Bad News Brown - Why I Pitched Chris Benoit to WWF in 1989
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- Bad News Brown knew Chris Benoit from his Stampede Wrestling days and even pitched him to Vince McMahon & WWF in 1989. Full Shoot ➤ TitleMatchNetwork.com
This was recorded 2 years before the Chris Benoit murders.
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Bad News Brown is pound for pound one of the toughest pro wrestlers of all time. Bad News won a bronze medal for Judo in the 1976 Olympics before later emerging as a professional wrestler. Before competing for Vince McMahon in WWF, Bad News Brown (aka Bad News Allen, Allen Coage) was working for New Japan Pro Wrestling & Stampede Wrestling.
While working for the Harts in Stampede Wrestling, Bad News helped out a young up and comer named Chris Benoit. It was Bad News Brown who actually got Benoit into NJPW in 1990. Before that happened, Bad News was pitching the same idea to Vince McMahon & the WWF. Hypothetically we could have seen Benoit debut in WWF well before he finally did in 2000.
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Respect to BadNews Brown and his family
this is genuine love man. looked out for the kid like a lil bro.
Bad news brown,a good friend mine,he wrestled in México,we Tagged a few tours.he taught me a lot of judo moves,i didnt know he was bronce medalist,great person we miss you,r.i.p.
I had no inkling he'd passed on until about 4 or 5 years ago from complications of a coronary, Mr. Guzman😒 R.I.P. Allen Coage😇
How could u not know he was a bronze medalist if he taught u some judo moves?
@@bravojohnson5050 I know some judo throws, does that mean I'm also an Olympic medalist too?
Next time actually think before you post.
Bad News would of been heart broken if he was alive when The Benoit tragedy happened
It's so good to listen to somebody talking about Chris Benoit's wrestling career as the wrestler.
Bad News Brown was a stand up guy. Always enjoyed his inring storytelling.
Good interview
This was before he did what he did...
@@darylchase7595 Yup, because Bad News passed about three months before the Benoit tragedy
@@romans52345-cy3tq Bad News Brown died in March of 2007, when he was 63 years old. Just 3 months after, Chris Benoit died June 24, 2007 (aged 40)
@@darylchase7595
And it was so nice to watch a video about his wrestling career.
I know when Bad News Brown died but the date of the interview is unfortunately relevant.
But it was nice to watch it for a change.
@@darylchase7595 yeah but you can clearly see that this was filmed in 2005
I remember seeing him at the grocery store when I was a kid in Calgary. I was petrified as he was a scary looking guy, and a monster heal in Stampede Wrestling. Was always so proud to see him get the recognition in the WWF. Loved his finishing move, the Ghetto Blaster. Rest easy Bad News Allen.
Did he see you or did you get to speak to him at the grocery store?
I heard he was a mall security officer at a store there.
Keep in mind, guys, this interview was years before the "incident". I am sure if Bad News , who was a family man, heard about the Benoit tragedy today, he would be devastated and shocked like the rest of us.
RIP Bad News. RIP to Nancy and Daniel Benoit.
@DJ BLACKWHOLE a lot of people do. Especially on TH-cam.
Or say if is reinforcing him saying Benoit is the closest thing to dynamite cuz its something he would have done too
@DJ BLACKWHOLE I don't know anyone, who had brain mass turn into pudding, murder their own family.
It's still a wrong thing that anyone did.
@ShadowAngel - When Benoit was in WCW in the 1990's he and several WCW wrestlers worked out in the same gym that I did. He was certainly the most quiet of the bunch. Whereas Iron Shiek , JYD, and Booker T were friendly Benoit was very quiet and seemed almost introverted. Sargent Dwayne Bruce was a very good guy outside of character. I would not have wanted to be somebody they did not training under him at the PowerPlant though.
