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Arch. Finish the Beast Arises series... after you're done with the Horus Heresy. Seriously, you're going to leave a lot of people baffled as fuck without explaining the whole 'Ork Primarch(s)" thing. Also I just want to hear your reaction to Vulkan's reaction to the state of m32 Imperium.
Now I can't get the image of a grey knight rambling on like Dan Aykroyd spouting insane techno babble about Daemons and classes of warp entities. Totally beats their usual portrayal.
In short: Deathwatch takes an otherwise average marine with a healthy hatred of Xenos, and proceeds to Clockwork Orange them into murderous psychopaths who froth at the mouth at the mere sight of aliens. All in all a very wholesome organization.
For those wondering how the Death Watch manage to get their hands on so much shiny gear: There are Blood Ravens in the Death Watch. Now the real question is how they manage to KEEP said shiny gear when they have Blood Ravens in their ranks.
The Blood Ravens are their trainers when it comes to the art of receiving gifts. Their downtime is spent receiving gifts from their fellow Deathwatch members without them realizing it.
There must be a highly heretical deal between Blood Ravens and Ordo Xenos, there must be a renting system, or Blood Ravens get first dibs on loot on warzones.
@@zigmundfreiheit7222 The blood ravens don't know there own history as such they do what they can to discover there own history such as stealing relics, some of these relics are from other space marine chapters, this gets to the point that the entire chapter is for the most part a bunch of kleptomaniacs and will steal anything they can get their hands on including chaos weapons/artifacts.
i loved that scene from one of the novels featuring a space wolf who just came home from the deathwatch, showing how his swordmanship improved by learing form other chapters. later there is a flashback were he and an ultramarine parts ways and sadly remark how, should they ever meet again while beeing alongside their brothers, the wolf will have to treat the marine like a snob, while the other will treat the wolf like a feral beast.
Sherab Tod I don’t see why the sons of russ hate the thousand sons and have a brotherly rivalry with the dark angels but they should be on good terms with the other chapters, If you’re less able to put aside your differences then regular humans then you have failed the emperor, as an inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos once said “space marines must surpass regular humans in every way”
All I’m thinking of right now is how cool it would be to have a Star Wars republic commando-like 40k game where you play as a squad of Deathwatch marines!
When my team had a blood Raven joining us we used him to infiltrate xenos forts by ordering him to "borrow" their weapons such as most recently a fucking Tau battlesuit that was conveniently made to be space Marine sized, while he would sneak about xeno bases taking their shit the rest of my team would just place explosives around key locations which after the magpie finds what he wants the team would get the hell out of Dodge then detonate the charges. We still do that to this day
Only those of the demonic warp should fear the grey knights . That's what the grey knights Do, hunt demons .put grey knights up against nids, or necrons then they will struggle somewhat as that's not their area of expertise. Fighting chaos? Yeah grey knights all the way. Fighting orks? Hmm better off with a different Adaptus Astartes chapter .crimson fists have alot of experience with fighting orks. Plus they look cool .
@@adamduffield7782 grey knights maybe specialized for daemon but they are much more powerful and have better teamwork than any space marine chapter not to mention their equipment which is specialized for daemons but is also much much more advance than even deathwatch equipment
It would be a good match. The death watch could win though so dont rule them out. Their speciality is about having something for everything. And the best who can use it. Very knights are great warriors and powerful psykers but the death watch have answers for that. Like psyk out grenades and better weaponry with the same tech. Sooooo yea
@@codypannell9463 yeah they could win but it will not be in the deathwatch favor if they go againts the grey knight they are the very pinnacle of disipline and teamwork and they have the most advance tech for a space marine in the imperium on par with or more advance than the custodes
Arch Warhammer, I just wanted to thank you for even attempting this. The lore is such a mess most guys don’t bother to cover it and here you are with an hour long vid. I know Majorkill gives you grief about the long vids but we as fans definitely appreciate the long form format. Thanks again mate. The Emperor protects.
Its from "If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device Special 2: 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐩 𝐇𝐢𝐣𝐢𝐧𝐤𝐬" by Bruva Alfabusa when a Tempestus trooper mentioned that he read about the warp in a book.
me and my friends in deathwatch rpg: there is a enemy fortress.... imperial fist: i will build a fortress! Iron hand: i will stand here and build a canon! Black templar: i will use a tyranid as a ramm and charge the fortress! Dark Angel: I will watch the black templar and tell all of you nothing what happens!
Space Wolf: Charge in FOR THE GLORY! Blood Angel: Charge in and KEEP YOUR COOL! Black Templar: Charge in and PURGE HERETICS! Salamanders: Burn everything without killing civilians. White Scars: Gotta go fast.
Flesh Tearers: Charge in and RIP THOSE FILTHY XENOS APART. Marines Malevolent: Never actually see combat because every other marine has to punch them in the teeth on principal and spend their entire deployment either in the med bay or getting kicked in the dick.
@@barbatosmcmurderton4209 As a Flesh Tearer Assult marine this speaks to me, as I a wipe out entire hoards in a few swings with my chainaxe and chainsword
edgy cry-babbies with an aloha snackbar complex due to guilt of being loyal and crushing an uprising on their planet. Also possibly heavy mental degradation due to their pseudo-cloning rapid breeding process. In other words: completely mental dudes whose only claim to fame is "hey they look cool" but beyond that are probably among the stupidest IG regiments ever designed in terms of their tactics and lack any and all personality beyond "GASMASK". I honestly have no ideea why people pretend the deathkorps are ANYTHING worth talking about when Tallarn, Ellysian drop troops, The tanith First and Only, The Steel legion, The Iron Guard (ok maybe not them, they are as stupid as the Corps) and numerous other more fleshed out regiments with actual personality exist.
