Star Trek, the next generation episode called “Tapestry.” I know. NERD ALERT! But the point is that if I pull apart or change the earlier stuff in my life, I might not be where I am now and now outside the cult is pretty nice. - Jason
The expected result: What JWs think, we are part of Satan's world lol. The actual result: Because of them, I did learn to use discernment, but NOW I really get to enjoy life. Especially after all the wasted time preparing and/or times for worship and meetings. The taste of freedom now tastes so much sweeter!
or money is power. in IRL if got millions or billions of dollars, and "dont like" someone , can "sue them" your wrong their right? DOSENT MATTER! you bot millions, they only got 1000s, a better way to see it from would be from "hl2dmrp" where if your richer than someone, you can spend money to "break their locks" and "keep them poor" by destroying all money making oppertunitys. hl2dm "break someones locks" is one the most "arsehole things" can do, same as IRL most arece hole thing can do EXPECIALY when its done becuase "you don like them" (this isent counting a class action lawsuit where poor FINALY get ability to get a LITTLE from mammon). if your rich AF and everyone is poor, everyone worships you! .
I was in full time service (fool time service really) for 30 yrs. Always broke, always having a broken down car without A.C. and worn our clothes. Always depending onthe compassion of brothers to eat. This is NOT a happy life!!! The Watchtower Corporation leaders make you feel guilty for trying to improve your finances and secular education. They need you to be broke, dumb and stupid. When I woke up and turned in all my "privileges", I was able to finish my education, start a business and live financially well. I now travel alot, have hobbies, eat anywhere I want, always fill the gas tank, give to charity, and have a car with A.C.!! I no longer have low self esteem and anxiety. The Governing Body lives 100x better than their very own members who are told to be poor and simplify their life. What hypocrites!
Congrats! I’ve had a similar experience. I live in a decent home that’s cared for and all my bills are on time now. Saving for the future. Quality of life 📈 so much happier now! - Jason
I forgot to mention that after I left the org, I found that I could recharge on the weekends and attack my profession during the week with much better energy. As a result, I make about 3x more money than when I was a JW. And I haven’t changed professions. I still own the same small business. I love being free of the org and I’m happier, healthier and even a bit wealthier. Would recommend. 10/10
@@DiffiCULTChildhoodWhich church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1.
Vusi, you are right. Lack of spelling and grammar are common in the JW cult as secular education is condemned by the JW leaders. 2 bawd we as JW cult members fell for this cult.
I disagree with the woman comment I am a woman And a balanced energy woman should have a small business that she does on a casual basis or have money in the bank to walk away and set boundaries Women working full-time makes women super masculine and unattractive to a healthy man…. It also doubles the cost of housing and halved wages for everyone else
I've met plenty of financially secure elders some of them came into the truth through there wives and they had college education and everyone looked up to them and but yes more often then not born ins are poor there is so much hypocrisy in the org. I hate them
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1.
I know of several elders who were well off. They had large houses and always took nice vacations. I found it hilarious when they gave the live a simple life talk.
I can’t tell u how many opportunities I turned down. One of my most bitter moments was as an elder finding out all of it was b.s & how I wasted 30 yrs of missed opportunities. Fortunately I’m young enough to rebound & restart. However, one thing to note: WT for sure care about donations. They care about all $$. Yes, they’ve transitioned from a book publishing to a conglomerate real estate business, but they absolutely tax their members. I say this as a former COBE, Secretary, and Account Servant at both the Circuit & Congregational levels. Several yrs ago, as donations were fleeting, the GB “suggested” annual dedicated donations per congregation across the world. Those “suggested” donations were between $6.75-9.00+/baptized publisher (which includes baptized children). These “suggestions” r voted up upon, but these votes are mere formalities only. These are imposed, which also include taking care of Circuit Overseer’s needs. These donations are 100% guaranteed, + the constant “reminder” to donate & making ppl feel guilty for not donating, & u have a recipe for financial success.
I think you make a really good point. My therapist has told me that I tend to think of issues as “either / or.” But they want to scrape revenue from every direction. - Jason
In the 70’s, I felt sorry for the JW man. On one hand, he was told he was responsible for supporting his family and being the “head” of the family, then on the other hand, they’d expect him to attend all meetings and preaching door-to-door, conventions, and free labor. They never rested. Then 1975 Armageddon was pushed and so what was the purpose of it all if it was all going to be destroyed? It was like living with a split personality religion.
That's the reason why I left the organisation. Growing up, in South Africa, I saw the effects of apartheid on my parents. Father had to quit his job as a government police officer in 1977, the year I was born. He left, because working for a state security then as a black man, was regarded as spy or state agent among anti apartheid activist. It was dangerous, for his life and his family, as he could have been killed or our family home could have been torched with fire by anti apartheid activists in our community. He left his work and accepted the "truth" in the early 1980s. Armed only with Grade 7 primary education, as it was common with that generation, I saw him struggling to provide for his family. Mother with Grade 7 education, ended up having to work for some Jewish families in Johannesburg as a cleaner. After completing high school in 1995, I insisted on pursuing university education. Elders in our congregation had issues with my career goal. Thanks, God there were free government bursaries, that paid towards my education. After completing bachelors honours, I worked for government. It became an issue in the congregation, I was seen as a bad example among young brothers and sisters. I got an opportunity to work for the state in Japan. When, I arrived there I was surprised to see how developed Japan is and large pull of the middle class. I associated with a Japanese congregation. I was surprised to see many Japanese brothers struggling econimically. Others with university education, opted pioneering. In that congratulations, 90% of publishers were full time pioneers. I visited some brothers in Seoul, South Korea one summer holidays, it was the same thing. Everyone, was a pioneer. One elder could not understand why I should go on a vacation instead of doing field service. Back in Japan, I travelling overseer told me on my face that I should return to South Africa and use my talents in full-time service. Out of frustration and disappointment, I went to a local university, enrolled for Masters degree, when my contract ended I returned home and got a good offer. I last attended JW meetings in the Spring ( May ) of 2010. I never returned to the organisation. My parents are in their 80s and late 70s. I am taking care of them, financially. Yes, they receive social security, but with this inflation, it is not enough to cover their medical bill and other essential needs. Had, I listened to the WatchTown with it's teachings, where would I be, with my parents aging situation?
Take a vacation?? How dare you! The entire structure of the organization & the pressure they put on members to limit their finances insane. SO happy you pursued your education! Love that story, thank you for sharing! -Falon
Fellow South African here - what this person says is true. My mom passed recently in a home for the elderly run by the Red Cross (remember, we were never allowed to donate to these "charities, especially if a "cross" is involved). Sadly, I wasn't in a position to support her as I would have liked to. If it wasn't for her late "worldly" husband's pension in addition to her own I shudder to think .....
