A federal united Europe would be a powerhouse on the global stage, but I’m afraid it wouldn’t be popular in favour of short term, individual goals that populists would go for instead.
@@Aerostarm You do know that was the purpose of the Euro and single European market which started in 2000? It started out pretty strong. But where has that gotten you lately....?
Europeans don't need a currupt, undemocratic, political experiment to be 'together'. Those of us old enough to know what Europe was like before 1993 have seen the EU project make the continent worse economically, culturally, and in security. As a massively pro European I can't wait for the day the project collapses.
We as Europeans should be sick and tired of being poker chips that the big boys can play around with. It’s time for us to take a seat at the table and individual European states won’t be able to do it alone. I’m not saying we should give up are national identities however we should unite in some way to become more powerful on the global scale.
Blessed Be the Fruit ! If only the majority thought like that... to make people understand that it's not by staying 27 little individual gardens - arguing over bullshit - that we should actually - collectively - create - a mega forest with a big Wall and say fuck off to all the other empires dreaming of getting their hands on the little gardens...
As a french reducing the power of the french state and the privileges of the french political oligarchy would be enough to convince me to support the idea of a european federation.
It would not. It would just move the oligarchy to an EU institution and give them power not just over France, but the entire continent. It would make it much easier for them to cooperate and consolidate with their counterparts in other countries.
@@zefft.f4010the EU is based more on a "Social-Democrat" / humanist system. So *NO*. That oligarchy-like in the USA won't happen here as we must "Confederalize" firsthand before becoming a "Federation"
the advantage of it would be that they could then merge, without necessarily one joining the other, because they would be the same. Some might say that Switzerland joined the EU, because EU would be bigger, but then others can easily claim that EU joined Switzerland, because Switzerland is older, while technically they would just be cold welded.
The EU at the moment is like the holy roman empire, surrounded by large unified states, that we are struggling to compete with. India, china, brazil, the EAC, the USA, or ASEAN.
The histories of different EU countries are too long and rich to unite into a federation. Not to mention most of them were constantly fighting each other in the past. Inevitably nationalism will get in the way.
@@JM-cu6ex Germany is just a mirage, it has no way of producing electricity without resorting to its coal-fired power stations, importing gas to replace coal would ruin it and it does not want nuclear power. It is the chronicle of an inevitable decline.
either way it will happen. we can have a peaceful integration or some country decides to start a war and ends up uniting europe or they unite europe themselves
At this moment we're united in destroying our economy. We're almost like the Roman empire at its last years. Still standing but about to collapse at any moment.
I agree men Europe can be very powerful if they work together made economic business but they don’t understand how economic work only some nations like Germany know
Really? I think it lacks meaning and historical president. Its so simpel and trying to appeal to everyone it is blank and without soul imo... I would actually be in favor of turing the stars into a sun with as many beams as memberstates. Like the Oriflamme of Charlemagne (who is already dubbed the father of modern europe).
Finally! Someone that recognizes that the Swiss style of government would be perfect for many other countries in like in this case, the EU. Especially, the executive being multiple heads of state, comprised of all major parties and usually with every region/language represented. They each lead a department/ministry, but work and vote as one executive body with only a symbolic yearly rotating 'president' title. Adapting this to the EU, would make sure every major party and countries/regions feels represented and coalision get formed on a topic by topic basis, and not to form a government. (Thus avoiding the typical 'government vs. opposition' issues.)
@@ninototo1 and turning it into a colony will help us? we dont care about the global events we care about our local politics and problems and we care about our culture very much, just because you dont give a damn about yours does not mean we have to live in the same house as you
i really stand behind the idea of a federal EU. I voted for VOLT last election, a PAN- European party. As someone posted here already: "Together we rise, divided we fall"
If we want to survive 21. the st century we need a federal and more democratic Europe🇪🇺💪 Volt is the only party that campaigns for such necessary reforms🙏
That'd be a huge change and I think it is probably hard to completely oversee that change. But I would LOVE feeling more united to the rest of Europe. -Greetings from The Netherlands 🙋🏻♀️
@@EUMadeSimple I would like more details. How exactly would you resolve the issue with monarchies, separatism, self-determination, language, religion. Would France be one state or would Bavaria be a state on equal footing (as it already is a state within Germany), would there be some sort of electoral college for election of a president?
@@EUMadeSimpleit would be interesting to see the benefits that full federalism would bring to individual aspects, like you’ve done with the military; make vids about tech, energy, finances, etc
The Federal system is the best path for Europe, Imagine if Italy wants to make Marijuana legal but Finland does not. The Federal system allows for each to make their own local laws based on local population desires, and also have a unified central Government on top to share resources for better and more powerful military, and decision making, foreign relations, taxation, centralized spending on infrastructure that connects all of the EU together. Imagine if EU was able to collect EU wide taxes and fund big highway expansion to connect EU countries better. Just look at how bad the roads are connecting Czechia to Germany, let alone the rest of the EU, this leads to lack of efficiency, if you want to increase the economic power of Europe the easiest way is to pool resources for common goal to build faster, better connected EU. Less differences of taxes and cross border issues. Open the doors.
