€50 Bike VS Insanely Steep Climb! | GCN's Cheap Bike Challenge
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- Cycling up steep climbs is always challenging - regardless of your level of experience or the equipment you're using. During their recent trip to Italy, Manon and Ollie decided to challenge themselves to ride up the fearsome Muro di Sormano on a €50 bike?!
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Would you make it to the top of the Muro di Sormano on our €50 bike?
I've climbed lots of passes in the Pyrenees with a bike I bought for less than 100€. Single pivot brakes were not the best in the descent, but triple chainring lets you climb anything, and I wasn't that much slower than my mates. But I'll keep my disc brake carbon bike just for the descent any day.
Cool video, cheers!🍻 that bike was as bad as the moris minor is to cars. Thanks for showing why reviewing cheap bikes are pointless but lots a fun👍😎
i'd like to try that asap.. much love from the Philippines
Simply... No!
I'd struggle with my own bike 😂
I wish somebody looked at me the way Manon looks at Ollie's pinarello. 1:39
I wish manon looked at me
People mostly look at me the way Manon looked at the Cortina.
@@Stephen-nq5kd Sounds 'extreme'
@@akshay5295's-comment "I wish manon looked at me":
dude, she's engaged!
O_O
Classic :)
"For your baguettes...
... we're in Italy...
... pizza..."
Europe for dummies ! :)
Panini
soppressata
tinapay
Sormano = Polenta Uncia
@@josephjoshuamagistrado6758 pandesal
6:30 - Ollie goes to fist bump then realises that Manon is in no state for fist bumps. Just thought I'd give you a bit of narration
10:07 looks like he sets up for a high five. But manon seems too worried about the climb
Maybe, but it might just be him preparing the saddle by slapping it 🤷♂️
Literally scrolled down the comments to check someone had highlighted that!
Why isn’t she in no state for fist bumps?
@@mbal4052 maybe because she's just cycled up this nasty climb, dunno maybe she's just unfriendly 😂
This feels like a paid advertisement for Cortina Extrema bicycles.
I want one!
Curse the big ‘mum bike’ industry and their massive political influence. When will fast bikes get their chance to shine?! What must we do? Ride around France? Italy? Spain?!
Doubtless you can see how absurd the situation is under ‘big mum bike’ rule.
i think this is my favorite comment of all time 🤣
I think we need a GCN Tech special on the Cortina Extrema.
I foresee massive demand for a Cortina Extrema giveaway competition!
he dindt even rise the saddle no wonder why his quads where on fire!
it was stuck 😂
@@GCNuser123 lol!! 😂😂
@@GCNuser123 hahaha😂😂😂
Oh my god!
@@GCNuser123 the Pedals as well?
Mere mortals would be taking their bikes for a walk on this climb. The fact that the two presenters went up in 14 minutes just shows me what great athletes GCN has on staff.
can you give me your bike
14 I thought 40
40 on the cheap bike...
Ventura cruze with 24/34 ratio
14 or forty?
I'm extra grateful for the random GCN content during lockdown here in the US.
Where are you locked down at?
@@brockfrreminz6659 Denver, CO. I guess Lockdown is a little bit of a strong term. But the Mayor just instituted a curfew and tighter restrictions on gatherings, with COVID cases on the rise.
So between that, the sun setting at 5pm, and the promise of more snow, cabin fever is definitely setting in.
Joshua McGehee gotcha! Makes sense, I totally understand I mean, we hit what 144K cases in one day? Thanks for the response, have a good day sir!
Manon: gives Ollie a helping push
Ollie: I'm going to nip in the car and wait for her at the top IF she gets to the top
And notice that the place where Ollie is being pushed by Manon, is the exact same spot where she has to go off the bike...
Question: Is it easier to climb a hill if you use the correct sattle height?
This video: Yes!
or pumped up the tyres......
I asked the same question 😂
They know that the bike doesn't make such a huge difference so they do their best to make the cheap bikes look bad, should be reported for false advertising.
