The All Blacks require less predictability in their plays, faster delivery out, ball security, Ball management & discipline. Play as a team of 15 not as 15 Players in a team. Have confidence & belief to execute comit to the play & follow it thru. Basic fundamentals of rugby apply & that philosophy doesn't end at the highest level.
At this point I believe that the Pumas thrashing defeats in 2020 and 2022 after beating the AB are playing more in the hands of the Pumas than the AB. I don't see a Pumas side crumbling again in this one.
Yeah well done Tim, you're the first one to really pick up on how significant that is, Montoya coming back. The Pumas could do it, I just think we (NZ) look so vulnerable right now and you're totally right again, our second row a long way down from since the RWC plus halfback, plus a far from frightening loose forward mix. I'm usually totally optimistic re the ABs, right now I don't feel like that at all.
Eden park has a helluva record. Quite insane really. Although it would be so characteristically Argentinian to topple it. Left field, totally unexpected. A shock.
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 I agree. Total implosion if they loss a second to arg in the garden. But I doubt it bro, the boys will put up a big performance I think
Feel for Lienert-Brown. I thought he had a very decent game under difficult circumstances and deserved another run out. Do not feel this is the best centre pairing AB's have to offer, but possibly they should re-look this after the SA leg.
Sometimes it is easier to win a game than to handle the victory and go again, something the boks showed in the WC - that said, Id love another argie win VAMOS
The Pumas and All Blacks have a genuine rivalry now. I get excited for their games knowing the Pumas can beat the All Blacks on their day and have proven it several times now, twice in NZ.
Haha, I know right! The get a close win over England: not good enough. They complain about the lack of highly competitive opposition and when they lose: they panic and have an even bigger sulk. Mind you, Boks fans are just as bad. They struggle to handle a loss too
I suspect that this game is going to be more difficult for the AB's than the last one. Pumas will be going into this one with the belief they can win again.
and that will be their downfall - pride comes before a fall - Ireland know all about that - expectation is a killer in rugby and the abs will win and do 42-10
I think Dmac needs to start making better decisions is knowing when to attack and knowing when to play the percentages and get the AB's out of trouble. Once he sorts that out, they might be a good team, but they have nothing that nobody else has.
@@markthompson7817 That's easy to say, but that's the time your 10 needs to stand up and kick for territory, clear your red zone, turn the opposition forwards around. Dmac doesn't have those abilities. He tries to run it out and that's why we get caught.
It's one loss. Calm down. NZ rugby wanted better competition instead of smashing the Aussies and Island nations. You get the Pumas, lose one game, and suddenly, every kiwi stresses out! Seems you're not accustomed to what EVERY TEAM IN WORLD RUGBY EXPERIENCES: losing. Chill out
Correct me if I’m wrong, but NZ pack last week was 912kg and Argentina 900. So size itself is not the issue, more the capabilities of the players they have.
Ja, I don't see the AB's stuttering twice in a row, and a wounded AB's is always more dangerous than usual. The only thing which might sabotage their comeback would be the question mark regarding DMac's abilities as a starting 10, he's always struck me as more of an impact player, similar to Kwagga Smith. With Mo'unga currently out of the picture, why they have not gone for the tried and tested Beauden Barrett at 10 is beyond me 🤘
cause beady is old by rugby terms. dont build a team around a guy who wont be around or at the level in 2 years time. beaudy is good, but very few backline players make it to 37 (next world he will be 37) still wearing a tier 1 international teams starting jersey. id be tempted to go for it if i were razor if dmac has another bad game. but ultimately i think dmac should get to finish out the rugby championship unless he has another shocking performance.
@@myusernameizgud1722 YeahIknow, you don't need to build a team around him, you need him short term until Mo'unga gets back from his sabbatical, 'cause DMac's not the answer 🤘
BB has NOT played 10 in a very long while! Even Richie took a year or 2 to make that 10 jersey his. Can we stop for a change. I would have liked Plummer to get a shot but in a crunch game maybe not so much!
@@Kittz1301 I could have sworn I heard somewhere he was being enticed back, but fair enough if he's gonna stay for the full 3. Personally, I'd still go for Beauden ahead of DMac regardless of when last he played 10, he's absolute proven class. But what the hell do I know about kiwi rugby, I'm a bloody Saffa 🤘😉
38 points and the pumas saw the AB s mentally fall to pieces and that is significant ; Make no mistake we know have an army of coaches who are not proven out side NZ and that’s coming home too roost big time . A very very panicky team now and I’m going pumas for this one .
@@gerhardpotgieter840 Slept on him? No one in NZ slept on him, he pretty much pioneered NZ's attack style a decade ago. Coaches won't get picked for a national team for a variety of reasons, and him not being picked had nothing to do with skill. He would've been in if Jamie Joseph had gotten the job back in 2019.
With this coaching mob I'm not confident the ABs will protect that Eden Park record. On the plus side Sam Cane will be beck around half time but he should e starting.
Tim’s right again, we miss three big experienced locks and a number six. It’s easy to pick holes elsewhere because elsewhere is visible. Bring back Tuipolotu and Barrett, I would start Barrett and Darry with Patrick on the bench. Put Papalii at six, that’s the way he plays and Mex my old team mate agrees. DMac and company will continue to look poor while we go backward at the breakdown.