@ShadowAngel The Miz was a rookie at the time and Benoit was a wrestler about respect and discipline. Plus, many relationships have rocky moments in them and saying that he was always an asshole when you are a person who never actually knew the man himself is just wrong. It's like saying a person who accidently killed someone by hitting them with their car was always a killer if they ended up commiting actual murder 5 years after that car accident. Don't be so goddamn neglegent and consider brain damage to be a factor. Also, Eddie Guerrero and Johny Grunge died without warning, which they both were close friends to Benoit so for that to happen to the guy is already a tragedy in of itself. Also, if Benoit killed his Wife and Son in cold blood, why do they call it a tragedy instead of a massacre? Because the guy was depressed and had a brain full of fucking holes in it.
Can't believe when I was a kid I rooted against this guy. Nicest heel ever, lol.
Bad News Brown was my favorite wrestler the moment he won the Royal Rumble and beat Bret Hart.
Allen was so nice to Benoit.
I hated Benoit though on the murder suicide (2007)
So fortunately Allen did not know about it; he passed away in 2005.
He passed away in March of 07'
Your favorite wrestler's wrestler Bad News Brown!!!
This Man really scared me when I was a little kid. Listening to this interview he sounds very articulate, well-educated and well-mannered.
He went to a college . So yes he is educated.
Why would you not expect him to be any of those things? Even as a wrestler he was very articulate.
@@gst013 It's the usual reaction to a well spoken minority
And Bad News was 18 in 1961, so his options were limited as far as higher education was concerned
@@IAMASAVAGECREATOR- lol college doesn't educate people. I know I was planning to be a history professor but they teach lies.
He died not too long before Benoit.
Alberto Henley they both died the same year 2007
Bad News died March 6th while it was announced Chris Benoit was dead on RAW on my birthday June 25th. Not the happiest of birthdays for me in 2007.
Gregory Tipton+ a couple of days after my birthday
@@gregorytipton6352 same day as one of my favorite cousins yell
@Brandy Baker+ what made you stop that was a good year in wrestling but to each their own
Mad props to Brown. Looking out for the small guys. Respect. Miss him.
Man, so many wrestlers look so haggard and mumbling when they are older. Bad News Brown was the opposite.
Bad News comes across really well,no BS,a straight shooter,and loyal,RIP Bad News.
Bad news is a dam good person, and a hell of an in ring worker.
He seems like the nicest guy
He deserve this late attention so much. A bad ass with the heart on the right place. He belongs in the Hall of fame, no doubt.
This guy is a class act.
Man it’s so sad that he’s gone. He didn’t even get to see what happened with Benoit. Heck maybe Bad News passing away was a contributing factor for Chris snapping since all his friends were dying. RIP to both.
I'm going to say one thing, bad news brown is a great man. Love this guy
Bad News is one of my all time greats because as a kid I hated him he was that good in the ring I was a total mark despised him but that's a testament to how convincing he was as a heel! To both him and Chris RIPower! We may not all make the best decisions in life that everyone can understand but its not for us to understand its not our journey So I say peace to their energy!
Well said. I didn't like Bad News back in the day. However, his interviews have totally changed my mind. Seems like he was a solid dude.
guess he was doing his job Cause I never liked them I thought he was an asshole now watching this shit I feel I was wrong
Wow... Benoit lost so many people close to him in a short period of time towards the end of his life. Eddie, Bad News Allen, Biff Wellington, Johnny Grunge.
Owen Hart and Big Boss Man too.
@@atifqavi2054 And Pillman
These comments are so awesome. So many people terrified of this guy. Great heel!
Bad News was a very tough guy. Very intelligent. Would tell anyone to their face if he had a problem with them and would not go behind people's backs while being nice to them in person. Obviously he looked out for a young Benoit when he didn't have to. He could have just kept out of it and focused on himself like most people in life do.
I give him his props for doing so, Mr. Luca. R.I.P. Chris Benoit & Allen Coage😇
Smart, eloquent speaker.
Chris Benoit best technical wrestler ever
Add that to him being the worst husband and father ever.....
