Tandem Vs Killer Climb | Hank & Si Take On The Wall Of Doom
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Tandem bikes can be really fast, especially on flatter roads, but is this the same for climbs? Si, along with seasoned tandem rider Hank, try to conquer the wall of doom to find out: can a tandem bike climb?
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A farthing penny
Hanks dad on an ebike
try tandem bike on gravel...
Dan on a BMX!
*that would make up for his failed promise from episode 1! 😝😂
Try the same bike but rotate the stocker chainring by 90°. It should result in a smoother ascent.
My 2 favorite gcn presenters in 1 video. When Hank doesn't want to do something you know it must be brutal
I think he was afraid Si would fart.
@@tquindt1 Perhaps you just discovered the motive behind the chamois cream attack.
Si? Really?
“I’m not buying you a carrot cake until we’ve done THE WALL OF DOOM”
Similar conversations I have with my three year old
These two are just naturally comical!😂
Pissed myself when Hank said “Shall we get out the saddle?” And instantly did whilst Si was counting down 5:56 😂😂😂😂😂
Shows Si was not an experienced captain, if he was he would have known instantly. As an experienced stoker Hank should have followed the captain's lead, when done right it's like a dance, fluid and graceful.
I've ridden 10's of thousands miles on a tandem and appreciate the difficulty of doing a climb like you did, great job. My cranks are set up out of phase I liked the smoother power transfer to the wheels with less peak stress on the power train. There is more of a learning curve to standing on the pedals together though. You have to be very linear in your pedaling and not rock the bike from side to side. Oh yah the stoker has a lot more control of where the bike goes than you say, if they don't lean into a turn you just might not make it out upright.The fastest I have ever gone on a bike was on my tandem, 65 mph. Passing all those single riders like they were standing still. Great video love the tandem.
I've heard it said that the stoker can't steer the tandem but can absolutely put it in the ditch. From the experiences my wife and I have had, that's very true.
Not rocking equals me not making any hill over 4 percent..
As a matter of interest, how much out of phase and who leads?
Our tandem is made by DaVinci Designs and has their independent coasting mechanism and a very wide gear range. We have never found climbing to be the challenge people warned us about. I wonder if that combination of features makes the difference? With independent coasting you can change your phase and timing at will.
@@alasdairmacdonald6730 Looking at my tandem from the right side or drive side the captains pedals are vertical to the ground with the right pedal forward, the stoker is set 90 degrees offset with the right side pedal in the down position horizontal to the ground.
Interviews on a tandem should be a new thing. Interviewing either employees of GCN or even better pros on the back of the tandem!
Good idea!
Best idea ever!
That's guaranteed to put the interview to an early end inside a ditch, along with the tandem it was being recorded on.
Watch GMBN's Random Tandem video's then, plenty of interviews on a tandem. All MTB'ers though (good thing in my eyes)
@@2dcutout yeah. Some of Martyn Ashton’s interviews have been pretty class.
Hank deserves a whole cake!
Great video, Hank looks as though he’s over tandem riding.
Last week my pilot and I went for a ride into Kangaroo Valley NSW Australia to tick a bucket list ride of mine to climb Barrengarry Mountain on my tandem. It was 563m vertical ascent at an Average gradient of 7.4% max 13%. We managed the round trip of 83km in 3hrs. But not only doing the ride but we beat my 7yo PB I had on my solo bike by a huge 3 mins.
Tandems can climb but at a steady pace.
Funniest video you lot have ever made. Worth it just for Hank's jelly baby story.
by far my favorite thing I've seen on GCN!!!
OH MY GOD, have GCN finally switched to an electric camera bike? AWESOME
I thought that too - if so then big kudos
I think it also depends where they are. If they are near to home base, its logistically practical.
I appreciate that the synchron chain is on the chain side.
Yuppers, there are some aero gains with right side timing chains.
14:07 Can't have been that bad as Simon seems to have put his glasses on during the climb! 😎
Haha! Good spot! Some continuity issues there...
