Fixing the wipers on a Renault Grand Scenic Mk3 (not an EV!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- Out of sync wipers on a Renault Grand Scenic Mk3 is a common issue, caused by water getting stuck in the scuttle due to blocked drains. It's often associated with a fault on the parking brake - also caused (I believe) by water ingress. Our family bus has both of these issues - amongst others: it's a total lemon. But I'm also rather fond of it.
So in this video I take an enforced break from upgrading my electric car conversion and fix the wipers on the Scenic - and with a bit of luck, the parking brake fault as well.
Both drains in the scuttle proved to be completely blocked with gunk. So I cleared those out and replaced both motors with good used units. Since I've done this, the wipers seem to be working find and the intermittent parking brake fault has only popped up just once. Maybe some residual water.
Fitted 2 motors to my Scenic today and soo glad I watched your video,job done in 2 hrs and working A1,never would of managed if I hadn:t watched your video.Thanks for saving me a few bob.
Do the part numbers for each wiper motor need to be the same ..?
My absolute pleasure!
thank you for this video we have just had a scenic mk3 which had the motors replaced mechanic never cleaned the scuttle drains so hubby to the rescue 😊 luckily we caught it as the driver side was filling back up with water. Saved us a bunch of money and a headache with this process keep up the good videos
Video of the above described job, water collecting in scuttle on 2010 scenic 3: th-cam.com/users/shortsdol-aUbZqNc
As the wifey said... thank you and great content as always 👍
Thanks for this great detailed video. It's saved our 2010 family bus from going to the scrap yard. We manage to purchase a set of wiper motors from eBay for £300. All fitted and working like new again. The guy we bought them from told me it tends to be the passenger side motor which fails, this has the controller circuitry for the wipers. Many thanks 😁
That's fantastic! Thanks for letting me know.
and did you replace them yourself or at what cost was it in total did you get a garage to do it or a mate do it
I ev been to dealer and they quoted 469 for part and labour for 1 side after 99.50 for investigation.
Thanks for the video, great help
I changed my wifes car ones today also. Thanks for the flaps tip. They are now in the bin. I hope no junk will be trapped anymore for a while. Thank you so much.
My pleasure! Well done.
Every scenic owner needs a garage like this 😂
Ha! Too true. Wish I still had it. If I did, I might get around to fixing the drop links, lower suspension arm and all the other myriad things that need doing.
bless you for working on modern appliances (I mean) cars
Not my favourite pastime but necessary!
That's a good phrase. Domestic appliance
Thanks so much for the helpful and funny video! I have almost zero experience but this got me through.
Fab!
I have had to this today. Your video has been so useful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for a brilliantly explained and entertaining video.
Cheers!
Great help. Just saved me an absolute fortune. Thanks 👍
Glad it helped!
Thanks for this! Window wipers have been an intermittent nightmare for a while now. I'll have a crack at cleaning and modifying the scuttles this weekend. Also have the intermittent brake issue and an intermittent speaker on passenger side
Brakes was absolutely the water thing as well. Since I cleared the drains it has never happened again.
@@EVDIY brilliant, thanks for that. Emptied them yesterday. They were completely clogged up.
On your video you mentioned your starter went too. What issues were you having with it?
I think mine is going, it's intermittently dead, just a click and then buzzing. Reseating the plug in the fuse box seems to fix it for now
@@kieran8028 It died when my wife was away with the car so I never got to diagnose it. But one day it just wouldn't go. They had to take it to a garage near her folks and they diagnosed failed starter. I'm still not 100% that was the issue.
i ve got second hand one from ebay and fixed my car, many thanks for the video
Excellent!
Did it needed programming?
@@JJ-jc8yv mine didnt. I fit it and did work perfectly
My wiper motors went, cant get new ones anywhere, but found a great used parts website & paid about £360 with 6 months guarantee. My driver's door lock went also, found a new one at £200.
I changed driver side all working now
I don't suppose you know where I could find a pair of these motors? I can't find any anywhere and I've just got a scenic that needs new ones 😢
I'm afraid not. If there's nothing on eBay then calling Renault specialist breakers would be my next step
JPS CAR PARTS, I used, based in Carlisle. They aren't a breakers yard, but they go to them & buy & test used parts for many brands. Highly recommend them.
Thanks for this brilliant video. Easy to follow and with a good level of useful info, not least about the drain tubes and looking out for the potentially missing bush. I have the same issue re wipers and with 140k miles on the clock and several dings to various body panels, our 'family bus' ain't worth much and so we are definitely in 'write off' territory. You might have just saved the day! Thanks a million :-) One question - has anyone tried to replace just one motor and then retro-sync to the original one? Just thinking ...
Cheers! I believe they have tried this but with mixed results. Sometimes it proves to be a very short term fix I'm afraid.
Hi..
Please can I ask a question,
Do the part numbers have to be the same.?
Or does it not matter as long as the part is the same .
Thank you
Good question. I'm afraid I don't know the answer!
Each one will have a different part number, as they are slightly different for each side. After 8yrs fault free everything is going kaput.
It would have been beneficial to me if you could say what your wipers were doing that made you change both motors. At the moment our passenger wiper eventually moves itself out of the way into the service position and then the drivers side works as it should. I can't get the wipers to go into the service position the same as you did, how long do you have to wait? I've tried waiting 2 seconds, 5 seconds, 10 seconds - So frustrating. I have tried a reset procedure I found online with the ignition on move stalk from 0 to 1 and then 1 to 0, then disconnect the wiper motor plugs and reconnect and do the same with the ignition on move stalk from 0 to 1 and then 1 to 0. Nothing makes any difference. I feel like the motors are working if they move the wiper arms. With the drivers side working as it should would the passenger side still be able to move itself out of the way? Any help appreciated
Long time ago now so can't remember brilliantly. But they would freeze half way up the window frequently. Often the motor isn't the issue, it's all the electronics that are packaged with it.
