it helps or hurts the temperatures really depends on the heatsink geometry but in this configuration circulating air pockets may form between the fins which will actually insulate the heatsink.
I'm curious if you've tested the difference with the heatsink and without and if the orientation of the case influences the SSD temperature.
I built one of these and I absolutely LOVE it. Thanks for the video and inspiration!!
Cheers! Glad you like it.
Actually Aluminum and Copper has the very similar effect as heat sink materials. The parameter of how good it conducts heat is based on weight, however, aluminum is relatively low density and in another word, the ability of conducting heat based on per volumn heat sink is pretty similar.
Can you do a silent build for the Hades Canyon NUC? The one with the Intel G processor with AMD graphics onboard
1. Why not just install OSX (or any os) on the NUC? i.e what is the reason for transplanting the NUC internals to the other case?
2. Can one not purchase the specs directly for the Akasa case, rather than ripping out the internals of the NUC? Would it not be cheaper to buy essentially the motherboard without having a redundant NUC case?
(1) for absolute silence, (2) no.
That case is also great for students. It looks plenty small for throwing in a backpack to take on the plane.
Edit: In addition to a laptop, of course nobody is bringing a desktop to class.
@@benjaminjones1505 Come on FBI, you know I use the desktop at school as a secondary machine. What's the point of mass surveillance if you still need to ask questions?
It could be a very effective MacOS device for running an iPad with Sidecar...
A friend of mine bought a small touchscreen monitor and portable keyboard/mouse to use with his Raspberry Pi. He just carries it in his backpack everywhere and deploys it wherever he is
@@clocked0 your friend is a bad person.
Is it TSA approved?
In Windows you can either use the power configs, or even better the intel extreme tuning utility (software overclock). The latter requires that you force the software not to check the hardware you are running, because it's not officially supported - but it works.
SSD - Should remove the "insulating" label if you're adding a heatsink
Watched plenty of your videos in the past and liked before- but this one made me actually listen to the “click subscribe” plea.. because even though I’ve never actually taken the plunge to build a hackingtosh I’ve looked into it plenty of times and I had yet to see someone give such a short, concise rundown on the Clover, kexts, TonyMac situation, vanilla install situation and why to choose one over the other. Thanks and keep up the awesome videos. Also, short blooper reel edits at the end of videos are always fun!
Cheers! 👊
when you live in canada so everything is expensive
feels bad man
The power of Canadian rubles
But you have poutine so not everything is bad.
@@TheChargingCow Yeah but there are localish retailers that offer similar components, right?
@@sapanreddy1729 You can get good Indian components. Also, basically every phone is cheaper.
@@snazzy Don't forget superior Kraft mac n cheese.
I have no need for a new NUC or a hackintosh, but after watching this I've ordered an i7 NUC from Amazon that should be here by 10pm today. I have a 512gb m.2 and 16gb ram waiting to go in.
There's a typo in the description, you list the 660p as RAM
It has been fixed. Thanks.
It’s ok the eye can’t see 2200mhz Ram anyway
@@JeanRodo you're right we can only see up to 24 hz ram I think that's what the internet people said
heat sinks(in this case the ssd heat sink) don't work without airflow, after couple of minute the heat sink is saturated and will not do much without airflow to transport the heat elsewhere.
6:46 The clockspeed of the memory is super low, 2400 mhz I believe...
Me: Yeah, I'm rocking 1333 in my 10 year old gaming pc...
Ram speed really matters with ryzen processors :D lol
Same lol. But works fine
Most of my computers have 1600MHz. It's a nice middle-of-the-road speed for middle-of-the-road components, like my i7-4790, and Phenom II X4 955. I also have an epic Athlon single thread beast with 400 MHz DDR 😎
I cannot say I am keen on the idea of the CPU die and heatsink only being kept in one position by gravity and the I/O shields.
Little surprised the Akasa Turing didn't provide screw mounts from the underside, as the motherboard is compatible with three screws to mount the original fan. Maybe I am being pedantic!
"Thunderbolt works perfectly in macOS, as long as you don't hotplug devices...."
That's not working perfectly IMHO.
Hence the need for a conditional.
My point is that without hotplug, you have to disable sleep, because your thunderbolt devices will never wake up properly. This may not be a huge deal considering how quiet and cool this thing is, but it's wasteful and annoying. I'm glad you added the caveat, I just found the use of the superlative to be a bit misleading considering it might be seen by some as crippling.
