With the Uzi coming out a decade before the MP series, and with the German army adopting the Uzi, I reckon that was probably the largest contributing factor in why this gun didn't see greater initial commercial success. And with the MP5 coming out a few years later, it was pretty much left as a relatively unknown gun. Still a very neat design. Thanks for the video Ian and everyone else on the team.
It's strange, when you go to slo-mo...you gain about 40 pounds, hair turns red, gets shorter and you lose the glasses and hat. It's amazing what you see when things are slowed down.
If anyone wants to know, these were made from specifically 1963 up to 1985, so for exactly 22 years, & as well, in case any one else was wondering, here is there list of users copied & pasted STRAIGHT from WikiPedia (with the exception of reference links removed & "citation needed" messages removed). You're welcome. Brazil: MPK variant. Colombia: MPK variant. Germany: Used by various naval units in the 1960s. Also used by various police forces. Mexico: Mexican Navy. Portugal: Portuguese Navy. South Africa: MPK version (SA Police standard submachine gun from 1970-1990). United States: Used by 1st SFOD-D during Operation Eagle Claw. Venezuela: MPK variant. Zimbabwe: MPK variant.
policia militar do Rio de Janeiro utiizou a versão MPK até mais ou menos o inicio dos anos 90 e complementação da Taurus MT12A uma cópia um pouco modificada da Beretta BM 12 e das velhas INA M50 e M53 cópias da Madsen M50.
Not surprised to see the MPL used by naval and special forces. This looks like it was set up by a post- Vietnam war navy special forces warfighter ( I know it was made and issued years before that time ). The design and ergonomics just line up with the way they trained and operated.
As a child I remember the first SMG I saw was an MPL on a police officer in Munich airport in the early seventies. The message was clear....don't fuck with Germany. Of course I was made to feel very welcome in Germany and have spent many happy times there. German guns. German beer. German Cars. German machine tools. German porn. Unbeatable.
@@hanfpeter2822 So it's actually a few German actors with poor boundaries making it for degenerates in English speaking nations? Wouldn't it make more sense for us Anglophones to produce our own scat porn? Could also be that German consumers of scat porn are bashful? It's not like I know of anyone watching it here. I saw "Two girls and a cup". Left me uninspired. I have no doubt that people enjoy this kind of thing. I know - let's blame the Brazilians. They don't seem to mind.
@@hanfpeter2822 I've seen German porn. You have some very attractive ladies. They are athletic, appealing to the eye and passionate. I wonder if they smell and taste as good as they look?
I'm utterly astounded at how that countryside looks completely identical to the UK where I grew up!! I mean... I still live here, visit my home town 90 odd days a year and it's exactly the same down to the grass, the *bird song* and the treeline! How fascinating to see how places so far apart can be so similar.
Wish I could own one now, This is one of the first Subguns I ever shot as a kid. in the 80's i was able to shoot one for a whole day. My sister chose the MP5, I chose this one and we shot for about 4 hours long. I was about 13, my sister was 10.
I really like this design, and even just from a short video like this you can tell it was a superb firearm. I know if I were in charge of a police agency or was in the market for a vehicle crew weapon back in the 1960s and 70s, I would have given the MPL a pretty serious look. Thanks for sharing, Ian!
I saw some old Delta pics where they were using the Walther MPL. Also, I just read Len Deighton's 'billion Dollar Brain' and on the cover Michael Caine is holding an MPL. Aside from that, one doesn't see them much.
I've always loved the way these guns look. I used to have some squirt guns that were modeled after these. If I had a chance to own one SMG this would be a top contender 👌😀👍
I used one of these for an international Police shooting competition when I was an MP in Berlin in the 70's. There was a short version also called the MPK. The k was for Kurz - German for short. The American Army did not have a submachine gun available to us so we borrowed some from the German Police. The competitors were Berlin Police, French Gendamerie, British MPs and the American MPs. They had these shoots every year and it was a source of a lot of fun and camaraderie. The MPL was given to us because the K version was so short the Germans were afraid we would shoot our fingers off. We never used the sights but fired from the hip. The Germans explained that this was how they fired instinctively.