Yep. Tinkering with the backline will not be the reason for a win or loss. The pack needs to come with edge. The guys selected CAN do it...but there are some important men out
It has to be said, the Rugby Championship has not been this exciting in years. I honestly do hope that Argentina pitch up again and give the AB's a proper run for their money.
Argentina needs a regular international club competition to develop and foster its players. The Jaguares team in Super Rugby again, or even in the URC. Imagine England without the Premiership and the Champtionship, France without the Top 14 and N2, and so on. Impossible to believe.
Cuando Jaguares llegó a la final del super Rugby ,nadie lo podía creer.Luego nos quitaron la oportunidad de seguir jugando el SR .A muchos no les gustaba que un equipo sudamericano pudiera llegar a una final de SR y tal vez dar la sorpresa de ganarla.Nuestro Rugby doméstico es amateur y así y todo logramos ganarles a los mejores tres veces hasta ahora.
Before watching your video, yes. The record is very much up for grabs. As a lifelong All Blacks fan who has a ticket to this game, im very nervous about it. Razor has not inspired much confidence in me as the national coach. The area we were bullied in was the loosies, and theres been no changes there in the starters. Blackadder as well had no impact and gave away really bad penalties that hurt the team tremendously. Idk man, Argentina are very much in with a chance to take away the record at the garden. As a kiwi fan i cant believe that thats the case 🤦
2nd tests are usually all about emotion, especially when the favorite has lost the week before. The WC semi-final would suggest that Argentina played well beyond themselves last week. It's almost impossible to do that two weeks in a row in test rugby because it's so emotionally draining. Think of England in the 2019 WC final after obliterating NZ in the semi. The reason Ireland were able to beat NZ two weeks in a row in the summer of 22 was because Farrell made his players believe winning a series was possible before they even set foot in the country. The win in the 2nd test wasn't a massive surprise for them. Coming into the championship, a best-case scenario for Arg would have been a win against NZ, two home wins vs Australia, and a win against SA. That would be an outstanding championship. So really, it's job well done as far as the NZ tour goes. An extra bonus point or two would be even better. There's no way this NZ team is as bad as two home losses on the trot, one in Eden Park, would suggest, right? I expect NZ to come out hard and mean this week, and to win by a fair margin. If not, things are off to a disastrous start.
Sorry Argentina I think NZ will show up big time for this one, I think they'll see this as a final and it won't be a 1 point game either but last week all my predictions were wrong so I won't hold my breathe for this one.
I wonder if NZ playing so much in their own half ( welll done Argies) meant the forwards were a little risk averse (no penalties given away) meant they got dominated more and more as the gamme went on. Theres no doubt NZ crumbled under pressure towards the end of the game but we are in rebulding phase now.
Pumas know the double is their new standard now - i'd give them a good chance they have the talent, skills and motivation - and btw the AB's should get rid of those nun-like shirt collars, what were they thinking?
If Argentina had only beaten the All Blacks once, i would view the 2nd test at Eden Park as a possible win in favour to the All Blacks. Now that these two have had losses & wins against each other, im viewing this matchup as a 51% to 49% in favour of an AB victory.
Methinks that's the big step up between test rugby and provincial, regional or club rugby. If you coach the Crusaders, Toulouse or the Bulls, you play week in and week out. Lots of chances to try things and play around. In test rugby, every game matters and you have one chance to get it right.
As a Kiwi & a devout ABs fan, i must say that there were times in the past when I hoped we would lose?!..i mean, one can get tired of seeing their team win all the time, I kno i did..So now it's good to see the 'usually beaten' giving us a run. God, it took some of them long enuf aye?!. Gr8 to see those Irish have finally got the hang of it..Rugby that is, not sobriety..heh heh..heh..Smashin your Pommy overlords, I love it..You've also got to give it to those Pumas espc after what the Poms put them through years ago at Falklands?! Now they get to show their not all maradona's while they kick & stomp those Union Jacks! & what's all this kerfuffle about the record at the 'Garden of Eden' comin to an end? After last wks loss, lots of armchair experts have gone 'chicken little', cryin ' the sky is fallin'..oh dear, how sad, nevermind. I calm myself, remembering mother nature has taught me that there's always sunshine after rain, always?!.It's ok to expect th worst but don't forget, you can hope for the best.. If you get my drift?!...Ok..I'm out...GDNZ
All Blacks by 20. I'm a Bok supporter, but I would never write off an All Black side that are hurting and hungry. Also, would be good for Boks if both NZ and Argies are won one, lost one 😎🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
I think Anton Lienert-Brown had to be dropped to the bench. He was rushing up to cut off the edge and Argentina pilled through the hole he left on a few occasions including leading up to the first Argentina try.
Tim regarding the combined teams please put the score out of 15 for the starters and also score outta 8 for the teams next to the names. Just more obvious. Tx. Albert 🤔
As a long-suffering Bok supporter, we all know about an AB backlash! It's not a pretty sight and teams generally go into damage control! I could be wrong but the ABs will gnashing their teeth for Saturday! It would be incredible to see The Pumas win 2 on the trot against the ABs!
On my feed this video is 7 mins since being posted- 166 views and ~10 comments. Impressive. To your question - yes, it’s at risk. For me the balance of the backrow remains wrong, but hoping for a black lash….