Overall though, I totally enjoyed this video. A+++ would watch again.
@@snazzy Hence the need to drop "perfectly", since it's a false statement given the conditional you added.
@@alliejrhe doesn't need to because it works perfectly anytime except for the conditional
@@alliejr There is no need to drop it. The conditional deals with the exception - tyhat's WHY it exiosts
I got a build in this from Atlast in the UK. Very happy with it as my audio production PC.
Look at how "The TH-cam Algorithm" massacred my boy
Huh? Lol
@@snazzy You're putting out great videos and I wish "The Algorithm" promoted your work more!
Ah, yes. You and I both. It was working really for me late last year. Things have slowed down a bit in the last couple months. Gonna figure it out though. Thanks for watching!
Snazzy Labs godfather reference
Blame Apple
A microSD card would make a great place for the O/S. Or a VM? Then run OS/X on the VM? during the pandemic I need something to do :)
Outstanding editing.
Thank Derek for that! :D
A heatsink inside an enclosure that has no vents or fans is pretty useless. They sell flat heatpipes that are bendable that you can attach from the SSD to the case using thermal tape.
Can You make a hackintosh with the new ryzen 3900x and 5700xt gpu?
No he can't I don't think, apple uses Intel, he's piggybacking of the work of apple to make there software run on an Intel CPU.
I could be totally wrong, but Mac OS wasn't meant for AMD CPUs, or it's been a while at least, and there isn't that "base working instruction set".
Its probably possible as the Hackintosh community has a kernel that works with AMD. However Final Cut Pro X uses Intel Quick Sync so although it will work most likely rendering is video is not going to be any faster but other things might be. Considering most Hackintoshes are used primarily for FCPX or Logic Pro X you may gain speed in certain areas but not all
I'm still running this Nuc (the i5 version) on macos sequoia. It runs smooth and quiet (yes..i put the nuc in the Turing Case as well).
Sick intro 🔥
👊
Great video! And a note on the ad breaks, yours are always seamless and well presented. The ads are usually semi relevant to your target audience too so If it means you're paying the bills, you should include them!
Memory speeds actually impact igpu's quite a lot
Im comparison with dual channel it's nothing, dual channel it's like 20% more performance
Why didn't you take the sticker off of the SSD and apply thermal paste? Will it not affect it?
Applied a thermal pad. That will do more than enough. You don’t want NAND flash to get too cold or it actually doesn’t work well. Sticker should ideally be pulled but this one gets its warranty voided if you do.
It's 2019, what's the point of going to the trouble of getting a hackintosh up and running? What is it going to do that you can't do with Windows 10, Linux, or Chrome?
Some people want a Mac...?
I love at 16:15 when pricing out the different models, Selling Your Soul to Apple is listed as priceless
6:49 no, actually it's pretty fast cit. the verge
Silly comment someone's already addressed but I'm too lazy to dig through 1,042 others: Why not put a high-capacity card in the NUC board's microSD slot before installing it in this case? More storage space, very cheap... seems odd to just waste the connection...
I was thinking the same thing until I remembered that I could never get the SD reader to work in macOS myself. Windows only.. but I diddnt try very hard. Does anyone know of a kext or setting?
You should check the compulab airtop 3! Great video as always
They are interesting, but expensive. (good internal expansion capabilities)
Probably can't overclock because of power requirements that would be needed to. Like VRM on the motherboard needs to be high enough quality to provide solid clean power to the CPU. Also the PSU is going to be much smaller than a desktop PC as well. Thermal is probably the least of the worries when overclocking a NUC.
"You know what they say, smoke'em if you got'em" :D
😉
So, if you're taking the NUC out of the case, why does it matter which one you get? The one that has room for the drive is just a larger case, which you aren't using, right?
There is the BEH (bigger version) and BEK (small version). The BEH has space for a SATA SSD where the BEK version has not. Both have M2 (Nvme) slots. If you buy the Akasa case like in the video, you get cables to connect 1 sata ssd. And it then doesn't matter if you have the BEH of BEK nuc.
I have watched a TON of your videos and this is the first time I have liked and commented.
The reason? You passed up ad space and just asked for a simple like and comment. That was awesome.
If I'm not mistaken NVMe SSDs shouldn't stay excessively cool when running because that actually shortens their lifespan: while writing to them, the heat reduces damage to the cells and many manufacturers add heating elements to ensure that the cells are warm enough while performing a write.