93Avenger93 he's already talked about the iron guard, and the Korps are freaking awesome. Something about men fixing bayonets and then charging a tank division because FUCK LIVING!!!!!!!!
yeah, I did read their history. Their guardsmen are fun one off gimmicks to throw into an RP or something, and cool aesthetics, but as far as army character goes, they took Chenkov's insanity and disregard for life and turned him into an entire army. And it sucks precisely because of that. One general that throws lives away as if they are nothing? Great. An entire army built on the principle that their lives mean nothing? The text-book definition of a useless military formation. Same principles as the Repentia actually. A small subset of guilt driven suicidal nuns with giant swords in an army of zealots? Awesome! But if the ENTIRE Sororitas was just Repentia ... they would suck and make no sense as a formation. Corpsmen are so stupid, they can't even work alongside other guard regiments, because their edgy "woe is me I want to die and have no personality beyond a number" antics are so depressing and annoying, deploying a corps regiment can sometimes have a worse impact on morale than learning the enemy rebel guardsmen just got reinforced by chaos marines. they are a shit force built on a shit gimmick who get by on cool looks and suffer from a criminal case of no personality. Which is suppose is great if you want to project your own personality on them, but then again, the moment you do that they are no longer Death Korps of Krieg but deranged cosplayers. The death korps are not interesting. The only interesting thing is the campaigns where they happen to deploy, and honestly those would be MASSIVELY improved by replacing the death korps with ANY OTHER REGIMENT that has an actual personality and combat tactics beyond "charge and die". Vraks was interesting not because the death korps were there, it was interesting because of the inquisition meta-plot and the demon conflicts where characters with ACTUAL PERSONALITY were present while the korps died in the background and did not matter since the world was de facto lost anyway. The major claim to fame of the death korps ... is a defeat where they achieved neither the campaign objective (reclaim the world - failed as it became a quarantined wasteland) nor the tactical one (reclaim the munition caches - all consumed in the war). Poetic given how stupid they are as a military formation.
93Avenger93 Iron guard and stupid? Man... They just use more usefull strategy, they have companies of 12 baneblades and every Infantry units has its own Leman Russ and they uniforms are upgraded with flak and carapice armor. They are extremly good at killing massive armies, because of theirs tactics. And they are probably only planet what hold chaos invasion without SM or other help. And they did it 2 fucking times.
A ragtag bunch of Space Marines from different chapters have to work together and become true broters to finaly become a Deathwatch squad! Best movie of 2018!
Deathwatch, for when you like space marines but can't just pick one chapter.... and my first army. I love these guys. Gotta buy some custom shoulder pads to get more representation
Ahh, I remember when I joined the Deathwatch...I ended up leading my own squad, and even brought them all back from the Mission. Shame that they died though, good thing I had enough chains to hook them to my body. It was almost as gruesome as being in a painglove!
Arse smith they are like brothers, on a side note have you noticed that in real life there’s no joint military unit? (There probably is but it’s more than likely highly classified)
@@dionjaywoollaston1349 there is plenty of joint military units, however it's a bit weird of a cluster fuck. If you mean joint unit similar to space marines so same overall faction just different cogs working together then when I was in the military i had a good 3 month time meshed with a marine recon team, a contingent of British infantry, some Japanese SDF, my own unit being US Army Airborne task force, along with some attachments of other army units stationed cross country from us all working together.The biggest issue the grunts had with each other? We ran out of our own tobacco preference and had to cross trade for skinny long english smokes and they had to trade for dip lol.
Me Me something like that but the deathwatch is more like rainbow six because recruitment is extremely specific even more so than joining the Astartes, they typically don’t recruit more than one space marine
@@dionjaywoollaston1349 The Deathwatch is more like Delta Force than Rainbow Six because Delta recruits exclusively from the various US Special Forces that exist, just like how the Deathwatch exclusively recruits from other Space Marine chapters. Rainbow Six is more like the temporary alliances you see in the novels (Eldar mostly) because Rainbow Six hires from multiple countries' Special Forces, not just the one.
@@TripleBarrel06 yes but they recruit marines with an aptitude for xeno killing, same as rainbow six recruits soldiers from counterterrorism units. And the recruits come from chapters with widely different traditions, doctrines and chapter culture like the space wolves and dark angels. Rainbow six as you said recruits from different countries that have different cultures. Delta force recruits from a single nations military
Ok just a thought Imagine being a single Spacewolf sent to the Deathwatch, only to find that you're in a full sized kill team with 11 Dark Angels, part of a larger fortress housing only more Dark Angels or their various Successor Chapters
Thank you Arch Warhammer today is my birthday and you've made my day a thousand times better cuz so far it's just been a boring summer Friday but this this is awesome thank you.
When I first heard of the Deathwatch, I did not expect them to run an (admittedly hyper aggressive) team building workshop. I'm now imagining space marines sat in circles being forced to make awkward small talk and perform trust falls, followed by the further team building exercise of beating to death anyone who didn't catch their partner.
At least with an ork you know what to expect... sure making a deal with them maybe hard but they will respect there part of the deal... not like the eldar who will backstab you
@@thanquolrattenherz9665 1. You need to deal with the warboss. 2. It need to be simple. Ex:Go smash those chaos worshippers(say that they said that mork ...
I have only two regrets in life. 1. That arch lore videos and time alive is finite. 2. That Arch is not a editor at black library. Emperor preserve us in these dark times...
Fatshark's next game should be a deathwatch game. You get different chapters, you get to play as astartes and you could choose your class and you get some cool cosmetics. Oh and before I forget we get to purge some filthy xenos.
There's no reason to have White Scar and a Raven Guard: just have a Black Templar Dreadnought and a White Scar Librarian in the same room and see what happens.
You reminded me of a lieutenant that got deployed to Kosovo. Before entering building in the camp everyone was required to clear their weapon by pointing it into a barrel filled with sand and pull the trigger, after removing the clip. This lieutenant emptied the entire clip into the barrel one round at a time, and then had trouble getting the pistol back into the holster because the slide was locked open by the now empty clip.
I look at 40k, and most things are covered in skulls and tomes, but then I look at the corvus blackstar, then I say "ah finally a sci-fi looking vehicle in 40k"
An excellent video as always :D The Deathwatch is one of cooler SM sub-factions I've seen :) I keep wanting to see the skull's eyes flashing as you speak though :D
I said it in your livestream with no response. I hope you see it here :) MUCH love from Denmark! Keep the videoes comming! The way you talk and describe things is amazing and keeps it very interesting. Keep it up! :)
Dire I'm sure that if we listened to an hour of anyone's speech you'd find a given thing they use as a filler. In Archs case it could be for a quick translation check in his head for example.
And the most points expensive for what you get of the Adeptus Astartes also. Although it's nice having a mixed bag 'bastard squad' of different types of unit, I love that part of the 8th edition rules.
Deathwatch did elite elite elites correctly. Their advantage is a relatively minor initial investment in gear, and just tactical flexibility in being able to bring the right chapter for any task... if provided a bit of time or plot convenience.