Wow! What a story. I always find it interesting that when they depict "pioneers" in Japan or South Korea, they always depict them driving very fancy cars. I always used to wonder how they afford them but it turns out it's all just for show.
Back in the 70s and 80s I was told to be out in service most of the week and to work only part-time work preferably self-employment with no benefits.Sadly lots of older jws today live on social security with no retirement benefits.Thankfully my husband and I got jobs that had retirement benefits Now in our elderly years we are living comfortably.
If they keep you poor, you can't take them to court. When you work for them, there is no health insurance, no Social Security, no 401K, no life insurance, no long-term disability insurance, and no short-term disability insurance. McDonald's has a better benefits plan than Watchtower. The salary is barely anything. Basically, it was a slave labor camp. Legally, they get away with this due to a vow of poverty. But, Watchtower can pay 100s of millions of dollars on commercial real estate. Then, when some of their slaves leave after a year, the Governing Body questions why they are leaving. There needs to be legal pushback on this. It is disgusting!
Spot on! I've taken 2 Elders to court and won over financial fraud. Breach of contract and their clients backed me. Excellent workmanship poor and incompetent leadership. Big shots in KH but pretty sorry in front of a Judge.
It's important to know, that the world leaders will take over religion Their power, and their wealth. Registered in Revelation 18. The meretrice Will be devastated and naked ( means all their wealth will be gone) That's called Justice.
Living paycheck to paycheck also has impact on the mind. You are so focused on immediate concerns and look forward to the end. No retirement plans, parents are getting older and might need expensive care, kids have no long term goals. If you have money saved for the future and long term goals you are in no rush to want to see the end come.
Such a great video Jason and Falon! I just find it interesting that that in their stories ("experiences") each time someone is short by $60 for their rent, Jehovah only provides exactly $60 no more.
You are better & easier 2 control if a poorer uneducated person. What will JW do when the KH close? It is coming! Grid went down in Utah for awhile so TH-cam and videos will not be working along with all other processes.
I remember a skit at a circuit assembly where these two young brothers decided to golf 18 holes after service every Saturday and invited brother elder to join them. Brother elder crunched the hours of 18 holes compared to Saturday service hours and it was decided they should only golf one or two times a month. This is their thinking
Yes ......its a vow of poverty ....a sacred service to god ....thats what a millionaire Elder who was vice president of Fifth Third Bank told me ......😂😂😂
This is a brilliant idea. Create all the meetings,assemblies and conventions that they can so the members can take off as much time off work as they can. Some even lose their jobs doing so. That way you can keep them in because they will think they only can rely on the governing body.
I live in England, Essex, just down the road from the new bethel, iv seen with my own eyes elders in a congregation get to take early retirement from well paid jobs so they can now commute to the bethel, they bang on about how wonderful it is, I’m standing there as a father of two young girls in my 40s now, thinking erm… I did the whole work for myself, clean windows didn’t need a work career because the end was just around the corner, now I still rent, il never get on the property ladder, and il have to work till il drop, what a mug iv been all my life, I could scream, cry and just finish myself off, it’s a lonely place when you wake up and smell the coffee of Reality!!
Thank you for sharing that. Really. Sometimes we all feel super behind. You’re in decent company. In our 40’s. Just finally coming out of the financial black hole. You’re out. Proud of you for that and for your girls. It can get so much better than you imagine in just a few years. 💛- J
Hi friend! Yes, we understand how you feel & I PROMISE, you are not alone!! Waking up from the organization almost feels like waking up from a long coma... as if the world has kept moving on without you & now you're far behind. But don't you dare give up. I know you've got a fire inside of you somewhere, or you wouldn't have found our video. Use it. Be kind to yourself & show those sweet girls of yours that their dad didn't fold when the pressure was on. There is a large group of us cheering you on!! One day at a time, my friend! Start by considering some emotional trauma support. It has done wonders for us. We're proud of you! 😊 -Falon You can reach out to NHS 111 & select option 2. Or, you can call Samaritans on 116 123 (24 hours, 365 days a year) - calls are free and confidential and will not appear on your phone bill text ‘Shout’ to 85258 to speak to a trained volunteer via text (24 hours, 365 days a year) - texts are free and confidential
Yes I understand. They stole my military career with all those lies. Thank goodness I was the only family member to be duped. Mom and siblings was having none of it. My mom shook her head when I joined because she knew my potential .
That's what always made me feel 🤔 out in service, handing the driver a dollar (back in the 80s) for gas. But the next time a different 'passenger' would drive & the dollars would go to them. When it was MY turn to drive, I would tell my 'brothers & sisters' to keep their money, it's my pleasure & devoted to Jehovah. This didn't bring me closer to them, it made them angry or jealous. THEN, I was df & went to a trade school, earned some degrees on top of it & returned after 9/11 scared the crap out of me. After reinstatement, I was out in services as much as possible & said "You know, we're just passing the same dollars back & forth." I was never a popular sister. I asked questions, I searched for my own answers, but I also expected the elders or their wives to help. They couldn't because they had no idea. I would study & find different answers & get stink eye & whispered about. RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. No, I need more than these sheeple.
I think keeping people poor is one that is also seen in many abusive relationships, it is a basic step to keep the victim isolated and dependent on the abuser, it is much more difficult to leave even when you realize that the person is abusive to actually take the necessary steps to leave and start healing
So you can never educate your children . , or hire a lawyer .or learn how to learn . They got top dollar for Brooklyn , because it was so well maintained . It's always easier to kick pleabs when they're down .
My father was a JW and didn't want to buy a house but my mother who didn't participate, she led the household. Then they bought a house and didn't die in poverty if my father was in charge. I watched my parents who as myself, an immigrant, struggle financially. Because they didn't buy me much I started working at age 13 in a dental office. I never subscribed to JW as my parents joined a different Charles Taze Russell organization where everyone was well off. So I grew up in that. I didn't want to go to college because I was introduced to dental technology at a young age. I went to school for it, worked several jobs and ended up having my own business. I bought my own house as my father disinherited me. I am retired, live comfortably, pay bills and house is paid for because something deep inside told me being a JW was not working for God but for men whose position glorified their personal pride. These people don't read the real Bible, they pick and choose which scriptures support their agenda, and dismiss the rich characters in the Bible who were blessed and had much to offer. JW's use their own interpretation of the Bible, which is poor, corrupt and distorted. God gave people common sense and their job is to strip it away. Evil satanic organization that used religion to push their personal power agenda, ruining people's lives, robbing them of personal prosperity leaving people needy, dependent and disfunctional. It's for the lazy and the spoon fed but don't realize the good runs out when they limit their potential. It should be none of JW organization's business what job or career people choose to fit the gifts God gave them. They use guilt, fear and intimidation to manipulate people into being their slaves, and people fall for it. Such a shame.