I have always wanted to see the mpl in action you made my day with this video. I'm always excited to see your videos love all the guns and info you have. Keep up the good work.
I was stationed in Germany on the Czech border during the Cold War, and since I speak fluent German, I was attached to the Bundes Grenz Schuetz and we carried those on patrol.
The recoil is surprisingly light for a 9mm. The recoil system seems very good and the rate of fire is perfect for the gun. The fucking muzzle barely moves at all, its beautiful to watch. Definitely looks easier to handle than the MP5 which I found kicks more that one would think given how common it is and how it fires the 9mm. You'd think from all those games and movies and the fact that its *the sub machine gun* that it wouldn't really kick much, oh but it does. Not far away from a .223 at all despite firing a much inferior pistol cartridge. MPL honestly seems like the better gun here purely from a shooting standpoint. It might not be as reliable and cheap as the MP5 though so I don't know. Too bad more countries didn't adopt it, the MPL is fucking gorgeous! Make a modernized version of it and I'd rob a bank to buy one! I have no doubts a modern version would sell like crack in the hood.
I shot a version of the mp5 in Budapest on a bachelor party and yes, i was suprised of the kick. We shot pistols like the walther ppk used in james bond up to .44 calibre magnum, mp5 m4 and ak47. The muzzle flash from the .44 scared me like hell, and the sound was brutal inside the bunker!! The walther (it didnt really have much recoil, i was just expecting well, not much at all) and mp5 suprised me the most, the rest I was more prepared for since I already expected a pretty big kick
What really killed this gun was the fact that the MP5 came out approximately 3 years after this one did. The export market for submachine guns was already fairly rough, and from what I can see, the Gustav K45 already had the super cheap SMG market sewn up by the time this came along. In other words, I'd say this suffered FN49 syndrome: a good idea that just came a few years too late.
This gun came out first by a good bit of time... but i think they were compared not to mention at the time there were still a ton of leftovers from ww2 and there wasn't much need for a new smg untill the mp5 came about.
it says on the wiki page for the guns that the walther mpl started production in 1963, and that the h&k mp5 started production in 1964. so, not a good bit of time to be honest.
+BigWheel What's funny is that the Bundeswehr already had adopted a submachinegun in the late '50s ...the Uzi (MP2). The MP5 was pretty much always a specialist's weapon, not like the open bolt SMGs which were supposed to be cost effective issue weapons for the rear echelon and vehicle crews. An MP5 is basically as expensive as a rifle.
The secondary safety isn't really a drop safety, it was far more common for a user to short stroke the cocking lever or slip off the cocking lever, not pulling it back far enough and releasing thus firing a round. This was the primary reason for the secondary bolt catch safety.
I think you answered your question when you analysed the gun Ian. Open bolts are inherently more dangerous than locked breach guns. So even though this was a great shooting gun, any armed force that had the opportunity to purchase the MP5 probably would have chosen it just for the inherent safety.
This gun, I believe, is also known as the Model 1963 SMG. At the time this gun appeared, the big countries had all adopted other guns, noteably the Uzi and the MP5. FN had also aqcuired licence production of the Uzi and many of the numerous countries that adopted the FAL rifle, also adiopted the Uzi. The excellent Walther SMG simply appeared about 10 years too late, otherwise it maight have been much more successful. The short MPK version of the gun is also particularly nice.
I likethis one if I were looking for an SMG for my army or police force this would be the kind of thing I would want. Simple to manufacture but friendly to use and maintain. Makes me think of a Sten with all the issues ironed out
I have one converted to semi auto (i live in Canada so we're not allowed full auto) and use it as a little hunting carbine for rabbits, i used to use a m1-carbine but now its for target practice
Back in the early 1980's I had a Class 3 dealers license. Armex in California was offering these as "dealer samples" for only around $225. Sorry I never bought one. But I did get a MP-40 for the same price. Those were the days.