@@pierrelarouge i dont think the saddle goes up much higher. and i think it was a fair go. more air on shitty tyres is just bad grip on a super steep, slippery climb
@@pierrelarouge yeah - gear ratio ftw
Highly recommend more videos with these "cheap, regular" bikes because they are essential for many people. It would be cool to see what kinds of hacks or upgrades can be done them to improve them.
the wheels. you can upgrade the wheels. and the handle. TBH that kind of handle bar stem, thin and welded is much less durable. replace that and you are mostly golden. The pizza carrier if you dont aalready have one...
@Giuliano Skywalker there's pmethybyou can do to improve. Obviously not all improvements will be performance oriented but people getting these bikes lean more towards comfort
The biggest recommendation I would make is to pay attention to the gearset. On a general-purpose utility bike, you want it to be as versatile as possible.
Your ability to climb the steepest hill in your area while loaded down with shopping is entirely dependent on your lowest gear being low enough; I would strongly recommend having it between 20-30 gear inches, unless you live in the Low Countries or some such where hills just don't exist. The generic 10-speed gearset has a bottom gear of about 38", which is too high for all but the gentlest of climbs.
You will also want a gear around 40-45" for easy starting on smooth, level ground, and another in the vicinity of 55" for cycling on urban pavements among pedestrians, where going too fast is a liability. Novice riders will appreciate a 75" gear for use on a level road; those more experienced (and fitter) might increase that a bit, to say 85". Going downhill, you always have the option of just coasting if you "spin out". If you can, though, having gears up to about 100" is often useful. Beyond that, you need experience to find out whether you really need or want more.
The steps *between* gears are also important to consider. Relatively wide steps, say 20-30%, are good at the low end of the range, and relatively narrow steps, say 10-15%, in the range you'd use on the open road. With multiple chainrings, the "double shift" of going up a chainring and down a rear cog should be nearly equivalent to one cog (with triple chainrings) or two cogs (with a compact double).
I'm just upgrading my 24-speed hybrid from a 48-38-28 and 11-32 setup, which it came with from the factory, to a 48-36-26 and 11-34 MegaRange which fits the above principles a bit better, especially with the gear steps. But the original gears weren't *bad*, just not quite optimal; I was rarely left unable to climb a hill, unless towing a heavily loaded trailer.
If you have a 21-speed or a 2x7 and are dissatisfied with your gears, seriously consider Shimano's 7-speed Tourney cassette in 12-32 (if you don't already have the old 7-speed MegaRange cassette that is sadly discontinued), with either a 50-39-30 triple, a 48-36-26 triple, or a 46-30 "compact double" crankset up front. You'll probably need new derailleurs to match, but this will still be a fairly inexpensive upgrade that could seriously transform the utility of your bike. And if you have a 10-speed, 12-speed or 18-speed, have the shop stretch your frame and rebuild your rear wheel on a 7-speed Freehub, *then* fit the above gears; the transformation will be even more obvious.
For bikes with hub gears, the range of gears available to you will often be seriously limited by the choice of hub. Many bikes with 3-speed hubs have the gearing set too high through a poor choice of chainring and rear sprocket. I recommend putting the top gear around 75" for open-road use or in flatland, or around 60" for urban use with some hills; reducing the top gear for the urban context reduces the temptation to go faster than crowded conditions safely permit, and opens up more possibility for climbing hills.
The Nexus 7 is substantially more flexible than a 3-speed, and is a reasonably inexpensive upgrade. Choose the chainring and sprocket combination carefully, bearing the above gear-inch recommendations in mind. The Alfine 11 is roughly as flexible as the 21-speed suggestions outlined above, but fairly expensive; it does however come with an attachment for a rear disc brake.
For the flexibility of the 11-speed hub without most of the cost, consider a "hybrid gearing" setup with a Nexus 7 at the back, with an 18T, 19T or 20T sprocket depending on wheel size, and a 46-30 "compact double" up front. You'll need a flexible chain tensioner that looks like the bottom half of a rear derailleur, and you won't be able to use a coaster brake, but you'll be able to climb steep hills without having to give up a decent open-road speed, and it should cost less overall than the Alfine 11.
