Do I REGRET Buying My CFMoto 700CL-X 2 Months Later??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- The CFMoto 700CL-X has proven to be a VERY polarizing bike. Some of you have absolutely loved it, and some you have been pretty vocal about your hatred towards the brand and how I'll end up regretting my purchase sooner rather than later.
So...2 months and ~600 miles later...do I actually REGRET buying the 700CL-X, or has it turned out to be as awesome as I'd hoped?? And more importantly, should YOU buy one? Ya gotta watch to find out!
0:00 Intro To 700CLX 2 Month Review
700CLX Likes-
1:55 Biggest Pro
3:44 Second Pro
5:21 Third Pro
700CLX Dislikes-
7:58 Biggest Con
15:58 Second Con
19:29 Third Con
Wrap Up-
21:30 Do I REGRET Buying My CFMoto 700CLX?
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In the old days, here in the UK, we always pulled in the clutch lever when starting a bike with the old Brit bikes. And 40 yrs later, it's still my habit no matter what bike I ride. :)
I've always done that with all my bikes and cars.
I'm about to buy one ❤ ty for reviewing it
There is a fix for the gear indicator problem , take off the front sprocket cover you will see the gear sensor , undo the black electrical tape to expose the connectors unplug them undo the sensor (14mm) remove the washer and screw it back in reconnect wires new electrical tape and bolt sprocket cover back on , and enjoy
So just taking the washer out fixes it? I’ll have to give that a try! Good looks dude 🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch Yes it does in most cases.
Perfect review!! I have an absolute 50/50 love/hate relationship with this thing. I’ll try and get my video on it finished this week!
The relationship went: love ➡️ drop ➡️ confusion ➡️ hate 😂
@@LifeOfBurchliterally 😂
this is wild CFMOTO in the Isle of Mann TT 4th place! th-cam.com/video/g109qX7mjZc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pWfcO2XapN5mRTrD
Oh no, it was dropped? Actually the bike looks unscathed so all is well 👌
Chase said it well about CFMOTO... they're about 85-90% the quality of the proven Japanese brands. And you get a discount to offset that difference. 2nd year with my CFMOTO Ibex 800T and I love it.
I could definitely agree with that sentiment…but I’d probably mark it around 75-80% realistically. I’d love to get my hands on an ibex though! They look super rad 🙌🏻
I can approve this message. Going from a used Kawasaki 650R to my 700 CLX Sport, I love almost every aspect of this new bike. He might just have bad luck getting a cheap used one. But hey, you cannot beat 2500 price. I'd get it in a blink as well. I paid 8000 for my Sport brand new on a big sale (taxes everything included).
Japanese brands yet built in China
CFMOTO is Chinese brand@@steve00alt70
That would be a fair statement. I got a nk 300 and I have to basically baby the thing and make sure the oil is changed on time or even more often than what the manual says to change the oil. Clean the chain just to make sure no funny business happens.
Hmmm Burch mentioned the FTR again. Is anyone else suspecting one in the near future? ;)
Sheeeit I need to be suspecting a lottery win if you’re suspecting an FTR on the channel anytime soon!! 😂😂😂
@@LifeOfBurch ftr was great, but I prefered the rogue much more usuable power :3
Can’t wait for some FTR content
Get a used SV 650. About 1 million people know how to work on them and their great for track days.
If Burch quit buying fringe stuff he could buy that FTR… or as someone else said … the standard… SV650
I request a 6 Month Review in the future, primarily focused on anything you had to do with basic maintenance or if any repairs needed to be done and the costs and ease or difficulties. I am curious about the actual Nearly Daily Driven long term dependability.
Dude, you're singin' The Early Adopter Blues. It's the price of being first.
Great video Burch !! 🤙🏽
Versatile. That's the word you are looking for ;) love your stuff. be safe out there
I used the word “versatile” a few times, so not the word I was looking for. It’s some common phrase that was on the tip of my tongue…that I still haven’t figured out 😂 Thanks for watching dude! Glad you dig it!! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
Dude you brought so many memories..
I trained on one of them for my A license category, exactly the same colour.