E eles leiloam estas armas? No Brasil, antes dos esquerdistas, as armas velhas eram leiloadas para colecionadores. Um amigo meu comprou muitas; eles chamavam os eventos de "licitações" (mas não eram Walther, eram outras armas militares). Tive uma revista onde aparecia o Hans Lenzlinger segurando uma MPK em seu escritório. O mecanismo que exige que o ferrolho recue antes de poder avançar é brilhante.
Supposedly the Combat Applications Group commonly known as "Delta Force," used these when they formed in 77. I assume until the MP5 came along, and became a proven CQB weapon. The reason it probably didn't catch on was because of the older sub-machine guns were still in service, and most nations were looking to the select fire fully-automatic rifle to replace all other weapons other than belt fed machine guns. The sudden surge of terrorism in the late 60s and throughout the 70s, was the point where nations began to realise they needed an smg to combat the new threat they were facing.
If you get Motorbooks International's (mostly picture) book on Delta Force, there are several pictures of 8-track-era Delta using either MPLs or MPKs during training.
What a GREAT looking gun. I would like to see some soviet examples such as a Bizon submachine gun. I realize this is nearly impossible but it is my holy grail gun. :)
All modern sub-machine guns seem to be built to the same quality as a cheese grater. I'm a fan of machined and deeply polished weapons that are functional works of art. It's hard for me to get excited about owning cheaply built industrial killing tools.
I have been pondering the lack of success for the MPL and I don't think you can park the blame entirely at the door of HK and the MP5. The Walther MP beat the MP5 to market by three years but consider there were still plenty of WW2 vintage open bolt blow back SMG sitting in armouries. If a nation was looking for something new that was an open bolt blow back there were plenty of established guns already in mass production most notably the L2A1 Sterling. What made the MP5 a runaway success was the fact that it is not only well made but a closed bolt design allowing significant single fist shot accuracy which would be of interest to Police and Special Forces. Then again it is ironic that the Bundeswehr adopted into service a Belgium built variant of the Uzi.
The negligance discharge problem does not origine from dropping it on the back. Thats one possibility but a very unlikely one. The more likely way for this to happen is you just don't pull the charging handle back far enough for the seer to engage, you let go and ... boom. Or you pull back and slip before its fully back. As you charge the rifle much much more often then you actually let it drop, not pulling it back far enough once is much more likely then a freak accident dropping it, exactly on the back hard enough for the bolt to come back, but not far enough to engage the seer.
reply to myself xD: another more likely way to neg. discharge is that you hook the bolthandle on something (corner etc) when you move around. It pulls it back, if far enough to pick up a cartridge but not far enough for seer ...
Anyone play No One Lives Forever? Cate archer uses this SMG quite a bit in that game. Good times. Wow hey the sound for this gun in the game sounds damn close to the real thing. Monolith knew what was up!
Love your channel. It was hard to tell on my phone, but it sounded very quiet. I know it's not suppressed, so it was either my imagination, or perhaps the length of the barrel?
I've sometimes wondered if the Walther lost out to the H&K MP5 series as the 80s approached due to its brutish war like appearance? I mean you look at the two weapons and the HK looks like you could double tap targets in the head without endangering a crowd of civvies they're in the middle of. The Walther looks like it was designed to mow crowds down. Maybe it was also the Walthers' unfortunate appearance at the 1972 Munich Olympics Stand off and Massacre that signaled its end? It was notoriously spotted in the hands of German Policemen (dressed in track suits) trying to sneak up to the building the terrorists were holding their hostages when the live news cameras revealed them to the terrorists. Being associated with such a tragic failure can affect a weapon's future with a government armaments selection. Look what happened to the old James Bond Walther PPK after one used by Princess Anne's bodyguard misfired and jammed during a kidnap attempt. The royals dumped it and went looking for new guns from HK.
