He gave unauthorized lethal injections robbing them of their final moments with their families. It's simply illegal even if you don't see a problem with it.
@@chrisk6668 I agree even he did this in a compassion moment he should have told the family or asked what they wanted. It’s not his choice to make how low the dosis was. According the law it is murder and our doctors here would stand trail for that. Altho we are trying to change the law it’s still the family that makes that decision.
This case is interesting. As a dr myself, I wonder first what was going on with the patient that prompted the staff to think that extubation (taking the patient off the ventilator by removing the endotracheal tube) was appropriate. I ask that because most likely the ventilator was keeping them alive and the act of removing it would end their life. The family obviously consented to that procedure. So it probably didn’t matter what dose of Fentanyl was given. The patient was dying anyway and with that drug (which suppresses respirations) any choking or gasping for air would be averted.
Although I don’t know the full facts of the case, I agree with what you’re saying. I’m questioning how that dosage of fentanyl was dispensed numerous times by pharmacists and never questioned? Odd. I could see this happening with one or two people, but 23 +people within a relatively short timespan?? Because even if pharmacist did approve it and dispense it and nurse gave it, after the first death or two you mean to tell me that none of those people spoke out?? It seems like this is a more so a case of grieving family members that are still dealing with The loss of their loved ones and are looking for someone to blame. No honest human being would let a bone cancer patient suffocate to death.
@@djtanner4472 The point is that euthanasia is not legal, and that's what they were doing is essentially that, ending the suffering. 2000 micrograms of fentanyl is lethal within 2-3 minutes.
@@isabelrosas4454 I understand, however there is a major part of me as a human being that doesn’t feel like I could ever allow a person to suffocate to death slowly
@@isabelrosas4454 Doctor assisted euthaniasia is illegal in Ohio. Mount Carmel has been in trouble numerous times for giving out too many pain medicine's Back in the early 2000s they were in trouble for handing out Vicodin like candy to patients. They have been used and fine many times and have be accused of starting the opiate addictions in Ohio. They have also lost their medicaid license numerous times for giving out too much medication and killing people.
So, the patients were in such bad shape there families were visiting and making decisions about being taken off life support. But too much pain meds is a bad thing? Odd but everyone I talk to says they never want to be in pain and suffer.
I’ve been keeping up with this trial and as a RN, I’m appalled that these prosecutors are going after all the medical staff involved! This doctor is NOT GUILTY ‼️I pray the jury isn’t fooled by the judges lack of discipline , displaying that he’s PRO PROSECUTION ‼️
He gave lethal doses to patients, robbing them and their families of their final moments together. This may not seem like a big deal to you but it is to many people. Hopefully this trial will make people in the medical field realize that. Even if you're ok with it it is still illegal.
What department are you working? have you cared for critically ill patients removed from a ventilator nor a DNR CC? If you knew how much medicine is usualll given for comfort, you'd realize he is very guilty
When there's no more joy in Mudville, and you are dying miserably, I would like a doctor like this to help me on my journey. I would hope my family would not try to make money afterwards.
Amen brother! The world is full evil and greedy bastards I hope when these people come to face death they have no comfort care and are left to feel every pain imaginable! Husel is a great doctor who helped them in there last days of suffering!
@@karincampbell9289 are you a doctor? And also do you know about or have heard that the body becomes use to certain amounts of drugs like (fentanyl) and you become more and more resistant to the drug! You people should be carefull the way you put out false info! This is how innocent people go to jail! Educate yourself before you say anything please!
@@markwhite6719 Well, for your information, I know that these very sick patients most likely had multi system organ failure. Meaning, their hearts, brains, kidneys, livers were all shutting down. These medications need to be metabolized in the liver, excreted by the kidneys, and in less than functioning livers and kidneys, they would only need a small portion to work. A concept his doctor was aware of, as well as the other educated staff. People with impaired liver and kidney function require a fraction of the normal amount of medication. So your theory doesn't hold water! And the brain , doesn't perceive pain like normal, hypo profusion, ( lack of blood flow) makes the brain not feel as much as a healthy brain. So, your theory may work for a uneducated person, but not for me. They didn't need that much medicine because their bodies were shutting down. All information medical people know.Jury members, not so much. So you people who think he may be found not guilty might be in luck. And don't tell me what is factual. I am educated with plenty of years of experience. And you? Well, your lack of education on this subject is pitiful. And no I'm not a doctor. I'm a nurse with 44 years critical care experience. I've probably been nursing longer than Husel's been alive. I can speak from years of experience. What's your medical background that you feel like you can post some uneducated BS?