Oh no way! That’s rad! 🙌🏻
@LifeOfBurch Yeah, I live in Austria and here we have a lot of curves and not many long stretches of highways because we are a predominantly mountainous country and this bike drives excellent in our conditions. Honestly, I have not many bad things to say about this small bike, it drove nice and performed excellent on our roads.
I have the CF Moto 800NK, I love it, it rips. I wanted a KTM Duke but better looking so I got the best of both worlds.
That was a great twisty road!
Compared to other bikes with electronic throttle, the 700CL-X isn't too bad.
Also, the 450 CFMoto bikes are a huge step up in build quality and that little engine is super smooth.
So far I haven't waited any longer for CFMoto parts than Honda or Yamaha parts from my dealership.
I have owned about 20 motorcycles and there are 2 that I would buy again. Yamaha FJR1300 and CFMoto 700 CL-X.
Thanks for the honest review.
Too many faults with this bike, none of which I’ve ever had with any Honda I’ve owned.
You get what you pay for !
I will say that the throttle mapping for the throttle by wire is kinda weird but it seems to be a lot better when you turn the traction control off. I have been looking into the Team MSC and Throttle Punks ecm tunes as they are supposed cure the weird throttle mapping issues as well as 7+hp gains. Throttle Punks also makes a custom high flow intake to go along with their tune. T-Rex Racing makes a crash cage, skid plate and sliders for this bike. Also there are some U.S. mfgs working on exhausts for these.
You should get the sport model in new, and you'll be as happy as I am. It did have an ABS issue, and CFmoto recalled it, and it's been fine ever since.
I've never had the gearing issue you have, which could be the reason yours is only 2500. Neutral sometimes might have issue especially when it runs hot. But It's still way better than the Harley or Yamaha cruisers we've had.
Talking about support, CFMOTO is the only Chinese motorcycle manufacturer entering the US as a company itself. It'd be great if you can find an authorized CFmoto dealer in your area. Mine did my recall and it's been pleasure experience.
CFmoto had been making BIG name in the ATV and UTV world for years. Their motorcycle is fairly new, and I had to say they are not the no.1 quality even in China, but given their reputation in the ATV world, they would catch up soon especially when they got more KTM stuff in. QJ made better motor and they collaborate with Harley, but we do not have them in the US yet.
I picked up a 2023 for $6k otd with 1mile back in March. I have around 4500 miles on it now. The 2023 and up has three rider modes. They added off-road mode in which you can turn off rear ABS as well as adding a button to turn off traction control in any rider mode. I haven't had the gear indicator/cruise issue yet. Seems to be a bigger problem with the first gen models. I really really have enjoyed the bike so far through daily commuting and lots of hard twisties riding out here on the California coast. I had my bikes suspension setup by a professional suspension tuner for my weight and riding style and it has made the bike feel even better.
I wanted this bike a lot. It is beautiful. But after reading an endless list of problems many people were having a ditched those plans and got an MT07. I'm interested in an easy going, cruise local touring kind of ride and thought the 700CLX would be better and I think the bike even looks better. I love the seat and it looks more comfy for 2up riding. But the reliability just killed it for me. Went with the MT07 as my first bike (wanted an MT09 and low power mode but could only convince my wife with used MT07 prices). I hope to have a Ducadi Diavel 1260S one day! Anyone with the 700CLX, I hope it is awesome for you!
I think the clx 700 is a great looking bike. And it has cruise control and its competitors dont. Its a cheap sporty bike and fun. Ypu can get these dirt cheap like under $4k new the carry over models right now. That is a steal. CFMOTO is a legit contender in the bike world now imo. They are really making strives. Are they perfect no, but they are good and especially foe the price.
I have the same exact bike. I contacted the seller for my levers and paid a bit extra for the adapter. I am at 7k miles and my nine just now started getting the Reverse Gear Sensor issue, but it is still under warranty. Other than that, I love my little machine.
Cheap and inexpensive are two different things...
15-18 years ago I wouldn't have bought a Chinese bike.
But they have been seriously hitting hard in the market, quality and price point, simply incredible...
I have had three of them so far!! And have not regretted these purchases at all!
If you have a ton of money, sure you can buy any bike.
But still, some Chinese bikes are really good looking...😊
Good video Mr Birch!
Thanks dude!! 😎🤘🏻
Man I loved that bike. It was such a fun ride during the meet. I would totally own one as a secondary bike. I couldn't make it a main, but it is SO fun despite it's quirks/cons.