Argentina are a genuine threat in this comp and no longer the easy beats. They are elite and should probably roll the wallabies twice. They have a real chance at history here.
To be honest this is the first AB team I've seen where it looks to be a bit of mix and match without any overall strategy. There's a few players that shouldn't be starting. Have a feeling Los Pumas are going to go better this weekend, yes calling an AB loss, though I will of course be supporting the Blackness.
Key positions need to be kane starting, beaudon at first five and jordon at fullback. Use the best people in the most important positions and pick the team around them.
Besides Razor being way out of his depth and a bunch of assistant coaches which Razor has beaten for 7 years, NZ rugby have been playing themselves in Super rugby with Australia having given up Rugby Union. NZ Rugby needs to be playing international teams, like South Africa, in the URC and the European championship. South African rugby is growing, NZ rugby is struggling. Pride might get them over the line, but if Argentina turn up, the AB's will be very lucky to get a win.
I don't really understand why people keep saying australia has given up on rugby union. South Africa have literally been in the same situation australia are I now in the past. Losses to Japan and Italy, and getting absolutely destroyed 50 to nill against new zealand. SA isn't exactly growing, its just that they've finally got a strong team. Australia will eventually. Every team eventually goes through this phase. Wales are going through it right now too. They'll eventually find a way out of it
@@AbeHopwood the difference with south africa is they never dropped to the lower half of the top 10, or out of the top 10. they also never had a drought of world class players, it just took awhile to get those pieces to fit together they way the fit together now. rugby was always the #1 sport over there. im a kiwi, still live in nz but ik a lot of aussies. none of them care about union, even the few kiwis living in aus i know dont care either. you have a country with 5x the number of people as nz but less registered rugby players, and your numbers are declining faster than ours. australia will rise again but i do not believe they will ever be comparable to the best in the world again with out massive change.
@@myusernameizgud1722 Agreed. Like Tim, I’m a Pommy bastard, but I noticed the same thing when I lived in Oz as a uni student. Rugby just doesn’t have the appeal there that the NRL and Aussie Rules both enjoy. I don’t think the game will die out, but it will always be a fairly marginal, élite pursuit. In New Zealand, the game is much more egalitarian, not being the preserve of public school boys.
Dear Tim: very very different teams from the SF. Argentina did not have Matera in that game. Matera in the current form is 50% of the pack, emotionally
Con el triunfo del primer partido, Contepomi pudo desquitarse por lo que pasó en 2021 ,Felipe se equivoca y Robertson liquida el partido. Ahora hay un record que quebrar.Lo pueden ver en este video.Pero además los fan de ABs deberían aprender en este video como se apoya a tu equipo Look that crowd ! th-cam.com/video/qeKzHXALxcU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_ytGhtjzaJIBkABe
NZ has problems in the loose forward mix and at halfback. Also there’s inconsistency in selection . One minute ioane is out owing to performance then he’s back in again without showing form.
halfback position is not a problem at all. the inconsistency in selection is due to injury and giving others opportunity. we cant grow new talent if they dont play
Elite rugby is al about attitude. they are all capable of winning. The AB's will have a completely different attitude this week. Argies will get the backlashn not because they have improved but because they are determined.
So the AB's don't just have to turn up at games now. Not a bad thing and it's great seeing lower tier teams on the rise. It's not just an NZ v SA anymore although the Boks are on a high. What is surprising me most is this reacting to a loss by swinging the axe, where's your overarching game-plan Razor? Playing game to game is not building towards a future.
I would love to see Arg do it again, but its still the All Blacks. Will be much harder for Arg. In reality will be better for the boks if ABs have a good win. Dont want to have an angry AB side come to SA....
Realistically, the All Blacks are suffering from 3 key things. No forward pack - our best forwards are average at best. No self-belief - shown by our complete lack of composure and poor execution. No chemistry - it looks like you have 15 people playing by themselves against one team of 15 playing for each other. A champion team will always beat a team of champions, and the All Blacks currently are that team of champions who dont know how to play together. My 2 cence anyway, not that anyone gives a crap.
Not to mention assuming because it's a home game they are entitled to an automatic win, like in the past. It's great to see the kiwis struggle! I always say: an All Black loss is a win for World Rugby. The rugby world no longer revolves around the kiwis and its great to see other international teams lift, develop, and win!
@elscruffomcscruffy8371 that's a losers mentality for certain. It's pretty typical of people who struggle to see greatness because you're incapable of it yourself. You're not entitled to a win in anything in life, but the expectation for the All Blacks is to win every test, home and away.
Our forwards are soft and have no grunt. the backline is a mess, players are out of form and confused by the avalanche of coaching "expertise", and D Mac's fly in a bottle style. We will likely eke a win but it has to by 20 points plus.
One loss and the kiwis freak out They win a good competitive seeries against England: still not happy They will happily beat up Tier 2 nations and rack up big scores, then complain about the lack of competition: still not happy. The rugby world isnt about the All Blacks. Accept the loss and move forward
Argies should again target and take out captain Ardie, and presurise TJ no.9, like last week. Then do the same when Sam Cane comes on. Do not allow Dmac to go on the run and be in Caleb Clarcke's face.