Thank you Falon for keeping your faith and not turning your back on God. It's beautiful to see that what you disagree with is the manipulation and self-centredness of the Godless and cruel organization of JW's. I'm only listening to this because of you. I think people who leave and label themselves as atheists are the most pathetic people. I find them a danger to humanity.
Hi Michael! Thank you for joining me. I totally agree that the organization has some master manipulators in it, but I wouldn't describe those who've turned to atheism as pathetic either. Many of them, including my co-host & life-long friend, are ppl I care about & respect. I don't know all the factors that made them leave Christianity & I cannot judge. What I can do is share my story in the hopes someone out there might escape the organization with their free will intact so they can find the same peace & true joy that I feel. (Because it's an amazing feeling to wake up to every day!) Thank you again 😊 -Falon
Thank you Falon for your thoughtful and refreshing response. I do not think we need to know all the factors that made a person to turn his back on God to understand him. For me, it betrays a lack of spirituality. It highlights the fact that there was no fear of God In the individual, in the first place. His being there was possibly only window dressing. The true mettle of an individual is marked by the unpleasant events in his life and how he reacts to it. To throw away your faith in God because of nine heartless and self-serving individuals who would defend and protect their interests at the cost of the suffering of millions, strikes me as pathetic. I was raised in the religion. Spent more than 40 years in it. Sacrificed everything and was hurt and beaten in every way imaginable. However, I have come to understand that God was not there in the first place and I'm determined to find him. And I think I have. I think of the organization with great revulsion because it has ruined countless lives at the expense of its own interest. When a person chooses to abandon God, his condition becomes worse than the organization it criticizes.
This is the reason I hope my parents never wake up. They’re around 70, been scraping by their entire lives, always pegged their value to their org service and definitely didn’t save for old age. If they woke up now it might be too much regret for them to bear, on top of shunning two of their children for decades. Fortunately one of my sisters is still in, so they’ll have someone to live with.
I often think this about my dad... As much as I'd love for him to be able to see the Org for what it truly is, I also realize that the familiarity of it all insulates him from such crushing regret. Thank you for watching! -Falon
What I had noticed by far it was elders that had own businesses and did well. In Australia one has to go to Uni to get trades not like it used to be and that is frowned on by WT though they do have what is called Taff a by pass to Uni though not regarded as the best option. WT wants workers for their building projects that is why they pushed trades but trades these days pay a lot and more likely to get employment than all the Uni graduate lawyers.
Education might disrupt their business model: exploiting young folks who are grateful to get "three hots & a cot", serving at Bethel for free. I want my 250k back.
You make a valid point. It’s not like that everywhere. And it’s certainly a regional thing. I have been to a $3mil KH in Southern California and a $1k carport used as a KH in Mexico. But in general, it seems to me that poor witnesses are docile witnesses that are more willing to listen to leadership and still donate and volunteer to build properties for the Org. - Jason
Ullswater and Buttermere are places in English lake district with quient images, these properties are nowhere near the lakes so I reckon they're trying to generate an image. Yes you pronounce the names correctly.
This was one of the issues I had with this organization when I was in they looked down on people who wanted to pursue a higher education. I was told there was no sense in getting a higher education because we were living in the last days and Armageddon is right around the corner and this over 40 years ago. 🤦♀️🤷🏼♀️
Absolutely. And now, the decisions that were made back then (related to education, career choices, savings, etc.) based on those teachings, are causing such financial & emotional struggles, especially for elderly witnesses! Breaks my heart. ☹️💔 -Falon
JW's who do well, were doing well before they drank the JW kool-aid. They got use to a level of affluence and see no reason to give that up. And congregations often depend on their wealthier members from time to time so they also enjoy the elevated status.
In my state a college education requires someone to study biology which includes evolution and you must take a course on cultural sensitivity and diversity or gay or Lisbon studies.
Just another reason for people to do their due diligence when approached by someone trying to draw you into a "religious" organization. It will not just affect a persons life in the short term. People need to step back and critically evaluate the facts of the group they are about to commit too. I remember very few members that were actually well off. Those that were doing financially well were given the side-eye. As if they were not "reliable" or "trustworthy" members.
I am Catholic, but I used to be a tutor for a JW kid. His dad was a doctor in physical therapy. Everyone in that family was incredibly intelligent. I think the kid I worked with would have woken up at some point. He would ask me questions about my opinions on different topics. I never openly contradicted his faith, but I would invite him to think things through critically and not be afraid to ask questions and seek answers. I hope he is doing well now.
@@DiffiCULTChildhood I’ve known several JWs over the years. I don’t agree with a lot of their beliefs, but I understand their desire to do God’s work. Plus, I can appreciate how difficult it would be to come from being brainwashed to having your entire world view turned upside down. That happens to everyone on some level when we’re forced out of the sphere our families form around us. My family did a decent job preparing me for that stage. I wanted to do the same for this kid. After I attended a couple things at the family’s Kingdom Hall, I realized that if someone didn’t invite him to ask the major questions, the religion would do him a huge disservice in the future. Especially if he married and couldn’t trust himself to make decisions for himself and his family. The organization was giving him the answers one spoonful at a time. I didn’t see discussion or discord at the events I attended, but pure parroting of the Watchtower. I can see the good intentions of the organization, but I do worry about the fruit it produces.
Watch this video on there interest in companies they supposedly condem ! " Hidden from Jehovah's Witnesses video 8-A Smoking Gun updated." Jason Zelda.
I really appreciated Miss Falons commentary on asking for it all. We are All children of God. The Watchtower tries to convince us that we are only friends of God only if we suck up to the organization. Basically indentured servants
Thank you friend for the feedback! And yes, in the relationship I have with Him now, I'm not fearful to ask for anything & everything I need! It's a beautiful freedom! -Falon
I am Catholic, in our parish students sitting for their final Year 12 are asked to stand so they could be blessed to their well in their exams so that they can gain good entries to universities. Further education is encouraged. All of my three of my children have double degrees and well paid jobs, my youngest is now studying her second degree, Psychology, and moved back home so she can focus on her studies whilst working part-time.