Simon: "It feels more like an e-bike..."
At least an e-bike motor doesn't get grumpy and you don't have to by it cake. :D
And if you are in the back seat at least the e-bike doesn't block your view and control the brakes!!! Let's face it... Not having the ability to feather the brakes on a descent in the backseat would be unsettling for most of us. And no, not the same as riding shotgun in a car! At least passenger seat in a car has seat belts, crumple zones and airbags, etc.!
@@colinmcdonald2499 Well, you do have some cushioning in front of you, if you know what I mean...
LOL, I've often described riding a tandem with my wife is like a big heavy e-bike with a short circuit. (Usually goes out when we pass a farm with cute goats or sheep)
Mine works for Coffee, cake had no effect.
Live free, Ride hard, Get stoked.
The timing of this video is so perfect. Am learning to ride a tandem with a brother, plan on doing a tour ride next summer with another brother. Though our tandem is not awesome, it is a Burley Duet from the 90's.
Omg mates What a climb!! I feel for Hank, no water bottle but he did get the cake at the end 🙌🏽
Awesome video!!
Ignoring bikes just for a moment, was that a Bond Bug at 2:52?
2:52 The best thing ever seen on a GCMBEMBN video! The coolest 3 wheeler ever made.
Awesome. Sitting on a park bench, recharging my two headlights, resting my arse & drinking some water....awesome
I had to watch it a second time. "two pieces of cake". Love it!!
I watched the Endtoend:tandem on GCN+ after (only watched racing since you launched it) and thought about how far GCN has come since the first GCN show with Dan (lol). Good job guys
And here I am in the PAC.NW (3hrs from Vancouver Canada). I’ve had a subscription for two yrs and have seen almost no racing (blocked out over here) so for my $50 I get the presenter videos and my fav-The Legends series.
Jesus, you guys destroyed Hank! Nowhere near the usual level of energy! xD
Sounded a bit sick??
The tandem epic in GCN+ looked absolutely horrendous, especially coming so soon after his other Lands End to John O’Groats challenge.
Si having a great time in this video and Hank is just going ‘yep’.
14:12 lol. Close your eyes and imagine you heard this sound coming from behind a closed door.
"Ah! Ah! Uh! We are tandem riding gods!!!"
My wife and I love to ride our tandem. We enjoy those kind of hills in southern illinois. We have gotten stronger. But the first time there was something about the tandem that we kept going even though we we had exhausted all our energy. We collapsed sick at the top but we made it to the top. Easier now.
Really enjoyed this. Love GCN's silly side.
Beautiful bike. The extra weight up high makes standing, steering, and climbing so wild. As a captain, you can feel any time your stoker even turns their shoulders. At least the downhills are fast!
Tandems are hard work on long climbs but they don't half shift when you get them wound up on the flat and slight decent.
Small detail, but I liked the new e-bike cameraman! There is no motorbike engine buzzing around in the background. Nice upgrade champs!
Smile, happy to see Hank stick up for himself
Gotta say..that last shot of the final climb was freaking epic !!
That tandem does look like a chunky boi.
Is there a GCN Tech video about it?
Absolute textbook flouncing-off by Hank at 11:03. Can't say I blame him.
best gcn tandem... go hank... your two are my favorites
As penance, Si should ride the Random Tandem with Martyn Ashton. 😈
Well done Si and Hank! Really enjoyed watching you trying to tackle that hill - 25% on a tandem - just wow! Trying to do that on my own I would struggle...go lads!!!!!!!!!!
I was nervous for them when doing the climb in case the chain snapped. That's always my worry on the steepest climbs!