Finally, if you have an MTB (or a faux "mountain bike" that has only 10 gears and can't climb an actual mountain to save its life) but really don't ride on mud or gravel nearly as much as on tarmac, swap the knobbly tyres for wide but relatively smooth tyres. They'll roll better and feel more comfortable. Just consider yourself fortunate to have straight handlebars that are easy to use, rather than drop handlebars that can be borderline dangerous in novice hands.
That’s the only kind of bike I ride
I agree
Remember. The overwhelming majority of our fellow cyclists in the world ride bikes like this.
So no sneering.
The Beetle/2CVs of the cycling world.
What's crazy is that 50 euro bike is my goal right now coz I have a single gear cycle and I would really love even if I have that 50 euro bike
Yeah gotta hand it to Ollie and Manon for pointing that out at the end. It was a workhorse, it did the job, it's a beauty to someone.
It looks like the perfectly good bike for commuting / errands / riding to the pub, and not having to worry too much about it getting nicked
Ollie: "I wouldn't want to descend the Sormano on those brakes".
Hank: "Where do I sign up?"
"Hold my beer..."
I was scared to do it downhill with a canyon ultimate . I wouldn't even let my worst enemy get off with that bike
@@israeltovar3513 The Cortina Extrema can hold it for you!
Lol, true. Hank would probably also put it in the rack, to celebrate at the bottom... if he survives, of course...
"32-tooth-dinner-plate...".
Meanwhile I sit here, using my 52-tooth climbing gear every time on my MTB 😆
And you have even less tooth in the front
same here 😂
mullet bikes ftw
32-52. Basically a tractor gear.
Jesus! Cassettes go that big?!
4:52 is literally me on every climb: "Easiest gear already? Great!"😁
Yeah but it doesn't stop us tapping the lever just in case there's an easier one.
Sometimes these cheap bikes that we, simple mortals, ride everyday can surprise you for how functional they actually are. Big cheers on this video!
They are cheap because they are made of steel, which is a low cost material to build. They are very strong, functional and does the work perfectly.
And the fact is the 'high end' carbon ones are not that expensive like they claim. They just extort. They have a team that pays youtubers, commenters, that will set a narrative that the higher priced bike is reasonably priced, and there are bikes that cost even more. This reasonable price keeps increasing time to time according to the instructions of their team. This is done to drive our mindset to be ready and eager to spend more without complaining.
@@KetansaCreatesArt thanks for filling my quota of nonsense conspiracy theory for the week 😂👍
@@rboydphotography Ok glad to make your week.
@@KetansaCreatesArt I sort of agree with you. Making carbon fiber parts itself is not that difficult. The price is almost marketing
@@KetansaCreatesArt Steel bikes cost more to produce the aluminium bikes.
No matter how fancy the bike you still have to pedal it
RIP to Ollie and the fist bump that never was
So much anticipation, so much potential, and so much heartbreak.
What a classic steel beauty the Cortina is. Give the drivetrain an overhaul, install some better rim brakes and you have your perfect daily driver. Great video again!
Manon: this is why I stick to the track it's nice and flat
45% banking on the track: Am I a joke to you?
Now do it again with the dynamo headlight engaged!
Come on Ollie! You could have at least been a good sport and returned the favor of a mid climb push! Geesh, chivalry is long dead! LoL 🤣
My thoughts exactly. Why wasn't he out there during Manon's climb for moral support?
I love that Manon went straight to the bike being able to transport beers. After that climb, I am sure she needed one.
Yowamushi Pedal vibes right here XD
Ollie: "it's character building"
Onoda Sakamichi: "HAI!!!"
they should be singing hime princess theme up the climb. should help alot when climbing
@@hokagekira underrated comment
Looks like I was 1 week late to comment.