...also, it let's them do interactions between chapters so absurdly easy and will any degree of "exception" to the norm they want. Genius idea in many ways.
Welcome to a game called Who's Chapter is it Anyway? where the fluff is slightly irrelevant and the points are too expensive to justify any significant competitive edge. (At least thats what I'm feeling thus far, still fresh to it all)
Speaking of muscle memory. When ever I play a video game with friends and they ask me "what button does this" I can't answer them. I have to hold the controller and remember which one does it. I'm 35 and I STILL remember the button inputs for some of the fatalities from the old Mortal Kombat games.
My head cannon for the deathwatch's autonomy is that originally they were subordinate to an individual inquisitor on missions. While their record for completing missions was impeccable, the inquisitor in charge of them always seemed to perish to a 'xenos' bolter round to the back of the head. The inquisition quickly realized that the emperor's avenging angels might not be taking getting ordered around by manlets of varying competence very well, and quickly granted them more autonomy rather than give up such an effective military asset.
On the Raven Guard and White Scar pairing. They would both get along for the most part if both Battle brothers where both from the 3rd company of their respective chapters.
Wow arch. Huge mistake here. The Beast didn't bread a special kind of orks. It just triggered a boost in the orks' evolution process which made them advance far more rapidly. And as of the "Prime Orks", it is just a step in their evolution as well. Remember : the orks have bascally unlimited growth and development potential. So could Mag Uruk Thraka (which translates to "I am slaughter" in orkish btw) be the new Beast ? ;) So yes, The Beast Arises is sillly. But I think it is a valuable addition to the lore as well. That aside, GW really needs to make up their mind ! First the Legion of the Damned, and now this !? xD
He didn't just trigger a step in ork evolution, he was reverting them to the Krork stage. The stage ment to fight the Necrons during the war in the heavens
Pardon me Arch, how does a chapter master factor into the 1000 space marines? Is he part of the 1st company or separate? Thank you for your time. Bentnails
Except the Tau are about the only race that could develop depth-charge bombs tested extensively to target only Tyranid-type matter, being highly destructive to its genetic origins while leaving all other forms of matter untouched; develop this with range to reach past the Milky Way. So, unless the Eldar can develop more Ethereals, the Imperium of Man may well have doomed the Galaxy by killing the Tau Ethereals. failure to discern the danger relative to possible usefulness of Xeno races prevents the truly Sentient races from helping to save all from the Xeno races that can't be reasoned with, namely the overgrown invasive parasite
@@spiral-viper No, ESPECIALLY the Tau. They get killed first. Keep the Craftworld Eldar though- apparent the Emperor has plans for their asses. Specifically their asses. As in, literally just the asses, nothing else. Our liege has strange requests...
I'm a newbie looking to start my 40k collection with the Deathwatch Chapter of the Space Marine. Your video is by far the most indepth in explaining the chapter. Thanks.
I really have to say I loved how happy the orks seemed to be when you show up in "Space Marine". Like you show up to their front door drenched in the blood and viscera of their friends chainsword in hand spewing smurfy bullshit and the orks are just like "oh fuck yeah now THIS is a good krump"
Just the thought of a classroom like setting, having a Teacher (inquisitor) telling the astartes not to kill one another, only to then simply lock them into thier chairs and mentally torture them until they comply, then smiling all nice, asking. "Any more questions?"
Yes. It's 2.00am. I'm sprawled on my bed, really drunk and just a little, tiny bit, stoned out of f**king mind. And Arch has posted a lore video for me to listen to as the room spins. You Arch are an absolute legend mate. Cheers.
Heavy Bolters with flamers attached, gargantuan Thunder Hammers, and exceptionally well-crafted everything. Salamanders must _love_ getting seconded to the Deathwatch.
I’m sorry to hear that you don’t plan on finishing the Beast series - I actually enjoyed it. I enjoyed it so much even that I started to buy the audiobooks off Audible so I could listen to them while driving. Still, I assume that since you’ve covered the Deathwatch now, you’re gonna do a video on the other elite Astartes groups, like the Grey Knights... maybe even Primaris Marines 😋
Arch, I do wish you would finish the Beast Arises series. It may get silly, but you do review it rather entertainingly. Plus there are events that happen later on I'd enjoy seeing your reaction to. Some thoughts on this video, many chapters themselves take into account potential conflicts that can arise. For example the Black Templars have a severe dislike for Psykers, even sanctioned imperial psykers barely get the time of day from them. When deciding on someone to second to the Deathwatch (which they do consider a great honor) they have to take into account on whether whomever they send can set aside those beliefs in order to work with Librarians from other chapters.
When a non marine player shows up at local game store, they draw everyone's attention who then proceed to explain why they should lose the non marine army and get thier preferred elite chapter marines.
2:35 - 3:00 and that is why my headcanon for that series is that the Orks WAAAAAGH! infected the entire galaxy including all life making everyone, for a time, more orky. 45:18 The Custodians gave the spears to the Deathwatch in exchange for some of the more... exotic oils Deathwatch has come across.
Now that you have covered 2/3 of the chamber militans of the inquisition (adepta soraritas and deathwatch)...can we get the best out of them all...the Grey Knight, guys so far up the OP scale that one of them destroyed the black blade of angrond!
Chosen Rubric old but I believe Black Shields are their own Inquisitorial branch as Black Shield Astartes are often Loyal Space Marines from Traitor/Renegade Chapters that could not stop their former brothers. This is also supported by the fact that the black shield gain almost to legion size because they took in loyal Astartes who believed they failed in some way and if theories are to be believed took in Astartes from Traitor legions looking for redemption.
@@ricosintron2075 The Heresy-era Blackshield tradition got transferred entirely to the Deathwatch. Any Battle Brothers that feel the need to abandon their chapter join the Watch instead of forming their own units. There hadn't been any large-scale formations of Blackshields since the Heresy.
I think he means the marines that refuse to go back to their parent chapter or are in exile. I recall recently listing to a space marine short story where the witty sharp tonged space marine was a black shield of the death watch. The whole story others were attempting to acquire about his chapter (even joking about the rainbow warriors). It wasn't until the end where he sacrificed himself and let the black rage take him that he stated he was a son of Sanguinis - a Blood Angel.
reminds me of the Deathwatch Tabletop session... 2 Dark Angels, one of them Squad leader (and Inducted), A Black Templar and a Space Wolf. that were almost fun times for my Squad leader...