In this case it was probably a good idea to put a heatsink on it since there is no active cooling but in traditional desktop cases where you have fans, it's more than enough to keep an NVMe drive at a good temperature and adding a heat spreader will do more harm than good.
Yep! Would not cool if there was any airflow whatsoever. Cheers!
11:05 " and that's it" well not quite, there is a lot of trial and error a lot frustration, and you also have to patch a DSDT file to make sure that the "drivers" are enabled to work, I am posting this comment from a hackintosh right now and my headphone jack still doesn't work, it all depends on the model of computer you decide to hackintosh and the type of computer, you decide to hackintosh, the intel NUC seems quite easy to hackintosh, that is because it is, but if you try to modify any other "non-modular" system it could be much, much harder. Quinn I appreciate your work and your dedication to the hackintosh community, keep up the good work!👍
And the part I like best is that you didn't even feel the need to put a name on your shade. Nicely done.
Good piece too.
Thanks!
Maybe throw a micro SD in the slot before you close the case, say a 200GB SD. Would make for a decent junk drive.
So what is the real world use case of this case? When would passive cooling be super important? Beyond just being a cool looking product, is this a functional product or more just ascetically pleasing?
Recording studios, home theater setups, HiFi rooms, bedrooms, anywhere where fan noise is a no-go.
Snazzy Labs so there is a case for the case! Thanks for the reply, I love the idea of passive cooling, you just def have to be willing to pay for it.
"It doesn't make a single noise"
- Quinn Nelson, 2019
First 5 seconds of the video he says this. love the content as always, just found this really funny.
Lol thanks, Noah!
What about getting the same base computer but get a 6-core and 32g ram I stead? Then follow everything you did. Would that be still fine?
Dude i want a mac just to do my work on
hi there, interesting build. What is the highest ram and clock speed? The heat sink for ssd is it bought separately or included with the case? can I instead use this build for windows 10?
Why can't apple just make a desktop consumer mac with powerful graphics
Money
Mac pro?
@@MayiPasu Consumer Mac. Not a $6,000 base price chunk of aluminum.
It’s coming. Mac mini is not a good solution.
@@AShifter Oh, I didn't see "consumer mac" lol
On my way to building my own hackintosh, love your channel! Best ad breaks, when you have to do them. You should help Linus out, his ad breaks are notoriously awkward :D
You could install a mSD before you install the board.
thermal-dynamics laws will say that vertical is the preferred way to be because of natural convection currents created by a rise of hot air. me personally, i would surround the fins with black cloth or something aesthetic so that air is forced to actually flow through the bottom and out the top. the hotter it gets, the more efficient it becomes.
I read "The Silent Nut" and wondered why is crying alone
I may go hackintosh the next build. I had a 2011 mac book pro, I did some upgrades to it, 16gb ram from 8gb, took out the cd drive and replaced both the hard drive and cd drive with 2 ssd's 512 gb, etc. I only run logic pro x on it, it was fine. I then upgrade to the latest macbook pro BEFORE the touchbar, and that's a 2015 model, it's great. Has 16 GB ram, 3.6 ghz cpu and 512 gb storage. Biggest difference is it has 2 USB 3.0 ports, an hdmi port and 2 thunderbolt ports (which I don't use). I keep dual externals that are mirrored on 1 usb 3.0 port and it's fast as hell.
Eventually, I guess I'll upgrade. The problem I have is I'm locked into Logic Pro X for so many projects, I can't just dump it and go to say Ableton (a much much more expensive platform, and frankly a piece of crap in comparison I think). The issue I have with Hackintosh's is you basically have to build one out, then you have to make sure you clone that drive before you upgrade - or you might lose everything. Also obtaining mac software is a pain, and you can't just update it via app store etc. Maybe things have changed, but this was 2 years ago last I tried a hackintosh, dunno.
I would love to see yourself, austin evans and linus tech tips do a hackintosh on the new 3rd gen ryzens and face off benchmarks 😍
Would be fun!
I like how you do adds at end I’m more likely to stick around for tons of adds at end than during it only frustrates me when it’s interrupted multiple time.
Cheers!
14:07 Selling your soul to Apple: Priceless 🤣🤣
This method works equally well for automotive applications. If you buy one more radiator for your car and mount it directly onto the hood, you can safely remove the radiator fan. They are very noisy.