Looks a lot like a HK UMP.... Also the noise generated doesn't sound very loud & I wonder what a silenced version would act & sound like (aside from being quieter:)
It may be a stamped 1950s design, but it looks quite modern. I'd love to have one of these.
Same here. Itd look cool with some duracoat, a few rails and a collapsible stock.
@@DieselRamcharger British EM-2 raises its hand
varun009 I think it’s perfect the way it is, maybe one rail on the bottom for a grip
@@caffeinatedinsanity2324 The uzi steps over the non believers as well 👌🤣
Kind of looks like a futuristic mp40, more boxy than round, stick mag, and wire stock
With the Uzi coming out a decade before the MP series, and with the German army adopting the Uzi, I reckon that was probably the largest contributing factor in why this gun didn't see greater initial commercial success. And with the MP5 coming out a few years later, it was pretty much left as a relatively unknown gun.
Still a very neat design.
Thanks for the video Ian and everyone else on the team.
Not sufficiently better, cheaper or different to the Uzi which was a proven performer.
It's strange, when you go to slo-mo...you gain about 40 pounds, hair turns red, gets shorter and you lose the glasses and hat. It's amazing what you see when things are slowed down.
And he becomes a right-handed shooter too!
@@bigbrowntau That's Patrick R who used to be at TFB TV>
@@KingKiavash I was just being silly, but thanks for the heads up...I recognize him now.
Slo-mo shows a parallel universe which is almost exactly like but no where near own own.
Robert Cordova our own
this looks so much better than it does in BO1
sAy wHAAt? Yeah
but it was such a beast in bo1
Danish Raven it was, but this thing in real life looks better than the in game model
yes
No i like the metallic version it looks better to me
Most people would know the MPL from video news footage from the 1972 Munich Olympics hostage drama. The German police forces were armed with MPLs.
The vents really give it some extra character. This gun made Jagged Alliance 2 cover so much more memmorable.
This was the game that sparked an interest for weapon in me 😀
have you tried JA2 1.13?
This needs to be produced again with updates as to accessory interface rails etc. Beautiful little SMG.
By the way, this SMG was used by the Police in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil during the 80's.
It was used by the South African Police from the 60's to mid 2000 IIRC. They were removed from inventory and destroyed.
Until recently, PMERJ were using the Madsen LMG.
If anyone wants to know, these were made from specifically 1963 up to 1985, so for exactly 22 years, & as well, in case any one else was wondering, here is there list of users copied & pasted STRAIGHT from WikiPedia (with the exception of reference links removed & "citation needed" messages removed). You're welcome.
Brazil: MPK variant.
Colombia: MPK variant.
Germany: Used by various naval units in the 1960s. Also used by various police forces.
Mexico: Mexican Navy.
Portugal: Portuguese Navy.
South Africa: MPK version (SA Police standard submachine gun from 1970-1990).
United States: Used by 1st SFOD-D during Operation Eagle Claw.
Venezuela: MPK variant.
Zimbabwe: MPK variant.
policia militar do Rio de Janeiro utiizou a versão MPK até mais ou menos o inicio dos anos 90 e complementação da Taurus MT12A uma cópia um pouco modificada da Beretta BM 12 e das velhas INA M50 e M53 cópias da Madsen M50.
Not surprised to see the MPL used by naval and special forces. This looks like it was set up by a post- Vietnam war navy special forces warfighter ( I know it was made and issued years before that time ). The design and ergonomics just line up with the way they trained and operated.
As a child I remember the first SMG I saw was an MPL on a police officer in Munich airport in the early seventies. The message was clear....don't fuck with Germany. Of course I was made to feel very welcome in Germany and have spent many happy times there. German guns. German beer. German Cars. German machine tools. German porn. Unbeatable.
whats so great about German porn if you cant beat to it?