Right?! Such a fun bike! I forget how much it rips sometimes 😂🤘🏻
Always well said!!
If your issues are mostly based around the transmission and its gear indicator, do you think it might be some damage from the previous owner dropping or abusing it? Or are there other riders having the exact same issue with theirs?
Anyway, great review, keep it up!
I’m old. I like a rear fender instead of the license plate hanging on a weird arm. 100 years ago Harley developed the Jiffy Stand™️. When there’s weight on the stand it cannot be retracted. N00bs to H-D are freaked out about it until they get used to it. I’m guessing that like many bikes, including my Moto Guzzi, the gear position is calculated by speed and rpm. It doesn’t know what gear it is in until it can compare the speed to the rpm. As someone who follows racing I’m a fan of CFMoto in Moto3 and Moto2. Finally I don’t care what anyone thinks of my bikes.
the honda trail 125 has a similar issue with the sidestand. my trail dropped ITSELF when i had parked it in my garage. it was sitting there for 5 minutes and decided its time had come and smashed itself into the wall. a kickstand shoe might help.
Hey there Burch! I've been riding the 700cl-x for almost a year now and you addressed all the issues that i have faced. The bike has been running smoothly without any problems. I am just really considering to trade it with a Rebel 1100, just for a change of style. Do you think it will more worth it in the long run?
Can you change the spring on the kickstand to a stronger one?
my cfmoto 300ss and 450ss was flawless except for the super agressive riding position but that is a personal preference. I traded it in for a rebel 1100t and im happy with that. I still keep the 300 for when im want a sportier ride and the rebel just cruises.
@Lifeofbirch ive purchased the 700clx about a year ago now. The gear Shifter messing with the indicator is a faulty Gear shift sensor. I almost sold mine back to the dealer cause it almost threw me off on the freeway cause the cruise control got confused. i had to record a video to show the dealer cause they didn't believe me. it will get worse if you leave it be. please replace it before yours decides to try and buck you off.
The first con about the 6th and 1st gear is a dirty gear sensor, you can disassemble it and clean it and no more issues (it might happen again if it gets dirty)
The “bike thinking its neutral but it’s in 1st” does happen to me with my Svartpilen. I always start the bike using the clutch, so no problem there, but that has happened to me at stoplights making the bike stall and making me looking like a noob lol. Also it’s a pain with the Svart to find neutral. In the end I think that CF Moto sources several parts from KTM, so it could be a general KTM issue.
2 weeks for replacements really doesn't sound that bad. Consider the East overseas suppliers like Triumph, BMW, Ducati. Yep, they wait even longer. My Tiger sat for a month waiting for parts 2 years ago. Was it the ole 'p' causing the issues? Probably some. Historically, there's always been a 'lengthy' wait. (we live in a give it to me now culture)
I'm not super surprised to hear about weird neutral issues, because I've heard a lot of bikes have had problems with false neutrals in the past.
That's odd because my 2 Cfmotos on this platform have never done that
@@chrispekel5709 I don't mean specifically cfmoto, I mean like every brand, like hondas even.
Especially Harleys
Hmmmm. My Harley has a pin that engages when the bikes weight is on the side stand that lets go when you stand it up.
We got Saturday Morning cartoons as kids,
As adults we get Sunday Morning Moto,
Chaos at 10am (using EST/-5UTC)
Burch at 12pm
Now we just need someone in the afternoon on Sundays? Anyone know of one?
(And yes, I see Moto Mornings as a win to the comparison of Sat Morning Cartoons, recently saw SpongeBob, and maaaan does he look different)
🙌🏻 Sunday Morning Moto 🙌🏻
For the afternoon video…just watch mine a second time 😂😂😂
Well done.
You can find lightly used Moto Guzzi V7 under 6k ton of character and style with legendary brand.People always quote MSRP knowing once out of the dealer you just lost 2k on dealers fees.I suggest buy lightly used bikes and avoid the fees.Recently I was looking to buy RE classic 350 in MA but after freight documentation etc 4500 bike became 6k and I walked out....Not paying 600 dollars for "documentation" serious robbery.