@@bigglilwayne7050 O.J. is a close 2nd.
Kurt Angle says hello
@@stedarkside1529 Kurt Angle couldn't lace Benoit's boots...
@@wolf7el356 Kurt Angle was better...and he didn't murder his wife and son either. Angle wins 🤡
Bad News seems like he was a cool intelligent man. It's no wonder he was smart enough to create such a strong heel character in the ring. This guy knew what he was doing.
He was definitely a straight shooter. I didn't like his mean attitude back in the late 1980s, but now I watch his old promos and his appearance on Arsenio Hall and I can't get enough of him! He was a riot! 😆
Gotta love Bad News Brown and all his beer-bellied sharecroppers and spineless cockroaches!
@@FischerFan oh when I was younger he got me as a heel. I thought he was one of the meanest people on the planet.
Imagine Chris Benoit busting into WWF in 1989 and him having the spot they gave to Owen Hart. We would’ve saw some legendary matches with Benoit in the Golden Era. Would’ve been amazing.
Benoit won a WWF junior heavy weight championship I think in Mexico or in Japan and that title is long lost belt WWE must of forgot about.
@@Primeghost_2 Benoit won the WWF Light Heavyweight Championship in Mexico's UWA promotion. He also got the old WWWF Junior Heavyweight Championship belt as a trophy for winning the Super J Cup in 1994.
@@DefLeppardVanHalen yes that must be it because I got the info from Prowrestling Illustrated when he was the centerfold poster👍
It's great to hear Him talk about Chris when everyone else is afraid to mention or talk about Him.
Steve Vestel this is a 2005 interview
He died about 3 months before Benoit did what he did. I would imagine he wouldn't speak too fondly of Chris now.
@@Lord_Bibulous Ahhhhh I see.
Bad News trained Jinder Mahal, and they've pushed him to the moon.
Well he's been dead since 2007. Would be pointless to try to get back at him at this point.
Man, much love for Bad News Brown. True legend and philanthropist. What a great guy. So sad to hear Dusty treat him that way. Shame on Dusty Rhodes
Dream had a bad rep as a booker.
I never knew they were close...
It's quite clear that this gentleman had a lot to give and a lot to offer because he wanted to. He knew what was right and he didn't have time for BS.
It''s a great tragedy that he left us so long ago.
RIP
I live in bc but calgary stampede was the go to wrestling in Canada. They were loaded with talent! 🍻🇨🇦
Despite the fact that *_"Bad News Brown"_* had a black belt in Judo and won Gold Medals in 2 Olympic games in Judo and despite the fact that he was a skilled Professional Wrestler since 1977 and had good mic skills and did a great job of "selling" the act, somehow Vince McMahon just "couldn't" give him a main event push. He will always be known as one of the great underrated wrestlers. Also. Very eerie that since he keeps talking about *Chris Benoit* , Bad News Brown died in March of 2007, when he was 63 years old. Just 3 short months after, Chris Benoit died. If Brown were alive today in 2020, he would have been 76 years old, making him 2 years older than Vince McMahon.
Slight correction: He won Bronze at the Olympics. He won two golds at the Pan American Games
I'm not sure what you're insinuating but yeah, there's a limited number of champion spots. If everyone is a champion, nobody is a champion. There are no memorable BNB promos out there I'm afraid and according to Jake Roberts BNB's body was so spent that he could not take a fall in a match because his knees were too broken for him to stand up without extreme pain. He was a great athlete at one time though and nobody can take that away from him.
Think about it too bro, Bad News was a mean bald headed, shit talking loner, who always wore black, who does that remind you of!?
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 You know exactly what he's insinuating, and i agree. WWF/WWE was, is and will always be a racist organization, that holds black, latino and native wrestlers back, for less talented whites
He was an African-American. Vince didn't have a habit of pushing African-American wrestlers back then.