To be anime-accurate tho,that mamachari needa to have a double chainset upfront,with just a single freewheel in the rear.
Straight facts 😂👌
"These handlebars are good.....for this." LOL
I have to agree. My bike with risers is great for putting my head down on when I push too hard and want to puke.
@@Dakota_B_ it really works for that.
I tried moustache bars on a cat 4 climb on a bike with an out-of-adjustment hanger. The sheer uprightness was terrible
i hate when people who have expensive bike laugh at others bike
You know, I’m kind of proud seeing this video. Cortina bikes are produced were I live here in Zwolle (the Netherlands) and they are great commuters. Weird seeing a Dutch bike in Italy, then again I’m riding my Bianchi here so we’re trading 😅
Why would you need a triple chain ring in the Netherlands? Steepest hill is about 2%
@@matthewlemin5077 your weeks shopping is on it
Wonderful seeing you both maintain good spirits after riding the climb TWICE and the second time on the budget bike. Fun video and nice tribute to everyday bikes. Bravo Manon and Ollie!!
Great fun to watch! I did the Muro di Sormano last year for my 50th bday around the same time of year. It is a killer! I actually fell off because I didn’t want to put the foot down 😂 Kudos to both of you!!
Next video should be called “how to resume cycling on a steep incline”. Here’s a free tip from Lisbon: place yourself, ready to ride, as much to one side of the road as possible, perpendicularly to the incline, so that you can gain some momentum by completing one or two revolutions of the pedals before you face the gradient again. WARNING: do turn before you reach the other side of the road :)
Great video anyway!
Instructions unclear: I turned, but after that I arrived on the plain
I tried that on a tandem. Once. It was a very short try.
I second the tip. I do it and it helps.
As someone who's gonna start learning to ride a bike in Lisbon hills: THANK YOU!
@@lukeskywalker5418 , for more tips, search for bikebuddy.mubi.pt
Surely you could’ve rolled Lasty out for this one.
Always ready for GCN at any time of day.
Oli to Manon, "let's go out to Italy and do some great vids on innovative clothing material, bike fitting tech and a vid of us climbing a steep hill road n a shopper".
Manon to Oli, "should we of brought Hank with us for the last idea!"
Difficult to tell at times if some of the shots were arty slo mo's or in real time! Top effort.
It's a painfull, silly challenge with a lot of suffering.... where is Hank? 😂
Needs the Brick, Matt and then Emma flying past them.
The way Manon said "Ooh lovely" I think she wanted to push Ollie and his gears down the mountain
I usually pass in front of the Sormano with my Tarmac SL6 and just say “naa, not today”. The Sormano is not something useful, it’s just pain. BUT NOW THANKS TO GCN I HAVE TO TRY IT ON MY CITYBIKE THANK YOU VERY MUCH -.-“
"riding up this hill". A flipping huge mountain I think u mean
Manon wins. She used more energy her first run with harder gearing and then she helped push him up the hill a bit. So yeah she's the true winner here!
Wrong... he never asked for assistance and it was sexual harassment when she touched his backside without consent. she should be fired.
Wrong... It's the same amount of energy she would have used on a smaller gear. That's basic physics, energy can be calculated by "how hard" and "how fast" you push. One thing that comes into play when comparing them: Manon is considerably lighter than Ollie but the bike has the same weight for both of them. So if they have the same power to weight ratio Manon has a lower total power output and that makes the bike weight affect her a lot more than Ollie because she adds with that bike percentage wise more weight to her total system than him.
@@michaels5035 Can't deny the fact that smaller gear remains always easier
This is the kind of video I like from you guys... natural stuff... no advertising... or less.
But I know you have to pay the bills ;)
Uh, the whole intro about their top end Pinarello and Canyon is an ad.
@@newttella1043 well... at least the whole video isn’t an ad ... haha
You were well rested the first time and tired when you tried the cheap bike. Not a very scientific experiment. 🙄
0:08 Ollie had a false start hahahahahah
I know cyclists don't have much in the way of upper body strength, but Ollie struggling to lift a 16kg bike (with both hands) a few inches off the ground... As Biden would say: "Ahh, come on man!"