I will admit I'm an unapologetic hackintosh gatekeeper. I really don't like how mainstream hackintoshing is becoming. Apple is definitely taking notice. I'm sure they are accelerating their plans for macOS to become like iOS. i.e. only usable on specialized hardware/processors with a bunch of security chips. I don't want that.
Hackintoshing is an extremely nerdy passtime, and as people like Linus and Quinn (as much as I love them) try to make it easy for people to hackintosh, the people that want a free Mac experience will jump in without realizing how much legwork they will have to put in on their own to get there.
For every 1 person that's willing to put in the work (of whom I have helped several through the process
ansonx10 I think you’re missing the whole point of open source and crowd support. If you want something, you’re free to put in the work and do it yourself instead of using other people’s work and then getting annoyed when others do the same thing
oh stfu
Hey Quin, or anyone who knows hackintoshing, I was wondering if I built out my Gigabyte AERO 15x as a hackintosh, if audio drivers and such would still be an issue? I know in Windows, audio mixing and editing in DAWs can be a pain, but specifically Ableton is just way more optimized on macos. But I enjoy Windows and gaming too much to sell my laptop for it. are there app issues between building a hackintosh, or is it really a guarantee that itll work the same?
You do have to admit almost anything can shred the Mac even in the same size
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If you strapped a couple raspberry pis together it would probably be slower
Charlie Herbst at least that Mac! I will admit the 2018 Mac wasn’t that good but still, there is a lot of macs with way better specs!
You are very wrong.
Thermal paste is not just about the termal performance, you want it to last for a long time and you don't want to deal with crumbly paste in a few weeks just after using it.
Hackintosh builds is why i'm here. Keep m coming!
Are those three dies the same height? Wondering why they wen with the thermal pads if so.
0:00 - 0:04 No you! :D
what do you prefer a "real" mac or a hackintosh? what's more worthwhile? can you realy do anything on a hackintosh as on a mac?
Haha, dude, pay for your plugins! 😜Support the people who help make the tools that you use in your videos. Great video though!
I'd never go for the Intel NUC because of the soldered WIFI. Go for Gigabyte BRIX and install the supported Broadcom card for that Airdrop.
14:04 Selling Your Soul to Apple 😂
The SD card slot seems like a huge oversight on the design. One ribbon cable to full SD Card, and a small modification of the case design and manufacturing later and you would have a functional SD card reader. Which, knowing that one of the reasons for mac is Final Cut Pro and that you need to import media, doesn't seem like a bad addition.
Freeman's Freedom even less flimsy design would be to use the SATA port that was unused and adapt it into 2 full speed SD card slots.
"tiny"
I mean it's literally a stack of iMac Minis.
Not really, it's like a mac mini folded onto itself.
Not...really
Yip, latest AMD Ryzen that has integrated GPU would be a great Hackintosh project - problem is that are there any SBC motherboards for AMD that are comparable to the NUCs?
Stranger things related stuff is following me
This is why I'm subscribed! This really separates yourself from other channels. Plus it's got your trademark awkward humor that I love. (EDIT: I just realized I've already said that on this video, sorry lol)
Do as many ads as you'd like I don't care. Especially at the end, cram as many as you'd like. I want you to make lots of money!!
"Smoke 'em if you got 'em." :D
Dude, I got this same case the x62 in the front cooling the CPU with a single push config then I have an additional 120 AIO in the REAR doing a push from the outside cooling the GPU if you want I can send you pictures. Also, have a USB hub in the basement along with a fan controller mounted on the back of the case. Lots of cables but for what I got for cable management it's not half bad.
Someday when I get rich and famous I’m gonna come to you and buy The best hackinTosh
Why bother with the $140 boat anchor passively cooled case? I have an i5 gigabyte brix that is essentially silent that I use as a VM server. When taxed at 100% CPU I've never heard it's fan from less than 6 feet away.
Just not sure I understand spending $140 on a case that only adds cost, is significantly larger, takes away a microsd slot with extremely little benefit in regards to lowering what already is a very quiet product.
"It's sexy.....it's small.....and it doesn't make a single noise"
......well that rules out my girlfriend....
You're a good dude with a cool personable demeanor. How can such a chill person even like mac? I'm curious.
0:25 i'm pretty sure no one wants any video sponsors at all
I can assure you I want them.
Nah, if it supports the creator and gets us more content, then it's a win for everyone.
Is it possible to install the hard drive in this case, too?