Its not a scandal. This is why nobody watches the news. Jamie your my hero. I had 3 family members die of pernious cancer. Husel is a hero. Thank you leagle team.
I have been one of these patients so sick in ICU not expected to recover from septic shock. I also had covid where I was suffocating to death. I was begging for anything to take this feeling away I could not bare the pain anymore and if I was going to go out I don't want pain please don't let me suffer.
@@kkdoc7864 thank you so much. If I lay out the series of events it honestly sound like a lie. I am honestly torn with this case. I don’t like pain and I don’t want to suffer. I just left lost and then to see how or what changes come from the verdict. It’s going to effect so many people across the country either we are suffering or we are gov n a overdose shoot I’m glad I’m not a juror.
@@chrisk6668 you know what is sad is , I happened to fall so sick during the beginning of the pandemic. Our Doctors offices were closed. I had no choice but to keep going into our Emergency Room. I kept telling them my symptoms over and over and they thought I was going in for narcotics. One Dr a lady told me …”we treat heart attack patients, stroke patients, you are just abusing our emergency department for drugs and your life isn’t worth my time!” I lost all hope at that moment. None of those doctors would even step back to see why I was going in. I had mot been to the any doctor for years . I was slowly wasting away and my daughter finally took me four hours away and I was admitted and hospitalized for over a month. My recovery has been long and hard to the point I almost gave up a few times. I don’t know I’m in therapy over it because now I’m afraid of everything. Our medical system is screwed up and I don’t know what’s going to happen now.
@@chrisk6668 what are you talking about? Consent was obtained on all these dying patients to remove life support. The removal of life support is what finished them off.
Anybody working in healthcare knows you have to be prepared for malpractice suits. Even nursing students require malpractice insurance. Be ready to have every move sued over.
I hate that all these respected medical professionals have to defend themselves over a process most people don’t understand. This was a problem with the policy, not the staff trying to do their best to care for these suffering patients.
As an RN and manage a Hospice unit These patients need these meds! 5 mcg! Come on! Families freak out over morphine 5mg S/L when the patient is in pain. Short of breath. Terminal restlessness! If I’m dying. Can’t breathe. In pain. Give me what I need!! Watching patients suffer is unbearable!! Give them what they need to be comfortable and pass comfortably! Why is this reporter wearing a mask!!🤦♀️
Hi. Thank you for giving them Fetanyl. I’m a recovering addict (6 years) who’s OD’d and it’s always a very pleasant experience; as in I felt really good then don’t remember anything besides waking up. Anyways, I’m glad they were able to feel nice and relaxed before departure. ❤
wake the fuck up people. This is what happens these doctors and nurses are angels that have the balls to act to help. If you never been through this you dont know.
Robbing people of their final moments with their loved ones is illegal whether you think it's OK is irrelevant. If you don't understand how important those moments are to a large portion of the population then you don't know. A doctor simply cannot decide on his own to euthanize people just because they think it's the best thing to do. It is illegal as can be to euthanize patients and even if it was legal informed consent laws would not allow a doctor to make his own determination without consent from their families.
@@chrisk6668 This doctor thought he was helping. There was no malicious intent. Your speaking to a 49 yr old man who has lots his entire family in just this way. Both Mother and Father and all grandparents. They all died this way. Some took weeks or months of absolute torture from Cancer. I stood beside and watched it all. The Nurses and Doctors and all the people that work in Hospice are a special type of person. Angels who watch over and comfort us and our loved ones.
Well when the hospital isn’t making the money for intensive care of coarse they are gonna want him out of there. The amounts they bill for those patients is incredible. Patients aren’t itemizing those bills. They can bill anything and everything.
When a patient is on hospice the priority is comfort. Morphine is given in the same way. My own 90 year old mother with metastasized cancer was given Morphine because ventilation was not supplying oxygen to her dying lungs. The Morphine relaxed her. These families had to be aware of these actions unless of course they were restricted from the hospital due to covid. If the families were restricted that is the states that is at fault. Due to covid the state gave decision options to the hospital not giving the family the option to ask for more medical assistance for the patients. What were the family's care expectations of care?
This is a red flag issue. Three drugs are monitored due to drug addicted employees. These are naive and incompetent employees who are following his orders. Not to mention that they are all clueless about the basic laws surrounding approximate dosage.i definitely think husel went there because could get away with it
This was 2018 and the patients were not expected to get better. They were critical and the family’s wanted their loved ones removed from the ventilator. The hospital were going to lose their Medicare and Medicaid funding because they weren’t keeping tracked of the meds. They called these families up and told them the Dr OD’d them was the real reason they died. They did this to protect themselves. The pharmacist just said he thought they were stealing the drugs.