I always assumed the Deathwatch would at least number 20,000+ space marines, at least if they were to ever have the slightest hope of making the smallest difference on a galactic scale xD The Imperium consists of millions of worlds with countless alien threats that can strike at any moment across wildly different sectors. Properly distributing those few thousand battle brothers to deal with alien threats of inquisitorial interest would be a nigh impossible on a galactic scale, and let's not mention the logistical nightmare it'd be to make send the few Deathwatch there were to any theater of war before the show was already over! xD
SinerAthin in defense of it, understand that the Ordo Xenos is primarily self sufficient in its acts, and rarely require marines for anything but extreme specialist maneuvers, say the capture and escort of a Zoanthrope to a magos biologis genetor. Otherwise they use stormtroopers of the ordos tempestus. Granted, I think they probably number something like 3k or so, because they still need numbers for various reason.
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MORE HORUS HERESEY ARCH.
Hey there wasn’t an add here in America just an fyi
Arch. Finish the Beast Arises series... after you're done with the Horus Heresy.
Seriously, you're going to leave a lot of people baffled as fuck without explaining the whole 'Ork Primarch(s)" thing. Also I just want to hear your reaction to Vulkan's reaction to the state of m32 Imperium.
you say phase sword, I hear "face sword" and start thinking - Deatwatch has some really fucked up weapons...
The Deathwatch. They are the Imperium's 'Pest Control' just like the Grey Knights are the Imperium's 'Ghostbusters.'
"...to put it bluntly."
Who ya gonna call grey knights
Aye I agree with this assumption
Now I can't get the image of a grey knight rambling on like Dan Aykroyd spouting insane techno babble about Daemons and classes of warp entities. Totally beats their usual portrayal.
Internet Zen Master send this to the Guy who made the emperor with a text to speech device. He would definitely make a video on both of these ideas.
In short: Deathwatch takes an otherwise average marine with a healthy hatred of Xenos, and proceeds to Clockwork Orange them into murderous psychopaths who froth at the mouth at the mere sight of aliens. All in all a very wholesome organization.
Mikazuchi Wouldn't it be a reverse Clockwork Orange?
Someone plays ET in front of one of them
**Seething unfathomable RAGE**
Only the most wholesome & good Marines for the Emperor
Death to the xenos!
Robert Lewis “You forgot the heretic and the mutant, you shall now be summarily blamed...”
For those wondering how the Death Watch manage to get their hands on so much shiny gear:
There are Blood Ravens in the Death Watch.
Now the real question is how they manage to KEEP said shiny gear when they have Blood Ravens in their ranks.
The Blood Ravens stay as veterans
The Blood Ravens are their trainers when it comes to the art of receiving gifts. Their downtime is spent receiving gifts from their fellow Deathwatch members without them realizing it.
@@elysiankentarchy1531 Could I know what the stealing is about
There must be a highly heretical deal between Blood Ravens and Ordo Xenos, there must be a renting system, or Blood Ravens get first dibs on loot on warzones.
@@zigmundfreiheit7222 The blood ravens don't know there own history as such they do what they can to discover there own history such as stealing relics, some of these relics are from other space marine chapters, this gets to the point that the entire chapter is for the most part a bunch of kleptomaniacs and will steal anything they can get their hands on including chaos weapons/artifacts.
i loved that scene from one of the novels featuring a space wolf who just came home from the deathwatch, showing how his swordmanship improved by learing form other chapters. later there is a flashback were he and an ultramarine parts ways and sadly remark how, should they ever meet again while beeing alongside their brothers, the wolf will have to treat the marine like a snob, while the other will treat the wolf like a feral beast.
Sherab Tod I don’t see why the sons of russ hate the thousand sons and have a brotherly rivalry with the dark angels but they should be on good terms with the other chapters,
If you’re less able to put aside your differences then regular humans then you have failed the emperor, as an inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos once said “space marines must surpass regular humans in every way”
@@dionjaywoollaston1349 They did, surpassing the rivalries between ideologies, and surpassing the racism/specism. lol
All I’m thinking of right now is how cool it would be to have a Star Wars republic commando-like 40k game where you play as a squad of Deathwatch marines!
Space hulk deathwing
Abserd O So like a the old SW:Battlefront 2 or SW Battlefront Squadrons
@@purrmitivo288 not quite but closest we got
There is a Deathwatch game, it's not bad but it is rather short and repetitive.
id buy it, re-creat my favourite veterans (got quite the stockpile to choose from) and roll with it
"Best and brightest" otherwise known as professional exterminators for the worst roach problem in the galaxy.
Kyber Cat Problems. Orkz and Tyranids are just two of them.
Still that's the most common thing they will be fighting 90% of the time. therefore "bugs and fungus." They are the bug guys of 40k
Kyber Cat Who ya gonna call!?
Kyber Cat n
the good thing about the Deathwatch: they let survivors live, if there are any.
Finally lore * injects into arm*
JUST HOOK IT INTO MY VEEEEIIIINS!
Just main line that shit.
it hurts so good
This.
Where is the mechacanaicus so i can get a direct feed from a backpack unit into my brain-port?? Bring it on!!!
“Here’s a random ass advertisement”
*complete silence*
Mine was for a Honda CRV
Mine was about condoms
someone uses an ad-blocker
@@denym123 it's called youtube premium ya dumb bitch
I didint get en add and i dont have en add blocker nor i have yt premium
And whenever a Blood Raven joins, the Deathwatch make damn sure to lock the reliquary.
they always manage to bring back some "gifts" though.
When my team had a blood Raven joining us we used him to infiltrate xenos forts by ordering him to "borrow" their weapons such as most recently a fucking Tau battlesuit that was conveniently made to be space Marine sized, while he would sneak about xeno bases taking their shit the rest of my team would just place explosives around key locations which after the magpie finds what he wants the team would get the hell out of Dodge then detonate the charges. We still do that to this day
It won't matter.
BOLT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.
They’ll take everything, even the lock
Ah, the Deathwatch, the finest and best equipped chapter of Space Marines in the galaxy....
...And then a team of Grey Knights terminators walk by
nuclear flamethrowers sound more like the kind of safe equipment Skaven might use
Only those of the demonic warp should fear the grey knights . That's what the grey knights Do, hunt demons .put grey knights up against nids, or necrons then they will struggle somewhat as that's not their area of expertise.