What i find hilarious is that kiwi fans moan and groan about the lack of competition and challenge from opponents, then teams, who were once easy beats, come along and beat the All Blacks, the same fans then have a whinge and cant handle losing! Even the close win over England wasnt good enough for some. They are never happy haha
Easy win for the abs here. Argentina just pulled one out. It happens. Theyve beaten the boks 3 times also.l They are effectively the new france. Abs to still win the rugby championship as always. Boks are only 2 wins and 1 loss this year and one of those wins is against Australia lolololol
How did SA come into this…insecurity being shown here by the Kiwi supporters? Boks have played 3 times this year, twice against the only side on par with them at the moment. Boks will take this championship as well as the Mandela cup. Easy win, you’ve been beaten by Argentina 2 times in the past 3 years and both of them were away games for them…careful - it’s the 50th game a lot in on the line (could the pressure prove to much - I mean Razor has finally selected Cane).
@@mitch2924 lol the abs last beat Ireland. It was the boks that couldn't do that in the cup. You are 2 losses one win to them. Overstate your victory over Australia as much as you want its quite hilarious for a team ticking along at a 60% win rate
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I like that on the Argentinian team sheet it doesn't say bench, or replacements, it says "Finishers." Starters and finishers, i like that
Cheika started that
dont let Matt Williams see that
Nice, Boks have the Nuke Squad, Pumas have TheFinishers
ABs says Impact
@@lonwabiso1Fans says implode.
Argentina discipline will be the key to the game
The All Blacks require less predictability in their plays, faster delivery out, ball security, Ball management & discipline. Play as a team of 15 not as 15 Players in a team. Have confidence & belief to execute comit to the play & follow it thru. Basic fundamentals of rugby apply & that philosophy doesn't end at the highest level.
At this point I believe that the Pumas thrashing defeats in 2020 and 2022 after beating the AB are playing more in the hands of the Pumas than the AB. I don't see a Pumas side crumbling again in this one.
Yeah well done Tim, you're the first one to really pick up on how significant that is, Montoya coming back. The Pumas could do it, I just think we (NZ) look so vulnerable right now and you're totally right again, our second row a long way down from since the RWC plus halfback, plus a far from frightening loose forward mix. I'm usually totally optimistic re the ABs, right now I don't feel like that at all.
Congratulations Tim.....passed the 100,000 subscribers.Stunning achievement and well deserved. You're simply the best . .cheers
Eden park has a helluva record. Quite insane really. Although it would be so characteristically Argentinian to topple it. Left field, totally unexpected. A shock.
I can imagine this will be a rather big win for NZ. They usually respond well after a loss, and they won’t loss at Eden
Usually, yet the rugby world would love to see another Pumas win. NZ would go into meltdown!
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 I agree. Total implosion if they loss a second to arg in the garden. But I doubt it bro, the boys will put up a big performance I think
Feel for Lienert-Brown. I thought he had a very decent game under difficult circumstances and deserved another run out. Do not feel this is the best centre pairing AB's have to offer, but possibly they should re-look this after the SA leg.
Please win Argentina and make history. The Springboks would love to break that record now.
So happy for the Clarke replacing Tele'a, somehow I feel Clarke has an oomf factor that Tele'a is missing.
Yeah Clarke has finally returned to his pre-7s form
Sometimes it is easier to win a game than to handle the victory and go again, something the boks showed in the WC - that said, Id love another argie win VAMOS
The Pumas and All Blacks have a genuine rivalry now. I get excited for their games knowing the Pumas can beat the All Blacks on their day and have proven it several times now, twice in NZ.
One loss and people lose their minds. Give them a season see where they are. ABs forwards going to be brutal this week.
Agree🇿🇦
Haha, I know right! The get a close win over England: not good enough. They complain about the lack of highly competitive opposition and when they lose: they panic and have an even bigger sulk.
Mind you, Boks fans are just as bad. They struggle to handle a loss too
I suspect that this game is going to be more difficult for the AB's than the last one. Pumas will be going into this one with the belief they can win again.
and that will be their downfall - pride comes before a fall - Ireland know all about that - expectation is a killer in rugby and the abs will win and do 42-10
@@bodybalanceU2 Hah, I will say this aged well >_
I think Dmac needs to start making better decisions is knowing when to attack and knowing when to play the percentages and get the AB's out of trouble.
Once he sorts that out, they might be a good team, but they have nothing that nobody else has.
Very hard to look good at 10 when the forwards are losing the gain line, with slow service from 9.
@@Billcali we need to stop focussing on DMac, he is playing behind a pack getting owned at the breakdown, no one looks good in that situation.
@@markthompson7817 That's easy to say, but that's the time your 10 needs to stand up and kick for territory, clear your red zone, turn the opposition forwards around. Dmac doesn't have those abilities. He tries to run it out and that's why we get caught.
@@markthompson7817 Na he's made some really bad decisions that cost us valuable points.
i am starting to see that we have a very good Super Rugby All Blacks but not a very good All Black Test team.
Easy to look good punching down against tier 2 nation club teams🤷🏼♂️...
It's one loss. Calm down. NZ rugby wanted better competition instead of smashing the Aussies and Island nations. You get the Pumas, lose one game, and suddenly, every kiwi stresses out! Seems you're not accustomed to what EVERY TEAM IN WORLD RUGBY EXPERIENCES: losing.
Chill out
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 stressed ? lol
Congrats on the 100k subs
Correct me if I’m wrong, but NZ pack last week was 912kg and Argentina 900. So size itself is not the issue, more the capabilities of the players they have.
