TYPE 21 FRIGATE BRIEF - NO. 25

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  • These fast looking, fast warships were well armed, and quite spacious for her crews. and her subclasses would take some damage before she went down. im looking at the Alvand class. which i love
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  • @iainmacdonald1170
    @iainmacdonald1170 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My 30 months on Ambuscade were perhaps the happiest of my 38 years service; there was just something about the design and 'atmosphere' onboard that their ship's companies loved. Many years later I had the pleasure of meeting a Pakistani naval officer who commanded her after transfer to their navy. He said they felt exactly the same way about the ship.

    • @DaveJMcGarry
      @DaveJMcGarry ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ambuscade is coming home. She's heading for Glasgow as a museum ship after being donated by the Pakistan Navy

    • @iainmacdonald1170
      @iainmacdonald1170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DaveJMcGarry Thanks, Dave I’d read that too. Fantastic if it comes off but I hope they realise the huge upkeep costs involved even after (presumably) they return her to her RN fit. If they open a crowdfund I’d certainly contribute.

  • @greyfriar9008
    @greyfriar9008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The greyhounds of the sea.
    A toast to all members of the 21 Club.

  • @DavidStockford
    @DavidStockford 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great looking and fast. Not good in bad weather due to the cracking of the superstructure. Spent time in South Atlantic on HMS Avenger. Good crew on board.

  • @robinpayne125
    @robinpayne125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I believe the Flower Class corvettes that helped win the battle of the Atlantic were a private builder design.
    My personal understanding is the melting aspect of the aluminium construction is rather overstated, although there were other problems with the aluminium superstructure concept.

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that is correct. Smiths Dock Ltd of Middlesbrough provided a version of their 700 ton whaler Southern Pride as this class of ship.

  • @ross.venner
    @ross.venner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Apart from the fated HMS Captain, please don't forget the private designs for WW1 destroyers, all the way to the V & W classes and the A class destroyers that followed in the 1930s.

  • @leonasmith6180
    @leonasmith6180 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks you, nicely done, informative and a clear voice. Leona

  • @HowM771
    @HowM771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am absolutely obsessed over these ships. It's really nice to look at and armed to the teeth

  • @darrenshiels4963
    @darrenshiels4963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Served on ARROW F173. Great ships and loved my their crews.

    • @JS97278
      @JS97278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Respect, I just bought a watch that was bought from the NAFFI in 84 by a serving officer on board Arrow

  • @iceman7975
    @iceman7975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The porsches of the fleet

    • @thecurlew7403
      @thecurlew7403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Were they any good a few were sunk .

  • @josephdioneda2881
    @josephdioneda2881 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Our country should have this type of surface naval shield after its great service in the Royal Navy, too bad they never knew.

  • @dih9788
    @dih9788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Seacat GWS 22. Great against Stukas.

  • @johnboothr1
    @johnboothr1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ambuscade was my one & only skimmer in the mob.

  • @asd36f
    @asd36f ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sale to Pakistan proved controversial. The Defence Export Sales Organisation (DESO) was attacked for getting rid of the ships without inviting British companies to bid for the lucrative job of modernising and upgrading them. As a result of DESO's haste to get the Type 21 off their books, they underwent a major modernisation with equipment and weaponry from a variety of European suppliers.

  • @MrLorenzovanmatterho
    @MrLorenzovanmatterho 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She was our girl and we loved her she was our whole world for months on end, nothing else remains to be said.

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3.5 million!! 😂
    Oh my, those were the days.

  • @jonellison9832
    @jonellison9832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Radar Type 992Q had a maximum range of 80 to 90 miles. (Former 992Q Maintainer)

  • @tamzidkarim9402
    @tamzidkarim9402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    PNS Tariq, Tipu Sultan, Shahjahan and Khaiber are in service with Pakistan Navy, due to be replaced by Type 054AP class FFG by 2021.
    Currently 2 out of 4 of these frigates are armed with 2x4 Harpoon AShM's and remaining two armed with Chinese 1x6 cell launcher LY 60 SAM. All 4 frigates have 20mm Phalanx CIWS mounted on its aft deck.

    • @QasimAli-to5lk
      @QasimAli-to5lk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tariq was the last remaning and was retired last year and was donated to the Royal Navy

    • @tamzidkarim9402
      @tamzidkarim9402 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@QasimAli-to5lk Yes she finally got retired last year. Although it'd be better if she was preserved as a museum ship in Pakistan, like the Daphne class submarine PNS Hangor.

  • @TREVORALLMAN
    @TREVORALLMAN หลายเดือนก่อน

    My brother served on HMS Amazon as a CPO(R) from 1988 to 1991. Whilst he admitted they looked nice, he didn't rate them highly as a warship, saying they were basically only good for chasing drug dealers in the Caribbean, for flying the flag around the globe and holding parties for dignitaries. He also stated that the lack of a long-range radar wasn't really a problem, as only being armed with Sea Cat missiles, there was not much they could do even if they spotted an enemy aircraft coming into attack.

