I used one in CAS. You're really only going to fire about 10 rounds for any given stage....maybe a few more. But I never thought that the gun ever got that hot, firing BP rounds. And if it did, I just rested the rifle on top of my open palm, rather than grasping the fore end.
I was fortunate to pick one of these up on Gunbroker last week for a good price. The only problem I have encountered is the front sight was difficult for my 56 year old eyes to pick up. A little "Wite Out" on the sight solved that. Boy is it a beauty. Very nice rifles.
I remember seeing one of these with a brass water jacket and bipod, along with a 20+ round tube. It was meant for 'support' usage, and apparently someone's custom piece. Imagine using a bipod-mounted, water-cooled Henry. It'd be one smokey and steamy gun!
I sure like mine in 44-40 also. Like it so much I have a 73 on order now. I hope you have a few whitetails on that place of yours, you can put that Henry to good use next fall.......yum!
RogerRevo I agree, unfortunately the new land is in heavy forest. There is only one , small clearing on my land, and it isn't a suitable location for targets. I would have to take out quite a few mature trees to open it up enough to get direct light on the targets, and that isn't going to happen this year.
duelist1954 for killing weeds a mixture of 3 quarts of vinagar a handful of Epsom salts and some dawn dishwashing soap in that ratio make a great and cheap weed killer In Your case Mike You might be mixing it in 5 or 10 gallon batches
You don't have to cut trees down, just prune them to allow light on the targets. If the target area can't be seen, because of the shadows, why watch the videos? Watch the videos without logging onto TH-cam and see what I mean... Bill
That follower does look like a problem but I think you could make a "U" shaped wooden cover to slide over the magazine and with a hollow under it to let the follower pass by unharmed and keep your hand cool at the same time. Not exactly period correct but I bet no one would complain. Thanks for the video.
Super vid Mike. That said and and at least in my observation, the dark and busy foliage behind your target area makes it very difficult to see your hits when viewing your shots from behind you.. If there is a way for you to clear that brush
Hello Mike Your long lost cousin here. Tell us of your powder load. That surely is black under a two hundred grainer. Swiss? 2f, 3f or 1-1/2F? Thanks Bob
Mike, originals I believe do not have a half cock - does the uberti replicas have a half cock notch hammer or are they faithful to the design minus the rimfire chambering?
@@RabbitusMaximus Navy Arms made 1860 Henry RIFLES in New Jersey in 1976. Mine is serial number 358. They made 500 or so in 44/40 24" Rifle . And 1000 or so in 22" Carbine . After this they sold out to Uberti.
@@larryclark9380 yes, noted. gotcha (although I thought they didn't start until around 1985?) but your original remark just stated Navy -omitting the "Arms" which identified it as Val's co (vs a model designation). Still, like the .44-40 chambering of yours that half cock is a modern addition. Drawings of orginal 1860 rimfire rifles do not show a half cock safety notch.
Mike if you held the barrel in the indentations would that alleviate blocking the magazine follower?. For style however, doing this you would have to have your pinky finger out. :-) Far less of a problem though than the colt revolving rifle. I also thought I saw you holding the forward part of the receiver and not the barrel, could that have not been originally intended with the Henry at least? Also, are the actions of replicas as smooth as the originals? I have noticed that in the few replicas I have the actions are gritty yet originals, to me are much smoother, even ones in nice condition and not worn ones.
+hoodoo2001 The short answer is "No." It is theoretically possible, if you hold your thumb and fingers like a bib letter "O", but that would give you poor control over the gun. In practice you close your hand under the magazine tube to give the barrel more support. Most Henry shooters I know hold close to the receiver. It just seems like the most comfortable place to hold them. If you use a cheater stick, it is the only place to hold them to get any benefit out of the stick.
Excellent video. I am considering buying one of these and shooting black powder cartridges also in 44-40. Do you load 40 grains FFFG with 200 grain cast bullet? What diameter bullet do you use in your Uberti Henry Original? I'm also considering the Winchester 1873 in 44-40 , also to shoot black powder cartridges. Curious if you have one of the new Winchester 1873 rifles? And if you do, does it look as cool as the Henry shooting black powder cartridges? The Henry just looks right, and sounds right shooting black powder :)
Mike where did you buy the small chain held steel plate ? I was going to buy a 1860 Henry steel action , Buy because of the hot barrel I decided on a 1866 which I have now 45 colt . along with my 1876 .50/95 . Love your shows .
