The Mistake That Defined Daniel Ricciardo's F1 Career
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- Daniel Ricciardo’s F1 career has, for now at least, come to an end. The Australian has enjoyed many high points in the sport, but has also faced some very difficult tests along the way. In this video, we take a look at Ricciardo’s rise and fall in F1 and explain why a decision he took in the summer of 2018 was a mistake that ultimately defined his Formula 1 career.
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Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton & George Russell
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McLaren: Lando Norris & Oscar Piastri
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Alpine: Pierre Gasly & Esteban Ocon
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With the benefit of a LOT of hindsight, was Daniel Ricciardo's decision to leave Red Bull in 2018 a big mistake? Or did he make the right call in the moment?
He made the right call. 2020 was arguably his best season and also arguably, although it seemed the right move at the time, his biggest mistake was moving to McLaren.
No, he didn't want to be a second driver to Max and that was already happening in his last season with Red Bull. If he stayed his career would have been over a few years ago probably, regardless of how he performed.
He had a deal for Redbull but Renault convinced him they would be better no number 2 status and big paycheck honda was ordinary in McLaren...
He was good at Renault and generally seemed happy there. The mistake was joining McLaren IMO.
Only bad in the sense that he ended up at Renault, and Renault faltered. Would be a different story if he ended up at Mercedes or Ferrari. Or if Renault actually got better over time
Gonna sound weird considering the current standings, but the decision to leave Renault may have actually been more damaging than the one to leave Red Bull.
It's a fair point. I'd still argue that leaving Red Bull was a career defining error (again, with hindsight) but his move away from Renault is probably another mistake. It just didn't happen at McLaren for him, did it?
I 100% agree with this one. I know Renault is an absolute mess right now but Daniel was the guy there. If he stayed at Alpine for 2021 we maybe could’ve had a lineup of Ricciardo Alonso.
@@F1Word Daniel left Red Bull and wound up at McLaren who are most likely winning the constructors this year.
So he made all the right moves.
I think he just lost his mojo somewhere in 2021, had that not happened he’d have been in a race winning car right now.
Danny can wipe any tears away with all that money.
He's probably got enough to wipe more than his tears away lol
In my opinion it wasn’t leaving Red Bull that was his biggest mistake.
It was leaving Renault.
That Renault team was built ENTIRELY around Ricciardo and he just used the Enstone team as a stop gap until something better came along like Ferrari or McLaren.
With Ferrari going for Sainz instead of Ricciardo he wasted no time in claiming the McLaren seat. That was the turning point.
I agree with the point you've made about leaving Renault being a mistake. But leaving Red Bull in the first place (obviously) led to his move to Renault where he had to deal with their reported nonsense behind the scenes. That then led to him leaving for McLaren where he got dropped and then on to AlphaTauri/VCARB. So it was still the Red Bull exit that defined his career and was a massive mistake. That Red Bull exit triggered it all.
That said, as I mentioned in the video, leaving made sense at the time given what was going on around him. This is ALL with the benefit of a lot of hindsight.
@@F1Word the inter team problems starting at Renault after Ricciardo announced his departure if I remember correctly. Cyril Abiteboul lost his job because of it.
And to take it even further, if only he performed well at Mclaren and got to keep his seat...where could he be now in 2024? Daniel's career is a perfect example of a person with incredible talent but blinded by ego and impatience. He had 3 BIG chances with 3 BIG teams (extremely rare nowadays), and he managed to ruin them all by himself.
I feel really sad and sorry for him for leaving F1 the way he did, but at the same time, not so much...after thinking of his career in hindsight and considering he was the very author of his own bad ending.
Yeah it was leaving Alpine and getting his soul crushed by Lando.
Felt like he ran from RB after Baku 18 because he wanted to show Marko and Horner that he’s a big boy who can make his own grown up decisions, just turned out to be a terrible decision and the rest of his career was spent looking for the form he had at RB
It definitely was a mistake to leave Red Bull, but I wonder if his dip in form would've still happened even if he stayed at Red Bull? It's an interesting thought.
The alternate timeline would be fascinating!
Welp.... Moving back to your ex was not a good idea after all.
He could have been king, but chose to demote himself to the court jester's position
he knew max was too strong for him lol
dr got greedy and couldnt handle the pressure max was bringing lol
Leaving HRT was Riccardo's biggest mistake, he'd of definitely won the championship with the 2012 car.