Fighting chaos? Yeah grey knights all the way. Fighting orks? Hmm better off with a different Adaptus Astartes chapter .crimson fists have alot of experience with fighting orks. Plus they look cool .
@@adamduffield7782 grey knights maybe specialized for daemon but they are much more powerful and have better teamwork than any space marine chapter not to mention their equipment which is specialized for daemons but is also much much more advance than even deathwatch equipment
It would be a good match. The death watch could win though so dont rule them out. Their speciality is about having something for everything. And the best who can use it. Very knights are great warriors and powerful psykers but the death watch have answers for that. Like psyk out grenades and better weaponry with the same tech. Sooooo yea
@@codypannell9463 yeah they could win but it will not be in the deathwatch favor if they go againts the grey knight they are the very pinnacle of disipline and teamwork and they have the most advance tech for a space marine in the imperium on par with or more advance than the custodes
Arch Warhammer, I just wanted to thank you for even attempting this.
The lore is such a mess most guys don’t bother to cover it and here you are with an hour long vid.
I know Majorkill gives you grief about the long vids but we as fans definitely appreciate the long form format.
Thanks again mate.
The Emperor protects.
"White scars and ravenguard hate each other"
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE
Ducky Man Yes. Naturally. Except I read about that lore on the wiki.
"I read"
heretic
NERD!!!
Fenrir That’s like yelling quire wt a pride parade. No one cares.
Its from "If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device Special 2: 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐩 𝐇𝐢𝐣𝐢𝐧𝐤𝐬" by Bruva Alfabusa when a Tempestus trooper mentioned that he read about the warp in a book.
me and my friends in deathwatch rpg: there is a enemy fortress....
imperial fist: i will build a fortress!
Iron hand: i will stand here and build a canon!
Black templar: i will use a tyranid as a ramm and charge the fortress!
Dark Angel: I will watch the black templar and tell all of you nothing what happens!
Space Wolf: Charge in FOR THE GLORY!
Blood Angel: Charge in and KEEP YOUR COOL!
Black Templar: Charge in and PURGE HERETICS!
Salamanders: Burn everything without killing civilians.
White Scars: Gotta go fast.
Flesh Tearers: Charge in and RIP THOSE FILTHY XENOS APART.
Marines Malevolent: Never actually see combat because every other marine has to punch them in the teeth on principal and spend their entire deployment either in the med bay or getting kicked in the dick.
@@barbatosmcmurderton4209 While in the med-bay the apothecary repeatably kicks the marines malevolent in the dick.
Ultramarines: You bruvas are a bunch of maniacs
@@barbatosmcmurderton4209 As a Flesh Tearer Assult marine this speaks to me, as I a wipe out entire hoards in a few swings with my chainaxe and chainsword
BROTHER WE REQUIRE INFORMATION ON THE DEATH KORPS OF KRIEG
For the emperor...please
edgy cry-babbies with an aloha snackbar complex due to guilt of being loyal and crushing an uprising on their planet. Also possibly heavy mental degradation due to their pseudo-cloning rapid breeding process.
In other words: completely mental dudes whose only claim to fame is "hey they look cool" but beyond that are probably among the stupidest IG regiments ever designed in terms of their tactics and lack any and all personality beyond "GASMASK".
I honestly have no ideea why people pretend the deathkorps are ANYTHING worth talking about when Tallarn, Ellysian drop troops, The tanith First and Only, The Steel legion, The Iron Guard (ok maybe not them, they are as stupid as the Corps) and numerous other more fleshed out regiments with actual personality exist.
93Avenger93 he's already talked about the iron guard, and the Korps are freaking awesome. Something about men fixing bayonets and then charging a tank division because FUCK LIVING!!!!!!!!
93Avenger93 the Korps? Boring? Have you even read into them, the history, the special formations, anything? You , sir, have a very different taste.
yeah, I did read their history.
Their guardsmen are fun one off gimmicks to throw into an RP or something, and cool aesthetics, but as far as army character goes, they took Chenkov's insanity and disregard for life and turned him into an entire army. And it sucks precisely because of that.
One general that throws lives away as if they are nothing? Great. An entire army built on the principle that their lives mean nothing? The text-book definition of a useless military formation. Same principles as the Repentia actually. A small subset of guilt driven suicidal nuns with giant swords in an army of zealots? Awesome! But if the ENTIRE Sororitas was just Repentia ... they would suck and make no sense as a formation.
Corpsmen are so stupid, they can't even work alongside other guard regiments, because their edgy "woe is me I want to die and have no personality beyond a number" antics are so depressing and annoying, deploying a corps regiment can sometimes have a worse impact on morale than learning the enemy rebel guardsmen just got reinforced by chaos marines.
they are a shit force built on a shit gimmick who get by on cool looks and suffer from a criminal case of no personality. Which is suppose is great if you want to project your own personality on them, but then again, the moment you do that they are no longer Death Korps of Krieg but deranged cosplayers.
The death korps are not interesting. The only interesting thing is the campaigns where they happen to deploy, and honestly those would be MASSIVELY improved by replacing the death korps with ANY OTHER REGIMENT that has an actual personality and combat tactics beyond "charge and die". Vraks was interesting not because the death korps were there, it was interesting because of the inquisition meta-plot and the demon conflicts where characters with ACTUAL PERSONALITY were present while the korps died in the background and did not matter since the world was de facto lost anyway. The major claim to fame of the death korps ... is a defeat where they achieved neither the campaign objective (reclaim the world - failed as it became a quarantined wasteland) nor the tactical one (reclaim the munition caches - all consumed in the war). Poetic given how stupid they are as a military formation.
93Avenger93 Iron guard and stupid? Man... They just use more usefull strategy, they have companies of 12 baneblades and every Infantry units has its own Leman Russ and they uniforms are upgraded with flak and carapice armor. They are extremly good at killing massive armies, because of theirs tactics.
And they are probably only planet what hold chaos invasion without SM or other help. And they did it 2 fucking times.
A ragtag bunch of Space Marines from different chapters have to work together and become true broters to finaly become a Deathwatch squad!
Best movie of 2018!
Sounds like it could actually be at least half-decent if it gets properly funded.
A-Team theme starts playing
Anyone wishing for Jagged Alliance/XCOM-style game with Deathwatch team to level up?
Definitely something that the world could benefit from. It's a near perfect fit to such a game.