I agree, it shouldn't be that annoying, and isn't. I just don't like the idea of someone just taking music from a free source, where many people, even myself, have heard it elsewhere.
Hi Mike just found out No one has a iron frame in stock .What are your thought on the brass frame in 44-40 will they streach ( with black powder loads)
You need to view your new videos at your duelists Den, The shadows make it so that your targets and your shots can't be seen by the viewers. You have to lighten up your targets because the shadows keep your targets from being seen. Your videos are very interesting, and I like to see that targets and the bullet impacts. Bill
See if you can get your hands on some scrap conveyor belt rubber to use as a strap instead of chains. They are far more durable than the chain and can take many hits before ever coming close to failing.
BigBossManBBQ If I shot BP through my 1866 (which I don't) I would strip it down and clean it thoroughly. BP is so corrosive, I wouldn't take chances of leaving even a speck. Dismantling and reassembling a Henry/Winchester is not fun. It's fiddly. That's my opinion. I wonder what Maestro Mike would say.
$1200 is a lot of money especially for an Italian repro although I'd love one I couldn't ever afford one unless it's used which people don't sell the guns I want of course
+John Harrington These are very, very well made guns with lots of extra fitting and finish. If it were made in America, it would cost far more... actually, Henry Repeating Arms makes an 1860 Henry now and it's far more expensive than the Uberti, and from what I hear it's not much better.
It really isn't. A lot goes into making an 1860. The feed tube and Barrell are one piece, the brass receiver is one piece and complex to mill out. Worth every penny
Demon 666 .429", 200 grain bullet cast from a Mav Dutchman mold over 35 grains of 2Fg Goex Black Powder, lit off with a Federal Magnum Large Pistol primer
Burying the worst bucking Gun Company there is I had a gun that every turn it three times to the manufacturer to fix one spring that spring broke three times the worst piece of shit gun in the world
who blew that fairy dust up your back end about setting rounds off in the loading tube?post one documented case of that happening. back in the day when primers were a new thing; there were even premature firings in a trapdoor firearm when the rifle was converted from the 58 caliber black powder to a centerfire cartridge. why do lever gun manufacturers not include a warning in the owners manual on care of loading the tube to protect from lawsuits? i believe there was a test years ago when a guy loaded a tube and then commenced to beat the last round with a ball pean hammer and finally set a primer off when the bullet was forced into the case and had no place to go. if you just feel the spring tension in a tube; it is nothing; so site one case to back up your insane comment.
My Henry is probably my favorite rifle out of them all.
It's not the one I shoot most often.
But it's the one I drool over the most .
What are they like to clean and maintain ? thinking of getting one
I used one in CAS. You're really only going to fire about 10 rounds for any given stage....maybe a few more. But I never thought that the gun ever got that hot, firing BP rounds. And if it did, I just rested the rifle on top of my open palm, rather than grasping the fore end.
I was fortunate to pick one of these up on Gunbroker last week for a good price. The only problem I have encountered is the front sight was difficult for my 56 year old eyes to pick up. A little "Wite Out" on the sight solved that. Boy is it a beauty. Very nice rifles.
I'm so jealous of your private range.....Not to mention you get to play with all the best toys! Great video. Keep 'em comin'!
Great review - thanks for taking us shooting with you.
I remember seeing one of these with a brass water jacket and bipod, along with a 20+ round tube. It was meant for 'support' usage, and apparently someone's custom piece. Imagine using a bipod-mounted, water-cooled Henry. It'd be one smokey and steamy gun!
I sure like mine in 44-40 also. Like it so much I have a 73 on order now. I hope you have a few whitetails on that place of yours, you can put that Henry to good use next fall.......yum!
I just ordered one in iron frame 44-40 . been wanting one for 30 yrs !
That's some pretty good offhand shootin' there, Mike!
Having the targets in sunshine would make them easier to see.
RogerRevo I agree, unfortunately the new land is in heavy forest. There is only one , small clearing on my land, and it isn't a suitable location for targets. I would have to take out quite a few mature trees to open it up enough to get direct light on the targets, and that isn't going to happen this year.
duelist1954 for killing weeds a mixture of 3 quarts of vinagar a handful of Epsom salts and some dawn dishwashing soap in that ratio make a great and cheap weed killer
In Your case Mike You might be mixing it in 5 or 10 gallon batches
You don't have to cut trees down, just prune them to allow light on the targets.
If the target area can't be seen, because of the shadows, why watch the videos?
Watch the videos without logging onto TH-cam and see what I mean...