That's fine. They will have to follow the rules set by big guys anyway. It's how it is - you can be alone, but your power diminishes a lot then. Belarus plays as Russia wants, Mexico or Canada can't have any policy that is not good for US. It's just live - if you are small you have to obey big ones.
@@erikrahbekstergaard1402 Never said it's easy. But we still have some common budget. One thing I can imagine is creating corporation tax for companies that have more than 100 million revenue annually and sell their products to many countries - those corporations are already too big to be controlled by a government and they affect whole EU. And it would ease race to the bottom where no one can tax the companies as they will move to another country.
@@erikrahbekstergaard1402 Federation doesn't need to have single personal tax rate, nor the same retirment age, nor the same land tax. I believe US has it backward - companies should be taxed on federal level so states can compete by providing best workforce and best life for educated workforce, not by undercutting tax income and public services.
As a Pole, hell NO! I don't want to pay for failed policies made somewhere in Brussels where no one knows who is responsible for them. Europe before taking into politics should solve it's economical problems. No net zero, but GDP. No regulation but competitiveness. No illegal immigration but stimulating own demographics.
Poland benefitted immensely from EU membership,it's visible in Polish cities and villages as they never looked so great and poles never had such a quality of life.But being jealous moaners Poles cannot recognise how good they have . Travel to US or UK to see how quickly things can get worse.
In a market without regulations working people will only ever get exploited. Even more so than they are now already. Do you really want a market without regulations? You should reconsider what you wrote. I'd argue that especially because money can get transferred easily from one location to the other without losing much, if even so, there need to be stronger regulations which make it harder for the mega corporations or ultra-rich people to transfer their business from one day to the other to some other country easily and therefore make hundret of people unemployed over night. A European ountry acting on its own is here simply to weak to tackle that alone. Also, you ask for solving immigration and then don't want Brussels for establishing EU wide rules and regulations and to basically use Frontex to push back immigrants at EU borders to the countries they actually came from? So, in the end Italy will have to deal with those 100k refugees on its own basically just because it so happens to be the EU country people from Africa usually reach first? Your comment contains quite some double standards IMO. Granted, Poland has probably the highest number of Ukraine refugees but that has something to do with locality. If Germany would border Ukraine it probably would have received a higher proportion of refugees themselves though those people now would have to go through Poland to get to Germany and even there lots of people are already fed up of being the target country most refugees want to move to. Besides that plenty of countries along the so called Balkan route already have had to take on plenty of refugees during the Syrian war and plenty of those people have not return since. Italy still suffers from plenty of African people to land on their shores while other countries like Hungary and so forth refuse to take on even a couple of migrants while still requesting billions of € as support payment. Those refugees are a general European problem not one of Poland, Germany or Italy alone and as such there should be an EU wide decision on how those people should be handled and that each and every country basically takes on their fair share on treating those. If Poland would be invaded by Russia tomorrow you'd probably also hope that Germany (or any other EU state you move to) will provide you accomodation and food during the invasion. In the end, most former east-block countries are de-facto net-receivers in terms of EU funding to bring their local infrastructure up to Western standards and to improve their economy to make them stronger on the international market. That of course also makes those countries then more attractive for migration. And yes, there are lots of funded projects which are litearlly a waste of money, though those decisions usually happen on local levels. I.e. some years ago the countryside area where my parents live got a train connection financed by EU fundings. They laid tracks and build a couple of train stops both for human passengers and some freight terminals that for sure must have cost several 100m € just to have the train company stop any trains going to that area two month later as it wasn't profitable "enough"! It was profitable though they made more money on other routes and thus in order to maximize profits they simply cut that region completely. Without EU fundings this project probably would never have been realized and thus lots of € could have been spared. On the other hand, if the local train company would have been fine with the profits it made, the whole region could be connected now to basically the rest of Europe and thus provide graceful conditions to lots of people who moved to that area.
@@fintonmainz7845 and @mmcworldbuilding5994 - two very sensible comments. Cooperation, openness, freedom of movement, freedom to belong to a culture and/or ethnicity etc. YES. A deep power hierarchy where an insanely large "parliament", with members who are very distant from their voters, and "one-size-fits-all" politics, NO! I voted NO to the Maastricht treaty in 1992, and I will fight anything that threatens Danish sovereignty. For example, we don't have one minimal wage in Denmark, because the labour market is negotiated between workers in unions and the employee organisations on the other side. Our system works fine, which our good economy proves. I don't want the EU to be able to change this.
Same, but tbf Ireland already consolidates too much in Dublin, I imagine counties like Donegal will be left somehow more forgotten if the decisions are pushed even further away lol
Ireland itself counts close to nothing. Without federation we cannot run any strategy against big players, and tell me, what are you gonna do if big companies will move its HQs from Dublin? You're tax haven, have barely no heavy industry, so what are you gonna do when europe looses its importance? A fishery? Are you good at fishing?
Closer, but not quite there yet. Maybe if it also didn't push for LGBTQ which started a whole cultural war to which different nations react in different ways.
Denmark always has strict immigration rules WHILE in the EU. So, yeah, let's blame national incompetence on the usual scapegoat again. The UK tried that.
As a Swiss citizen I am biased but I think Europe should really take inspiration from us. We've reached a really good balance of power between the Federal government and the States (Cantons). Also, the collegial system of governance works nicely and brings stability.