Pitch that idea to GW it's fucking perfect.
Theres is one
Deathwatch wh40k
Arch: "I want more Xenos"
*Bolter cleaning sounds stop*
He means more xenos to kill
Que the needle going off the record sound effect.
*Prayers to the Emperor slightly falter*
Deathwatch, for when you like space marines but can't just pick one chapter....
and my first army. I love these guys. Gotta buy some custom shoulder pads to get more representation
true diversity comes at the end of a bolter
Don’t say that word around Arch!
Muh diversity,
Lol
Matthew Chirino Diversity is the deathwatch's strength.
Matthew Chirino Yes... diversity is our strength.
"Suffer not the Alien to Live"
ALEINE BEANZ!!!
*PRETTY SURE THE FLAME FALCONS ARE THE BRIGHTESTS* THEY ARE LITERALLY ON FIRE, ARCH!
Yes, but are they the best ?!
Legion of the damned.
Enough said
one hour lore videos are back! Praise the Emperor!
Hendrik Eickel not praising hard enough
For ever God Emperor be praised!
Ahh, I remember when I joined the Deathwatch...I ended up leading my own squad, and even brought them all back from the Mission.
Shame that they died though, good thing I had enough chains to hook them to my body. It was almost as gruesome as being in a painglove!
Deathwatch battle brothers develop a unique camaraderie. its funny how they jest with each other. In the deathwatch game the banter is hilarious.
Arse smith they are like brothers, on a side note have you noticed that in real life there’s no joint military unit? (There probably is but it’s more than likely highly classified)
@@dionjaywoollaston1349 there is plenty of joint military units, however it's a bit weird of a cluster fuck. If you mean joint unit similar to space marines so same overall faction just different cogs working together then when I was in the military i had a good 3 month time meshed with a marine recon team, a contingent of British infantry, some Japanese SDF, my own unit being US Army Airborne task force, along with some attachments of other army units stationed cross country from us all working together.The biggest issue the grunts had with each other? We ran out of our own tobacco preference and had to cross trade for skinny long english smokes and they had to trade for dip lol.
Me Me something like that but the deathwatch is more like rainbow six because recruitment is extremely specific even more so than joining the Astartes, they typically don’t recruit more than one space marine
@@dionjaywoollaston1349 The Deathwatch is more like Delta Force than Rainbow Six because Delta recruits exclusively from the various US Special Forces that exist, just like how the Deathwatch exclusively recruits from other Space Marine chapters. Rainbow Six is more like the temporary alliances you see in the novels (Eldar mostly) because Rainbow Six hires from multiple countries' Special Forces, not just the one.
@@TripleBarrel06 yes but they recruit marines with an aptitude for xeno killing, same as rainbow six recruits soldiers from counterterrorism units.
And the recruits come from chapters with widely different traditions, doctrines and chapter culture like the space wolves and dark angels.
Rainbow six as you said recruits from different countries that have different cultures.
Delta force recruits from a single nations military
> 1 hour video
Time to get the lube
Hello sir, you look like you enjoy the rectums of other Dark Eldar.
Time to get the flamer again.
yes yes
*Begins summoning Slaanesh*
demon for life for chaos
Ok just a thought
Imagine being a single Spacewolf sent to the Deathwatch, only to find that you're in a full sized kill team with 11 Dark Angels, part of a larger fortress housing only more Dark Angels or their various Successor Chapters
Lol sounds like a bad time for him
But think of the renown if he wins all of those duels....
Sounds like a setup to hunt the Fallen.
Arch, please refrain from uploading stuff when I have important things to do, because they AIN'T getting done in that case
Arch is probably the last youtuber to upload 1h long videos with real content and without any ads for me somehow
Well there is one, with a cynical comment beforehand
Thank you Arch Warhammer today is my birthday and you've made my day a thousand times better cuz so far it's just been a boring summer Friday but this this is awesome thank you.
Michael B.W. Get yourself a nice birthday bath
Soap from the soap throne bubbles for the bubble God.
Michael B.W. Happy Birthday Heretic :)
When I first heard of the Deathwatch, I did not expect them to run an (admittedly hyper aggressive) team building workshop. I'm now imagining space marines sat in circles being forced to make awkward small talk and perform trust falls, followed by the further team building exercise of beating to death anyone who didn't catch their partner.
The Beast Arises series, where Orks make for better diplomats than the freaking Eldar.
an ork that is better than an eldar in anything is pure heresy pls consult your boltpistol
*dark eldar
At least with an ork you know what to expect... sure making a deal with them maybe hard but they will respect there part of the deal... not like the eldar who will backstab you
@@foddorais1422 sure and ten seconds later the next ork rises up and knows nothing of the deal and bashes you over the head+ orks are smelly
@@thanquolrattenherz9665 1. You need to deal with the warboss. 2. It need to be simple. Ex:Go smash those chaos worshippers(say that they said that mork ...
I have only two regrets in life.
1. That arch lore videos and time alive is finite.
2. That Arch is not a editor at black library.
Emperor preserve us in these dark times...
Fatshark's next game should be a deathwatch game. You get different chapters, you get to play as astartes and you could choose your class and you get some cool cosmetics. Oh and before I forget we get to purge some filthy xenos.
Seconded.
ZeroHxC07 that sounds like the game death wing
There's no reason to have White Scar and a Raven Guard: just have a Black Templar Dreadnought and a White Scar Librarian in the same room and see what happens.
my bets on the Templar. even if they die in the process, that liberarian isn't leaving in under 300 separate pieces
Tomoko Tanue Even without guns!
even without limbs. it would find a way xD
Even better - a Black Templar dreadnought and a Salamanders librarian.
Money is on the Black Templar, Grimaldus will just shame him back to life if he falls.
You reminded me of a lieutenant that got deployed to Kosovo. Before entering building in the camp everyone was required to clear their weapon by pointing it into a barrel filled with sand and pull the trigger, after removing the clip. This lieutenant emptied the entire clip into the barrel one round at a time, and then had trouble getting the pistol back into the holster because the slide was locked open by the now empty clip.
I look at 40k, and most things are covered in skulls and tomes, but then I look at the corvus blackstar, then I say "ah finally a sci-fi looking vehicle in 40k"
An excellent video as always :D
The Deathwatch is one of cooler SM sub-factions I've seen :)
I keep wanting to see the skull's eyes flashing as you speak though :D
I said it in your livestream with no response. I hope you see it here :)
MUCH love from Denmark! Keep the videoes comming! The way you talk and describe things is amazing and keeps it very interesting. Keep it up! :)
The Great Wolf does indeed have a special style of humor....