What is lethal is to remove a dying patient off of life support with the families permission. Once that is established a higher dose is required when patients have been on the meds all along.
The stupidity of wearing masks outside in the fresh air almost equals the stupidity of trying to prevent suffering dying patients from accessing medication As an retired RN of 45 years experience people have no idea whatsoever of how many people die unnecessarily suffering due to the ignorant ‘do-good-ers’ in society. Infuriating also are these greedy cruel relatives who obviously have got away with millions $$$ ! I hope they don’t get a Dr as compassionate as this Dr when they’re dying
A quick search because I understand mg better, the lethal dose is 2mg or 2000mcg, accordingly most patients did not receive a lethal dose but were very comfortable when passing.
Was the Palliative Care Team consulted with patients and family, or did this physician alone with staff nurses, make these decisions without their knowledge and consent?
It is common to start having conversations with families early on in the patient's stay when they are critically I'll. Patients on ventilators, needing medication for blood pressure support, needing higher doses every day, tells a picture that these patients are not responding to treatment, and most of the time, doctors have conversations with families, explaining that patients are becoming sicker, and that families need to discuss and think about withdrawing care if recovery looks fatal. So, hopefully, families were kept informed of the patients condition, and that end of life with comfort care would be a viable option to alleviate suffering, and dying on tubes. It is quite rare to hear a family member insist on prolonging treatment if doctors feel the patient is not going to survive with any quality of life. Also, when you are a patient in the ICU, you often have several specialists on your case, kidney, cardiac, neurologists, also involved in helping with these decisions for removing life support. Ongoing treatment if
No maxium dose when a patient ventilator being removed. Translation you don't give it, the lungs can't take it. If they survived, lungs still weak. Or they died. They help em breathe.
Oh I hope these nurses get called as witnesses.. pharmacy knew the overrides were high they should’ve and could’ve stepped in long before they did, if they were concerned !!! I’m not convinced of the doctors guilt until it’s proven !!!
Override - there you go doc, malpractice, you won, not your orders, they assisted in death, and when they took em off the ventilator the fentnyal cause respiratory issues. Passing out etc. With that override , you got the suponea and probable cause to procuste the Utah study-.
Nurses should know better than allow a health care professional to give this large dose and call this comfort care. Lying to save their ass! We know a portion of these doses is all that is necessary to provide comfort care. Been a nurse for 43 years and I hung an infusion of pain medicine at 100 mcg/ hour, 2 mg IV push of Versed , may have repeated as needed, usually repeated every 30-60 minutes. And overriding means you violated your policy. You knew you couldn't withdraw that much. I never gave that much, I would have felt like I was doing lethal injection. Not necessary to give this much, comfort is different than unconscious. These doses killed patients. Sad you all didn't stand up for what is right
@@IzzyMariel I've been a nurse for over 43 years, most of my time in ICU. People give clues about pain when they can't verbalize their discomfort, increased heart rate, increased respiratory rate, facial expressions, increased blood pressure. We cannot always know what someone is feeling, but worth experience with hundreds of comfort care patients, you learn what a paint in pain looks like, vs a patient that is comfortable. I am not saying it is a clear cut science, but a lot of an art. If we can help pain after surgery with much lower doses of narcotics, then I can bet lower doses can help discomfort after removing life support. They must feel relief after the very uncomfortable breathing tube is removed, and narcotics and sedation in much smaller doses should help any discomfort they feel. Everyone is different, but again, if a small dose of narcotic, ( namely Fentanyl) after a major surgery helps relieve pain, one can assume a smaller dose will provide comfort in end of life situations. What people don't realize is if someone looks uncomfortable, we are able to increase the dose, and frequency, a little more a little more often. This isn't an all or nothing situation, it's a "follow the orders, give enough pain medication to patients while you assess for signs of relief." We as nurses always have the option of choosing a different medication adding medication and giving enough to get the desired effect. This isn't about not providing good pain relief, but about a doctor who was not honest to families about what his plan were for comfort care. I've been a part of comfort care for years, and never gave doses he prescribed, because it is unethical, and illegal. We don't give other medicines this way. It's not acceptable to give extra medication because we think it would benefit them. Our nursing care is regulated closely, and we follow doctors orders and can question them if it does not seem right. They all went out of the scope of their practice, and patient safety suffers when we do that. Someday, euthanasia may be legal, and then, and only then, will this kind of practice be acceptable.
@@karincampbell9289 exactly. you are never ahead of the pain, so your patients suffer. I could not live with myself if I knew I was torturing people who have no chance of living.