The start in neutral is a weird place in the transmission, it clicks in5i 2nd gear causing that jerk, have to ensure neutral, i start the bikr with clutch pulled in just incase of this gear positioning jump
The Chinese do one of the most luxurious and comfortable bike seats ever. Better quality than crappy Yamaha and Honda seat material.
I have a CFMOTO 650MT it’s not perfect but in the UK it has twice the warranty to the Japanese/european bikes. It’s a lot of fun for the money but watch out for massive price drops/ offers if thinking about buying brand new.
i definently think that the issues are different when it comes to the sport and the stock heritage becuase the only issue that i run into with my 700clx sport is the cruise control. also from what ive seen from other riders if you get the gear indicator replaced it fixes that issue
Same thing happened to my 450SR saying it's in neutral then when i let go of the clutch it just stalled.
There’s already a fix for the gear indicator causing cruise to turn off in 6th gear, it took me about 10 minutes
The only thing I can see is the title that's supposed to say "Do I REGRET not buying the Indian FTR" 🤣🤣.
But, jokes aside, I see your points. Completely understand where you're coming from. But, if I don't trust the bike, no amount of financial incentives is going to convince me to ride it. Trust is everything.
Ive had my 22 clx700 for just about a month. Bought with 0 miles. I have 1050 on it now. I absolutely love it. But to be fair. I got it at a discount and i plan to upgrade to the ftr1200 lol
About the kickstand - if it allows you to start and go in gear with the kickstand out, I'd say it's an oversight. I'd much rather have a system that kills the engine/doesn't let it start if it detects it's in gear and has the kickstand out...
... like the yamahas do
As you said - 80% of the bike, for 80% of the price. I am really torn by that ngl, because I also was looking at one of these. They're incredibly cheap here in europe, dropping below 6k usd (post taxes) because people just don't quite buy enough to sell the inventory fast enough.
"I took that turn like sh#t"- proceeds to make up for it w exrta fast zoom 😂
- edit-
Steps to do when i get the clx- check for updates to fix ecu and and computer softwear
-dont use cruise control
- buy a new kickstand
-tuuuuuuuniing 😂
Love these videos dude. I’m not a huge fan of CFMoto… yet I can see the positives of these. I love how you’ve labeled it’s tech was as both a pro and con lol. Well said!
imo if the tech doesn’t work… no point of claiming it has the tech - typical lower cost vehicle… add more “features” to the list… makes the perception of a better bang for your buck. Hyundai and Kia have done this for years. It’s a winning method to obtain market share. So they’re not stupid.
Again dude love your take on this thing. Appreciate you brother.
Thanks dude! Agreed 100%! And I totally forgot to even mention the “self canceling” turn signals that only work when they decide they want to 😂 Like if you’re only going to self cancel 40% of the time, I’m still going to habitually cancel them every time…so why even have them? 🤷🏼♂️
@@LifeOfBurch It took me a while to figure it out, they seem to be speed based. If you turn them on over a certain speed they work more like lane switch indicator where they blink a few times. I'm guessing you probably have the same habit as me of indicating early and braking at the same time. So sometimes I have to activate them twice when coming up to a turn, one while slowing down and another once I'm almost stopped. It is kind of annoying.
And hyundai making great cars now
@@dearbulls I fear you’re missing the point… I never once stated that Hyundai was a bad car… nor the CFMoto a bad bike. I simply highlighted an issue/struggle that these newer to market manufacturers have, and their “fix” to gain market share. It’s genius really.
That said… you get what you pay for. I’ve had many family members buy these manufactures as they feel they’re getting better value… only to find themselves down a car. This happens from time to time and is not specific to manufacturer.
You’re a wise man already. Take it for me I’m 63, a motorcycle is not a machine you want to be overconfident on
All bikes should have a snotch that locks the kick stand when the weight of the bike is on it. Harley has this
I love the FTR got a poor man's version CFmoto CLX 700 sport
In 2018 I had a cfmoto nk400 (same powerplant as your 700 but only smaller) and it had the same snatchy throttle and the same 6 or 1 gear indicator issue. I can't believe they didn't fix these issues yet
About #3, you need street cred to ride? Do your thing man, whatever others think, who cares
Dude, where did you get the saddlebag brackets. What brand are they
He said they were included with it.