There were no scrums for the first 60min. None of the starting front rowers from either side experienced a scrum.
Argies did out scrum them when there was scrums, they also out muscled them at the breakdowns making 7 turn overs...pumas to do the double.
@@SSAucamp Not at Eden Park. The NZ TAB has the ABs paying $1.15.
Ja, I don't see the AB's stuttering twice in a row, and a wounded AB's is always more dangerous than usual. The only thing which might sabotage their comeback would be the question mark regarding DMac's abilities as a starting 10, he's always struck me as more of an impact player, similar to Kwagga Smith. With Mo'unga currently out of the picture, why they have not gone for the tried and tested Beauden Barrett at 10 is beyond me 🤘
cause beady is old by rugby terms. dont build a team around a guy who wont be around or at the level in 2 years time. beaudy is good, but very few backline players make it to 37 (next world he will be 37) still wearing a tier 1 international teams starting jersey. id be tempted to go for it if i were razor if dmac has another bad game. but ultimately i think dmac should get to finish out the rugby championship unless he has another shocking performance.
@@myusernameizgud1722 YeahIknow, you don't need to build a team around him, you need him short term until Mo'unga gets back from his sabbatical, 'cause DMac's not the answer 🤘
BB has NOT played 10 in a very long while! Even Richie took a year or 2 to make that 10 jersey his. Can we stop for a change. I would have liked Plummer to get a shot but in a crunch game maybe not so much!
@@adamvanderriet9669 Richie chose to move for money; he isn't on sabbatical. He signed a 3 year contract if i'm not mistaken!!!!
@@Kittz1301 I could have sworn I heard somewhere he was being enticed back, but fair enough if he's gonna stay for the full 3. Personally, I'd still go for Beauden ahead of DMac regardless of when last he played 10, he's absolute proven class. But what the hell do I know about kiwi rugby, I'm a bloody Saffa 🤘😉
You don't get it. The record is on the line every game. You have to maintain this every game. AB legacy.
Clark for at least one try
Blackadder for at least 3 penalties which could cost us.
I'm surprised Blackadder stayed healthy. The bloke is constantly injured
Nice to see I was wrong about Blackadder...what a turn around👍
38 points and the pumas saw the AB s mentally fall to pieces and that is significant ; Make no mistake we know have an army of coaches who are not proven out side NZ and that’s coming home too roost big time . A very very panicky team now and I’m going pumas for this one .
Tony Brown is really doing exciting things in the Bok attacking game,you guys slept on him.
@@gerhardpotgieter840 Slept on him? No one in NZ slept on him, he pretty much pioneered NZ's attack style a decade ago. Coaches won't get picked for a national team for a variety of reasons, and him not being picked had nothing to do with skill. He would've been in if Jamie Joseph had gotten the job back in 2019.
With this coaching mob I'm not confident the ABs will protect that Eden Park record. On the plus side Sam Cane will be beck around half time but he should e starting.
Tim’s right again, we miss three big experienced locks and a number six. It’s easy to pick holes elsewhere because elsewhere is visible. Bring back Tuipolotu and Barrett, I would start Barrett and Darry with Patrick on the bench. Put Papalii at six, that’s the way he plays and Mex my old team mate agrees. DMac and company will continue to look poor while we go backward at the breakdown.
Yep. Tinkering with the backline will not be the reason for a win or loss. The pack needs to come with edge. The guys selected CAN do it...but there are some important men out
Barretts injured, so is tuipolotu dudes
@@joebradley7595 correct not being able to select them doesn’t mean we don’t miss them.
@@markthompson7817 agreed 👍
@@EggchasersRugbyI'm an AB's fan, but black adder and papili'i are probably C team players, I'd have frizzel with finau, with sitiiti on the bench.
It has to be said, the Rugby Championship has not been this exciting in years. I honestly do hope that Argentina pitch up again and give the AB's a proper run for their money.
Spot on! Great to see the ABs get rattled. Everyone gets tired of seeing the same team win it each year. Healthy competition is always welcomed
Argentina needs a regular international club competition to develop and foster its players. The Jaguares team in Super Rugby again, or even in the URC. Imagine England without the Premiership and the Champtionship, France without the Top 14 and N2, and so on. Impossible to believe.
Cuando Jaguares llegó a la final del super Rugby ,nadie lo podía creer.Luego nos quitaron la oportunidad de seguir jugando el SR .A muchos no les gustaba que un equipo sudamericano pudiera llegar a una final de SR y tal vez dar la sorpresa de ganarla.Nuestro Rugby doméstico es amateur y así y todo logramos ganarles a los mejores tres veces hasta ahora.
Before watching your video, yes. The record is very much up for grabs. As a lifelong All Blacks fan who has a ticket to this game, im very nervous about it. Razor has not inspired much confidence in me as the national coach. The area we were bullied in was the loosies, and theres been no changes there in the starters. Blackadder as well had no impact and gave away really bad penalties that hurt the team tremendously. Idk man, Argentina are very much in with a chance to take away the record at the garden. As a kiwi fan i cant believe that thats the case 🤦
If you squint your eyes it kinda looks like Sam Cane just has tiny legs😂
Good one. Sharp eye. Noticed it too.😁👍
Best comment of the week.