They love to put fear and guilt into members , an elders wife told me that my son would be excepted immediately if he applied for bethel but a young woman most likely would be turned down her daughter had been rejected so she had an idea of what they wanted Great video thank you ❤
YES! WOMEN do the vast majority of the preaching work but are entitled to only a fraction of the "privileges" offered to brothers. So disrespectful. (Thank you for watching! -Falon 😁)
I don't know if things have changed but in West Sussex England, the more wealthy members are looked up to, not down at, especially those who have their own businesses and are elders ....
@@DiffiCULTChildhood i remember ask jeeves too my moms would use it and think its how i learned you dont repeat words when searching. for examply out of the blue you would serach for "white broccli vs green" and NOT "white broccli vs green broccli" (dont repeat words when asking a pc a question) "white broccli" is califlower., just using it as an easy example.
You need to be corrected, it is not the self analysis that kills (though it can) it is being analyzed BY THE OTHERS (their opinon of you; which is hen-pecked to death). They are told to be a refreshing rain, and their mothering-smothering is actually pelting hail that kills you; and then narcissism scapegoat gaslighting takes over to say to you (and to Job) it is your own doing. Lastly like the trinity or triad of 3 Elders there to DF sick Job, they will blame Satan, not themselves abusing you.
The WT conducter at my old hall would be up on the podium preaching about how we should strive to live simple and not try to pursue money or careers. Meanwhile he owns a multi million dollar construction company with 3 locations around the state and takes international trips twice a year. His wife takes her Louis Vuitton bags in service, mind you to the poorest of territories and sees no issue with it.
Could you guys please share that IBSA link? I went to the website but I’m not seeing what you’re speaking of. None of this surprises me though. After I learned of their affiliation with the United Nations It became so apparent to me the outright hypocrisy. And I’d like to add after leaving the organization about a decade ago my life is FLOURISHING! My husband and I share 5 kids, we have built an amazing life of wealth and happiness NEVERMIND! I found the link!! Thanks
You blew my mind I knew about building Kingdom Halls and how they use the sheeple to do that but I had never heard of this. Now to be fair I left when I was 20 the appeal of the wife was way more enticing then believing in fiction. But it all makes more sense. They were grooming me to do this saying I should learn how to build things cause I was good at it. And jehovah could use a builder in his congregation.
Keep adherents poor like a person keeps a watch fog not well fed so it becomes mean. Also, it knows from who it gets its food and knows not where else to go to get food.
15:00 your father on call? busting my gut laughing. Like loyal Uriah who gets his wife screwed by the GB king David, and then killed deliberately. The millionaire poor-to-rich JW janitor service here in Kenosha; their mother left during meetings all the time for it. Yes for their own self-made janitor service, left meeting to go do it. They would change clothes in the Hall bathroom during the meeting. Or say they got the talk lecture (and their WT is already studied). They must have known exactly how to interpret that WT article so as not to be there with the rest of us. In fact Jehovah gave my very own bible study to me (versus those handed to me by mom; the children of her own study) because the man walked in, and Mizz Elderette Janitor handed him a WT on her way out (mid meeting janitor appt); 3 days later all by chance my calling on THEIR house starting a study with the whole family on Wednesday. No one in my Hall thought i should teach MY VERSION of Jehovah, but typical JW nosing they all got baptized waiting for hubby/daddy to drop dead at armageddon for his tempor (though always there together as family), and when wife threw hubby out all were DFd. Hubby came back with new wife and fathered a new family. He died before mom did in 2020. Point is Elderette acted like she brought him in handing a mag while she goes out to run her janitor service of OTHER JWs not at the meeting because theyll go (they say) to the other later meeting. It's all games. Reminds me of my neighbor who skipped the scan at WalMart and said he's pay for it next week (if Jesus doesnt come before then because he's getting raptured and asks everyone else if theyre right with God).
I’m laughing so hard I have told my husband so many times everyone was a ww or a janitor. I helped my friends mom at janitor work often. Personally I let a full scholarship go. I was going to preach the good news. Makes me sick to my stomach.
The ‘Governing Body’ should use the example of the Mormons and have their own university and then their Brothers and Sisters would make more money and enact the habit of 10% giving. 😳😀
N you the b true I been with the JWs since A child and the his is absolutely not true. But whatsvtruevthatvthe enjoy has misled many and they are attacking the JWS with many lies, fillings in of A prophecy. No one is perfect right so xinwill stand by loving me people the JWs. I got hobbies and don't have time ge attacking good people not perfect like everyone in is not perfect, but can waste energy on what I can tell you not true they never encouraged anyone to be poor.
About the dumbest thing I ever heard. Just smearing and deception. “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.”-Matthew 5:11
Well, Nick, if you were fortunate enough not to have this experience, then congratulations. That is wonderful! But based on the overall feedback on the subject, there are many, many JW’s that can relate to this topic & deserve to feel heard and seen. I appreciate your feedback either way. Be blessed! -Falon 😊
@@vestland3877 By far most of our wives are spiritual women who love their husbands. Of course wives want stability and husbands work hard to provide that. The heart is desperate and can be treacherous as the Bible says. Men and women must keep their guard no matter who they are.
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I often wonder where I'd be in life if the organization didn't influence my thinking for 20 years
Star Trek, the next generation episode called “Tapestry.” I know. NERD ALERT!
But the point is that if I pull apart or change the earlier stuff in my life, I might not be where I am now and now outside the cult is pretty nice.
- Jason
The expected result: What JWs think, we are part of Satan's world lol.
The actual result: Because of them, I did learn to use discernment, but NOW I really get to enjoy life. Especially after all the wasted time preparing and/or times for worship and meetings. The taste of freedom now tastes so much sweeter!
They want their members to stay poor because getting rich defeats one of their core teachings, the Paradise teaching.
or money is power. in IRL if got millions or billions of dollars, and "dont like" someone , can "sue them" your wrong their right? DOSENT MATTER! you bot millions, they only got 1000s, a better way to see it from would be from "hl2dmrp" where if your richer than someone, you can spend money to "break their locks" and "keep them poor" by destroying all money making oppertunitys. hl2dm "break someones locks" is one the most "arsehole things" can do, same as IRL most arece hole thing can do EXPECIALY when its done becuase "you don like them" (this isent counting a class action lawsuit where poor FINALY get ability to get a LITTLE from mammon). if your rich AF and everyone is poor, everyone worships you! .
Like demorats
I was in full time service (fool time service really) for 30 yrs. Always broke, always having a broken down car without A.C. and worn our clothes. Always depending onthe compassion of brothers to eat. This is NOT a happy life!!!
The Watchtower Corporation leaders make you feel guilty for trying to improve your finances and secular education. They need you to be broke, dumb and stupid.