He has a video when he mounted them. They are sw motech
Cfmoto owns a large portion of ktm and has a lot of their technology. It's like the baby brother of KTM.
Loving my new 24’ KTM 790 Adventure. Made in China by CFmoto. This bike is crazy good, crazy fun to ride. I’m waiting for it to fall apart but so far so good. 🤞🤞🤞
Why didn't you get the original 790 with all the tech pack feature for free and 10hp more.
@@chriswest2290 because I bought the new one. 😂
@rhugh02 no good deals on the best and original but new. Like old stock then? Shame
Next week I pick up a new but 2023 model 890r, got it for 9k. Gotta pay 600 bucks for the tech pack 😤
CFMoto is a good bike for someone getting into motorcycling. Here CFMoto failed and have barely been able to make any major impact into the market. The issues were with after markets service. Yes, they are cheap.
Which would you prefer Cl-x700 or MT07/xsr700 as a second motorcycle.
MT07 all day
Yamy mt
Just pull in the clutch when you start it
12:00 "need help picking it up"
1. BurchAlert, like LifeAlert but with bikes.
2. Maaaan, if Doodle ever does meet-up stuff, there'd be some dope collab potential with Nina and Doodle.
16:00 I know a dealership in Cleveland that sells and supports CFMoto, like.. more than half of their stock is CFMoto.
Ton of CFMoto and then like three V85TT, then kawasaki dirtbikes.
Road trip to Cleveland, TN for dealership support? 😂😂 (By tome you get here you'd need another service just before going back :P)
(Heh heh! I was unintentionally ahead of ya at 18:42 with the dealer "network" (hardly even a spider strand, not even a spider web))
19:07 "10-14 Days??! I'll just take my chances with the Chinese Stuff"
... aren't you taking chances with the Chinese stuff either way? Hehe.
19:47 talking about credibility/reliability .. when you mentioned a USB port in bottom of seat for phone charging.. lol that's a hellno for me.
I'd either just bypass it and use Quadlock SAE to USB port cable running to Quadlock mount OR buy a Data Blocker from that same company that makes the Flipper0 (Penetration Testing tool for cyber security, made recent news from being banned from something I think) so that when I plug in the USB it's only power getting through and not data (useful to own if you use airport phone chargers frequently)
20:32 "since they haven't been out as long, you don't know what to expect reliability wise" Well, you can be the test dummy for all of us .....since you'll be having to do ~608 miles over 9 hours to just go to your bi-annual motorcycle shop for OEM parts
I feel people are sleeping a bit on CF Moto..
Still not well known enough in the US. other parts of the world know they're generally pretty good. I like mine
here you are ripping around on a 700cc chinese bike and I'm over here ripping around my town on a 1978 Honda Trail 90...
I have both. The trail 90 will always be my absolute favorite.
@@ddorko I just got mine last week, and got it running again. It’s an absolute riot to run on the streets.
I had the same exact thing happen twice with my CLX where it indicated Neutral and it was really in second when starting it. The starter motor made the bike lurch forward but it turned off as soon as it moved it shut off. I've just consistently pull in the clutch when starting, even if I'm in neutral.
I've had the same exact experiences, the kick stand is a bit weird and has too small of a contact patch. I also notice the snatchy fueling/mapping at different parts of the rev range.
Thanks for your videos, I used your links for the levers and bar end mirrors.
You still haven't got extra washer off the gear indicater sensor
Thats the heritage right?
If it's any consolation it came out first over the FTR.
I kinda consider the CF at early Hyundai stage of their existence. Early Hyundai we're not very good or refined but they were the first car ppl considered outside the know mainstream. CF is the same right now, not great or very refined but are making strides and improving. Will they achieve what Hyundai has? Time will tell but I wouldn't buy one yet.
They're way way way past early Hyundai stage. They're 90% of the budget Japanese bikes and I would even argue that some of them are better than some south east Asian built Japanese bikes
Had me at curse 😂
Hello here in México chinese bikes represent 70 percent of total sales. They are not reliable but you can find all their parts anywhere for very cheap. Even in small towns .
So people buy them because they are cheap to buy and cheap to maintain.
The only way for cf moto to succeed is to have availability of spare parts for same day purchase.