@@IzzyMariel I have complete peace about my comfort care techniques, and know if they are uncomfortable, I give more. But give according to my orders, and don't go outside my scope of practice. There isn't one time where I felt like my patients suffered.
@@karincampbell9289 I understand what you have to tell yourself so you can have peace. However, the fact is that the way you practice there is no way you can stay ahead of their pain.
Dying patients, comfort care, get sedtive-, not medication that induces it. When you go hollastic and DNR you spasm and stop breathing, it pretty gruesome, so maybe we need a tick tock moment backed with utube video.
Ya think, I've seen two instances, one a duahter of of nurse had premature baby breathing issues. And another nurse baby has big head and looks underdeveloped. The overflow ends up on the street. Accudose error. There you go Jimmy Buffett 5:00 somewere. They must have a sour taste as I observe one make a fruity drink orange juice, 7 up, and cranberry, and the other bring they big gulps to work every day. We just saw the kids at the Davie military dance.
People are wild in these comments, the job of the doctor is to find a cure, not to speed of the death that was already happening, the point of life is to actual living not try to get to death fast as possible
Karin Campbell. I agree with you. Sadly the nurses had poor training and experience it sounds like and Dr not to bright either!! Overriding narcotics. Wonder how much they kept for themselves. Bad practice!! Night nurses usually new grads w no experience or weirdos who can’t get along w people. Just saying also a nurse 36 years!
Lol. Oh, so if you give the patient a standard dose and it's clearly not doing much you can't give any more, because, ummmm, let them just suffer instead while dieing.
Then why didn't you as the programmer and boss of pharmacy change the code, easy way to do this for your level 1 substance, is you bring them, and no more no less , for patient script, nope guilty.
@WSAMCS this was my same sentiment-"SHOCKED, & ALARMED"; but also Afraid for Mom's Safety-Life. I suffered repeatedly Contemporary Observation Iatrogenic's Injuries, Complex PTSD and excruciating Emotional Terror/Duress Corporate Malfeasance manipuated Malpractices❗❓❗However, when it came to Fentynal I was not informed about Risk, Unauthorized Lethal amount. After Mom was discharged from Select Specialty Hospital and seen for follow up appointmen, no Provider question me why Mom was on Fentynal nor what it was; nor the Risk. All I knew, on the forth day, she had to get that patch replaced. I was not made informed of side effects, risk, nor dependency, nor Death-Murded. Her Providers did even care to inform me about withdrawals signs and symptoms of Fentanyl. I was cruelty left in the dark, confused, Gaslighted, traumatized, and fearful for Mom's Iatrogenic induced Malfeasance Death-Murded. As far as being their Iatrogenic Scapegoat, on the most part, I kept putting that in the back of my mind. All I could control was to act in Good Faith, be intune to the God-Holy Spirit and Mom, obey them, and pray.
Not a single person is ever given proper informed consent especially with injectables. lessons learned long ago. Medical profession has no respect from me, I find them as ignorant as I once was myself.
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He is a innocent man that prevented people from suffering during there last days! How dare the government charge this man!
He gave unauthorized lethal injections robbing them of their final moments with their families. It's simply illegal even if you don't see a problem with it.
@@chrisk6668 it's people like you that cause unneccessary problems!
@@chrisk6668 I agree even he did this in a compassion moment he should have told the family or asked what they wanted. It’s not his choice to make how low the dosis was. According the law it is murder and our doctors here would stand trail for that. Altho we are trying to change the law it’s still the family that makes that decision.
@@justbystander770 fuck u he did and he won
@@chrisk6668 fuck u he won
This case is interesting. As a dr myself, I wonder first what was going on with the patient that prompted the staff to think that extubation (taking the patient off the ventilator by removing the endotracheal tube) was appropriate. I ask that because most likely the ventilator was keeping them alive and the act of removing it would end their life. The family obviously consented to that procedure. So it probably didn’t matter what dose of Fentanyl was given. The patient was dying anyway and with that drug (which suppresses respirations) any choking or gasping for air would be averted.
Although I don’t know the full facts of the case, I agree with what you’re saying. I’m questioning how that dosage of fentanyl was dispensed numerous times by pharmacists and never questioned? Odd. I could see this happening with one or two people, but 23 +people within a relatively short timespan?? Because even if pharmacist did approve it and dispense it and nurse gave it, after the first death or two you mean to tell me that none of those people spoke out?? It seems like this is a more so a case of grieving family members that are still dealing with The loss of their loved ones and are looking for someone to blame. No honest human being would let a bone cancer patient suffocate to death.