You know a United States of Europe would be pretty ironic but kinda impossible since there’s so many differences in culture throughout Europe that even if you united Europe like completely then it would have to accommodate a heavily diverse culture. But like what’s the point if there’s already a European Union that already is enough I think
As a "european citizen" this would create a Post Tito Yugoslavia rich with ethnic and religious tension. In the short term it would be benefitial indeed, but the state can't even with luck and extreme competency last longer then 40 years and it's dissolution would put the Yugoslav Wars to shame.
Eh, if this is how Federalization would be defined, then it's not a super bad concept. It's still bad, terrible even, but at least would not immediately lead to a civil war due to the differences. Here's just a couple: - Getting France and Germany to agree on nuclear wont happen. - French Laïcite would have Poland and Sweden condemn it. Poland because Religion is big there and core to Polish identity, and Sweden because Laïcite is not truly secular as it only guarantees freedom from religion but not freedom of religion. - Sweden and Denmark would not agree on migration and asylum policy with Sweden being really open (to its detriment as a Swede) while Denmark is more controlled. - The Netherlands would not agree to EU criminalizing Weed at its courts. Etc, etc. We have multiple, multi-dimensional differences that cannot be reconciled. Doing so would only lead to hatred of entire nations of people. It doesn't work. Heed the warning of the Kalmar Union. We can be neighbors, but we're better of as neighbors and not as roommates. Separate we stand, united we fall.
absolutely right not to mention drastically different foreign policies, mentalities and attitudes that evolved as a consequence of thousand of years of history.
There are no rational reasons not to federalize Europe. Just imagine how much more effective everything would be. Take the military for example. Instead of having 27 expensive army organizations there would be only 1. And now think if you did the same for taxation, foreign affairs, law enforcement, judiciary, health and welfare, transport and infrastructure, energy and environment, intelligence and security, economic regulation, education, immigration. The money that would be saved would be astronomical. Our continent would see massive growth again for the first time in two decades. We would actually be able to solve problems instead of just discussing them for 10 years. We could go our own way as a continent, and not have to be slaves to whoever the Americans vote into office. The only reason not to do this is because of our patriotic feelings. I say we move those patriotic feelings out to Europe's borders instead. Make Europe Great Again.
@@sokobian on the contrary, there's no rational reasons to federalize Europe. Everything would be far less effective, as different Nations want entirely different things and have different needs of their populations. Not to mention different ways of wanting to do things. Add that the taxed money of nations not going towards their own prosperity but rather that of another nation in the federation would be worse than what it is already, and the ability to fight back against this tyranny would be entirely on national lines, causing frictions and tensions to be far worse. We have seen smaller unions like this plenty of times in European history: the Kalmar Union, Yugoslavia, and the Soviet Union, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and heck, even on a smaller scale we have Czechoslovakia and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. They didn't last due to ethnic, cultural, and national differences. At best, a Federalized Europe could hold together until the sense of threat keeping it together is gone, be it Russia, China, or Iran, but once those are off the table, very little will be keeping a federalized Europe together, not even a united economy or infrastructure as proven throughout history including modern history. While the EU does need reform to make all our nations prosperous and great again, don't pretend that reform can only be by federalizing. There's plenty of ways to reform the EU while keeping this "Confederate" nature intact. Separate we stand, united we fall.
@@sokobian not wanting your men to be taken to Burkina Faso to kill or to force children to work in mines to put gold in France's banks is a very rational reason, not to mention a humanistic one. France and many other western Eu countries still have overseas territories, essentially never having stop colonialism, only rebranding it. We eastern Europeans would never surrender our autonomy to foreign powers, not after fighting for hundreds of years to obtain independence. If you want to play empires, that's on you, keeps us out of it.
Honestly, a Kalmar Union V2 would have a much greater chance of success than a EU country, but yeah, Denmark and Norway has to agree to our outrageous crimerates from reckless immigration, I'd guess Norway would like to keep their Oil and so on.. But IF that worked out we are more or less the same people, same history, same flag (more or less), almost the same language, similar culture and the same national religion and so on..
Yeah everyone who watches this channel would say yes. But I talk to people at my uni, sometimes bringing this up and many rly just don't see the EU as much more than an economic block yet. They also have no idea how much regulation comes from EU and not the Nation itself. For people to surrender more responsibility to an EU level, like defense, the EU needs ALOT more marketing.
Where are you from? It depends completely on the country of origin. And also it depends on how you word it. Most people wouldn't like a 'European federation' because it sounds like "European Superstate", but they'd be completely fine with removing the veto system, a unified fiscal and foreign policy and army
@@fra604 Yeah, one common trend I've seen in this comment section is that comparing it to Switzerland really resonates with people. If you say "European Federation" or "European Superstate", they recoil, but if you say "European Super-Switzerland" then people are like oh that's so cool.