Bill
Beautiful rifle for sure. I must admit I enjoy my lever rifle as much as any. Have a safe and fun Independence Day weekend
Buddy of mine has one- it's one of his favorites
Thanks Mike .
Nothing like the smell of burnt black powder in the morning. Love the rifle nothing better then enjoying the beauty of an 1860.
That follower does look like a problem but I think you could make a "U" shaped wooden cover to slide over the magazine and with a hollow under it to let the follower pass by unharmed and keep your hand cool at the same time. Not exactly period correct but I bet no one would complain. Thanks for the video.
Super vid Mike. That said and and at least in my observation, the dark and busy foliage behind your target area makes it very difficult to see your hits when viewing your shots from behind you.. If there is a way for you to clear that brush
Beautiful rifle.
Hello Mike
Your long lost cousin here. Tell us of your powder load. That surely is black under a two hundred grainer. Swiss? 2f, 3f or 1-1/2F?
Thanks
Bob
Nice Rifle
Do you think the1 in 21 twist of the Henry will be any real world difference to the1/38 twist of the 73? Both Uberti models.
God that looks fun!
Mike, originals I believe do not have a half cock - does the uberti replicas have a half cock notch hammer or are they faithful to the design minus the rimfire chambering?
My 1860 Navy has a half-cock.
@@larryclark9380 we are talking about 1860 Henry RIFLES ....not your 1860 Navy replica revolver. :)
@@RabbitusMaximus
Navy Arms made almost 2000 1860 RIFLES in New Jersey in 1976 before selling it to uberti.
I have serial number 358 in 44-40.
@@RabbitusMaximus
Navy Arms made 1860 Henry RIFLES in New Jersey in 1976. Mine is serial number 358.
They made 500 or so in 44/40 24" Rifle .
And 1000 or so in 22" Carbine .
After this they sold out to Uberti.
@@larryclark9380 yes, noted. gotcha (although I thought they didn't start until around 1985?) but your original remark just stated Navy -omitting the "Arms" which identified it as Val's co (vs a model designation). Still, like the .44-40 chambering of yours that half cock is a modern addition. Drawings of orginal 1860 rimfire rifles do not show a half cock safety notch.
Mike if you held the barrel in the indentations would that alleviate blocking the magazine follower?. For style however, doing this you would have to have your pinky finger out. :-) Far less of a problem though than the colt revolving rifle. I also thought I saw you holding the forward part of the receiver and not the barrel, could that have not been originally intended with the Henry at least?
Also, are the actions of replicas as smooth as the originals? I have noticed that in the few replicas I have the actions are gritty yet originals, to me are much smoother, even ones in nice condition and not worn ones.
+hoodoo2001 The short answer is "No." It is theoretically possible, if you hold your thumb and fingers like a bib letter "O", but that would give you poor control over the gun. In practice you close your hand under the magazine tube to give the barrel more support. Most Henry shooters I know hold close to the receiver. It just seems like the most comfortable place to hold them. If you use a cheater stick, it is the only place to hold them to get any benefit out of the stick.
Excellent video. I am considering buying one of these and shooting black powder cartridges also in 44-40. Do you load 40 grains FFFG with 200 grain cast bullet? What diameter bullet do you use in your Uberti Henry Original? I'm also considering the Winchester 1873 in 44-40 , also to shoot black powder cartridges. Curious if you have one of the new Winchester 1873 rifles? And if you do, does it look as cool as the Henry shooting black powder cartridges? The Henry just looks right, and sounds right shooting black powder :)
.430 bullet and 35 grains of 3Fg
Mike where did you buy the small chain held steel plate ? I was going to buy a 1860 Henry steel action , Buy because of the hot barrel I decided on a 1866 which I have now 45 colt . along with my 1876 .50/95 . Love your shows .
poncho concho search Gong Swing Target on amazon
Got me one of these on order! Gonna have some old fashioned shooting fun in .45 Long Colt! Oh heah!
Thanks
Love that ammo
Great video. I was wondering if the accuracy diminishes as you shoot more and more black powder rounds through the rifle.
That will depend on the bullet lube used but in general accuracy decreases the more you shoot with black powder
I noticed on your shots from the front that there looked to be a lot of burning powder flying out. Is that normal for black powder loads?
Yes.
Hey mike, do you have a model 95 win? If so, I would love to see a vid on it.
between the Uberti and Henry repeating arms 1860 what would be your opinion on comparing both replicas?
Chris Arnold I've not shot the Henry made gun, so I can't say.