But chinese bikes are not what shou should watch out for. Bikes from india Hero snd Bajaj are so much better for similar prices. They will take over honda some day.
I suppose the styling wouldn't be so bad if the back end hadn't fallen off?
When I was buying a new bike in 2022 here in Croatia, as it was August (small market), all I had to chose from was this and the Rebel 500... in the end I went with the Rebel, and I'm definitely better of.
yeah its 3k cheaper than a cbr650/cb650. it's also slow as f.
Cb650 will eat 700clx alive for breakfast lunch and dinner and still be hungry
Only in a straight line. Coming out of harder corners the CLX is faster with a lower torque curve. It depends on the environment.
600 miles in two months? You haven't ridden it enough.
😂 average a whole 10 or less miles a day he's damn near wore the tires down
Spite di a video on one of those. I think he said it was a cf moto collaboration with Husqvarna
Interesting. I’ll have to check his video out!
Might want to try cross referencing KTM/Husky parts
You definitely got your $2,500 worth. I definitely wouldn't go over $5,000 for a new one.
KTM motor
I’m 1 minute in, does he regret buying it? Thanks in advance 👍🏻
He got it for $2500 so, no - but he wouldn't buy one new. You're welcome 👍
All the issues you mentioned is exactly why I didn't get a CFMoto. Used? Sure, they don't hold their value at all.
It's all those little things and corner cuts that make the price cheaper. These things won't stand the test of time unlike their japanese competition.
They are a great value if you can find them used as a beginner bike. Honestly wish I grabbed one of these used off the marketplace for a first bike. Wouldn't give a crap about the paint being scuffed, emblem falling off, wiggly levers, weird electronic issues, cheap kick stand, etc etc...
Yeah...not like a Japanese manufacturer would ever sell you a faulty Motorcycle...
-SUZUKI-
Total rubbish. I've got a 10 year old one that I daily.
The only regret people are gonna have with buying CF Moto is reselling them. People don’t know who they are and when they research it as a Chinese product they aren’t gonna want it most of the time.
😂 you might not know who cfmoto is because you don't know motorcycles. But anyone who knows already knows it's a KTM engine (they have made motors for KTM for ages) and most other part are parts they make for every other manufacturer
@@stephenbarabas6286 never said I don’t know. I said people in general because the average consumer won’t.
@@MotoMedicine904 with all the coverage this brand and brands like Kove have been getting people know.
Another problem with CF as far as the dealer support side is concerned is: Where are their warehouses located? Does their dealer site have to use google translate to put it in English? Can they even contact the dealer rep? Cause I work at a dealer/shop that sells Segway side by sides and omg is it a pain in the ass to get parts for them. Cause their warehouses are in China. So it takes somewhere in the 2-12 week category to get the parts. (Got a dood that's been waiting 2 months to get a clutch tool) The dealer site is garbage. Has to be translated from Chinese and doesn't work, well half the time and at all the other half. Dealer rep? Think i've seen him once in the 2 years i've been working there, and never talked to him on the phone. Straight to voice mail. I haven't been up to our sister store(a CF dealer) to see, but i'm willing to bet it's much the same. It's worth finding a CF dealer and asking those questions. Even if you are planning on buying 3rd party.
In the end you get what you pay for. Yes a MT-07 is about 2k more expensive, but for that you get a lot more than just the bike. Like: being able to walk into any Yamaha deal across the country, and even if they don't have the parts in stock. Getting them in about a week. That said, for 2.5k it would be worth the ball ache.
Less is more... That's what I appreciate about my Kawasaki z650rs
should be more than 600 miles brotha. 2k miles is good for a solid review
I put at least 20k miles on my bike unless I hate it (I only have 1 or 2 bikes in my possession at any given time). I'll wait some more and see how well these CF Motos hold up over time.
I've got a 10 year old one with 40,000 Kms here in Australia that works perfectly. Some of the bolts rusted and some of the paint was crap, but it's as reliable as a tank. Only issue it has ever had was it needed a new ECU and a small oil leak from an o-ring that needed replacing. So pretty good, no worse than anything else I've owned. The ECU is a known problem but the new ones don't have that issue. Was going to buy an MT07 or MT09, but realised I don't really need either and will just keep the cfmoto
@@christopherpekel6096 I didn't know CFMoto have been selling their bikes outside of China for over 10 years. That's kind of awesome, man.