@@djtanner4472 The point is that euthanasia is not legal, and that's what they were doing is essentially that, ending the suffering. 2000 micrograms of fentanyl is lethal within 2-3 minutes.
@@isabelrosas4454 I understand, however there is a major part of me as a human being that doesn’t feel like I could ever allow a person to suffocate to death slowly
@@isabelrosas4454 I mean look at hospice… Look at all the patients that get put on morphine drips
@@isabelrosas4454 Doctor assisted euthaniasia is illegal in Ohio. Mount Carmel has been in trouble numerous times for giving out too many pain medicine's Back in the early 2000s they were in trouble for handing out Vicodin like candy to patients. They have been used and fine many times and have be accused of starting the opiate addictions in Ohio. They have also lost their medicaid license numerous times for giving out too much medication and killing people.
Today he was acquitted on all 14 counts. God Bless Dr.Husel
So, the patients were in such bad shape there families were visiting and making decisions about being taken off life support. But too much pain meds is a bad thing? Odd but everyone I talk to says they never want to be in pain and suffer.
Not too much, an overdose amount. Very different
@@karincampbell9289
Not the amounts these patients were used to. Some had ongoing scripts for large amounts of narcotics.
I love these nurses. They stood up for truth!
But they lost their license? Idiots. Now they can’t for any patients and lost their livelihood.
I’ve been keeping up with this trial and as a RN, I’m appalled that these prosecutors are going after all the medical staff involved! This doctor is NOT GUILTY ‼️I pray the jury isn’t fooled by the judges lack of discipline , displaying that he’s PRO PROSECUTION ‼️
He gave lethal doses to patients, robbing them and their families of their final moments together. This may not seem like a big deal to you but it is to many people. Hopefully this trial will make people in the medical field realize that. Even if you're ok with it it is still illegal.
What department are you working? have you cared for critically ill patients removed from a ventilator nor a DNR CC? If you knew how much medicine is usualll given for comfort, you'd realize he is very guilty
When there's no more joy in Mudville, and you are dying miserably, I would like a doctor like this to help me on my journey. I would hope my family would not try to make money afterwards.
Amen brother! The world is full evil and greedy bastards I hope when these people come to face death they have no comfort care and are left to feel every pain imaginable! Husel is a great doctor who helped them in there last days of suffering!
put it in your Advanced Care Directive so that your wishes are respected
You can get pain relief without overdosing amounts!
@@karincampbell9289 are you a doctor? And also do you know about or have heard that the body becomes use to certain amounts of drugs like (fentanyl) and you become more and more resistant to the drug! You people should be carefull the way you put out false info! This is how innocent people go to jail! Educate yourself before you say anything please!
@@markwhite6719 Well, for your information, I know that these very sick patients most likely had multi system organ failure. Meaning, their hearts, brains, kidneys, livers were all shutting down. These medications need to be metabolized in the liver, excreted by the kidneys, and in less than functioning livers and kidneys, they would only need a small portion to work. A concept his doctor was aware of, as well as the other educated staff. People with impaired liver and kidney function require a fraction of the normal amount of medication. So your theory doesn't hold water! And the brain , doesn't perceive pain like normal, hypo profusion, ( lack of blood flow) makes the brain not feel as much as a healthy brain. So, your theory may work for a uneducated person, but not for me.
They didn't need that much medicine because their bodies were shutting down. All information medical people know.Jury members, not so much. So you people who think he may be found not guilty might be in luck.
And don't tell me what is factual. I am educated with plenty of years of experience. And you? Well, your lack of education on this subject is pitiful. And no I'm not a doctor. I'm a nurse with 44 years critical care experience. I've probably been nursing longer than Husel's been alive. I can speak from years of experience. What's your medical background that you feel like you can post some uneducated BS?
Its not a scandal. This is why nobody watches the news. Jamie your my hero. I had 3 family members die of pernious cancer. Husel is a hero. Thank you leagle team.
??? pernious???
I have been one of these patients so sick in ICU not expected to recover from septic shock. I also had covid where I was suffocating to death. I was begging for anything to take this feeling away I could not bare the pain anymore and if I was going to go out I don't want pain please don't let me suffer.
Wow, I am so glad you recovered and so sorry you went thru what you did!
@@kkdoc7864 thank you so much. If I lay out the series of events it honestly sound like a lie. I am honestly torn with this case. I don’t like pain and I don’t want to suffer. I just left lost and then to see how or what changes come from the verdict. It’s going to effect so many people across the country either we are suffering or we are gov n a overdose shoot I’m glad I’m not a juror.
Good thing there are laws in place that didn't allow your doctor to euthanize you without your consent.