Some German porn...... their schiesse porn is disgusting.
What is it with former Axis nations and their fixation on scat porn?
@@hanfpeter2822 So it's actually a few German actors with poor boundaries making it for degenerates in English speaking nations?
Wouldn't it make more sense for us Anglophones to produce our own scat porn?
Could also be that German consumers of scat porn are bashful?
It's not like I know of anyone watching it here. I saw "Two girls and a cup". Left me uninspired. I have no doubt that people enjoy this kind of thing.
I know - let's blame the Brazilians. They don't seem to mind.
@@hanfpeter2822 I've seen German porn. You have some very attractive ladies. They are athletic, appealing to the eye and passionate.
I wonder if they smell and taste as good as they look?
@@hanfpeter2822 I apologize if you feel that way. It's not polite to behave that way.
That's actually a very attractive design. Clean and simple.
Ian keep up the good work. Love seeing you on Gun Stories.with Joe M.[Fat Tony]
Mike Sweeney Thanks!
I'm utterly astounded at how that countryside looks completely identical to the UK where I grew up!!
I mean... I still live here, visit my home town 90 odd days a year and it's exactly the same down to the grass, the *bird song* and the treeline!
How fascinating to see how places so far apart can be so similar.
Thanks for the video. I've always liked the look of the gun so it's nice to hear some more about it.
Panimala good grief you're here on Ian's video
starstruck
Wish I could own one now, This is one of the first Subguns I ever shot as a kid. in the 80's i was able to shoot one for a whole day. My sister chose the MP5, I chose this one and we shot for about 4 hours long. I was about 13, my sister was 10.
I have never even heard of this. Seems like one of the better kept "secrets" of the firearm world.
I really like this design, and even just from a short video like this you can tell it was a superb firearm. I know if I were in charge of a police agency or was in the market for a vehicle crew weapon back in the 1960s and 70s, I would have given the MPL a pretty serious look. Thanks for sharing, Ian!
Damn Walther needs to get back into the PDW and long gun game. Their pistols are superb and it seems so are their other firearms.
I feel like this would look so good with a Thompson style wood stock, perhaps polymer black to match the gun, but just that style of stock.
I saw some old Delta pics where they were using the Walther MPL. Also, I just read Len Deighton's 'billion Dollar Brain' and on the cover Michael Caine is holding an MPL. Aside from that, one doesn't see them much.
One of my favorite guns from black ops. I love how it sounds when it fires.
Same here. I remember destroying everyone with this gun.
This smg looks like it could be a prop in starwars with out much dressing up. I would love to shoot it for real.
With a different stock, I'd say it would have been one of the best sub guns of the mid 20th century
I've always loved the way these guns look. I used to have some squirt guns that were modeled after these. If I had a chance to own one SMG this would be a top contender 👌😀👍
I used one of these for an international Police shooting competition when I was an MP in Berlin in the 70's. There was a short version also called the MPK. The k was for Kurz - German for short. The American Army did not have a submachine gun available to us so we borrowed some from the German Police. The competitors were Berlin Police, French Gendamerie, British MPs and the American MPs. They had these shoots every year and it was a source of a lot of fun and camaraderie. The MPL was given to us because the K version was so short the Germans were afraid we would shoot our fingers off. We never used the sights but fired from the hip. The Germans explained that this was how they fired instinctively.
I have always wanted to see the mpl in action you made my day with this video. I'm always excited to see your videos love all the guns and info you have. Keep up the good work.
You impress me as a mechanical genius with all the obscure weapons that you can dissasemble / assemble.
These are by far my favorite kinds of videos. Keep it up!