I bought an old Gitane tandem for me and my wife (and she is not a bike person at all :D) - when I forgot to switch down the gear and we tried to force through - the chain was alright, but the crank cog bended from the sheer torque :D
chains are the least of your worries there mate i am fine while going up insane mtb climbs on my middrive ebike whith a lot of tourque going through the chain there so a much lighter roadbike is fine up a steep climb what will happen first is your chain skipping but thats rather unlikely unless you have a casette with 1000s of kilometers on it and are in the smallest cog
It's usually the freehub that fails under high loads. I've gone through six on our mountain tandem. Split a Phil Wood hub in half! Unreal torque caused by two riders, incredible rear wheel traction and long wheelbase that keeps the front wheel down. Pawls like to explode!
@@dudeonbike800 I've broken a couple of rear axles some years back when I used to pus the big gears. There's a short, but steep hill near where I live, I'll only ride it on my heavy Rohloff / carbon belt drive bike as I can remain seated and it has silly low gears. Even so, I struggle to keep the front wheel on the ground as it keeps lifting as I lean as far forward as I can and keep peddling!
@@Rick--A-F You've broken freehub axles? That's impressive. I've broken a lot of axles in the past, but those were under freewheels.
Only two rear hubs seem virtually imperious to high tandem loads: the Rohloff and Chris King. So, good choice for you! Again, a mountain tandem won't ever lift the front wheel, no matter what the effort. Double the weight over the rear wheel virtually eliminates rear wheel traction loss. We've toasted two hubs on Moab's famous Slickrock trail for obvious reasons: unreal steep climbs on the best traction surface ever!
A two person bicycle requires a certain level of tacit understanding. If two people step synchronously and cooperate perfectly, it can achieve high-speed cruising. I am the leader of a two person bicycle, yes. My partner is blind, but it's just the darkness of my environment and team. So I left. I am now looking for a team with a good environment to cooperate with. Thank you🎉
Nice. Can't believe I'm seeing more tandem content. Whoda thunk?
Nice job. Damn, climbing that in a 58/42 on a TANDEM??? Crazy. I'm surprised the freehub survived.
BTW, for quick starts & stops, best for the stoker to stay clipped in. And starting off, let your stoker clip in first. That way you aren't both searching for the pedal and riding like two unbalanced fish out of water!
I am impressed that the wheels took the weight.
I'd love to see a Tandem Descent Vs 2 Bike Slip Streaming!
A Bond Bug! Wind back the video! Super cool!
No matter how miserable the challenge notice how quickly the inevitable smiles arrived.
How did I miss this absolute gem.
So and Hank pls get the tandem out again. Funny as Hahahaha and get Hank a French gateaux at the end 🚴👍
My wife and I rode up Timmelsjoch in the Alps on our tandem when we were younger. Certainly no kom time but we got up together.
Great to hear the lack of motorbike and the whine of an e-moped.
Hi, fun video :-) You guys should do the Ronde van Vlaanderen - cyclo with this tandem, it would be a fun challenge. I have done it this year alone on a single bike (was already quite hard for an amateur like me) but I saw a couple on a tandem going up these 20% slopes on cobblestones... it was quite impressive.
I just pushed my chair a few meters back while watching this. how much power!
If they enjoyed this they need to try the Chilly Hilly outside of Seattle in February.
If Hank doesn't want to do something just threaten him with a Penny Farthing.
There's a yearly competition for blind cyclists near me - they ride in the back on tandems with sighted people in the front. They seem to climb the pretty hilly roads near me no problem, and on the flats they do like 60 km/h no problem :)
What a video! What an achievement!
Lol wait.. Si without glasses ( 13:56 ) and then with glasses ( 14:10 ) without getting out of the bike?!.. hahahahah
Haha! Prospect place is such a monster climb. Definitely the Grandaddy of hills in Bath and North East Somerset.
Best duo 😍🔥🔥
a 58x42? Oh my god! Imagine if you had a smaller chainring up front? You guys rock!
Si, you did half the climb without glasses and then you put them on?? :D I believe there is some kind of trick...