2nd tests are usually all about emotion, especially when the favorite has lost the week before. The WC semi-final would suggest that Argentina played well beyond themselves last week. It's almost impossible to do that two weeks in a row in test rugby because it's so emotionally draining. Think of England in the 2019 WC final after obliterating NZ in the semi. The reason Ireland were able to beat NZ two weeks in a row in the summer of 22 was because Farrell made his players believe winning a series was possible before they even set foot in the country. The win in the 2nd test wasn't a massive surprise for them.
Coming into the championship, a best-case scenario for Arg would have been a win against NZ, two home wins vs Australia, and a win against SA. That would be an outstanding championship. So really, it's job well done as far as the NZ tour goes. An extra bonus point or two would be even better.
There's no way this NZ team is as bad as two home losses on the trot, one in Eden Park, would suggest, right? I expect NZ to come out hard and mean this week, and to win by a fair margin. If not, things are off to a disastrous start.
Very good team selection, will be a big match for the AB'S an Pumas
Sorry Argentina I think NZ will show up big time for this one, I think they'll see this as a final and it won't be a 1 point game either but last week all my predictions were wrong so I won't hold my breathe for this one.
Same thing was said after Ireland won the 2nd test against NZ.
I wonder if NZ playing so much in their own half ( welll done Argies) meant the forwards were a little risk averse (no penalties given away) meant they got dominated more and more as the gamme went on.
Theres no doubt NZ crumbled under pressure towards the end of the game but we are in rebulding phase now.
Pumas know the double is their new standard now - i'd give them a good chance they have the talent, skills and motivation - and btw the AB's should get rid of those nun-like shirt collars, what were they thinking?
If Argentina had only beaten the All Blacks once, i would view the 2nd test at Eden Park as a possible win in favour to the All Blacks. Now that these two have had losses & wins against each other, im viewing this matchup as a 51% to 49% in favour of an AB victory.
It's just not in the realm of possibility, not for anyone. That team would probably rather die on that field than loose this game.
"Los récords están para ser batidos"(Dicho argentino)😅
I just don't see the AB's losing twice at home to Argentina.
You probably didn’t see them losing once either though
@@OskarBosco-o2w but they wont lose twice and they didnt
France did it in 1994 in Eden Park, correct me if i'm wrong. A long time ago, quite the record for the ABs. I'm salivating in advance.
Jesus not through this video and I'm getting notified about another from the great man Tim!
Without a quality #10 and a sluggish #9 the abs chances are diminished . Razor a bit mystifying at present but early days
Methinks that's the big step up between test rugby and provincial, regional or club rugby.
If you coach the Crusaders, Toulouse or the Bulls, you play week in and week out. Lots of chances to try things and play around.
In test rugby, every game matters and you have one chance to get it right.
Argentina for the win or draw!
We have an awful jersey so yes, it's definitely on the line!!
As a South African, I enjoy the All Blacks losing way more than the Springboks winning.
BIGGEST ARGENTINIAN ADVANTAGE = THEY NOW BELIEVE THEY CAN BEAT NZ and THEY WANT TO !!!!!!!!!!!!
lighting doesn't strike twice
I'm actually an expert on lightning and you'd be surprised to know how many times can it strike in the exact same place
@lcor2009 Lighting doesn't strike twice😂😂😂
As a Kiwi & a devout ABs fan, i must say
that there were times in the past when I
hoped we would lose?!..i mean, one can
get tired of seeing their team win all the
time, I kno i did..So now it's good to see
the 'usually beaten' giving us a run. God,
it took some of them long enuf aye?!.
Gr8 to see those Irish have finally got the
hang of it..Rugby that is, not sobriety..heh heh..heh..Smashin your Pommy overlords,
I love it..You've also got to give it to those Pumas espc after what the Poms put them
through years ago at Falklands?! Now they
get to show their not all maradona's while
they kick & stomp those Union Jacks!
& what's all this kerfuffle about the record
at the 'Garden of Eden' comin to an end?
After last wks loss, lots of armchair experts have gone 'chicken little', cryin ' the
sky is fallin'..oh dear, how sad, nevermind.
I calm myself, remembering mother nature
has taught me that there's always sunshine
after rain, always?!.It's ok to expect th worst
but don't forget, you can hope for the best..
If you get my drift?!...Ok..I'm out...GDNZ
Im going to the game on sat. If ABs lose i embrace my coloured side and wear my Springboks jersey 🤣
Gross, worst fans ever
@@jormundgandr88 thats you
@champagnelord1195 sorry mate I back my team regardless
@@jormundgandr88 oh plsss
always look on the bright side!
All Blacks by 20. I'm a Bok supporter, but I would never write off an All Black side that are hurting and hungry.
Also, would be good for Boks if both NZ and Argies are won one, lost one 😎🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
ABs were hurting after 2nd test loss to Ireland, that didn't stop them from losing the 3rd test too.
@PB22559 true, but Arg and Ire at different levels
@@WyndhamPGP The Pumas lack consistency but on their day, they're as good as the top sides.
Blacklash incoming for Argentina. 40 odd to 10
I think Anton Lienert-Brown had to be dropped to the bench. He was rushing up to cut off the edge and Argentina pilled through the hole he left on a few occasions including leading up to the first Argentina try.
Vamos, Los Pumas!
As a bok fan I'm greatful we don't have to play the ABs this weekend.theres a storm brewing and the clouds are all black.