When I woke up and turned in all my "privileges", I was able to finish my education, start a business and live financially well. I now travel alot, have hobbies, eat anywhere I want, always fill the gas tank, give to charity, and have a car with A.C.!! I no longer have low self esteem and anxiety.
The Governing Body lives 100x better than their very own members who are told to be poor and simplify their life. What hypocrites!
Congrats! I’ve had a similar experience. I live in a decent home that’s cared for and all my bills are on time now. Saving for the future. Quality of life 📈 so much happier now! - Jason
One CANNOT underestimate the power of AC!!! Glad you made it out, stay cool my friend! 😉-Falon
Yes.
2- Timothy 3: 1-5 applyes very well to GB and the WT society.
Massive control,and Greed.
Their behavior is opposing Christ teachings.
I,m out.
I hope you get out of that evil cult
I forgot to mention that after I left the org, I found that I could recharge on the weekends and attack my profession during the week with much better energy. As a result, I make about 3x more money than when I was a JW. And I haven’t changed professions. I still own the same small business. I love being free of the org and I’m happier, healthier and even a bit wealthier. Would recommend. 10/10
Now THATS a Google review! 🤣
@@DiffiCULTChildhoodWhich church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1.
@@vusimngomezulu2500Lack of education is always apparent in spelling and grammar.
Vusi, you are right. Lack of spelling and grammar are common in the JW cult as secular education is condemned by the JW leaders.
2 bawd we as JW cult members fell for this cult.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Poor means dependant and compliant, its what the family system does to women if they don't get a job.
I disagree with the woman comment
I am a woman
And a balanced energy woman should have a small business that she does on a casual basis or have money in the bank to walk away and set boundaries
Women working full-time makes women super masculine and unattractive to a healthy man….
It also doubles the cost of housing and halved wages for everyone else
I've met plenty of financially secure elders some of them came into the truth through there wives and they had college education and everyone looked up to them and but yes more often then not born ins are poor there is so much hypocrisy in the org. I hate them
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1.
Keeping them poor may backfire on them. No money, no donations.
I know of several elders who were well off. They had large houses and always took nice vacations. I found it hilarious when they gave the live a simple life talk.
I lived through this poor JW world. It was one of the reasons that I left. Thank you.
I can’t tell u how many opportunities I turned down. One of my most bitter moments was as an elder finding out all of it was b.s & how I wasted 30 yrs of missed opportunities. Fortunately I’m young enough to rebound & restart.
However, one thing to note: WT for sure care about donations. They care about all $$. Yes, they’ve transitioned from a book publishing to a conglomerate real estate business, but they absolutely tax their members.
I say this as a former COBE, Secretary, and Account Servant at both the Circuit & Congregational levels. Several yrs ago, as donations were fleeting, the GB “suggested” annual dedicated donations per congregation across the world. Those “suggested” donations were between $6.75-9.00+/baptized publisher (which includes baptized children).
These “suggestions” r voted up upon, but these votes are mere formalities only. These are imposed, which also include taking care of Circuit Overseer’s needs. These donations are 100% guaranteed, + the constant “reminder” to donate & making ppl feel guilty for not donating, & u have a recipe for financial success.
I think you make a really good point. My therapist has told me that I tend to think of issues as “either / or.” But they want to scrape revenue from every direction. - Jason
In the 70’s, I felt sorry for the JW man. On one hand, he was told he was responsible for supporting his family and being the “head” of the family, then on the other hand, they’d expect him to attend all meetings and preaching door-to-door, conventions, and free labor. They never rested. Then 1975 Armageddon was pushed and so what was the purpose of it all if it was all going to be destroyed? It was like living with a split personality religion.
That's the reason why I left the organisation. Growing up, in South Africa, I saw the effects of apartheid on my parents.
Father had to quit his job as a government police officer in 1977, the year I was born. He left, because working for a state security then as a black man, was regarded as spy or state agent among anti apartheid activist.
It was dangerous, for his life and his family, as he could have been killed or our family home could have been torched with fire by anti apartheid activists in our community. He left his work and accepted the "truth" in the early 1980s.
Armed only with Grade 7 primary education, as it was common with that generation, I saw him struggling to provide for his family. Mother with Grade 7 education, ended up having to work for some Jewish families in Johannesburg as a cleaner.
After completing high school in 1995, I insisted on pursuing university education. Elders in our congregation had issues with my career goal.
Thanks, God there were free government bursaries, that paid towards my education.
After completing bachelors honours, I worked for government. It became an issue in the congregation, I was seen as a bad example among young brothers and sisters.
I got an opportunity to work for the state in Japan. When, I arrived there I was surprised to see how developed Japan is and large pull of the middle class.
I associated with a Japanese congregation. I was surprised to see many Japanese brothers struggling econimically. Others with university education, opted pioneering.
In that congratulations, 90% of publishers were full time pioneers.
I visited some brothers in Seoul, South Korea one summer holidays, it was the same thing. Everyone, was a pioneer.
One elder could not understand why I should go on a vacation instead of doing field service.
Back in Japan, I travelling overseer told me on my face that I should return to South Africa and use my talents in full-time service.
Out of frustration and disappointment, I went to a local university, enrolled for Masters degree, when my contract ended I returned home and got a good offer.
I last attended JW meetings in the Spring ( May ) of 2010. I never returned to the organisation.
My parents are in their 80s and late 70s. I am taking care of them, financially.
Yes, they receive social security, but with this inflation, it is not enough to cover their medical bill and other essential needs.
Had, I listened to the WatchTown with it's teachings, where would I be, with my parents aging situation?
Take a vacation?? How dare you! The entire structure of the organization & the pressure they put on members to limit their finances insane. SO happy you pursued your education! Love that story, thank you for sharing! -Falon
Fellow South African here - what this person says is true. My mom passed recently in a home for the elderly run by the Red Cross (remember, we were never allowed to donate to these "charities, especially if a "cross" is involved). Sadly, I wasn't in a position to support her as I would have liked to. If it wasn't for her late "worldly" husband's pension in addition to her own I shudder to think .....
Young jws need to get a good job and save up for future retirement.The governing body is not going to care and support you in your older years.
Wow! What a story. I always find it interesting that when they depict "pioneers" in Japan or South Korea, they always depict them driving very fancy cars. I always used to wonder how they afford them but it turns out it's all just for show.
Back in the 70s and 80s I was told to be out in service most of the week and to work only part-time work preferably self-employment with no benefits.Sadly lots of older jws today live on social security with no retirement benefits.Thankfully my husband and I got jobs that had retirement benefits Now in our elderly years we are living comfortably.
If they keep you poor, you can't take them to court.