Whoaa... finally Walther MPL. Thank you for this awesome video. Love it so much. 😊
I know it's not a precursor to the UMP but this gun is screaming H&K to me. Thanks for all your work Ian
I was stationed in Germany on the Czech border during the Cold War, and since I speak fluent German, I was attached to the Bundes Grenz Schuetz and we carried those on patrol.
what a neat bolt design
Well, they weren't TOTALLY forgotten...
I’ve been recommended this because of Cold War
Yeah lol
Much respect for what you do
The recoil is surprisingly light for a 9mm. The recoil system seems very good and the rate of fire is perfect for the gun. The fucking muzzle barely moves at all, its beautiful to watch.
Definitely looks easier to handle than the MP5 which I found kicks more that one would think given how common it is and how it fires the 9mm. You'd think from all those games and movies and the fact that its *the sub machine gun* that it wouldn't really kick much, oh but it does. Not far away from a .223 at all despite firing a much inferior pistol cartridge.
MPL honestly seems like the better gun here purely from a shooting standpoint. It might not be as reliable and cheap as the MP5 though so I don't know. Too bad more countries didn't adopt it, the MPL is fucking gorgeous!
Make a modernized version of it and I'd rob a bank to buy one! I have no doubts a modern version would sell like crack in the hood.
I shot a version of the mp5 in Budapest on a bachelor party and yes, i was suprised of the kick. We shot pistols like the walther ppk used in james bond up to .44 calibre magnum, mp5 m4 and ak47.
The muzzle flash from the .44 scared me like hell, and the sound was brutal inside the bunker!! The walther (it didnt really have much recoil, i was just expecting well, not much at all) and mp5 suprised me the most, the rest I was more prepared for since I already expected a pretty big kick
Something not pointed out...it probably has one the lowest bore axis of any SMG ever made; as with pistols, this matters in terms of controllability.
this looks like a really good gun i agree with the host this gun deserves more love
What really killed this gun was the fact that the MP5 came out approximately 3 years after this one did. The export market for submachine guns was already fairly rough, and from what I can see, the Gustav K45 already had the super cheap SMG market sewn up by the time this came along.
In other words, I'd say this suffered FN49 syndrome: a good idea that just came a few years too late.
Very nice video and a very cool gun. Keep the videos coming!
God i would love to have one of these. I owned people in black ops one with this gun and besides that i just love the style of it
It has a really distinct rattle to it on the giggle switch
I just think the MP5 stole all the thunder from this gun and ever since I watched Total Recall I have always wanted one of these
That's a good looking weapon.... I've never seen one before at Gun Show or on TV
didn't this gun compete with the mp5 at the time? comparing this to the mp5 basically makes the mp5 look like a gun from the future.
This gun came out first by a good bit of time... but i think they were compared
not to mention at the time there were still a ton of leftovers from ww2 and there wasn't much need for a new smg untill the mp5 came about.
it says on the wiki page for the guns that the walther mpl started production in 1963, and that the h&k mp5 started production in 1964. so, not a good bit of time to be honest.
A whole year between releases is a good bit of time when you consider it
Also development started a year prior aswell.
+BigWheel What's funny is that the Bundeswehr already had adopted a submachinegun in the late '50s ...the Uzi (MP2).
The MP5 was pretty much always a specialist's weapon, not like the open bolt SMGs which were supposed to be cost effective issue weapons for the rear echelon and vehicle crews. An MP5 is basically as expensive as a rifle.
The secondary safety isn't really a drop safety, it was far more common for a user to short stroke the cocking lever or slip off the cocking lever, not pulling it back far enough and releasing thus firing a round. This was the primary reason for the secondary bolt catch safety.
I think you answered your question when you analysed the gun Ian. Open bolts are inherently more dangerous than locked breach guns. So even though this was a great shooting gun, any armed force that had the opportunity to purchase the MP5 probably would have chosen it just for the inherent safety.
Very slick internals.
Man, I love how your videos almost always start with the firing of the weapon in question.
That's a very unique sounding 9mm.
Very neat sub gun. It appears to be easy to use and very well made. I'd like to have one!