My opinion is that it works in US predominantly because they have a common language which unites them. Unity comes with clear communication. Unfortunately for EU, there is no common language. Nothing whatsoever which would be common and unite them. Except for the fact they are happening to be living in Europe. But that’s like arguing all countries in Asia should be a federation because they are on one landmass
The United States does not have an official language at the federal level. English is the de facto language used for government and most official functions, but there is no law making it the official language. This reflects the country’s diverse linguistic heritage. Spanish is the second most spoken language in the United States, with a significant portion of the population using it as their primary language. It's prominent in many regions, particularly in states like California, Texas, Florida, and New York. In the EU there is also a kind of de facto language. You guess it, English. Although not in the same manners as in the US. Programs like Erasmus, and other future "federal level" programs like joint military schools, would enforce the feeling of unity and citizenship. There is a layer of youth in Europe that feels more European with free movement, etc. I think federalism is unavoidable.
@@luisPcordeiroyou must be living in a different EU, if you have ever been to a government office or any other normal function in day to day life in Germany, France or Italy, they always use their own language, in fact they kind of frown upon English speakers. Italy even introduced a law banning any use of English words in official tasks. There won’t ever be an EU federation. In fact countries are moving towards nationalism at the moment.
@sajithdilshan Well, I can't speak for other countries, but I've visited and worked in several and survived. In 2024, there is technology to facilitate communication in other languages. This will improve further. Look at us right now...
@@sajithdilshan italy didn't introduce no such thing. it was a draft proposed by one guy from the ruling party and it was left in the closet right after the whole country took a good laugh at it.
@@luisPcordeiro I think you said it perfectly, you survived with English. If you wanna live there long term you need to learn native language. For almost all Europeans their national language is a source of pride. Also legally in some areas they are even prohibited to provide services if you don’t understand the native language. As an example a German bank can refuse to give you a loan if you don’t understand German because the contract is in German and legally you are only allowed to sign it once you’ve read and understood it. Coming back to original point, there is absolutely no common language, religion, ethnicity or any other factor which unites all EU countries and in fact they are far better being individual states than answering to Brussels
Whatever system the Eu brings in, it would not work for the simple fact that EACH COUNTRY ONLY WANTS TO BE PART OF THE CLUB but don’t want to lose its integrity/culture/language/etc… Take the US as an example, every state feels AMERICAN, each individual from different states feel AMERICAN. People speack the same language, love the national anthem, every American does the same thing regardless the state, we have one MILITARY, Our constitution governs all of us. The Eu, on the other hand, they don’t have that mentality of patriotism. The EU should only focus on Economic rather than political issues.
Sovereign in the USSR? Except for Russia probably all other countries in the "Soviet Union" were puppet states at best which had to do what Russia told them to do. If not they just came by with their tanks to restore their power, like in Hungary 1956 and Tschechoslovakia 1968.
Thank you for bringing the Articles of Confederation up. As an American, I’ve long thought that Europe’s current status mirrors that of the Thirteen Colonies. The Articles provide a useful example of why the E.U., at present, is highly dysfunctional, and the Constitutional Convention of 1789 provides some valuable lessons in how those problems were (partially) solved. I’d recommend the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, a series of articles for and against the Constitution, as further reading for the interested. The authors are big names: Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, among others.
I think most of the EU scepticism comes from the fact that the EU is way too centralized. The EU bureaucracy has a life of its own as a separate, above national government entity. This leads to total political dead end as we see in so many countries with numerous parties in the Parliaments and devided societies. No original political idea other then what is said in Brussels. There are objective indications that such model doesn't work. Further centralization will just increase the Euroscepticism. Not to mention that we already saw this scenario with Yugoslavia and the USSR.
Малко наизуст си говорите. Иначе от нефункционални модели се хората се учат. Ако Югославия се разпадна заради простотията на народът си, корумпираният социализъм и див национализъм, то при Швейцария си вирее федералният модел.
As a Ukrainian, whose country is moving towards the EU, I don't want us to get there and then run away from the USSR 2.0 out of fear, or sabotage its work. I am not sure that I have the right to dictate how it is better or to criticize, but I want to express myself. Not ready to consider my opinion, stop, do not read further, do not force yourself. The current EU does not work as effectively as it could, but only dictatorships, countries populated by migrants and small unions of countries, which are much easier to govern than would be the case with the EU, are more effective. European countries should not give up their sovereignty, especially cultural (in the broadest sense of the term), the world can lose too much. I ask you to approach this issue very responsibly. The pursuit of efficiency in the economic and military spheres should not lead to the fact that Europe will turn into a place where only rootless cosmopolitans will live comfortably. Cooperation of independents, cooperation of those who work together for a better present and future. This is how I want to see the EU to which we aspire. You should look for ways to resolve problems and disagreements faster, not how to stop negotiating.
@@XY-uc1tw Your position has the right to exist. I hope that by the time the issue of our entry becomes relevant and reaches the level of discussion by societies, we will be able to show people that we have something to offer you.
We'll be happy with a federation, only when every country in the EU will have the same wages and more or less same prices... Like Dominik Tarczynski said: "Germany and russians they want to drink Dom Perignon and they want us to drink water, that is the difference. So if they want us to have a lunch together and split de bill, they have to eat the same thing and drink the same thing, the club means that we are equal, we have the same rights and the same duties.". So until that happens, I think most of us will never be ok with a European Federation... Also they are already too implicated in our contries laws... Which they shouldn't be able to do, but if you don't agree with them, they just sanction you to submission...
The major problem with this is how every country is structured differently. For the EU to start enforcing something like that would mean certain systems would collapse. Like the Scandinavian model, where wages are dealt with by employers and unions, with little government interference.