Benoit, Daniel Bryan and Davey Richards all have shades of Dynamite kid in them
I miss him. As always a class act and stand up guy
What solid guy. R.I.P.
Bad News was Good News for Chris Benoit!! Love the fact that he was such a good friend and mentor to the Crippler.
I’m surprised Bad News didn’t say something like “My family made that cake. You or anyone else touches it I’m kicking your ass.” His sister in law went through the trouble to make it just to have an asshole like Bruce Hart (who NO one in the business, not even Bret, has ANYTHING nice to say about) do something like that just to be petty.
This man was my favorite heel. I could listen to these all day.
Ironically, Both BNB and Benoit died in 2007. Two absolute legends!
I don't think many people knew this side of him.great hardcore veteran😭😭😭🗽🗽🗽🎥🎥🎥
Bad news and Benoit died one month apart from each other.
Interesting, Sherri Martel died the same year AND she knew Chris & Nancy
@@louie8425 same with biff Wellington Chris's former tag team partner who died the exact same day Chris died
Its starting to sound like jealousy may have been the reason for the Benoit tragedy. Too many coincidences...
Such a well spoken intelligent guy. Great stories.
I know Bad News Brown would’ve been so disappointed if he was alive when Chris did the unthinkable
Allen was a stand up guy, no doubt about it
glad to see bad news
Bad News Brown does a great interview.
Bad News Always seemed like a cool guy........ This just makes the case alot stronger
I sometimes wonder what would have been his thoughts on the Benoit tragedy if he had not died early that year?
So sad because his last job was working mall security . Bret Hart was right about Vince McMahon.
@ShadowAngel Hey wasn't it into drugs. He was blackballed by Vince and Vince could have him a job behind the scenes or a manager role. 🤔
AD Block they would have unionized but a certain yellow and red wearing man at the top of the card ratted out Jessie for the meeting he had talking to the boys about doing it. They absolutely would have done it. And ever since then Vince has been very careful about his contracts and such. No union will ever exist in the wwe. They classify their employees as fucking independent contractors. Vince is definitely a scum bag. Not all wrestlers are dumb men. Some are. Some are very intelligent. Just like most athletic fields.
Prick Storm Because Hogan didn’t want to share his top of the card money (which was known to occasionally be more than the rest of the card combined) and Vince viewed everyone else as replaceable because Hogan was “the draw.” Jesse had bad timing. If he had just waited a little longer they could have succeeded.
Stampede came thru Regina once a week and I was always there as a kid, lived 10 minutes from the Auditorium. Bad News was very approachable and kind to a 12 year old native kid, always called me Little Chief. Can't say a bad word about the man, Bruce Hart was a serious dick though, to everyone.
Yep. Think it was every Tuesday in Regina. I lived in Moose Jaw. Went often as a young boy with my dad.
@@willkline7062 Your right, they later changed it to Thursdays
@@samiron9446 Good memories. I was about 10 or 11 years old. JR Foley the manager walked around asking people for money while jingling change in his pockets. Wayne Hart was often reffering. Hercules Ayala scared the hell out of me. Dynamite Kid was the fastest guy in the ring. And yes Bruce Hart was an ass.
@@willkline7062 Dr. D David Schultz, Nick Bockwinkle, Andre the Giant, Abdullah the Butcher, Adrien Street, Archie Goldie, Chris Benoit, Jushin Liger. All the greats came through, and during our childhood, Stampede was the best in the world. It was funny that it was based in Calgary but the wrestlers always say Regina was the best show and nearly always full. Fond memories and I still have a lot of the programs.
sam iron, aside from Bret (and to a lesser degree Owen), none of the family had any real talent. They rode Stu’s coattails because he was Stampede Wrestling. I can see them all being jealous of an real talent because they had none and we’re never going to be anything even at home because they just didn’t have IT.
Benoit and others did, that’s why they made it in the big time and the brothers all had to rely on booking themselves as something they couldn’t earn on their own merits.