100%. What was he thinking?!
Plot twist: checo out/danny in lol
financially he made great decisions, because in at redbull he was getting paid pennies. 50 million at Alpine for 2 years followed by 25 million at Mclaren for 2 years that's 75 million in 4 years. Always take the money especially when you have a short career in sports. He can cry in his mansions for the rest of his life being financially great.
Honestly, it's hard to argue that Ricciardo made any bad moves on paper, only that he couldn't make them work. He left Red Bull for a monster salary at Renault, then left that team while his stock was at its peak to take another monster salary and gigantic 3 year deal at McLaren. The only reasons those moves were seen as questionable was due to McLaren's form in 2022 relative to Renault, as well as the beating he took from Norris, but the Norris issue was purely down to his own driving ability.
If RIcciardo had been able to adapt better to the 2022 McLaren (and the 2021 McLaren as well, let's not forget that he also struggled pre-ground effect cars), then he wouldn't have had his contract cut short, and would be sitting in the 2nd best car come the end of 2023, and likely could have gotten another year driving the cream of the crop McLaren car in 2024.
He made all of the right moves on paper, he just couldn't drive well enough, and it's clear from his RB stint that it wasn't solely down to the McLaren cars themselves. Ultimately in this sport it's adapt or die, and its that quality that truly seperates the greats from the good.
Some really great points. Thank you!
He had adapted to the Red Bull though and was delivering for them. So, had he stayed, who knows what he could have achieved (tough up against Max though). As I said, his move to Renault actually made sense at the time given everything going on around him. But with the benefit of 6 (6?!) years of hindsight, it was a mistake, in my opinion.
No it’s not, it’s really easy to argue he made several bad movea
@@scottmeredith3359does that mean Norris should destroy him.
Nah he got like what, 50 mil for 2 years. I'd make that deal aswell.
Haha. Fair enough. But he's a racer and I'm sure he'd rather have more wins, podiums and (who knows) maybe a title or title challenge to his name.
Daniel should have talked to Jacques Villeneuve before moving teams….😂 never move to a team that hasn’t proved themselves.
Anyways he’s rich and has all of the women he wants. Enjoy your life Danny.
Haha. That's true. That B.A.R move was...weird.
Yeah, he's got money. But he's a racer and I'm sure he'd prefer more wins, podiums and possibly, maybe, perhaps a title win or challenge to his name.
@@F1Word JV was at the top. He could have easily won the championship the first yr he was with Hill. BAR must have made JV a ton of money 💰 for him to sacrifice his career like that. At least Jenson eventually won in the “BAR BAT HONDA BRAWN” car. Hehe.
Oh, Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling
From glen to glen, and down the mountain side.
The summer's gone, and all the roses falling,
It's you, it's you must go
Honestly it was the move to McLaren. He (and almost everyone else) expected him to lead the team back to glory
However, Lando Norris absolutely crushed him
We’re starting to see just how good Lando really is but damn it must have hurt
Right call, he don't want to be Max sidekick. Horner talk was delusion, Daniel was aware about no.2 status and perferential treatment towards Max.
Ricciardo's skill level just vanished when he joined McLaren, 2019 at Renault was a struggling season, 2020 a lot better. Aside from his Red Bull stint he wasn't fantastic to be brutally honest.
Mistake, he was in one of the best teams (RedBull) and he was far from being one of the best drivers.
He thought he was better than what he was.
He could have helped Renault they had a car he could drive. It was just missing the engine, that may have come. After he left they fell into the
Alpine circus they now are with zero pride in their own car or people.
Daniel is very emotional
Seems once his ego was bruised he couldn’t regain the self confidence needed to be successful
Thank you Sean! A comprehensive and well presented bit of entertaining exposition concerning the odd and nearly woeful career of the young ninja, Ricci Bobby! Daniel was always a Star of F1, from beginning to end! He will always personify what it has meant to be a Formula One driver! There is no doubt that he will always be a standout member of the F1 community! He will always be recognized for being a larger than life human being FIRST! F1 can be, and often is, a fickle mistress! Danny has always given more than his all! I do not believe for one second that this is the last we will see of him in F1!
This is probably a bit harsh, but I think Ricciardo did much better financially than he deserved. Despite some strong performances in a RB car that complemented his driving style, he was never as good as he thought he was.