Democracy in this "European federation" would be almost impossible due to the huge difference in language, culture, and development differences in the different countries. Basically every country will vote for their candidate, thus leading for the country with the highest population to always win (currently Germany, unless Russia somehow enters EU). So these candidates will also don't have any incentive to help all other countries.
Absolutely not. This would be a disaster. Even the USA are very divided right now and Europe is even more diverse. All those naïve and 15 years old saying stuff like "Together we rise, divided we fall" or "Diversity is our strenght" don't understand a thing about how empires rise, work and die. Yes this supranational super structure would be very powerful but very authoritarian too, it would have an imperial center (Germany, which is the imperial center of the EU right now) who would dictates its will to others.
You don't need a genius to know that United we are stronger! I am not saying it's going to be perfect but it's much more better off than being divided! All the research evidence shows that clearly! And all the Political, economical and social cruises should us this truth.. divided we fall!
USA is less divided than many EU countries. Their press makes it look worse than it is; and also, Europe has politicians that are way more extreme than Trump, look at the AFD!
The EU has been a bureaucratic nightmare from day one. There needs to be a massive democratic overhaul. The UK is a good example of how these little states of Europe cannot survive on their own.
Actually, there are less civil servants working for the EU than for the city of London. The EU has cut far more red tape than it created. It is also already far more democratic than most of its members. But hey, keep reading the Mail.
The EU has so much potential, no matter what the “nay”-sayers say. “EU is an experiment”, “The EU is this/that”, wasn’t the US effectively an experiment too or even Australia? Different histories, different times, but “together we stay strong” has proven to work, despite difficulties, etc. is the US perfectly harmonious- you bet it isn’t. Sure, in the EU we have our differences, sure some divide us on East/West, and yes there are differences, but we have a lot in common too. Whoever thinks forging a strong union is easy, problem-free, and only benefits and no downsides is naive. Having traveled, lived and led an economically active live in multiple countries across Europe, I can say with a hand on my heart that I’ve always been welcomed by other folks from other European nations. I respect national differences and customs, and expect to be respected too - and so far have been.
Completely agree, while all of this sounds great, without reforming to make the EU more transparent and democratic we should not move towards federalizing
@freshguacer The EU parliament, despite being the only elected body by the EU population, has no power to actually implement anything. They can only do that if the council of ministers approve, i.e. one nation can just block the overwhelming will of the eu citizens. And ministers are not even chosen directly by the people of their own country. You can call that democratic if you want, I won't.
The people who are already making decisions in EU are heavily corrupted and manipulated. I can't imagine giving these people full autonomy that would be madness.
That problem is due to the first-past-the-post voting system that favors a two-party system. The EU and most member states use parliamentarism and proportional representation which leads to a multi-party system.
For EU to become a Federation it first needs a true Democratic System. Every Parliament in a Demoray needs to make new Law, not just vote for. The leaders shoudl also be elected and come from the political parties, so The Comission needs to go as well.
The EU should become a federation. In the world as it is developing the small countries of Europe are dwarfed and week co.peard to the growing superpowes. Separated we will be at the mercy and whim of larger nations like the US, China, Russia and soon India and Brazil. United we instantly become a superpower and quit posebly the greatest superpower on the the planet and world hegemon. Our chois is to be separated on our knees or untied on our feet.
One challenge I think is worth noting is around collaborative spirit and transparency when forging the best path for this. Spoken languages seems like an essential bridge for people operating within given systems to form meaningful relations with each other
Short Response: No Long Response: Im a soberanist and I think the EU must be a exclusive political and economic union, that the members has full soberanity over their countries and as a spanish I rather be in a federal union and I would like to, with hispanic american countries than another European countries that see Spain as a tourism place, as a farm and nothing more.
Honestly, all the politics could go as well, EU is great since it allows for free travel and free traid, beyond thats it's more of a burden than a help
Hope you also happy with the video. We want to do a series going deeper into this topic if there is enough interest. This is just the first overview video
I don't think the EU will transform in a classical federation anytime soon. It would be closer to a confederation I would think. Getting countries to let go of individual foreign affairs and defense will be difficult though. And somehow I think US would have its reservation about an EU that operates as a more unified block and have the hard power to back it up. For Russia it would be a nightmare, which speaks in its favor a lot IMO.
A federal system would certainly see the EU become a global power like the US and China without a doubt. At the same time not everyone could be on board with having someone above them. Unlike other federations, an EU federation would be a real anomaly. Each member state is so different that it is hard to imagine these countries willingly surrendering their sovereignty. In a federal system, there is only one country and several states. Also in the US, you can move from Alaska to Florida and the people will be mostly the same. If you just move from France to Italy, its like being dumped into an alien civilization
The problem with this topic is that it is not technically debated. If not, it is already put into an ideological framework, "to be European is to be leftist." Then it can no longer be debated. For example: I am a Europeanist but I don't want a project without cultural identity and open borders, it seems that the EU only has those policies. So I have to vote for anti-European federation parties, but with better policies regarding education, culture and immigration. I don't know if I explained my point well.