Such a beautiful machine...
This gun, I believe, is also known as the Model 1963 SMG. At the time this gun appeared, the big countries had all adopted other guns, noteably the Uzi and the MP5. FN had also aqcuired licence production of the Uzi and many of the numerous countries that adopted the FAL rifle, also adiopted the Uzi. The excellent Walther SMG simply appeared about 10 years too late, otherwise it maight have been much more successful. The short MPK version of the gun is also particularly nice.
I likethis one if I were looking for an SMG for my army or police force this would be the kind of thing I would want. Simple to manufacture but friendly to use and maintain. Makes me think of a Sten with all the issues ironed out
Thanks Ian.
Metal Gear Solid V had an SMG that was a cross between this and the MP5.
I have one converted to semi auto (i live in Canada so we're not allowed full auto) and use it as a little hunting carbine for rabbits, i used to use a m1-carbine but now its for target practice
Never knew this existed! Awesome!
Thank you!
Back in the early 1980's I had a Class 3 dealers license. Armex in California was offering these as "dealer samples" for only around $225. Sorry I never bought one. But I did get a MP-40 for the same price. Those were the days.
almost looks like a Tec 9 but more old-school
i thought the same
Except this seem to fire more than 3 rounds without jamming, LOL!
dude in cs:go These weapons are way better
its the same with the mag-7 .... it actually
somehow works man ...
Portugal still use that gun.....it was to be
replaced by Lusa sub-machine gun but the project was sold to USA.
E eles leiloam estas armas? No Brasil, antes dos esquerdistas, as armas velhas eram leiloadas para colecionadores. Um amigo meu comprou muitas; eles chamavam os eventos de "licitações" (mas não eram Walther, eram outras armas militares). Tive uma revista onde aparecia o Hans Lenzlinger segurando uma MPK em seu escritório. O mecanismo que exige que o ferrolho recue antes de poder avançar é brilhante.
Anyone search this cuz of the LC10
Yep, that's why I'm here
Supposedly the Combat Applications Group commonly known as "Delta Force," used these when they formed in 77. I assume until the MP5 came along, and became a proven CQB weapon. The reason it probably didn't catch on was because of the older sub-machine guns were still in service, and most nations were looking to the select fire fully-automatic rifle to replace all other weapons other than belt fed machine guns. The sudden surge of terrorism in the late 60s and throughout the 70s, was the point where nations began to realise they needed an smg to combat the new threat they were facing.
If you get Motorbooks International's (mostly picture) book on Delta Force, there are several pictures of 8-track-era Delta using either MPLs or MPKs during training.
Got a chance to fire one of these, great time really easy to keep on target
Joke: What's the similarity between a social justice warrior and a bad open-bolt submachine gun?
They get triggered by anything
As if people like you don't have their berserk buttons.
+Desmaad Check your privilege.
lmfao
+Jack Mcslay Aren't you a stupid fuck?
+Green Genes shit, man, you're certainly not helping anyone's case
Wow... That's an awesome gun.
I'm going to look for one on the European market, see what they run for, it's an interesting weapon!Must admit i wasn't even aware of its existence!
if gun companies listened to which of their old models are widely loved they could make an effort to bring them back for the civilian market.
Waltuh
Great video Ian. Seeing as the MPL and Uzi have the same weight, length collapsed and barrel length, what was the cost comparison between the two?
the portuguese police and navy are also still using that submachinegun.
What a GREAT looking gun. I would like to see some soviet examples such as a Bizon submachine gun. I realize this is nearly impossible but it is my holy grail gun. :)
New number one on MSG wishlist
Nice one ian nice looking piece of kit .
All modern sub-machine guns seem to be built to the same quality as a cheese grater. I'm a fan of machined and deeply polished weapons that are functional works of art. It's hard for me to get excited about owning cheaply built industrial killing tools.
These were used in the film Ghost Ship .