Although he could have been successful points, podiums and race win wise buy sticking with RB but it was clear that Horner and Marko were going to be focusing all their effort on verstappen and 'build the team around him' but indeed, everything fell apart for him after this point and kept moving around different teams and such.
I remember when this move happened Damon Hill I think said “in F1 you should never leave a team capable of winning races for a team that is not”. He was right.
I honestly think Daniel is having a hard time with the 2022 type of car which is bigger and larger. He's used to 2010-2021 cars which is smaller and narrower. Its made for his driving style and easier to overtake and dive bomb
When RBR made it clear Max was their number 1, his chances of ever fighting for a WC title where slim to none. I think realizing this he made the smart choice and decided to cash out as much as he could from the sport instead. So sporting wise and money wise I think with hindsight it was the smartest choice he could make to leave RBR and until you are in situ it is hard to know how a team is run and he choice Renault over Mclaren and that could be seen as a mistake, but like I said impossible to judge at the time.
Leaving Red Bull was the biggest mistake I think. He would've been a great second driver next to Max and great for publicity. He's been on a downward spiral going from one bad team to another ever since. Should've stuck with Red Bull and wait for the right time and a seat to come available at an equal team
I think Ric is walking away with an impressive career in F1 and a bank account full of money. Yeah, he fizzled towards the end, but many others do as well. Its hard to blame him leaving RB. That whole operation seems like a somewhat toxic environment.
He didn't make good choices with regard to teams, but I think that his driving did also did decline, so had he stayed at Red Bull I still think would have struggle in the last couple of years.
Danny would have eventually been relegated to #2 at RedBull, but if he stayed at Renault he would always be a primary driver
2017 is always a better comparison due to the amount of retirements due to mechanical issues Riccardo had in 2018. His biggest mistake was leaving Renault as the team was improving and only went down hill when he left
You can look at the situation and say leaving Red Bull was a mistake, but you also have to consider the financials. I think Daniel made a lot more money than he otherwise would have, and maybe he was never going to be a world champion. He built up his profile and now that’s going to carry him through the rest of his life. He didn’t do too bad, in my book.
Verstappen was better Ricciardo in 2017 just the results don't show it. Bahrain, Spain, Canada, Baku, Belgium and Singapore are all the races Verstappen retired from what would've been podium finishes and two of those possible wins and would've beaten Ricciardo in basically all those races.
Malaysia onwards when his car stopped failing Verstappen was easily better than Ricciardo.
Ricciardo still was one of the top 5 drivers that season.
Conveniently leaving out that after Malaysia, it was then Ricciardo’s car that started breaking down (DNFs in COTA, Mexico, Abu Dhabi, and an engine penalty in Brazil
The truth is Ricciardo had just as many mechanical DNFs as Verstappen, not to mention being taken out by Max in Hungary
Verstappen almost always retired from podiums whereas Ricciardo didn't.
decision to leave rb first time is the main mistake.......
I think we can collectively agree that the 2018 event was called out as a bad move for ric, and lo and behold 6 yrs later that has turned out to be true.
I wonder if he stayed at Red Bull if he would have experience the same problems that Perez did.
Danny Ric - sounds like he needed to be emotionally tougher for F1 - way too many jumps
Yeah as much as we like him it was so arrogant to leave Red Bull and then Renault. Know when you have it good and don’t let go.
Mclaren was what did it for him , had he not left he mightve been in a top team
Baku 2018 and Sahkir 2020 are races that are still affecting the present.
He was allowed to win the monza race. Lando could’ve easily taken P1 that day
I think Norris exposed him, that defined his career. lol.
Three is also the number of teams he raced for after leaving Red Bull...
There was in interview with max , “oh he (danny) is moving down the grid next year “
When was he ever asked to give up position to favor Max?
That is such an incredible title for this video!!
He should never of left Red Bull period.
Leaving RB was never the issue, it was leaving Renault
Don’t disagree in some ways. But he (obviously) left Red Bull first and that triggered the chain of events that led him to where he is now. So, whilst the Renault exit could be viewed as a mistake, his Red Bull departure ultimately triggered that.