My legs caught fire watching it nevermind doing it!!
New monthly segment: the cortina extreme challenge
Should have sang “Hime, Hime...” i hear it really helps up the climb.
Suki... suki... suki, suki daisuki
HIMEEEEE
Right bike for it 😂
kira kira rin
ookiku naare mahou kakete mo
hime wa hime na no hime na no da
hime!! RABU hime FAITO
Himeee, I got a ebike because my commute goes through the rockies and I'm not at that level yet, but I always sing that when Im running out of energy and have to flip the switch and start spinning the pedal assist
if you sing Hime Hime its a FACT that you would go faster by 100%
hime hime
I always like the thought of super steep climbs in the peak district etc.
Then I get 50 miles in, half way up a 20% pitch and instantly regret my optimism.
Love the look on Manon's face when she says "lovely" at 0:59 - it translates to "why the hell did I sign up for this ! Again !!!"
“By the way this weighs 16 kg!”
That is my main road bike weight and I have no problems passing $5000 bikes on it. It’s setup for a 45 x 7 drivetrain due to the wind around here but can climb easily on it.
I’ve past a lot of $5000 bikes on bikeshare bikes when they are parked on the side of the road.
@@andyhaochizhang Nice, I don’t do “driveby’s” of those bikes I fly-by them. Sucks for me in lower part of Southern Ontario with these crazy winds down here. 90% of those bikes are always cross-chaining here, so I am on a single 47X7 ( old school 7 speed freewheel) so wind now is less of an issue and I am not cross chaining anymore. My Carbon bike actually get less usage than this $250 road bike, as it’s too light and too easy to ride ( 8 kg).
You meant to say "I can't OVERSTATE" or "I can't state ENOUGH", not "understate enough". Fyi.
Ahah you took inspiration from Alan's climb! His attempt with the graziella was epic 😁
Next video needs to be "How fast can we get this cheap bike?" Give it a good clean, and service. Air up the tires all the way, and take off all the unnecessary stuff (Racks, etc.) and run the test again.
Also ride the cheap bike first on fresh legs...
Watching this video reminds me of Alan Marangoni (GCN Italia) climbing the Zoncolan with the Graziella folding bike, back this year. Savage climbs with savage bikes.
Cyclist are being spoilt with very light bikes. Imagine what an amateur weight lifter or our grandma's thinking when a young adult tries to lift a 16kg bike and express how heavy it is. Lol...
I live for Ollie saying "thombs-op" in his accent.
Changing your own gears, but not telling her? Now, THAT's a dick move.
Oh boy.
I lived in Turin for 3 years and the flea market had stolen bikes for that kinda price.
What exactly is that "place"? 😅
So is there a 50 Euro bike that WOULD make it up (even for Manon)? I think there is... Go for a mountain bike!
She blinds everybody with her super high speed,
She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, biking machine!
Canyonero!-oh woah, Canyonero!
i dont have enought money to buy a expensive bike, and im super happy with my cheap bike and i can climb super good. Don´t laugth
GCN always making bangers. love these silly vids
many newbie filipinos can climb 30% gradient on a mountain bike including me (im 15 btw) but i can say that is pretty steep
Oli's enthusiasm for, well everything really, never ceases to amuse me. Love it!
The challenge would have been interesting if the cheaper bike was at least half of the cost of the more expensive bike. At least the results won't be so obvious.
rip oli 6:30
I bet the former owner of the Cortina Extrema bike is beaming with pride right now to have their bike featured so prominently.
The look on Manon face when Ollie said "it's a absolute tank!" 😂
Just sing love princess youll be faster on a city bike
Raburi chansu pettanko chan!