@@911Salvage I think there's a lot of denial and a preconceived opinion about all this Chinese stuff. It's just the 70's with the Japanese all over again. As with any bike or brand, the people who get a lemon voice it the loudest online...
300 Miles bro ? to be honest that is only one weekend of driving.
Bend the kick stnd a bit
I guess it's the old story of 'you get what you pay for'. Yes they are cheaper when new but you lose most of their value when you come to resell and considering they are cheaper in the US, they must be really cheap in Asia and maybe almost thought of as 'disposable' by the manufacturer, so you ride it till it's too expensive to fix and then strap it, which is kind of the Chinese mindset for products anyway, hence the lack of parts/upgrades etc
🤔
Wrong.
Same company that make the Ktm 690 so there’s a lot ok ktm in cfmoto
Go for an SV650 imo
Yeh that's what I would do too.
Dog my Ibex 800 ran over my foot and took off into the grass one time.
Literally started in neutral and ran over my foot and fell over too the right in the grass.
Well in first, but said it was in neutral.
Same performance as a CBR 650 R? 😂
I would bet that you can't get parts for it if you have a Problem .
No fair I Subscribed very long time ago and still can't find sh*t lol
learn the quirks and take responsibility, where is your street cred?
So you know it's quirks and shortcomings, and it's fit and finish issues, and that it comes with some many more features standard than more expensive bikes, and it is a only a $6.5k bike, but you whinge? Give yourself an uppercut!
Like I said in your first video, CFMoto cuts corners in ways that you only notice after you own it a while. And the lack of support gets worse as it ages. Getting parts for my 09 CFMoto is real hard. CFMoto was started in 89. It has been in the US market sense 03. Being to new is their excuse. Every problem they have is from cutting corners to save money. Not that they are not decent bikes, I as still riding an 09 so they do last. But I think the new ones are still overpriced for what you get.
Wait they were already making motorcycles for the US market in 09?? Or are you somewhere else? For some reason I thought they were only doing ATV’s and stuff like that for the US market until they came out with all their current road-legal stuff in 2022.
@@LifeOfBurch I am in the US just outside Chattanooga Tennessee. My bike design was first built in 03. They sold it in the US under the CFMoto name and the Qlink name until 2013 when the US government stepped in. They didn't meet US requirements. I don't know if they were not allowed to import street legal stuff for a while or they just chose not to. But they want you to think they are new to the market, not a company returning to the market after legal problems. Google CFMOTO V5 or CFMOTO V3 to see the two bikes they sold in the US until 2013. I have the V5
@@LifeOfBurch responded to this an it vanished. CFMOTO had their V5 An V3 in the US until 2012. The US made them recall them for not having a foot brake. I was thinking it was 2013 but that was the last year of production. If the forced recall happened in 2012 an the new bikes were first imported in 2022, that implies they had a 10 year import ban. That would explain a lot anyway. I just know the bikes exist, the recall was ordered, an there are still a lot of them so they didn't do a very good job getting them back. I bought mine in Kentucky in 2020.
@@RebelCowboysRVs damn I had no idea! That’s super interesting. I’m honestly surprised they even allowed them with no rear brake in the first place…or I guess they flew under the radar somehow 😳
@@LifeOfBurch They were automatics. Because they don't have a clutch, the rear brake was moved to the left hand lever like a scooter. But under US law, all motorcycles have to have a right foot brake. It is part of the standardization laws that stopped English brands importing bikes in to the US with a right foot shifter an left foot brake.
I have about 6500 miles on my Clx 700 and the only issue I’ve experienced was the cruise control issue. While cruising in 6th gear, the display would indicate 1st gear and kick the cruise control off.
At first I would just push my foot up against the shift selector while I used cruise control, but eventually I adjusted my shift link and the issue went away.
Cursed with 7 years of mild inconveniences.
Day 1 of telling burch to buy a cbr1000
LOL- all the positives are subjective, then one of the cons is one of your positives, then of course the second two cons--> Chinese engineering and quality.
You might not regret buying the bike, but the guy who paid $6800 for it and then could only sell it for $2500, I bet he regretted buying it.