When you work for them, there is no health insurance, no Social Security, no 401K, no life insurance, no long-term disability insurance, and no short-term disability insurance. McDonald's has a better benefits plan than Watchtower. The salary is barely anything. Basically, it was a slave labor camp. Legally, they get away with this due to a vow of poverty.
But, Watchtower can pay 100s of millions of dollars on commercial real estate.
Then, when some of their slaves leave after a year, the Governing Body questions why they are leaving.
There needs to be legal pushback on this. It is disgusting!
Spot on! I've taken 2 Elders to court and won over financial fraud. Breach of contract and their clients backed me. Excellent workmanship poor and incompetent leadership. Big shots in KH but pretty sorry in front of a Judge.
It's important to know, that the world leaders will take over religion
Their power, and their wealth.
Registered in
Revelation 18.
The meretrice Will be devastated and naked ( means all their wealth will be gone)
That's called Justice.
And WT is included
Living paycheck to paycheck also has impact on the mind. You are so focused on immediate concerns and look forward to the end. No retirement plans, parents are getting older and might need expensive care, kids have no long term goals. If you have money saved for the future and long term goals you are in no rush to want to see the end come.
100%
They sure don't mind taking your money if you've got it, though. Money bad unless you give it to the org.
How can the luxury apartments be tax-exempt? How is selling apartments to wealthy people a charitable act?
What you are saying about poverty and JWS is absolutely correct 🎉❤
Such a great video Jason and Falon! I just find it interesting that that in their stories ("experiences") each time someone is short by $60 for their rent, Jehovah only provides exactly $60 no more.
You are better & easier 2 control if a poorer uneducated person. What will JW do when the KH close? It is coming! Grid went down in Utah for awhile so TH-cam and videos will not be working along with all other processes.
I remember a skit at a circuit assembly where these two young brothers decided to golf 18 holes after service every Saturday and invited brother elder to join them. Brother elder crunched the hours of 18 holes compared to Saturday service hours and it was decided they should only golf one or two times a month. This is their thinking
Guess they can kiss that green jacket goodbye 👋 😂
Yes ......its a vow of poverty ....a sacred service to god ....thats what a millionaire Elder who was vice president of Fifth Third Bank told me ......😂😂😂
🤔🤔🤔🤣
Omgosh. I know of an elder higher up at Fifth Third that was wealthy here in Florida. Hhhmmm
This is a brilliant idea. Create all the meetings,assemblies and conventions that they can so the members can take off as much time off work as they can. Some even lose their jobs doing so. That way you can keep them in because they will think they only can rely on the governing body.
I live in England, Essex, just down the road from the new bethel, iv seen with my own eyes elders in a congregation get to take early retirement from well paid jobs so they can now commute to the bethel, they bang on about how wonderful it is, I’m standing there as a father of two young girls in my 40s now, thinking erm… I did the whole work for myself, clean windows didn’t need a work career because the end was just around the corner, now I still rent, il never get on the property ladder, and il have to work till il drop, what a mug iv been all my life, I could scream, cry and just finish myself off, it’s a lonely place when you wake up and smell the coffee of Reality!!
Thank you for sharing that. Really. Sometimes we all feel super behind. You’re in decent company. In our 40’s. Just finally coming out of the financial black hole. You’re out. Proud of you for that and for your girls.
It can get so much better than you imagine in just a few years. 💛- J
Hi friend! Yes, we understand how you feel & I PROMISE, you are not alone!! Waking up from the organization almost feels like waking up from a long coma... as if the world has kept moving on without you & now you're far behind. But don't you dare give up. I know you've got a fire inside of you somewhere, or you wouldn't have found our video. Use it. Be kind to yourself & show those sweet girls of yours that their dad didn't fold when the pressure was on. There is a large group of us cheering you on!! One day at a time, my friend! Start by considering some emotional trauma support. It has done wonders for us. We're proud of you! 😊 -Falon
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Yes I understand. They stole my military career with all those lies. Thank goodness I was the only family member to be duped. Mom and siblings was having none of it. My mom shook her head when I joined because she knew my potential .
That's what always made me feel 🤔 out in service, handing the driver a dollar (back in the 80s) for gas. But the next time a different 'passenger' would drive & the dollars would go to them. When it was MY turn to drive, I would tell my 'brothers & sisters' to keep their money, it's my pleasure & devoted to Jehovah. This didn't bring me closer to them, it made them angry or jealous. THEN, I was df & went to a trade school, earned some degrees on top of it & returned after 9/11 scared the crap out of me.
After reinstatement, I was out in services as much as possible & said "You know, we're just passing the same dollars back & forth."
I was never a popular sister. I asked questions, I searched for my own answers, but I also expected the elders or their wives to help. They couldn't because they had no idea. I would study & find different answers & get stink eye & whispered about. RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
No, I need more than these sheeple.
I think keeping people poor is one that is also seen in many abusive relationships, it is a basic step to keep the victim isolated and dependent on the abuser, it is much more difficult to leave even when you realize that the person is abusive to actually take the necessary steps to leave and start healing
So you can never educate your children . , or hire a lawyer .or learn how to learn . They got top dollar for Brooklyn , because it was so well maintained . It's always easier to kick pleabs when they're down .
My father was a JW and didn't want to buy a house but my mother who didn't participate, she led the household. Then they bought a house and didn't die in poverty if my father was in charge. I watched my parents who as myself, an immigrant, struggle financially. Because they didn't buy me much I started working at age 13 in a dental office. I never subscribed to JW as my parents joined a different Charles Taze Russell organization where everyone was well off. So I grew up in that. I didn't want to go to college because I was introduced to dental technology at a young age. I went to school for it, worked several jobs and ended up having my own business. I bought my own house as my father disinherited me. I am retired, live comfortably, pay bills and house is paid for because something deep inside told me being a JW was not working for God but for men whose position glorified their personal pride. These people don't read the real Bible, they pick and choose which scriptures support their agenda, and dismiss the rich characters in the Bible who were blessed and had much to offer. JW's use their own interpretation of the Bible, which is poor, corrupt and distorted. God gave people common sense and their job is to strip it away. Evil satanic organization that used religion to push their personal power agenda, ruining people's lives, robbing them of personal prosperity leaving people needy, dependent and disfunctional. It's for the lazy and the spoon fed but don't realize the good runs out when they limit their potential.
It should be none of JW organization's business what job or career people choose to fit the gifts God gave them. They use guilt, fear and intimidation to manipulate people into being their slaves, and people fall for it. Such a shame.