@@chrisk6668 you know what is sad is , I happened to fall so sick during the beginning of the pandemic. Our Doctors offices were closed. I had no choice but to keep going into our Emergency Room. I kept telling them my symptoms over and over and they thought I was going in for narcotics. One Dr a lady told me …”we treat heart attack patients, stroke patients, you are just abusing our emergency department for drugs and your life isn’t worth my time!” I lost all hope at that moment. None of those doctors would even step back to see why I was going in. I had mot been to the any doctor for years . I was slowly wasting away and my daughter finally took me four hours away and I was admitted and hospitalized for over a month. My recovery has been long and hard to the point I almost gave up a few times. I don’t know I’m in therapy over it because now I’m afraid of everything. Our medical system is screwed up and I don’t know what’s going to happen now.
@@chrisk6668 what are you talking about? Consent was obtained on all these dying patients to remove life support. The removal of life support is what finished them off.
I understand the opioid crisis but cases like these are making terminally I’ll or chronic pain patients suffer unnecessarily.
Anybody working in healthcare knows you have to be prepared for malpractice suits. Even nursing students require malpractice insurance. Be ready to have every move sued over.
I hate that all these respected medical professionals have to defend themselves over a process most people don’t understand. This was a problem with the policy, not the staff trying to do their best to care for these suffering patients.
Absolutely 💯
They're defending themselves for a reason.
As an RN and manage a Hospice unit
These patients need these meds! 5 mcg! Come on!
Families freak out over morphine 5mg S/L when the patient is in pain. Short of breath. Terminal restlessness!
If I’m dying. Can’t breathe. In pain. Give me what I need!!
Watching patients suffer is unbearable!! Give them what they need to be comfortable and pass comfortably!
Why is this reporter wearing a mask!!🤦♀️
Hi. Thank you for giving them Fetanyl. I’m a recovering addict (6 years) who’s OD’d and it’s always a very pleasant experience; as in I felt really good then don’t remember anything besides waking up. Anyways, I’m glad they were able to feel nice and relaxed before departure. ❤
wake the fuck up people. This is what happens these doctors and nurses are angels that have the balls to act to help. If you never been through this you dont know.
Amen!!
Robbing people of their final moments with their loved ones is illegal whether you think it's OK is irrelevant. If you don't understand how important those moments are to a large portion of the population then you don't know. A doctor simply cannot decide on his own to euthanize people just because they think it's the best thing to do. It is illegal as can be to euthanize patients and even if it was legal informed consent laws would not allow a doctor to make his own determination without consent from their families.
@@chrisk6668 This doctor thought he was helping. There was no malicious intent. Your speaking to a 49 yr old man who has lots his entire family in just this way. Both Mother and Father and all grandparents. They all died this way. Some took weeks or months of absolute torture from Cancer. I stood beside and watched it all. The Nurses and Doctors and all the people that work in Hospice are a special type of person. Angels who watch over and comfort us and our loved ones.
I’m so glad he was proclaimed innocent.
Well when the hospital isn’t making the money for intensive care of coarse they are gonna want him out of there. The amounts they bill for those patients is incredible. Patients aren’t itemizing those bills. They can bill anything and everything.
When a patient is on hospice the priority is comfort. Morphine is given in the same way. My own 90 year old mother with metastasized cancer was given Morphine because ventilation was not supplying oxygen to her dying lungs. The Morphine relaxed her. These families had to be aware of these actions unless of course they were restricted from the hospital due to covid. If the families were restricted that is the states that is at fault. Due to covid the state gave decision options to the hospital not giving the family the option to ask for more medical assistance for the patients. What were the family's care expectations of care?
Sounds like a money grab,imo
This was before Covid, 2018.
This is a red flag issue. Three drugs are monitored due to drug addicted employees. These are naive and incompetent employees who are following his orders. Not to mention that they are all clueless about the basic laws surrounding approximate dosage.i definitely think husel went there because could get away with it
This was 2018 and the patients were not expected to get better. They were critical and the family’s wanted their loved ones removed from the ventilator. The hospital were going to lose their Medicare and Medicaid funding because they weren’t keeping tracked of the meds. They called these families up and told them the Dr OD’d them was the real reason they died. They did this to protect themselves. The pharmacist just said he thought they were stealing the drugs.
Shame on those prosecutors. When their loved ones are sick and suffering, I bet they wouldn’t want them suffering either. Karma is a b**** ya know?
I hope when they’re dying they don’t get anything because of course that would be murder
What is lethal is to remove a dying patient off of life support with the families permission. Once that is established a higher dose is required when patients have been on the meds all along.