The only people who frame it ideologically are the far/hard right, tho. They are the one coming out of the woodwork and claiming that the EU is a leftist project that will and can only do leftist things. The EPP has been trying to strengthen the EU while keeping a right wing approach on many of the issues you mentioned, but they are called soft leftist by the patriots and some conservative-reformists. The EU became the scapegoat of everything the hard right does not like about the state of their respective countries and they are the ones making support for the EU an ideological battle
Definitely. Me as eurorealist rightwinger I would definitely be more pro EU if EU would be more right wing. For example that shit with 30% of gender representation in executives? Don't we have enough shitty undemocratic bureaucratic law which goes against the best system "meritocracy"?
Same here. I am generally pro-EU but I despise left-wing politics, and my country (Poland) is more right-wing than EU average. So I bite the bullet and support Poland's place in the EU but not a stronger EU because it has too many leftists in the West who will outvote me.
expanding the EU has 0 impact on "cultural identity" and would make anti-immigration policies easier. It's currently ruled by neocons (not leftists) btw.
I believe the EU should be more like it was in the 90s, focusing on free trade and the common market, with less bureaucracy and fewer regulations. Back then, the EU was growing, but now it's stagnating under the weight of excessive regulations. Centralization, in my view, is a dead end. The EU should take a step back, reduce its institutions that overlap with national ones, and drastically cut the number of officials and regulations. At the moment, it feels like an inefficient system that "heroically fights" against problems it often creates itself.
The problem here is that with the U.S., Russia, China and India you have countries that buy into various countries and make those to vassal countries that have to do what these demand. If you want to keep your independence you need to face those countries not only with a strong business area but also with a common jurisdiction and political system. Alone most countries ca't really challenge any of those countries. The issue though is, that the EU tries to regulate things that seem like a waste of time like the classification on how curved bananas have to be and the like. And then you have plenty of well-paid politicians who earn a bit extra by lobbying for private run international organizations which in the end cost the European tax payers more. The real problem of the EU though are the respective national interests which clearly vary from country to country and which right-wing parties use to discredite anything agreed upon by EU officials. These are IMO the cancer EU will die from ultimately as their own interests are above everything, even when it costs lots and lots of people their opportunities and (potential) wealthfare.
I think that in Europe's case being united while also being diverse is one of its many strenghts and that a federation style of governing would work against it.
First thing needed for the birth of an European Federation is that all Europeans speak a common language, which could be english. A federal Europe should not become a geopolitical rival of the United States because we all are Westerners, along with the Canadians, the Australians, and so on. I hope that Russia will also join the community of Western nations in a not so distant future.
No. My only reason is because whilst it’s great that Europe is more united and connected than ever before, we all still speak different languages and have different cultures and national identities. Spain is very different to Poland and Germany is very different to Greece, Romania is again different to France which is also very different compared to Italy. Also there are still some divides between eastern and Western Europe, despite the fall of communism over 30 years ago. Clearly noticeable differences.
5:06 es increíble la presencia de España en norte américa también. La gente tiende a pensar que España solo controlaba la mayoría de sudamérica pero se olvidan que también lo hacían en norteamérica
I have multiple european nationalities so I always felt more european than any one of them. I live in Switzerland and I always thought that the swiss model of federalism could work for the eu as when you think about it, they are not so dissimilar in their hostory and sytuation, just at a different scale
Thank you! Do more simular videos! How about the best system, an EU educatiob system I’m an adult now. Since I’m 11 I’m dreaming of the United States of Europe!
well they are also doing so well in the USA, not heading for something close to a civil war ,not in anyway hated by 80% of the world because they want to destroy everybody , by the way if EU is going for Federation you can be sure the USA will attack because they don't allow any competition , we will be their new enemy , they already view EU as a possible threat
Thanks for the content! As always great graphics and visualizations! I'm also of the opinion we should go into a more federal model, however, due to the highly different cultures, and also very important, the lack of a common language (although India doesn't have a true common language), I feel it will not be possible... Also, please go deep into the swiss model please, I am not familiar with it
I dont support it. As a Portuguese I know very well what is like to be alienated in coalitions. Also my country is culturally similar to spain or brazil but not with germany. We also have a soft power relation to Portuguese speaking nations. For defense, Nato is enough.
Greek here. Mostly Germans, French and the Benelux countries seem to want this. Completely assimilating us and having their ideals pushed onto us. They already do this with the EU. We dont need more. Especially now that anti-EU groups are gaining traction.