Loved it ! Now to be fair, no-one gave Manon a big push on the steepest part, right ? So... ;-)
GMBN: huh... first time climbing a wall like this?
even after living in Europe for donkeys years , percentages on gradients still never make me as terrified as the good old 1 in 4 etc ... The legs don’t feel the pain so much as the brain trying to do the math
Glad to see I’m not the only one that thinks like this!!! ;)
That's so cute they think 30% gradient is steep. 🍗🥩
Maranga´s Graziela!
I swear they just put mannon to do some stupid stuff on cheap bikes
You guys are the top gear of bikes, loving your videos!!
Just about to say the same, Ollie reminded me when Jeremy Clarkson presents a car, only with bikes. "It´s Manon´s turn to ride.... the Cortina Extreme".
Is there an affiliate link for the Cortina Extrema? Ty.
Damn 😳 Ollie is a tank I never realized how strong he is
And here I am riding my 12kg tank to work everyday
Cortina Extreme - the perfect training bike! Train heavy, race light. 😉
i wish i could have road bike yours.. i could not afford one like that...
"Don't let the beautiful surroundings fool you" It seems to me that beautiful surroundings = steep climbs. Feel free to voice your own opinion but yeah, my opinion
I live in this region, and I can confirm beautiful surroundings often mean steep climbs here! It's so satisfying to get up top though
You've clearly never been to Jenkin Road in Sheffield! haha
@@GCNuser123 fair enough there are some beautiful flat places
You should go to morgins in Switzerland and ride the "chemin de sépaz" 4,5km long 11% average 28% max
16 kilos that’s Ollie’s weight lifting done for this year
That Pinarello is sweet... as is Manon!
Love that Manon left Ollie hanging twice, he tried his best to style it out as well!!!!!!
I'm learning English with it.
Actually it's much better than BB○ learning English.
And I totally won them because I go to school top of hill by cheaper bike. Haha
"Hime hime, suki suki daisuki 🎶~" You need to yell the song to finish such climb
EYYYYY! HIME HIMEEEE!
Yowamushi pedalllll :DD Onodaaa
They needed to spin a higher cadence.
HIME HIME SUKi SUKI DAISUKI.. i kid you not.. during one of a tough climb i was actually whispering this song and made it through
hahahahaha looking for this comment when I saw that bike going up the climb
„What’s the hardest bit?“
„All of it!“
Ollie cheated! Manon helped him in the hairpin and he left her stranded!
This is good. Not unreasonable at all. There are more people on this kind of bike than those on the superbike. So you hit wider audience actually, like myself 😅
Cyclists using superbikes: "it was so hard"
Me using throwaway/junk bike: "it was so easy to Filipinos to climb this"
To all those guys that use the papajak tri-wheel single speed...yeah they'd probably be just chilling going up this hill
27% grade is week on my almost daily mtb trail ride their is a segment with a 60% grade, top that, its also dirt so you have the back tire slipping and the front tire feels like its going get of the ground and make you do a back flip almost every peddle stroke.
And i dont push it up at all
Raise the seat and pump up the tyres. And use the cheap bike first.
Plus, there's such a good feeling when you burn people off on a club ride on a cheapo bike.
Or use it to race mopets and buses.
Death wish i know but i never crashed
haha my bike is around 19kg with 3x6speed. i do climbing thou. and one of my epic was last september, 190KM with 2400m elev. gain. did it in 16hours haha... it's mental exercise :p
Strava Link: www.strava.com/activities/4067785993
You needn't have gone all the way over there Hardknot pass in the lakes is a good challenge and closer to home
Back in the day when I was a lad all those gears on a bike would have been a luxury. I remember how envious I was of my brothers Sturmey archer 4 speed Raleigh explorer!
I did that climb last summer with bags and tent, 46 - 26 lightest gear. Almost got a heart attack
My free from the side of the road Panasonic is pretty fun. Weighs almost as much as my trail bike and doesn’t have big enough or small enough gears to do anything really. Friction shifting through 10 speeds with like 12-22 cassette. There’s barely a difference. Definitely would not make that climb without a gear swap.
i bet onoda be singing through that climb