  • @comeslittorissaxonici7395
    @comeslittorissaxonici7395 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Plenty of privately designed ships between Captain & Type 21 - Agincourt, Canada, Erin, Triumph, Swiftsure, Mersey, Humber .... etc.

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flower Class Corvettes

    • @comeslittorissaxonici7395
      @comeslittorissaxonici7395 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benwilson6145 Sort of. Admiralty adaptation of a commercial design, like "Strath", "Mersey" and "Castle" trawlers, MFVs etc. Conversely, most WWI destroyer classes had variants from Thorneycroft and Yarrow with their own take on the Admiralty spec, as were the two "A"s when destroyer building restarted inter war. The Hunt 4s were another example of the type.

  • @harryjohnson9215
    @harryjohnson9215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes someone uses the correct name for aluminium.

  • @dih9788
    @dih9788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beautiful ships ;-)

  • @andron2348
    @andron2348 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh what??? it's "LEP - PARD"

  • @dih9788
    @dih9788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    T21s were based in Guzz Devonport, Plymouth.

    • @PeteCourtier
      @PeteCourtier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Di H My dad fixed plenty of these in Devonport👍 A few 23’s are in refit now.

  • @ianmcfadyen4819
    @ianmcfadyen4819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice looking ships. I'd feel safer serving on sturdier steel ones, though.

    • @DaveJMcGarry
      @DaveJMcGarry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any ship on fire is just as bad!

  • @obiphil8672
    @obiphil8672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful but really poorly armed. Til the Exocet installation, the 3000 ton ship only had 1 gun,1 almost useless point defence AA missile system. a chopper and llight anti sub torpedoes.

  • @marzipan1560
    @marzipan1560 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leopold class frigates?!?! You mean Leopard, as in the big cat.

  • @seanhogan6273
    @seanhogan6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No cracks in the hull just the aluminium superstructure predominately 3 deck.

    • @Cous1nJack
      @Cous1nJack ปีที่แล้ว

      How can it be superstructure and 3 deck?

  • @spider45webster
    @spider45webster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the Exocets were positioned same as the 22,s. Left fires right, right fires left.

  • @shaukatjahangir1396
    @shaukatjahangir1396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was served on two of them

  • @eamon821
    @eamon821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you think these vessels were a waste of money a d instead the funds used to build the more type 22 frigates or better type 42 destroyers?

    • @paultanton4307
      @paultanton4307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      From what I have read about these the answer is not really - it was more about the Capacity to Design and Build Escorts at the time rather than just the cost.The Designers at Bath were busy enough with the T22/42 plans and there wasn't any spare Shipyard Capacity for building another class that's why Vosper Thornycroft were bought in as they could provide the finished product independently.

    • @TheShipYard2
      @TheShipYard2  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As bad as the design was, a hull Is a hull, and in modern days more hulls the better. Modern warfare is to quoted boss is “a dick measuring contest” and tbh, that’s what it is

    • @comeslittorissaxonici7395
      @comeslittorissaxonici7395 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paultanton4307 Also needed to show RN buying Vosper designs to make export sales. Probably better to have built another 6 Leanders.

    • @thecurlew7403
      @thecurlew7403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They look mor corvette than figate no antiaircraft missile other than seacat.

  • @Assassinus2
    @Assassinus2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “Aluminium, or, as you guys in America call it, aluminum.” Priceless.

    • @TheShipYard2
      @TheShipYard2  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not my fault Americans can’t English 😂

    • @petesheppard1709
      @petesheppard1709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We talk 'Murrican!! :D

    • @reluctantheist5224
      @reluctantheist5224 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Miss - iles "rather than" missls" if you want to be British in that too.

  • @toveychurchill6468
    @toveychurchill6468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think building warships with civilian contractors would make military info at risk during the cold war or, today?

  • @DaveJMcGarry
    @DaveJMcGarry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    F185 HMS Avenger (PNS Tippu Sultan) was sunk as a target in April 2020. Old ships. Fair winds and following seas.

  • @toomanyuserids
    @toomanyuserids ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The RN is very lucky it survived the bumbling stupid that was the Seacat.

  • @petershepherd3458
    @petershepherd3458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Missile not missle!

  • @GrenvilleP710
    @GrenvilleP710 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leopold ? He means Leopard often known as the Cat Class ....What a juvenile commentary.

  • @masoodkhan73
    @masoodkhan73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i also pakistan navy and type 21 frigate use in pakistan navy

  • @dih9788
    @dih9788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    HMS LEOPARD CLASS

    • @leemoores9830
      @leemoores9830 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cat class frigates - I served on HMS LYNX

  • @christinehogan865
    @christinehogan865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When are you going to make another tutorial?

  • @TheFilwud
    @TheFilwud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pronunciation lesson time: Rothesay is not pronounced Roth-er-sea, it is pronounced Roth-sea. Ignore the "er".

  • @callmecorey4206
    @callmecorey4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    first comment