Имел такой лет в 8 или 9. Только зеленый. Он такими пульками стрелял разноцветными.
It looks futuristic
I suspect the "E" at the semi-auto position on the fire-selector stands for "Ein", German for "One"
One of the best guns to me when playing cod bo zombies
I would love to buy one someday
If they did a remake in semi auto id actually do a tax stamp cuz that is really slick
I have been pondering the lack of success for the MPL and I don't think you can park the blame entirely at the door of HK and the MP5.
The Walther MP beat the MP5 to market by three years but consider there were still plenty of WW2 vintage open bolt blow back SMG sitting in armouries. If a nation was looking for something new that was an open bolt blow back there were plenty of established guns already in mass production most notably the L2A1 Sterling.
What made the MP5 a runaway success was the fact that it is not only well made but a closed bolt design allowing significant single fist shot accuracy which would be of interest to Police and Special Forces.
Then again it is ironic that the Bundeswehr adopted into service a Belgium built variant of the Uzi.
Great little SMG care needs to be taken to keep fingers out of the ejection port.
I'd call the gun more UZI like in function than the mp5, especially with the barrel nut Ian pointed out.
They were also made under license in South Africa and used by the South African police until the mid 80s
yep I was issued one in 1989
The negligance discharge problem does not origine from dropping it on the back. Thats one possibility but a very unlikely one. The more likely way for this to happen is you just don't pull the charging handle back far enough for the seer to engage, you let go and ... boom. Or you pull back and slip before its fully back. As you charge the rifle much much more often then you actually let it drop, not pulling it back far enough once is much more likely then a freak accident dropping it, exactly on the back hard enough for the bolt to come back, but not far enough to engage the seer.
reply to myself xD: another more likely way to neg. discharge is that you hook the bolthandle on something (corner etc) when you move around. It pulls it back, if far enough to pick up a cartridge but not far enough for seer ...
I know it's been a while but, clever design. Any idea why it didn't catch on or was used elsewhere?
MP5
this was my favorite gun in black ops 1
very nice submachine gun very nice want to have one
this looks like it would fit in with something the imperials would use in star wars
Anyone play No One Lives Forever? Cate archer uses this SMG quite a bit in that game. Good times. Wow hey the sound for this gun in the game sounds damn close to the real thing. Monolith knew what was up!
Love your channel. It was hard to tell on my phone, but it sounded very quiet. I know it's not suppressed, so it was either my imagination, or perhaps the length of the barrel?
that rear sight does look very surprised! o.o
I've sometimes wondered if the Walther lost out to the H&K MP5 series as the 80s approached due to its brutish war like appearance? I mean you look at the two weapons and the HK looks like you could double tap targets in the head without endangering a crowd of civvies they're in the middle of. The Walther looks like it was designed to mow crowds down.
Maybe it was also the Walthers' unfortunate appearance at the 1972 Munich Olympics Stand off and Massacre that signaled its end? It was notoriously spotted in the hands of German Policemen (dressed in track suits) trying to sneak up to the building the terrorists were holding their hostages when the live news cameras revealed them to the terrorists.
Being associated with such a tragic failure can affect a weapon's future with a government armaments selection.
Look what happened to the old James Bond Walther PPK after one used by Princess Anne's bodyguard misfired and jammed during a kidnap attempt. The royals dumped it and went looking for new guns from HK.
Hello. The Portuguese metropolitan police (still in use) and the Portuguese Navy Special forces Bought also this model.
thank you again!
It's like a swingers party lead to a m16 and a Uzi having a baby
Don't forget this gun was adopted as the official smg of Dr evils anonymous henchmen.
its in battlefield so its not forgotten for me.
Wonder how hot that sheet metal hand guard must get after a couple of mags through it...
Looks a lot like a HK UMP.... Also the noise generated doesn't sound very loud & I wonder what a silenced version would act & sound like (aside from being quieter:)