Tim regarding the combined teams please put the score out of 15 for the starters and also score outta 8 for the teams next to the names. Just more obvious. Tx. Albert 🤔
Next to the team names? ABs 8/15 starters and 4/8 bench...
As a long-suffering Bok supporter, we all know about an AB backlash! It's not a pretty sight and teams generally go into damage control!
I could be wrong but the ABs will gnashing their teeth for Saturday!
It would be incredible to see The Pumas win 2 on the trot against the ABs!
Suffering?? 😂 you've won 4 RWC and could easily field two starting International teams! Every team is jealous of this alone
Our RC record is abysmal compared to the All Blacks, that's what I was referring to.
On my feed this video is 7 mins since being posted- 166 views and ~10 comments. Impressive.
To your question - yes, it’s at risk. For me the balance of the backrow remains wrong, but hoping for a black lash….
Argentina are a genuine threat in this comp and no longer the easy beats. They are elite and should probably roll the wallabies twice. They have a real chance at history here.
To be honest this is the first AB team I've seen where it looks to be a bit of mix and match without any overall strategy. There's a few players that shouldn't be starting. Have a feeling Los Pumas are going to go better this weekend, yes calling an AB loss, though I will of course be supporting the Blackness.
Sure is. Robinson may as well say goodbye if they lose.
How do the AB’s get gainline dominance? They need couple of big body ball carriers!
I think that the Blacks will win, but the changes just don't address the problems. I am disappointed with this selection.
Key positions need to be kane starting, beaudon at first five and jordon at fullback. Use the best people in the most important positions and pick the team around them.
Totally in agreement🇿🇦
Yes. It is.
no they wont and didnt - your guess was wrong
Besides Razor being way out of his depth and a bunch of assistant coaches which Razor has beaten for 7 years, NZ rugby have been playing themselves in Super rugby with Australia having given up Rugby Union. NZ Rugby needs to be playing international teams, like South Africa, in the URC and the European championship. South African rugby is growing, NZ rugby is struggling. Pride might get them over the line, but if Argentina turn up, the AB's will be very lucky to get a win.
If NZ turn up they’ll win by 20+.
I don't really understand why people keep saying australia has given up on rugby union. South Africa have literally been in the same situation australia are I now in the past. Losses to Japan and Italy, and getting absolutely destroyed 50 to nill against new zealand. SA isn't exactly growing, its just that they've finally got a strong team. Australia will eventually.
Every team eventually goes through this phase. Wales are going through it right now too. They'll eventually find a way out of it
Glad to hear Razor paid off his debt.
@@AbeHopwood the difference with south africa is they never dropped to the lower half of the top 10, or out of the top 10. they also never had a drought of world class players, it just took awhile to get those pieces to fit together they way the fit together now. rugby was always the #1 sport over there. im a kiwi, still live in nz but ik a lot of aussies. none of them care about union, even the few kiwis living in aus i know dont care either. you have a country with 5x the number of people as nz but less registered rugby players, and your numbers are declining faster than ours. australia will rise again but i do not believe they will ever be comparable to the best in the world again with out massive change.
@@myusernameizgud1722
Agreed. Like Tim, I’m a Pommy bastard, but I noticed the same thing when I lived in Oz as a uni student. Rugby just doesn’t have the appeal there that the NRL and Aussie Rules both enjoy. I don’t think the game will die out, but it will always be a fairly marginal, élite pursuit. In New Zealand, the game is much more egalitarian, not being the preserve of public school boys.
Fear the All Blacks. That’s all I can say for now.
The AB’s unleash after a loss. They played poorly last week. The opposition is not Ireland….cant see a NZ loss
they would beat ireland as well
its going to be pouring with rain, dogged affair, expect dropped balls and nerves to set in ! NZ will scrape it
To close to call this one, a fired utp AB side and hopefully a pumas side that lifts themselves up again plus 10% for eden park fortress
Dear Tim: very very different teams from the SF. Argentina did not have Matera in that game. Matera in the current form is 50% of the pack, emotionally
Argentina have a better chance of winning the entire tournament than they do at beating the AB’s at Eden Park.
Con el triunfo del primer partido, Contepomi pudo desquitarse por lo que pasó en 2021 ,Felipe se equivoca y Robertson liquida el partido. Ahora hay un record que quebrar.Lo pueden ver en este video.Pero además los fan de ABs deberían aprender en este video como se apoya a tu equipo Look that crowd ! th-cam.com/video/qeKzHXALxcU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_ytGhtjzaJIBkABe
NZ has problems in the loose forward mix and at halfback. Also there’s inconsistency in selection . One minute ioane is out owing to performance then he’s back in again without showing form.
halfback position is not a problem at all. the inconsistency in selection is due to injury and giving others opportunity. we cant grow new talent if they dont play
Exactly mixed messages Razors in trouble
Gd to see Ozzie Tamaiti Williams getting a run 🦘
Born and breed on northland .
grew up in Perthfontein
by this logic Nathan Cleary is a Kiwi
@@Crimsonfate yeh nah.. cleary was in nz from 3-5, tamaiti was in Oz from 2 months -16 years 🤣
@@hanoitripper1809 "3-5" 😂😂
Elite rugby is al about attitude. they are all capable of winning. The AB's will have a completely different attitude this week. Argies will get the backlashn not because they have improved but because they are determined.
