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Royal Nay and Royal Netherlands Navy did cooperate on this project, but I doubt the project failed on the Dutch demand that the ship's length would be limited to 112 meters, since their own frigates (Kortenaer class) had a length of 128 meters and the dry dock, than under construction, can accommodate ships up to 144 meters.
Good for people to make these videos talking about less successful designs of the Cold War as we are designing new frigates today. Also, 285 people was a lot of manpower for a frigate, that is not a lot less than a destroyer’s manning.
They do but it will never happen. When we bought them they were supposed to be upgraded to modern standards but it fell through.. Now any modifications are pointless, the ships are outdated in every way and are now just alive so romania is not left almost completely without ships.. They needed to be replaced since we bought them but we haven't been able to do that yet since we have more important things we need to modernize
The batch 1 & 2 ships were cheap expendable ASW frigates no point putting too much on them as they were single mission ships designed to hunt the numerous Soviet subs. Multi-purpose means more expensive individual ships which means you can't risk losing them at sub hunting.
It's a shame that they didn't see more life in Romania.. they were supposed to be modernized when we bought them but.. economical and corruption problems left them useless
What are you talking about, HMS Hermes an aircraft carrier from the 1950s was the 1982 flag ship for the Falklands War, her sister carrier HMS bulwark was around too. The type 22 frigates are much remembed, they were our 'Goal Keepers' ie always no more then 500ft from us, protecting us, like a collie darting around its flock.
the Type 22 (Batch III) class 4,382 ton (5,063 ton loaded) guided missile frigate powered by iFuelCell® e-HYBRId™ M-HEP system . . . in the 1990s the Type 22 (Batch III) could have been upgraded with a 16-cell VLS built into the forward bow section of the main deck . . . in between the 83 MM Oto Melara main gun (positioned further up, far side of the bow) & frontal superstructure . . . a 30 MM Goalkeeper CIWS built on top of the aft superstructure . . . other upgrades on the Type 22 could incorporate a revised heli deck arrangement & larger hangar in the far aft stern section of the frigate . . . big enough to accommodate two ship-borne AW101 Merlin HM4 multi mission CSAR helos . . .
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Royal Nay and Royal Netherlands Navy did cooperate on this project, but I doubt the project failed on the Dutch demand that the ship's length would be limited to 112 meters, since their own frigates (Kortenaer class) had a length of 128 meters and the dry dock, than under construction, can accommodate ships up to 144 meters.
My stepmum served on the HMS battle-axe during her deployment in the gulf war. She was the assistant radiographer (chief tea maker)
Well, it was nice that they named the ship after her anyhow.
Dont say 'the' HMS. There's no need.
Best warship name ever.
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Good for people to make these videos talking about less successful designs of the Cold War as we are designing new frigates today. Also, 285 people was a lot of manpower for a frigate, that is not a lot less than a destroyer’s manning.
Great video as always. The Batch 3s are amongst the best looking ships of the type (not debating that)
Batch 2 also had an improved bow
9:02 The Romanian frigates have space forward of the bridge that could accommodate a RAM launcher.
Could, but won't, because the country's bankrupt due to all the populist measures, and defence is the last thing on politicians' mind.
They do but it will never happen. When we bought them they were supposed to be upgraded to modern standards but it fell through..
Now any modifications are pointless, the ships are outdated in every way and are now just alive so romania is not left almost completely without ships..
They needed to be replaced since we bought them but we haven't been able to do that yet since we have more important things we need to modernize
@@UncleMisu TRUE !...sad also, because of idiots with high level of corruption
Great video could you do the Type 23 next....
“Lets design a ship without main guns, what could possibly go wro-“
The Scheeming Skyhawk:
stupid comment
The batch 1 & 2 ships were cheap expendable ASW frigates no point putting too much on them as they were single mission ships designed to hunt the numerous Soviet subs.
Multi-purpose means more expensive individual ships which means you can't risk losing them at sub hunting.
The main gun is usually for surface targets. Not for intercepting aircrafts. But - well - in case of emergency you will get whatever you can.
@@Ushio01 Batch 1 and 2 were not cheap....
@ couple of hundred million each not the billion+ of other escorts or multi billion of modern escorts.
It's a shame that they didn't see more life in Romania.. they were supposed to be modernized when we bought them but.. economical and corruption problems left them useless
Nice video. Keep it up
What are you talking about, HMS Hermes an aircraft carrier from the 1950s was the 1982 flag ship for the Falklands War, her sister carrier HMS bulwark was around too. The type 22 frigates are much remembed, they were our 'Goal Keepers' ie always no more then 500ft from us, protecting us, like a collie darting around its flock.
Thats some great old footage you've dug up!
It was nice to see Cherry B (F75) in the video..
Last time I was this early they still wanted to use hammers on periscopes.
Had the Brave, batch 2 1987-1990. They were beautiful ships but criminally and suicidally under-armed.
the Type 22 (Batch III) class 4,382 ton (5,063 ton loaded) guided missile frigate powered by iFuelCell® e-HYBRId™ M-HEP system . . . in the 1990s the Type 22 (Batch III) could have been upgraded with a 16-cell VLS built into the forward bow section of the main deck . . . in between the 83 MM Oto Melara main gun (positioned further up, far side of the bow) & frontal superstructure . . . a 30 MM Goalkeeper CIWS built on top of the aft superstructure . . . other upgrades on the Type 22 could incorporate a revised heli deck arrangement & larger hangar in the far aft stern section of the frigate . . . big enough to accommodate two ship-borne AW101 Merlin HM4 multi mission CSAR helos . . .
You've left your bulls*it filters open and transmitting when you should be EMCON silent.
My Favourite small warship Type 22 batch 3 .. guns cwis missiles helo ..full kit fabulous looking ship I think