I’ve never heard ANYONE including Bret himself say ONE positive thing about Bruce Hart. I’m really surprised that Bad News didn’t say something like “My family made that cake. Anybody touches it I’m kicking their ass.”
1k a week back then on a whim basically? damn
I just hate that the timing system here sucks seems like it gettin faster and faster.any way RIP to both men peeeice
This guy is awesome you can tell by how he talks hes no bs
Thanks for the video, TITLE MATCH WRESTLING
The story of my life. When ppl see your potential. . They hate
R.I.P Brown R.I.P Chris
Damn they both died the same year didn't they?
Bad news brown died?
@@henryperez5404 yea heart attack
@@slicetee3985 dammm
@@slicetee3985 Yeah they died months apart I think?
Bad News was such a wicked heel. So believable and it worked well when he was in the WWF and it would’ve worked in the Attitude Era as well. When you watch these later interviews he seems like a really decent guy and it goes to show you just how good he was with his character
Always loved Bad News.
This very interesting to learn because Benoit always revered the Harts, especially Stu, so this was legit news to me. Not really surprising, especially considering Bruce was named as one of the major dicks to Benoit, but wow.
I know right. Because I'm like, I never heard of him before, and now I know why bc of what could happen with his career then. So sad 😞 May they two rest in peace. Love to meet them in paradise.
This is first interview were Bad News wasn't talking about how much he hated someone lol. Rest In Peace Bad News and Chris Benoit
fuck Beniot the child killing piece of shit
This guy must be Canadian he’s too nice 🤔
Canada's his second home.
Is Elizabeth doing favors for you?😂😂
Should've been world champion.
It’s too bad Bad News never became WWF champion.
Wow that last line was sad
Rip chris and rip brown
It was nice of him to recommend Benoit but he would been buried in the wwf at that time.
I didn't know the harts were jealous of Benoit that hasn't been told before.
this was in 2005. 2 years before the chris incident
If the Harts "abused" Chris, that would explains a lot things. But anyway nice story by Bad News. I remember him being a bad guy and feuding with Hogan and Bret, I thought he was cool as Hell. Nice finisher.
Yes the Harts were assholes, but this was before Benoit had Brain Damage
Good man too.
You know Benoit the wrestler was an amazing talent the Harts hated anyone who could out perform them in the ring period.
Man , Vince really sh*t the bed with this guy. Him beating Hogan would have been like Rocky III with Mr. T. Hogan getting too full of himself and a guy from the streets taking it away.. they could have milked that angle for a year.
I swear Bad News Brown looks like a black version of Captain Spaulding 🤣🤣🤣
I never understood why they never mentioned bad news brown in beniot's dark side of the ring documentary at all he was another person that knew chirs he might not been close to him but he knew him.
4:00
LOL~
Bad news deserved a better run.
He hates Bret so much that you can tell in every interview if they ask him about the Hitman,I think Benoit was talented but to the point of Bret been jealous of Chris,come on this is just crazy talk!
I remember a old lady slapping him at a wwe (wwf) event in nashville tennessee in the late 80s. He sold it well. But he must remember that. He was working keel for hulk hogan during that match. It was a big snow storm that moved in during the show so it had to be jan 1988 or 1987. I thought it was funny his immediate reaction the look on his face toward her. She had to be in her 70s. He was outside the ring working hogan during the middle of the match ruffhouse hogan into the barricade at the first row i was in the 4th row and that lady was very defensive of the babyfaces. That is missing in the modern era of wrestling. I dont ever see the sweet little grandma's that normally are quiet and kind but take them to wrestling and they want to whip the keels and protect the faces. Alot of it was the attitude era i think it blurred the lines between face and keel cause everyone was bad guy it appealed to a younger male audience.
Man I hated bad news brown . But seems like a cool dude.
I think it's kinda weird watching some of Benoit's wcw matches when Nancy was outside the ring screaming CHRIS!! and NO!!