I just feel there is no difference in the thinking between this and what foster was doing 🤷
I agree. Still average on attack and box kicking too often
So the AB's don't just have to turn up at games now. Not a bad thing and it's great seeing lower tier teams on the rise. It's not just an NZ v SA anymore although the Boks are on a high. What is surprising me most is this reacting to a loss by swinging the axe, where's your overarching game-plan Razor? Playing game to game is not building towards a future.
Disagree on AB's back.Ar'nt combo's important at centres,Proctor &ALB better,Beaudy and Jordan could be electric.
I would love to see Arg do it again, but its still the All Blacks. Will be much harder for Arg. In reality will be better for the boks if ABs have a good win. Dont want to have an angry AB side come to SA....
I think the abs will win but I think it's gonna be close. I expect it to be less than a 7 point win
Feels to me D-Mac is the weak link for NZ, i could be wrong cause he's brilliant, just feels like he's not getting NZ on the Front foot enough.
They are in real danger and TJ out and Finau in and Cane would be starting
I expect a big backlash from the AB's. The Argies probably partied all week. The Argies seldom have 2 big games in a row.
Quizás esta vez se tomen el segundo partido en serio
What do you mean?
Realistically, the All Blacks are suffering from 3 key things.
No forward pack - our best forwards are average at best.
No self-belief - shown by our complete lack of composure and poor execution.
No chemistry - it looks like you have 15 people playing by themselves against one team of 15 playing for each other. A champion team will always beat a team of champions, and the All Blacks currently are that team of champions who dont know how to play together.
My 2 cence anyway, not that anyone gives a crap.
Not to mention assuming because it's a home game they are entitled to an automatic win, like in the past. It's great to see the kiwis struggle! I always say: an All Black loss is a win for World Rugby. The rugby world no longer revolves around the kiwis and its great to see other international teams lift, develop, and win!
@elscruffomcscruffy8371 that's a losers mentality for certain. It's pretty typical of people who struggle to see greatness because you're incapable of it yourself. You're not entitled to a win in anything in life, but the expectation for the All Blacks is to win every test, home and away.
no 42-10 sounds pretty safe to me
I hope Cane gets on early
Thanks to andrew mehrtens...
ABs are praying for scrums tomorrow😂😂😂
All mighty All Blacks is a distant memory. Lol
Our forwards are soft and have no grunt. the backline is a mess, players are out of form and confused by the avalanche of coaching "expertise", and D Mac's fly in a bottle style. We will likely eke a win but it has to by 20 points plus.
If they lose at Eden park then razor the worst coach NZ has had 😂😂 you can’t lose the streak,
no other team have got the same record as the abs have at eden park and that is not going to change anywhere soon
Think it’s probable ab s coaches don’t know what to do there ot up to it and there’s enough coaches to make another team
I think there’ll be a black lash.
Felipe
Contepome is doing great stuff so far with Argentina
One loss and the kiwis freak out
They win a good competitive seeries against England: still not happy
They will happily beat up Tier 2 nations and rack up big scores, then complain about the lack of competition: still not happy.
The rugby world isnt about the All Blacks. Accept the loss and move forward
There is zero chance pumas win this one. An angry, embarrassed All Black team will never lose this.
Never say never. The Argies made it look easy last week, not even a losing BP.
@@Tar-ZA-n Made it look easy? They would've lost if not for a forward pass from D Mac.
Argies should again target and take out captain Ardie, and presurise TJ no.9, like last week. Then do the same when Sam Cane comes on.
Do not allow Dmac to go on the run and be in Caleb Clarcke's face.
Blackadder...?
What i find hilarious is that kiwi fans moan and groan about the lack of competition and challenge from opponents, then teams, who were once easy beats, come along and beat the All Blacks, the same fans then have a whinge and cant handle losing! Even the close win over England wasnt good enough for some. They are never happy haha
Easy win for the abs here. Argentina just pulled one out. It happens. Theyve beaten the boks 3 times also.l They are effectively the new france. Abs to still win the rugby championship as always. Boks are only 2 wins and 1 loss this year and one of those wins is against Australia lolololol
Seems you need another humbling this weekend. Creevy did say they’re coming to Eden Park to win. Again. Would love it if they do.
@@Tar-ZA-n doubt it mate. Abs #1 by years end easy. Boks rolled like bitches in bed.
@@Tar-ZA-nand creevy is not playing this weekend.
How did SA come into this…insecurity being shown here by the Kiwi supporters?
Boks have played 3 times this year, twice against the only side on par with them at the moment.
Boks will take this championship as well as the Mandela cup.
Easy win, you’ve been beaten by Argentina 2 times in the past 3 years and both of them were away games for them…careful - it’s the 50th game a lot in on the line (could the pressure prove to much - I mean Razor has finally selected Cane).
@@mitch2924 lol the abs last beat Ireland. It was the boks that couldn't do that in the cup. You are 2 losses one win to them. Overstate your victory over Australia as much as you want its quite hilarious for a team ticking along at a 60% win rate
The All Blacks are going for blood and the Pumas are going for glory. But this weekends test will go to the All Blacks or Razor is going to get axed.
No Lavanini the red card specialist😮, sorry i see him strong team
you´re off at lesast by 6 or 7 years. Try to name the last time Lava was shown a red card.