I don't know if the EU should become a federation or not, but clearly things need to change in the EU if the EU countries want to be competitive with the US and China long term. There are many ways EU countries can go about achieving this with further integration and federation isn't the only way, but EU countries need to wake up and face reality that if we don't change, we are going to get left behind, and there will be a price to pay for that when it comes to protecting our interest, politically, economically and social. In other words, we've been able to protect our interest in all 3 areas because of banding together through the EU, we are going to have to do more of that over the coming decades if we want to protect our interest long term, and whether we like it or not, the EU has been a counter-balance to US capitalism, without it, we very likely would have weaker policies when it comes to social programs, workers rights, trade deals and countless other things, basically, the US would get its way far more with EU countries if it wasn't for the EU, and by extension, would put pressure on other modern countries to weaken social programs more in line with the US, mainly to further US interest and especially corporate interest, the EU being strong enough has kept the US at bay, but that won't last forever unless EU countries get there act together. There are 3 paths going forward with the world, you've got the US of pure capitalism, which quite frankly, is a sinking ship, especially with the rise of A.I. and robotics over the coming decades, then we have the EU which is capitalism but a more humane version of it with lots of social programs, rights and protections, then we have China, not really much to say on that one, but I highly doubt many around the world would want to follow that kind of leadership, and I pity the fools that do, so the EU and the US are the only logical ones, the EU has been winning out in the sense that almost all modern countries apart from the US are social democracies, with a lot of social programs and protections, but if the EU starts to falter, pressures will likely build from the US on all those countries to weaken those policies for US corporate interest, so people need to wake up in EU countries before the balance tips too far away that it's too late. As for where powers should be when it comes to the EU and it's members, I think some powers are better suited at the EU level whereas others are suited at the members level, forign policy, border control, immigration and a few other areas are clearly better suited at an EU level, but there are other policies that would be fine at a members level, either way, we need to be working much closer together if we want to protect our interest and stay competitive on the world stage, and the current model is clearly not working, so more integration in key areas are needed, and I wonder how far the EU and its members have to fall behind on the world stage before we realise that things need to change.
It has too to compete on the global stage and the UK needs to be asked to rejoin ASAP. If the EU asked the UK to rejoin then people would take to the streets demanding we do it. The brexiteers are a minority now and dying off quickly. They are loud but dying.
Why are you so interested in the EU, Switzerland is doing fine by not being in the EU. Are you one of those leftists who want to flood Europe with migrants
Nah... Would be beautiful ❤️ Europe Nations speak one common voice But some countries are very bossy (not Leaders) see last meeting in Germany about Ukraine, US, Germany, France... Not sure if Germany and France want are team players.
Europe should become some sort of soft federation, but it's important that the internal political powers are balanced, It mustn't become some sort of German fourth Reich or Second Napoleonic France. After the brexit, Germany and France are the main powers inside the EU, and all the big european istitutions are placed beetwen their borders. There are other big countries like Italy, and maybe Spain and Poland, who needs too make their voices louder inside the EU, in order to prevent an unbalanced Union.
The best way to make sure it's not Franco german dominated is to increase the EU parliaments power over member states there's more non-french/german voters than french/germans ones
Absolute horrendous idea. People have different cultures and languages. Impossible to unite. The euro has not helped Italy. Also would the italian economy fall then rich countires would have to pay hundreds of billions of euros each to save Italy. Germany is a weak economy that has deindustrialized and they’re a black hole since they have no nuclear power plants. Also EU is a brutal bureacuracy where nothing happends. Things happends in the US, Russia, India, China, Brics etc. The EU is far behind and cannot do anything to change that UK will have to reform their economy and they are expanding to trading in the Indian ocean. While the EU falls behind. The rise of populist parties will continue as the EU becomes more tyrannical with chat control, hate speech laws, surveillance in cars and more power centering the EU
EU federalization would be impossible to achieve at least for the next 30-40 years minimum. The cultural differences between east-west and south-north are just way too big at the moment, you'll never get people to agree on that, especially older folks who are over 50 years old. I think whats more important currently is for the EU to seek higher military integration/cooperation or something like assembling a combined EU military force (that works alongside each nation's own military) which does not require a federal union to function and which is also not overly dependent on the US.
A federal united Europe would be a powerhouse on the global stage, but I’m afraid it wouldn’t be popular in favour of short term, individual goals that populists would go for instead.
I think it would surpass China, being second only to the USA
😂😂😂 you actually believe that 😂😂😂
I don't want to be in the same nation as those odious racist poles and hungarians.
Kick them out of the Union and we can talk about it.
"Populist" = Democrats
@@Aerostarm You do know that was the purpose of the Euro and single European market which started in 2000? It started out pretty strong. But where has that gotten you lately....?
Together we rise, divided we fall
who are we?
iranians? syrians? afghans? who are we?
define WE
@@LukeSmith1984 I agree
@@0ptic0p22Europeans. Now GTFO
Europeans don't need a currupt, undemocratic, political experiment to be 'together'. Those of us old enough to know what Europe was like before 1993 have seen the EU project make the continent worse economically, culturally, and in security. As a massively pro European I can't wait for the day the project collapses.
Diversity is our strength 🤣
If Europe doesn’t want to be a U.S. or Russo-Chinese vassal region then some form of Federation is necessary.
let me guess, you want to be a french vassal
@@Tyu-f1stf are you talking about?!
@@metalsonn The EU is a Franco-German Axis that seeks to dominate the rest of Europe. As an EU citizen I do not wish to be ruled by either.
@@Tyu-f1s What are you going on about? x)
@@Tyu-f1s the French don’t have what it takes to control Europe, they surely wish they could, but they can’t
We as Europeans should be sick and tired of being poker chips that the big boys can play around with. It’s time for us to take a seat at the table and individual European states won’t be able to do it alone. I’m not saying we should give up are national identities however we should unite in some way to become more powerful on the global scale.
Well, you guys were outcompeting the US in like the early 2000s and suddenly stopped and now are about to fall behind China
This we should do
Eu and their idiocy is why Europe is so weak.
@@marcinm2871in fact just a few things to solve.
Blessed Be the Fruit !