The stock music is annoying.
Nice that you are doing a longer review on the Henry rifle, I wanted one for a long time.
Diktator Alexander 12 second of music on each end of a video that is 1,167 seconds long...how annoying can that be? Besides, I like it.
I agree, it shouldn't be that annoying, and isn't. I just don't like the idea of someone just taking music from a free source, where many people, even myself, have heard it elsewhere.
Diktator Alexander So you would prefer that I pay for an original composition...at about 100 the cost of what I'll make in a lifetime from this video?
Just, find a friend or someone who could do it for free. I would make you music if I knew how.
duelist1954 Hi there Mike, I like the music as I'm sure nearly everyone does. It's appropriate and gives a professional touch.
Hi Mike just found out No one has a iron frame in stock .What are your thought on the brass frame in 44-40 will they streach ( with black powder loads)
+Steve WW1 they won't stretch with either b-p or smokeless
thanks Mike. will be getting a brass frame then .
You need to view your new videos at your duelists Den, The shadows make it so that your targets and your shots can't be seen by the viewers. You have to lighten up your targets because the shadows keep your targets from being seen.
Your videos are very interesting, and I like to see that targets and the bullet impacts.
Bill
See if you can get your hands on some scrap conveyor belt rubber to use as a strap instead of chains. They are far more durable than the chain and can take many hits before ever coming close to failing.
Had one in 4440 sold it and will be looking at one for sale Sunday 45lc. Looks like your shooting black powder loads.
Lovely looking rifle :)
I do wonder how those brass frames hold up over time
Extremely well. it's a thick chunk of metal, brass or not.
How Hard is it to Clean that Henry Shooting Black Powder?.
BigBossManBBQ If I shot BP through my 1866 (which I don't) I would strip it down and clean it thoroughly. BP is so corrosive, I wouldn't take chances of leaving even a speck. Dismantling and reassembling a Henry/Winchester is not fun. It's fiddly. That's my opinion. I wonder what Maestro Mike would say.
Adrian Larkins I'll have some videos up on it next week...fiddley about sums it up.
duelist1954 I look forward to seeing the video.
Nice
$1200 is a lot of money especially for an Italian repro although I'd love one I couldn't ever afford one unless it's used which people don't sell the guns I want of course
+John Harrington These are very, very well made guns with lots of extra fitting and finish. If it were made in America, it would cost far more... actually, Henry Repeating Arms makes an 1860 Henry now and it's far more expensive than the Uberti, and from what I hear it's not much better.
It really isn't. A lot goes into making an 1860. The feed tube and Barrell are one piece, the brass receiver is one piece and complex to mill out. Worth every penny
Shouldve named it the volcanic rifle. Its spewing out lava lol.
Still have your commemorative model mike?
Gray Ghost That was a borrowed gun. Belongs to my buddy, Roughshod.
You think you could give us a reloading video for this cartridge if not load data here in the comments
Demon 666 .429", 200 grain bullet cast from a Mav Dutchman mold over 35 grains of 2Fg Goex Black Powder, lit off with a Federal Magnum Large Pistol primer
Thanks to FG seems like a weird grain for the gun what did it crony at a d would 3fg be better?
Demon 666 I have found that in cases like .44-40 and .45 Colt, that 2Fg gives more consistant results
Would this be only used for rifle cause of the long tube? Is this pistol ammo to?
I need to find black powder load data for my modern (made in Japan) 1873 Win in .357/.38. Or not ... what a mess!!!!!
I know I fired ten, where the hell did that tenth piece of brass go!!!!...;)
The biggest problem I've had with the Henry is balance. It is very front heavy.
the original held 16 not 14,,,,,,,,,,,,,the barrels do not swing either, the tubes do,,,,,,,,,,
Burying the worst bucking Gun Company there is I had a gun that every turn it three times to the manufacturer to fix one spring that spring broke three times the worst piece of shit gun in the world
who blew that fairy dust up your back end about setting rounds off in the loading tube?post one documented case of that happening. back in the day when primers were a new thing; there were even premature firings in a trapdoor firearm when the rifle was converted from the 58 caliber black powder to a centerfire cartridge. why do lever gun manufacturers not include a warning in the owners manual on care of loading the tube to protect from lawsuits? i believe there was a test years ago when a guy loaded a tube and then commenced to beat the last round with a ball pean hammer and finally set a primer off when the bullet was forced into the case and had no place to go. if you just feel the spring tension in a tube; it is nothing; so site one case to back up your insane comment.