Shall we say you said 'shall we say' 5 times in this video
Dire Only five in an hour long video? That’s not bad.
Dire pretty good for 1 hour
Because reasons ....
And we shall say "because reasons", because reasons that we shall say... but we won't, because reasons!
Dire I'm sure that if we listened to an hour of anyone's speech you'd find a given thing they use as a filler. In Archs case it could be for a quick translation check in his head for example.
And the most points expensive for what you get of the Adeptus Astartes also. Although it's nice having a mixed bag 'bastard squad' of different types of unit, I love that part of the 8th edition rules.
*Thank you Arch, this is such a great video!*
An hour long video! This is surely the making of the Emperor! May his holy name and his primarchs' be blessed!
i love these 40k lores from Arch. just the best way to tell them to COLOUR the universe for us :)
I thought it said death guard and got excited for a moment. Another day Mortarion, Another day.
Felbot grim reaper.
Felbot *Kaldor Draigo smiles maliciously in the corner*
Ian Blasco "I WILL AVENGE YOU JANUS!!"
Blood Raven have you ever eaten....a tangerine?
WoUlDyOuLiKeToTrYoNe!!!!!!!!!
Deathwatch did elite elite elites correctly. Their advantage is a relatively minor initial investment in gear, and just tactical flexibility in being able to bring the right chapter for any task... if provided a bit of time or plot convenience.
...also, it let's them do interactions between chapters so absurdly easy and will any degree of "exception" to the norm they want. Genius idea in many ways.
Welcome to a game called Who's Chapter is it Anyway? where the fluff is slightly irrelevant and the points are too expensive to justify any significant competitive edge. (At least thats what I'm feeling thus far, still fresh to it all)
Speaking of muscle memory. When ever I play a video game with friends and they ask me "what button does this" I can't answer them. I have to hold the controller and remember which one does it. I'm 35 and I STILL remember the button inputs for some of the fatalities from the old Mortal Kombat games.
Speaking of elites what about:
The legion of the damned
The Gray knights
"Death Watch" would be a cool name for a wrist-mounted weapon.
"FILTHY XENOS" is my favourite quote now.
“Death watch assemble”
Heavy bolter with underslung Flamer.
The man-emperor really does answer prayers
We are blessed Papa Arch has given us a 1 hour video
Comment for the algorithm
Fuel for the lore channel
Deathwatch has a muddy history..... just like a certain Legion that I know of
Yes, the Legion of the Damned is indead pretty mysterious.
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44:30 -- *heavy* -- thunderhammer
20:13 - *hate* - each other
Arch: Why?
Games workshop: cause genetically enhanced raisins.
Arch: Ultramarines, inquisition, or Emperors children?
Games workshop: YES!
Hy arch i must say you are one of the best lore channel ever because you put al lot of fun humer in it
>wishing for more xenos
*THIS IS THE DEATHWATCH OPEN UP*
My head cannon for the deathwatch's autonomy is that originally they were subordinate to an individual inquisitor on missions. While their record for completing missions was impeccable, the inquisitor in charge of them always seemed to perish to a 'xenos' bolter round to the back of the head. The inquisition quickly realized that the emperor's avenging angels might not be taking getting ordered around by manlets of varying competence very well, and quickly granted them more autonomy rather than give up such an effective military asset.
On the Raven Guard and White Scar pairing. They would both get along for the most part if both Battle brothers where both from the 3rd company of their respective chapters.
As both companies have worked together before.
Wow arch. Huge mistake here.
The Beast didn't bread a special kind of orks. It just triggered a boost in the orks' evolution process which made them advance far more rapidly. And as of the "Prime Orks", it is just a step in their evolution as well. Remember : the orks have bascally unlimited growth and development potential.
So could Mag Uruk Thraka (which translates to "I am slaughter" in orkish btw) be the new Beast ? ;)
So yes, The Beast Arises is sillly. But I think it is a valuable addition to the lore as well.
That aside, GW really needs to make up their mind ! First the Legion of the Damned, and now this !? xD
agreed. def had some problems... but had some good stuff in the series as well. the last book in particular i thought was quite interesting.
He didn't just trigger a step in ork evolution, he was reverting them to the Krork stage. The stage ment to fight the Necrons during the war in the heavens
*breed. Unless Thraka was making fried ork chips, he didn't 'bread' anything.
TheRoyalBastard really? Was that explicitly stated or hinted?
Heavily implied more than anything. GW (wisely) never explicitly states *anything* if they can avoid it.
One hour video! Emperor be praised!
Your commentary and story telling is brilliant.
Do they separate the alien children from their alien parents?
Cato Sicarius will somebody think of the children?!
Cato Sicarius only for a moment they the are reunited again in a different place though.
If by "separate" you mean Painfully murder, yes.
Yeah with bolter rifle and chain sword
Cato Sicarius They seperate their heads from their wretched bodies.
Pardon me Arch, how does a chapter master factor into the 1000 space marines? Is he part of the 1st company or separate?
Thank you for your time.
Bentnails
great video arch
I now love these guys! Thanks for the education, Arch.
The only good xeno, is a dead xeno
Except the Tau are about the only race that could develop depth-charge bombs tested extensively to target only Tyranid-type matter, being highly destructive to its genetic origins while leaving all other forms of matter untouched; develop this with range to reach past the Milky Way. So, unless the Eldar can develop more Ethereals, the Imperium of Man may well have doomed the Galaxy by killing the Tau Ethereals. failure to discern the danger relative to possible usefulness of Xeno races prevents the truly Sentient races from helping to save all from the Xeno races that can't be reasoned with, namely the overgrown invasive parasite
@@spiral-viper
No, ESPECIALLY the Tau. They get killed first.
Keep the Craftworld Eldar though- apparent the Emperor has plans for their asses. Specifically their asses. As in, literally just the asses, nothing else.
Our liege has strange requests...
I'm a newbie looking to start my 40k collection with the Deathwatch Chapter of the Space Marine. Your video is by far the most indepth in explaining the chapter. Thanks.
Oy, spice mahreens
MikeP5830 “Spice Mahrees”?!?!
Are they the ones who prepare the feasts for the chapters?