Not true. Teir kidneys and livers weren't working well, they can't metabolize or excrete such high doses!
Shes telling the truth
The stupidity of wearing masks outside in the fresh air almost equals the stupidity of trying to prevent suffering dying patients from accessing medication
As an retired RN of 45 years experience people have no idea whatsoever of how many people die unnecessarily suffering due to the ignorant ‘do-good-ers’ in society.
Infuriating also are these greedy cruel relatives who obviously have got away with millions $$$ !
I hope they don’t get a Dr as compassionate as this Dr when they’re dying
They were huge doses and uncalled for!
Shut up fool!
You’re a doctor?
A quick search because I understand mg better, the lethal dose is 2mg or 2000mcg, accordingly most patients did not receive a lethal dose but were very comfortable when passing.
I am so glad he is innocent ,
Why did you refill, this when you found it questoinble
Justice served
Now you can reopen those testimonials, they are not stricken from the record
Healthcare personnel along with teachers are easy prey for lawsuits. There are people out there who want to sue anyone.
Was the Palliative Care Team consulted with patients and family, or did this physician alone with staff nurses, make these decisions without their knowledge and consent?
Patients could not communicate, they were minutes from death. The families agreed to this or they had a DPOA
It is common to start having conversations with families early on in the patient's stay when they are critically I'll. Patients on ventilators, needing medication for blood pressure support, needing higher doses every day, tells a picture that these patients are not responding to treatment, and most of the time, doctors have conversations with families, explaining that patients are becoming sicker, and that families need to discuss and think about withdrawing care if recovery looks fatal. So, hopefully, families were kept informed of the patients condition, and that end of life with comfort care would be a viable option to alleviate suffering, and dying on tubes. It is quite rare to hear a family member insist on prolonging treatment if doctors feel the patient is not going to survive with any quality of life. Also, when you are a patient in the ICU, you often have several specialists on your case, kidney, cardiac, neurologists, also involved in helping with these decisions for removing life support.
Ongoing treatment if
Lol.
No maxium dose when a patient ventilator being removed. Translation you don't give it, the lungs can't take it. If they survived, lungs still weak. Or they died. They help em breathe.
I like the woman with the glasses and purple shirt
Oh I hope these nurses get called as witnesses.. pharmacy knew the overrides were high they should’ve and could’ve stepped in long before they did, if they were concerned !!! I’m not convinced of the doctors guilt until it’s proven !!!
But yet he still works for them. He also refilled the accudose.
Now look at the babies of nurses and their teeth.
Right there , should have said no, administration should have begin surveillance, not have such easy access, for ventilator patients, dying anyway --
Hes was found not quilty.
Shame on the people who tried to profit from their family,members horrific death...
I bet they would, nurses , and pharmacist would change Thier words, main reason he was to busy to answer. Words sink ships.
Override - there you go doc, malpractice, you won, not your orders, they assisted in death, and when they took em off the ventilator the fentnyal cause respiratory issues. Passing out etc. With that override , you got the suponea and probable cause to procuste the Utah study-.
Nurses should know better than allow a health care professional to give this large dose and call this comfort care. Lying to save their ass! We know a portion of these doses is all that is necessary to provide comfort care. Been a nurse for 43 years and I hung an infusion of pain medicine at 100 mcg/ hour, 2 mg IV push of Versed , may have repeated as needed, usually repeated every 30-60 minutes. And overriding means you violated your policy. You knew you couldn't withdraw that much. I never gave that much, I would have felt like I was doing lethal injection. Not necessary to give this much, comfort is different than unconscious. These doses killed patients. Sad you all didn't stand up for what is right
Who are you to say what "as needed" is?
@@IzzyMariel I've been a nurse for over 43 years, most of my time in ICU. People give clues about pain when they can't verbalize their discomfort, increased heart rate, increased respiratory rate, facial expressions, increased blood pressure. We cannot always know what someone is feeling, but worth experience with hundreds of comfort care patients, you learn what a paint in pain looks like, vs a patient that is comfortable. I am not saying it is a clear cut science, but a lot of an art. If we can help pain after surgery with much lower doses of narcotics, then I can bet lower doses can help discomfort after removing life support. They must feel relief after the very uncomfortable breathing tube is removed, and narcotics and sedation in much smaller doses should help any discomfort they feel. Everyone is different, but again, if a small dose of narcotic, ( namely Fentanyl) after a major surgery helps relieve pain, one can assume a smaller dose will provide comfort in end of life situations. What people don't realize is if someone looks uncomfortable, we are able to increase the dose, and frequency, a little more a little more often. This isn't an all or nothing situation, it's a "follow the orders, give enough pain medication to patients while you assess for signs of relief." We as nurses always have the option of choosing a different medication adding medication and giving enough to get the desired effect. This isn't about not providing good pain relief, but about a doctor who was not honest to families about what his plan were for comfort care. I've been a part of comfort care for years, and never gave doses he prescribed, because it is unethical, and illegal. We don't give other medicines this way. It's not acceptable to give extra medication because we think it would benefit them. Our nursing care is regulated closely, and we follow doctors orders and can question them if it does not seem right. They all went out of the scope of their practice, and patient safety suffers when we do that. Someday, euthanasia may be legal, and then, and only then, will this kind of practice be acceptable.