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I don't think he made any mistakes it was the car rule changes that came in 2021 and 22 they just didn't suite his late breaking driving style and as Lando has said when Dan has a car that suites him he's great but struggles otherwise
he's actually an early braker despite his overtaking style, i think driver61 talked about it
it's a common misconception
People talk a lot about the switch to Renault, but personally I feel it was the McLaren switch that really defined his career. No the Renault wasn't great for the 2 years he was there, but he still performed at a really high level, let's not forget he was a top 4 driver of the year in 2020. For whatever reason he just seemingly lost it all overnight the minute he got in the McLaren. It's one of those where McLaren was definitely the right move for car performance, but the wrong one for his own sake.
I don’t disagree in a lot of ways. However, it will always be the Renault switch that defines his career for me. Leaving Red Bull ultimately triggered the sequence of events that led him to where he is now.
Again (as I said in the video) his Renault move made sense at the time given the position he was in - feeling like the number 2 etc. but was a mistake in hindsight.
@@F1Word Absolutely, none of what ended up happening since 2019 occurs if he doesn't decide to leave Red Bull. Regardless it just makes me sad how it all ended up. That 2014 season he had at Red Bull was to me just as good, if not even better than Leclerc's first year at Ferrari. Even as a Vettel fan I couldn't help but get excited and admire what he was doing that season. I genuinely thought he could've been a World Champion.
Financially he made the best moves possible lol. However career wise, he should've just stayed at Renault/Alpine. The entire team and project was built around him, the car suited his driving style perfectly as well which the McLaren at the time didn't.
However the question is that did Riccardo really adapt to these new regs. Regardless if he stayed at Red Bull or Alpine, would he have struggled anyways with the ground-effect cars
I'd still argue that leaving Red Bull was a career defining mistake - after all, that was the move that saw him end up at Renault and then walk away from them for McLaren - but I totally see why people say staying at Enstone was the right thing to do.
That said, as I went over in the video, he wasn't totally happy with what was going on behind the scenes and so wanted out. It's a shame because there was potential in the Ricciardo x Renault partnership.
(Good point btw on the ground-effect cars)
You can look now and say in hindsight it was ridiculous to leave Red Bull. But there are so many variables, we have no clue how it would have turned out if he had stayed. Not to mention in 2024 Daniel would probably love playing second fiddle to Max, but in 2018 he wasn't in the mental place to accept that. If he had stayed the infighting would have likely continued which may have been bad for all parties involved.
Oh yeah, this is obviously all with hindsight. As I say in the video, the decision to leave made sense at the time given everything going on around him. But there's no doubt that leaving Red Bull was a big mistake that ultimately defined his career. That and, as others have pointed out, leaving Renault for McLaren. The alternate timeline would be really fascinating though!
@@F1Word My guess is if he stays he gets more disgruntled as time goes on. Max came into his own near the tail end of Daniels Red Bull career. In 2019 he would have continued to lose influence until he became the clear #2 driver.
Just my opinion and I agree it would have been interesting to see but I'd guess that even if he signed in 2018 he'd have left shortly thereafter.
Sucks that this move derailed a good career but he wasn’t as good as rose tinted fans will make out. Do not mistake me he was excellent and had a few performances any driver would be proud of but I’ve seen a lot of people saying he’s a wdc calibre driver which I highly doubt he would ever get close. I will miss him and it’s a shame that his confidence was clearly shot by the time he got to McLaren
Agree with pretty much everything you said. I do recall him being considered a potential 'future WDC' by many in his time with Red Bull, though - but we'll now never know for sure if that was the case.
@@F1Word he’s got talent but I mean more that in his prime you still had Hamilton Vettel and max coming up in the three dominant cars so just feel like the landscape of f1 wasn’t there for him sadly. In a grid without 3 of arguably top 5-10 drivers of all time he gets a look in he’s just not in that conversation which is unfortunate
Disagree, from 2014-2017 he was 100% at the level of a WDC contender, Red Bull just never gave him the car
Having met Ricardo I can tell you the guy is a gem of a person. He doesn’t do toxicity, him leaving Red Bull was something he had to do for his soul the same way he left McLaren.
Sadly, I've never had the chance to meet him. However, I have no doubt whatsoever that he is - as you put it - a "gem of a person!" :)
He didn't leave McLaren, they caned him.
His fans does toxicity though. Attacking Lawson, Yuki, Perez.. anyone even though they aren't management making the decisions and had nothing to do with his performance and firing. It's gross. Even taking shots at Stroll, totally nothing to do with this, emotionally unstable rabid fans.