Thank you Falon for keeping your faith and not turning your back on God. It's beautiful to see that what you disagree with is the manipulation and self-centredness of the Godless and cruel organization of JW's. I'm only listening to this because of you. I think people who leave and label themselves as atheists are the most pathetic people. I find them a danger to humanity.
I think a lot of people feel that way. And personally, I only watch this for Falon too. - Jason
Hi Michael! Thank you for joining me. I totally agree that the organization has some master manipulators in it, but I wouldn't describe those who've turned to atheism as pathetic either. Many of them, including my co-host & life-long friend, are ppl I care about & respect. I don't know all the factors that made them leave Christianity & I cannot judge. What I can do is share my story in the hopes someone out there might escape the organization with their free will intact so they can find the same peace & true joy that I feel. (Because it's an amazing feeling to wake up to every day!) Thank you again 😊 -Falon
Thank you Falon for your thoughtful and refreshing response. I do not think we need to know all the factors that made a person to turn his back on God to understand him. For me, it betrays a lack of spirituality. It highlights the fact that there was no fear of God In the individual, in the first place. His being there was possibly only window dressing. The true mettle of an individual is marked by the unpleasant events in his life and how he reacts to it. To throw away your faith in God because of nine heartless and self-serving individuals who would defend and protect their interests at the cost of the suffering of millions, strikes me as pathetic. I was raised in the religion. Spent more than 40 years in it. Sacrificed everything and was hurt and beaten in every way imaginable. However, I have come to understand that God was not there in the first place and I'm determined to find him. And I think I have. I think of the organization with great revulsion because it has ruined countless lives at the expense of its own interest. When a person chooses to abandon God, his condition becomes worse than the organization it criticizes.
This is the reason I hope my parents never wake up. They’re around 70, been scraping by their entire lives, always pegged their value to their org service and definitely didn’t save for old age. If they woke up now it might be too much regret for them to bear, on top of shunning two of their children for decades. Fortunately one of my sisters is still in, so they’ll have someone to live with.
I often think this about my dad... As much as I'd love for him to be able to see the Org for what it truly is, I also realize that the familiarity of it all insulates him from such crushing regret. Thank you for watching! -Falon
What I had noticed by far it was elders that had own businesses and did well. In Australia one has to go to Uni to get trades not like it used to be and that is frowned on by WT though they do have what is called Taff a by pass to Uni though not regarded as the best option. WT wants workers for their building projects that is why they pushed trades but trades these days pay a lot and more likely to get employment than all the Uni graduate lawyers.
Education might disrupt their business model: exploiting young folks who are grateful to get "three hots & a cot", serving at Bethel for free. I want my 250k back.
Hey Falon! I know you from Woodward Oklahoma. I am out to. Just in the last few years. It is so cool to finally see someone I know from my past
🤔 Im not sure what (or who?) Brady is? But I'm old and forgetful, so you can email me at exjwchildhood@gmail.com
Must have missed the memo down here most of leaders wealthy and in business its the few 'faithful' that stayed poor.
You make a valid point. It’s not like that everywhere. And it’s certainly a regional thing. I have been to a $3mil KH in Southern California and a $1k carport used as a KH in Mexico.
But in general, it seems to me that poor witnesses are docile witnesses that are more willing to listen to leadership and still donate and volunteer to build properties for the Org. - Jason
Ullswater and Buttermere are places in English lake district with quient images, these properties are nowhere near the lakes so I reckon they're trying to generate an image. Yes you pronounce the names correctly.
This was one of the issues I had with this organization when I was in they looked down on people who wanted to pursue a higher education. I was told there was no sense in getting a higher education because we were living in the last days and Armageddon is right around the corner and this over 40 years ago. 🤦♀️🤷🏼♀️
Absolutely. And now, the decisions that were made back then (related to education, career choices, savings, etc.) based on those teachings, are causing such financial & emotional struggles, especially for elderly witnesses! Breaks my heart. ☹️💔 -Falon
I will post some info on the Watchtower's investment in Tobacco companies, Armement,soft ware Liguor etc.
JW's who do well, were doing well before they drank the JW kool-aid. They got use to a level of affluence and see no reason to give that up. And congregations often depend on their wealthier members from time to time so they also enjoy the elevated status.
In my state a college education requires someone to study biology which includes evolution and you must take a course on cultural sensitivity and diversity or gay or Lisbon studies.
Just another reason for people to do their due diligence when approached by someone trying to draw you into a "religious" organization. It will not just affect a persons life in the short term. People need to step back and critically evaluate the facts of the group they are about to commit too. I remember very few members that were actually well off. Those that were doing financially well were given the side-eye. As if they were not "reliable" or "trustworthy" members.
Soon a lot of JW's will be living in their cars, working hard for the publishing company, The Watchtower.
I am Catholic, but I used to be a tutor for a JW kid. His dad was a doctor in physical therapy. Everyone in that family was incredibly intelligent. I think the kid I worked with would have woken up at some point. He would ask me questions about my opinions on different topics. I never openly contradicted his faith, but I would invite him to think things through critically and not be afraid to ask questions and seek answers. I hope he is doing well now.
Well you are just a love. So supportive. - J
@@DiffiCULTChildhood I’ve known several JWs over the years. I don’t agree with a lot of their beliefs, but I understand their desire to do God’s work. Plus, I can appreciate how difficult it would be to come from being brainwashed to having your entire world view turned upside down. That happens to everyone on some level when we’re forced out of the sphere our families form around us. My family did a decent job preparing me for that stage. I wanted to do the same for this kid. After I attended a couple things at the family’s Kingdom Hall, I realized that if someone didn’t invite him to ask the major questions, the religion would do him a huge disservice in the future. Especially if he married and couldn’t trust himself to make decisions for himself and his family. The organization was giving him the answers one spoonful at a time. I didn’t see discussion or discord at the events I attended, but pure parroting of the Watchtower. I can see the good intentions of the organization, but I do worry about the fruit it produces.
Watch this video on there interest in companies they supposedly condem !
" Hidden from Jehovah's Witnesses video 8-A Smoking Gun updated."
Jason Zelda.
I really appreciated Miss Falons commentary on asking for it all. We are All children of God. The Watchtower tries to convince us that we are only friends of God only if we suck up to the organization. Basically indentured servants
Thank you friend for the feedback! And yes, in the relationship I have with Him now, I'm not fearful to ask for anything & everything I need! It's a beautiful freedom! -Falon
jws are like chewing gum sucked in chewed up and spat out
By their own cult.
I am Catholic, in our parish students sitting for their final Year 12 are asked to stand so they could be blessed to their well in their exams so that they can gain good entries to universities. Further education is encouraged. All of my three of my children have double degrees and well paid jobs, my youngest is now studying her second degree, Psychology, and moved back home so she can focus on her studies whilst working part-time.