@@karincampbell9289 exactly. you are never ahead of the pain, so your patients suffer. I could not live with myself if I knew I was torturing people who have no chance of living.
@@IzzyMariel I have complete peace about my comfort care techniques, and know if they are uncomfortable, I give more. But give according to my orders, and don't go outside my scope of practice. There isn't one time where I felt like my patients suffered.
@@karincampbell9289 I understand what you have to tell yourself so you can have peace. However, the fact is that the way you practice there is no way you can stay ahead of their pain.
He is innocent.
My father died last year of COPD... Suffering and drinking Ordine on oxygen was a horrible way to die.
Psychosis is catching
Dying patients, comfort care, get sedtive-, not medication that induces it. When you go hollastic and DNR you spasm and stop breathing, it pretty gruesome, so maybe we need a tick tock moment backed with utube video.
Ya think, I've seen two instances, one a duahter of of nurse had premature baby breathing issues. And another nurse baby has big head and looks underdeveloped. The overflow ends up on the street. Accudose error. There you go Jimmy Buffett 5:00 somewere. They must have a sour taste as I observe one make a fruity drink orange juice, 7 up, and cranberry, and the other bring they big gulps to work every day. We just saw the kids at the Davie military dance.
No.oxygen, 500 or not he told you not to give it.
People are wild in these comments, the job of the doctor is to find a cure, not to speed of the death that was already happening, the point of life is to actual living not try to get to death fast as possible
Nurse just told on herself
Karin Campbell. I agree with you. Sadly the nurses had poor training and experience it sounds like and Dr not to bright either!! Overriding narcotics. Wonder how much they kept for themselves. Bad practice!! Night nurses usually new grads w no experience or weirdos who can’t get along w people. Just saying also a nurse 36 years!
"Wonder how much they kept for themselves". Has there been any evidence of this, or you just trying to spread fake news? Do tell.
500-1000mcg of fent
Hōly shit
One patient Received 2000 micrograms
Yes, and this was done time and time again.
Lol. Oh, so if you give the patient a standard dose and it's clearly not doing much you can't give any more, because, ummmm, let them just suffer instead while dieing.
@@timb7775 giving more pain medicine is OK, giving lethal doses is illegal as can be.
Yes he won
We know what fentnyal does.
I love Dr. Gina Moody she's so Beautiful
The mask that the reporter is wearing is the real crime.
Then why didn't you as the programmer and boss of pharmacy change the code, easy way to do this for your level 1 substance, is you bring them, and no more no less , for patient script, nope guilty.
Seriously, a muzzle being worn while reporting? This case is really suspicious. Do your due diligence.
Yup I agree and the worst part is the pussy is outdoors!
@WSAMCS this was my same sentiment-"SHOCKED, & ALARMED"; but also Afraid for Mom's Safety-Life. I suffered repeatedly Contemporary Observation Iatrogenic's Injuries, Complex PTSD and excruciating Emotional Terror/Duress Corporate Malfeasance manipuated Malpractices❗❓❗However, when it came to Fentynal I was not informed about Risk, Unauthorized Lethal amount. After Mom was discharged from Select Specialty Hospital and seen for follow up appointmen, no Provider question me why Mom was on Fentynal nor what it was; nor the Risk. All I knew, on the forth day, she had to get that patch replaced. I was not made informed of side effects, risk, nor dependency, nor Death-Murded. Her Providers did even care to inform me about withdrawals signs and symptoms of Fentanyl. I was cruelty left in the dark, confused, Gaslighted, traumatized, and fearful for Mom's Iatrogenic induced Malfeasance Death-Murded. As far as being their Iatrogenic Scapegoat, on the most part, I kept putting that in the back of my mind. All I could control was to act in Good Faith, be intune to the God-Holy Spirit and Mom, obey them, and pray.
Not a single person is ever given proper informed consent especially with injectables. lessons learned long ago. Medical profession has no respect from me, I find them as ignorant as I once was myself.
Psychosis is catching