Great job! Epic
What a fantastic show. 100% both got A-grades in their theatre-/actor lessons xD
There is a couple in my neighborhood who ride their tandem every day very slowly around the neighborhood. They are both at least 75 years old. Its cute.
poor Hank. Loved this video
Offset the cranks slightly and it wont squirm. More efficient through the deadspot too.
One reason why tandems can't climb steep hills is that the body english and the arm work required to steady the tandem takes a lot of effort, effort that's normally going towards propelling the bike forwards. Then, there's the psychological aspect. When you stomp on a (single) bike, the whole bike jets forward, especially out of the saddle. The same effort on a tandem, things barely move. And that's dispiriting, because you gotta do it over and over on the tough bits.
Respect from swiss
Bath to Colerne? Decent climb, that!
Great video but there is a much better technique for starting and stopping. Captain gets on first, standing over top tube, with legs well apart, and holds tandem upright while stoker gets on, clips in both feet, and sets pedals ready for start. Captain then counts in start and starts same as single bike. Stopping is reverse - captain only puts feet down unless stoker getting off. Captain needs to keep feet far enough apart to keep legs clear of pedals. This means stoker never has trouble clipping in.
Can't believe Si is complaining about his arms after doing all those press ups...
Wasn’t sure where the chamois cream story was going 🤣
Great effort team❤❤ can you guys change the gearing on the bike
i bet the traffic on the london road and in batheaston loved you guys!
Theoretically, a tandem bike should be more "aero" than 2 separate bikes, so such a set would show a claw on flat terrain. In any case, a fun and informative video, synchronization of cyclists is essential.
Would love to see you guys take on that street in Harlech, it used to be the Guiness record holder, its a damn hard walk so what it would be like on a bike I cannot imagine 🙂
It’s just the best video !
Soooo funny.
Hope you do feather vs tandem
СИФАК 😂😂😂😂😂
Эх сразу школьные времена вспомнил ))))
I was more excited when the Bond Bug drove by behind them.
Sounds weird, but that wheelset is bombproof.
All that puffing and panting made me think I was listening to the end of “Big Love” by Fleetwood Mac.
Correct tandem crankset for the rear so you can run the sync chain in the non drive side.
The a 53/36 on the rear. Then it will scoot up that climb.
With power to weight, the best scenario would be two people with the same ratio. Anything else will put the pair at a disadvantage. So matched ratios then brings in that the bike is heavier so you are at a small disadvantage.
2:52 Is that the Bond Bug from Richard Hammond’s Workshop?
Well done Hank for getting on it again
Has GCN gone electric for their filming vehicles?! How did I not notice earlier!
The code word for clipping out should have been ''Ollie''. 😀
Hank should have ask for a whole cake for that torture
Awesome ride, guys! Love it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
do people normally drive bond bugs around bath?
Was Hank actually ill? He sounds sick/tired. Hope he's doing ok.
I would love to see more Si with Hank, Manon a Connor by the way.
I think the easiest way to hook up some one about Cycling could be with a tandem...
I mean we can get them farther faster talking on the way mechanic on board and on top of it if they get tired we can get them home.
I which I had one it could show my family that there are other figures shapes than round 😉
Greetings from Dominican republic 🇩🇴
Atleast you have more grip like that c:
Size of that chain!!!
My grand pa said he did this for 10 miles in a blizzard, hurricane, and tornado uphill both ways just to get to school
Nice vid. I am sure Hank does more work now than what he did as a pro 😅. He must be due a jolly, poor lad 🤣
I lost count how many times I LOL'd 🤣
Nice tag team
The luxury limo of bikes.
the record attempt really broke hank completely and utterly uh? he's properly TRAUMATISED just being in the vicinity of that tandem!
I have owned a tandem for 30 years, I can say that they climb terribly, even with proper gearing. I changed my crank to a triple 2 years ago and now my wife will ride with me again. The crank was a 57x44 when I used to race it.
We need mr feather on that bike and one of the crew to see if 2 can beat a time that one rider can do double the power
Oooo! a Bond Bug!