Tom's guilty secret his Icey goodness. I have a IC Honda Odyssey JDM.
It's true! Probably our last but in spite of being a total lemon, it's perfect for what we need right now.
@@EVDIY and fair enough. When your doing diy you kind of still need a factory car for family and work
Is it really necessary to have the wipers in service position do do this job? Can it not be done with wipers lying horisontally?
Not sure. Just following the instructions!
unfortunately with these cars the design of the scuttle drains is terrible. I'm on my 3rd scenic now, and every one ive bought the first job I did is clear scuttle drains and cut off the rubber flap. my current Mk3 grand scenic has the original wiper motors because the scuttle has never been blocked. also don't forget to poke a long curtain wire down the drain hose.
Hi Wondering if you could help me figure out if we need new motors on our Renault Scenic and if so which motor/motors need replacement.
Currently when returning to the car the driver's wiper will move up the screen as you unlock the door for some reason and then it waits for the passenger side wiper to move itself out of the way in small incremental movements which only happens with turning the wipers on and off 4 times or so. Once it finds its way back down to the bottom of the windscreen the passenger side then moves itself up to the service position out of the way and then the drivers wiper functions as normal for the rest of the journey. Only to go through the above procedure again when entering the car again for the next trip.
I have not managed to find anyone online discussing the same issues in the same way, but it seems to me that the driver side is OK and it would be the passenger side that is having problems.
Any help appreciated,
Many thanks
Generally best to replace both is what I read. You can resync different motors I believe but if one has gone, you've probably got the blocked scuttle drains that mean the other won't be far behind.
What a stupid place for the drain tubes though! And those motors, just how does water get into them, they are supposedly
'sealed!!
Yep! Not good design. And I think the motors just get so deluged it finally gets past the seals.
yes good point
@@EVDIYit's the autumn & leaves that fall into the scuttle. Make sure you check every week.
Please do a video on actually stripping and repairing the wiper motor as it is impossible to get a second hand motor in Northern Ireland and have been ripped of buying used on line.
Also in Northern Ireland. I had to bite the bullet and buy a second hand passenger side wiper motor of ebay for 180 quid. I rang around main Renault dealerships and told that they're on an 8 month back order. Crazy but fingers crossed the used one is working fine
Probably a bit beyond me. Desperate to get shot of this car now. Things just keep failing!
I had the same problem with my wife’s 15 plate, I swapped the passenger motor on my 10 plate and the fault moved to mine.
I was really luck to find a replacement in a local salvage yard for £50!!
my 10 plate has been brilliant but my wife’s younger model has had a few niggly issues with the electrics.
I wonder how much this is down to washing style.
Mine has only ever been washed with a sponge, I know pressure washing your car is a really bad move.
I hadn't thought of that. Mostly I think it's down to poor design of the drains. Mine were totally clogged as you saw.
£50 is a steal!
Did it needed any programing?
@@JJ-jc8yv no none at all, the important part was to get the wipers arms in the right position, so I did a few cycles with the blades off first.
@@EVDIY they were clogged I’m ours also.
Which motor is master and which is slave on UK spec scenic?
Not sure! Partly why I just replaced the pair.
They both have motors & thus no linkages. The wipers go in different directions & thus each needs it's own motor.
Great video. Helped a lot.
Fab. Glad to hear it!
Hi could you shohow thewtrim goes back? A mechanic did my wiper motors, but bowthetrim is not resting and sealed against windscreen, are there clips underneath or do I have to double sided tape it on?
There's no tape. Was a long time ago now (as was your comment - sorry!) But I think it was just clips or screws.
The scuttle and felt padding is a bloody nightmare on Scenic 3s.
@KillieGuy1 Absolutely - and the fact that you have to remove it every time you replace the air filter for a service is SO annoying! We've broken several of the clips - hooray for cable ties 😄
so replacing the wiper motors was the answer then i mean say if its rained hard for weeks as it does in england and has time to dry out and suddenly the wiper motors stop as happened to me i hadnt used the wipers for a couple of weeks then the sun was gkaring onto the window picking out all the dirty marks and solashes etc i pulled back the lever to wash the window and inturn the wipers usually come on automatically but the screen wash jetted up yet no wipers i have took it to a garage they say say they ve stripped it down so those parts you sourced off ebay were they difficult to get ps wish you were my mechanic
There weren't that many out there when I bought mine but there were a few.
I've changed only one motor is there anyway to snyc the two motors together without buying two more, as it still seems to play up
I did hear about a sync process here: www.renaultforums.co.uk/threads/grand-scenic-2010-wiper-motor-fixed.506657/
It’s a terrible design if the water gets blocked it kills the alarm and water pours into the car over the bull head and onto fuse box inside the car just ridiculous
Just clean the scuttle every week, especially the autumn when leaves will fall into it & build up & then rot & break into smaller parts that block.
I cant get mine to go in service mode either its really annoying
It really is!
@@EVDIY My wipers fixed themselves just randomly started working again. It started raining and I instinctively flicked them on then was shocked when they both worked.
Im guessing water got in? I did have to drain the channel at the back
@@adamfryman6789 Sounds like it. You might be lucky and it was only a temporary short rather than permanent damage.
It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it. 😒
They seem unnecessarily complicated, typical Renault.
Yeah. We've had three Scenics now and they've been great until this one. But all prone to water ingress and quirky to fix.
typical any car is there a car out there that doesnt have faults