Check out Chicky Starr promos , he had Metallica and Slayer in his Eighties promos. This was back before hipsters started buying 5 dollar Motorhead and Ramones T-shirts at Target and Walmart.
his name is bad news allen
Anybody remember Salvatore Bellomo
He died not long ago
He Was In ECW Before It Became Extreme
LOL the guy who hates the Hart family says that the Hart family treated Benoit poorly. In bad news Browns mind it was Stu Hart behind that grassy knoll
Had he known what Chris did he would have went on a New Jack rant
What did chris do ? Iono I wouldn't believe anything on Tell Lies To Your Vision . He got a knock on the door while on the phone , with another wrestler then he supposedly did all that after being on the phone think it was with X-pac maybe I could be wrong. Knock on the door then he dont here from Benoit til the news reporting, right someone else did it , imo KS had something to do with it or knowledge of .. but I might just be way out left field 🤷🏽♂️
Entertainment Purposes 😉👍🏽
Chris Jericho is that you?
Bad news died on my birthday
I wonder if the death of bad news as well as Eddie...led benoit to lose it.
Bad news was a BMF. RESPECT.
This is the side of Bret Hart and the Hart family I wish would get out more when hes going off on his bitter tangents about Shawn, Goldberg, Montreal. What goes around comes around Bret.
You're blaming Bret for something he may have had no part of. When Benoit first arrived at Stampede, Bret had been in WWE for a year at that point.
@@Lord_Bibulous Maybe you missed the part where it said "Hart Family", pro tip, try reading a statement all the way through before commenting.
To humor you I'll bite, if things like this dont show the mentality that family operates under you're choosing to be willing ignorant. Bret's bitter act on Goldberg is old and frankly founded on lies he tells himself and his fan boys slop up, and when someone who understands science, medicine, and reality when he tells his Goldberg story it makes me cringe because of how much bullshit hes spilling. As The Rock said "Wanna know why men hate you? It's because men can smell bullshit a mile away."
Stories like this only go to show what jealous, bitter, petty people that family is and Bret is the epitome of that so yeah he's a pretty interical part of this conversation. Try again.
@@TheElmatador32 Did you read your comment all way through? Or do you just ramble off with a big sermon of BS just because you like to type?
You specifically said "What goes around comes around Bret." Implying he had something to do with this when he might've not even been there.
@@Lord_Bibulous I know right. Bret Hart and his WWE endeavors is another story altogether. But, it wouldn't surprise me if stampede wrestling cards were never in favour of Benoit, I met a couple Hart brothers, and the only one that didn't seem to care for the fans was the one who gave the most boring promos ever, Bruce.
@@TheElmatador32 Holy shit you are jumping to crazy conclusions. I agree that Bret took himself way too seriously at points of his career, but you sound like a complete DOUCHE, saying that entire families behave the same way. On my my dad's side, he spent 20 years in prison for all sorts of scumbag crimes, but I had a 130 I.Q. as a CAD tech, while my sister was a war hero, doing 2 tours in Afghanistan, but I suppose we are all the same? My mom's side has 3 different cousins that interned for NASA, but one of my aunts was addicted to Cocaine, and still drinks before noon. Are you really the dude that says entire families are all the same people? Bret having a big ego has nothing to do with other family members controlling a territory.
I don’t agree with everything but most of bad news’s opinion and totally agree with his views on this. Bruce Hart was probably thee downfall of Calgary due to the ego and love affair for HImSelf! Rip To Bad News!
It's too bad what the guys at Stampede did to Chris regarding the cake; but in the wrestling biz, it's what they call "Paying Your Dues"
No it’s not that’s just spiteful bullying.
@@talb4601 I agree. Punk shit
Steve Smith Exactly. Paying dues is travelling on the road, making towns, turning up to shows, sacrificing, going to the gym everyday, doing jobs for the others. That’s paying dues