Your children were blessed to have parents that supported their educational goals! That's awesome! -Falon
They love to put fear and guilt into members , an elders wife told me that my son would be excepted immediately if he applied for bethel but a young woman most likely would be turned down her daughter had been rejected so she had an idea of what they wanted Great video thank you ❤
YES! WOMEN do the vast majority of the preaching work but are entitled to only a fraction of the "privileges" offered to brothers. So disrespectful. (Thank you for watching! -Falon 😁)
The houses off the leaders need to be exposed no doubt massive mansions with lots of land and many expensive cars in the garage
I don't know if things have changed but in West Sussex England, the more wealthy members are looked up to, not down at, especially those who have their own businesses and are elders ....
Wow! IBSA is an eye opener !
Ask Jeeves. Yeah, we're about the same age. 😂😭
Jeff, you're probably the only person that heard it 🤣🤣🤣 -Falon
@@DiffiCULTChildhood i remember ask jeeves too my moms would use it and think its how i learned you dont repeat words when searching. for examply out of the blue you would serach for "white broccli vs green" and NOT "white broccli vs green broccli" (dont repeat words when asking a pc a question) "white broccli" is califlower., just using it as an easy example.
You need to be corrected, it is not the self analysis that kills (though it can) it is being analyzed BY THE OTHERS (their opinon of you; which is hen-pecked to death). They are told to be a refreshing rain, and their mothering-smothering is actually pelting hail that kills you; and then narcissism scapegoat gaslighting takes over to say to you (and to Job) it is your own doing. Lastly like the trinity or triad of 3 Elders there to DF sick Job, they will blame Satan, not themselves abusing you.
The WT conducter at my old hall would be up on the podium preaching about how we should strive to live simple and not try to pursue money or careers. Meanwhile he owns a multi million dollar construction company with 3 locations around the state and takes international trips twice a year. His wife takes her Louis Vuitton bags in service, mind you to the poorest of territories and sees no issue with it.
I know exactly what you mean. The hypocrisy was SO frustrating. "Simple" = Broke 🙄
Could you guys please share that IBSA link? I went to the website but I’m not seeing what you’re speaking of. None of this surprises me though. After I learned of their affiliation with the United Nations It became so apparent to me the outright hypocrisy. And I’d like to add after leaving the organization about a decade ago my life is FLOURISHING! My husband and I share 5 kids, we have built an amazing life of wealth and happiness
NEVERMIND! I found the link!! Thanks
The Bethelites know how to spend your money by purchasing the best Scotch by Mr Morriss I saw it on here they sell the halls built by the people
You blew my mind I knew about building Kingdom Halls and how they use the sheeple to do that but I had never heard of this. Now to be fair I left when I was 20 the appeal of the wife was way more enticing then believing in fiction. But it all makes more sense. They were grooming me to do this saying I should learn how to build things cause I was good at it. And jehovah could use a builder in his congregation.
Keep adherents poor like a person keeps a watch fog not well fed
so it becomes mean.
Also, it knows from who it gets its food and knows not where else to go to get food.
Damn well put. 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
@@DiffiCULTChildhood
Thank you for your supporting my comment.
15:00 your father on call? busting my gut laughing. Like loyal Uriah who gets his wife screwed by the GB king David, and then killed deliberately. The millionaire poor-to-rich JW janitor service here in Kenosha; their mother left during meetings all the time for it. Yes for their own self-made janitor service, left meeting to go do it. They would change clothes in the Hall bathroom during the meeting. Or say they got the talk lecture (and their WT is already studied). They must have known exactly how to interpret that WT article so as not to be there with the rest of us. In fact Jehovah gave my very own bible study to me (versus those handed to me by mom; the children of her own study) because the man walked in, and Mizz Elderette Janitor handed him a WT on her way out (mid meeting janitor appt); 3 days later all by chance my calling on THEIR house starting a study with the whole family on Wednesday. No one in my Hall thought i should teach MY VERSION of Jehovah, but typical JW nosing they all got baptized waiting for hubby/daddy to drop dead at armageddon for his tempor (though always there together as family), and when wife threw hubby out all were DFd. Hubby came back with new wife and fathered a new family. He died before mom did in 2020. Point is Elderette acted like she brought him in handing a mag while she goes out to run her janitor service of OTHER JWs not at the meeting because theyll go (they say) to the other later meeting. It's all games. Reminds me of my neighbor who skipped the scan at WalMart and said he's pay for it next week (if Jesus doesnt come before then because he's getting raptured and asks everyone else if theyre right with God).
Read the Branch Manual....seriously
So interesting you just said that because I only this week got access to a reliable copy. Good call!.
I’m laughing so hard I have told my husband so many times everyone was a ww or a janitor. I helped my friends mom at janitor work often. Personally I let a full scholarship go. I was going to preach the good news. Makes me sick to my stomach.
I told my non-jw husband the same thing & he was so confused! 😂 -Falon
Who else here would fake sick to stay home and watch saturday morning cartoons😂😂😂😂😂
@@AnayhiasMimi4619 The 7:32AM Saturday morning "tummy ache" was SOOOO REAL!!!! 😂 -Falon
@@DiffiCULTChildhood LOL
remind me of our government...
The ‘Governing Body’ should use the example of the Mormons and have their own university and then their Brothers and Sisters would make more money and enact the habit of 10% giving. 😳😀
Right? I think the early GB members over the last century or so really thought it was gonna end so no need for schools. Now they’re screwed. - Jason 🙃
Falon, think hard!!! If you ask for it all, think about who actually BUYS your needs…. It is YOU !!!!!!!!
N you the b true I been with the JWs since A child and the his is absolutely not true. But whatsvtruevthatvthe enjoy has misled many and they are attacking the JWS with many lies, fillings in of A prophecy. No one is perfect right so xinwill stand by loving me people the JWs. I got hobbies and don't have time ge attacking good people not perfect like everyone in is not perfect, but can waste energy on what I can tell you not true they never encouraged anyone to be poor.
About the dumbest thing I ever heard. Just smearing and deception.
“Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.”-Matthew 5:11
Well, Nick, if you were fortunate enough not to have this experience, then congratulations. That is wonderful! But based on the overall feedback on the subject, there are many, many JW’s that can relate to this topic & deserve to feel heard and seen. I appreciate your feedback either way. Be blessed! -Falon 😊
@@vestland3877 By far most of our wives are spiritual women who love their husbands. Of course wives want stability and husbands work hard to provide that.
The heart is desperate and can be treacherous as the Bible says. Men and women must keep their guard no matter who they are.