Ork filth! Shall be purged !!!
I really have to say I loved how happy the orks seemed to be when you show up in "Space Marine". Like you show up to their front door drenched in the blood and viscera of their friends chainsword in hand spewing smurfy bullshit and the orks are just like "oh fuck yeah now THIS is a good krump"
Just the thought of a classroom like setting, having a Teacher (inquisitor) telling the astartes not to kill one another, only to then simply lock them into thier chairs and mentally torture them until they comply, then smiling all nice, asking. "Any more questions?"
Deathwatch: Multiple origins, multiple commanders, shady stealthy shit... secrecy...
Alfa Legion: Multiple origins, multiple commanders, shady stealthy shit... secrecy...
Guliman: ALPHARIUS!!!
Arch! Thank you for this epic presentation 💪💪💯
I'm guessing the Guardian Spears were a gift from the Blood Ravens.
Mmmmm what a great way to start my summer off, thanks like always Arch!
Praise the emperor arch is back
Yes.
It's 2.00am.
I'm sprawled on my bed, really drunk and just a little, tiny bit, stoned out of f**king mind.
And Arch has posted a lore video for me to listen to as the room spins.
You Arch are an absolute legend mate.
Cheers.
Please do an episode on the black Templars
Heavy Bolters with flamers attached, gargantuan Thunder Hammers, and exceptionally well-crafted everything. Salamanders must _love_ getting seconded to the Deathwatch.
I’m sorry to hear that you don’t plan on finishing the Beast series - I actually enjoyed it. I enjoyed it so much even that I started to buy the audiobooks off Audible so I could listen to them while driving. Still, I assume that since you’ve covered the Deathwatch now, you’re gonna do a video on the other elite Astartes groups, like the Grey Knights... maybe even Primaris Marines 😋
I love that the art around 48:00 depicting a kill team has the White Scar utilizing the one and only bike in the picture.
Because of course he would.
That Moment When You Come Back To 40k After A Break And You Realized. Your Chapter Got Destroyed During Your Break
I love your hour long lore videos. Keep up the good work
Black hole gun! aka Hawkin's blaster!
This video made me pick Deathwatch as my first ever WH40K army. I just got into the hobby! Thanks Arch!
Arch, I do wish you would finish the Beast Arises series. It may get silly, but you do review it rather entertainingly. Plus there are events that happen later on I'd enjoy seeing your reaction to.
Some thoughts on this video, many chapters themselves take into account potential conflicts that can arise. For example the Black Templars have a severe dislike for Psykers, even sanctioned imperial psykers barely get the time of day from them. When deciding on someone to second to the Deathwatch (which they do consider a great honor) they have to take into account on whether whomever they send can set aside those beliefs in order to work with Librarians from other chapters.
When a non marine player shows up at local game store, they draw everyone's attention who then proceed to explain why they should lose the non marine army and get thier preferred elite chapter marines.
2:35 - 3:00 and that is why my headcanon for that series is that the Orks WAAAAAGH! infected the entire galaxy including all life making everyone, for a time, more orky.
45:18 The Custodians gave the spears to the Deathwatch in exchange for some of the more... exotic oils Deathwatch has come across.
My quivering abs needs more xenos oil.
Love your Videos, Love your diction and way of reading, your videos are great for painting, sleeping and everything in between. Thank you.
Now that you have covered 2/3 of the chamber militans of the inquisition (adepta soraritas and deathwatch)...can we get the best out of them all...the Grey Knight, guys so far up the OP scale that one of them destroyed the black blade of angrond!
I was literally just thinking “I want a video about the deathwatch because I don’t know much about them”. Thanks Arch!
You didn't cover Black Shields.
Chosen Rubric old but I believe Black Shields are their own Inquisitorial branch as Black Shield Astartes are often Loyal Space Marines from Traitor/Renegade Chapters that could not stop their former brothers. This is also supported by the fact that the black shield gain almost to legion size because they took in loyal Astartes who believed they failed in some way and if theories are to be believed took in Astartes from Traitor legions looking for redemption.
@@ricosintron2075 The Heresy-era Blackshield tradition got transferred entirely to the Deathwatch. Any Battle Brothers that feel the need to abandon their chapter join the Watch instead of forming their own units. There hadn't been any large-scale formations of Blackshields since the Heresy.
I think he means the marines that refuse to go back to their parent chapter or are in exile. I recall recently listing to a space marine short story where the witty sharp tonged space marine was a black shield of the death watch. The whole story others were attempting to acquire about his chapter (even joking about the rainbow warriors). It wasn't until the end where he sacrificed himself and let the black rage take him that he stated he was a son of Sanguinis - a Blood Angel.
@@TKUltra971 Yes, the story is "Mission: Purge", and it was about the Deathwatch Captain Artemis (who in fact has a tabletop model) and his kill-team.
@@p_serdiuk Ooh neat.
That ad break made me chuckle! Well played sir!
Ahh i remember my days with the Ordos, can't speak about it of course, but... good times
Iam Bob Someone avoided the mind scrubbing after being released from the Death Watch
reminds me of the Deathwatch Tabletop session... 2 Dark Angels, one of them Squad leader (and Inducted), A Black Templar and a Space Wolf. that were almost fun times for my Squad leader...
Hey Arch I saw no add...idk if it’s just an American thing or if there was a hiccup with the upload. Best wishes
You got me hooked from Orc primarchs :)
Also heavy thunder hammers.
I always assumed the Deathwatch would at least number 20,000+ space marines, at least if they were to ever have the slightest hope of making the smallest difference on a galactic scale xD
The Imperium consists of millions of worlds with countless alien threats that can strike at any moment across wildly different sectors.
Properly distributing those few thousand battle brothers to deal with alien threats of inquisitorial interest would be a nigh impossible on a galactic scale, and let's not mention the logistical nightmare it'd be to make send the few Deathwatch there were to any theater of war before the show was already over! xD
SinerAthin in defense of it, understand that the Ordo Xenos is primarily self sufficient in its acts, and rarely require marines for anything but extreme specialist maneuvers, say the capture and escort of a Zoanthrope to a magos biologis genetor. Otherwise they use stormtroopers of the ordos tempestus.
Granted, I think they probably number something like 3k or so, because they still need numbers for various reason.
These fellas is what finally caught my eye enough to get into WH and I haven’t looked back. Deathwatch is the coolest faction by far.