If only the majority thought like that... to make people understand that it's not by staying 27 little individual gardens - arguing over bullshit - that we should actually - collectively - create - a mega forest with a big Wall and say fuck off to all the other empires dreaming of getting their hands on the little gardens...
As a french reducing the power of the french state and the privileges of the french political oligarchy would be enough to convince me to support the idea of a european federation.
Same as an Italian haha
@ the problem might remain as it would be just transposed to the european level as most of the western politicians are crooked traitors
And what if the fédéral eu became an oligarchy just like the US right now ?
It would not. It would just move the oligarchy to an EU institution and give them power not just over France, but the entire continent. It would make it much easier for them to cooperate and consolidate with their counterparts in other countries.
@@zefft.f4010the EU is based more on a "Social-Democrat" / humanist system. So *NO*. That oligarchy-like in the USA won't happen here as we must "Confederalize" firsthand before becoming a "Federation"
It would be funny to adopt a swiss model when Switzerland isnt a part of it 😂
Look at me! I am the Switzerland now!
the advantage of it would be that they could then merge, without necessarily one joining the other, because they would be the same.
Some might say that Switzerland joined the EU, because EU would be bigger, but then others can easily claim that EU joined Switzerland, because Switzerland is older, while technically they would just be cold welded.
I believe the current mood in Europe would be to have an enlarged Switzerland. Rich and stable country, but not too much to say in global affairs.
@@nydydnlay down the grass😂
The swiss model for EU would maybe make it attractive for Switzerland to join indeed!
The EU at the moment is like the holy roman empire, surrounded by large unified states, that we are struggling to compete with. India, china, brazil, the EAC, the USA, or ASEAN.
And when they united they become a global power ie Germany
The histories of different EU countries are too long and rich to unite into a federation. Not to mention most of them were constantly fighting each other in the past. Inevitably nationalism will get in the way.
ASEAN is much less of a union than the EU...
@@JM-cu6ex Germany is just a mirage, it has no way of producing electricity without resorting to its coal-fired power stations, importing gas to replace coal would ruin it and it does not want nuclear power. It is the chronicle of an inevitable decline.
@@gawkthimm6030 so far. Give it 30 years and that will change. I think the EAC becoming a federal state, will happen first of the three.
I would love a federal EU. United we can stand alongside the US and China, divided we are helpless.
I think the same 😀 Federal EU = Strong Europa
either way it will happen. we can have a peaceful integration or some country decides to start a war and ends up uniting europe or they unite europe themselves
Suuure, more troublesome EU overreach and supression of the national identity and culture!
Just what the Eastern Europeans want! (sarcasm)
At this moment we're united in destroying our economy. We're almost like the Roman empire at its last years. Still standing but about to collapse at any moment.
I agree men Europe can be very powerful if they work together made economic business but they don’t understand how economic work only some nations like Germany know
Yes but keep the current flag, it kicks ass.
Really? I think it lacks meaning and historical president. Its so simpel and trying to appeal to everyone it is blank and without soul imo... I would actually be in favor of turing the stars into a sun with as many beams as memberstates. Like the Oriflamme of Charlemagne (who is already dubbed the father of modern europe).
True
fr the EU flag is goated
Finally! Someone that recognizes that the Swiss style of government would be perfect for many other countries in like in this case, the EU.
Especially, the executive being multiple heads of state, comprised of all major parties and usually with every region/language represented. They each lead a department/ministry, but work and vote as one executive body with only a symbolic yearly rotating 'president' title.
Adapting this to the EU, would make sure every major party and countries/regions feels represented and coalision get formed on a topic by topic basis, and not to form a government. (Thus avoiding the typical 'government vs. opposition' issues.)
You will love tomorrows video :)
as a Pole, i'd like it. Combined we have our flaws, but also we're stronger.
Yes!! We are all Europeans we must stick together
@@ninototo1 no
@@ninototo1 🤡
@@CroatianUltraNationalist its silly to believe your country can survive on its own. Croatia is insignificant
@@ninototo1 and turning it into a colony will help us? we dont care about the global events we care about our local politics and problems and we care about our culture very much, just because you dont give a damn about yours does not mean we have to live in the same house as you
i really stand behind the idea of a federal EU. I voted for VOLT last election, a PAN- European party. As someone posted here already: "Together we rise, divided we fall"
i would take the fall than
@@RogueEva then please don't drag everyone else along
@@edik2507 why would i? my country would never agree with nonsense like that, i'm chill :) also, we're good in falling together
Man, I also voted Volt. And the way I see it, only going Federal EU can prosper.
If we want to survive 21. the st century we need a federal and more democratic Europe🇪🇺💪
Volt is the only party that campaigns for such necessary reforms🙏
Huh, a super-Switzerland. I like that idea.
Maybe EU states should simply leave the union and join the Confederatio Helvetica! :D
Surrounding Switzerland too since no way in hell they're joining until it's just them left. So Switzerland surrounded by mega Switzerland.
@@mahovonnishizumi3636Joining would be the stupidest thing Switzerland could do.
With this WEF,s idea you will not have swiss democracy. They want only a dictature and more money for them,elites
@@SapereAude1490 Or a super Belgium, i don't like that idea.
As a romanian, I strongly advocate for a federalist EU. We have a common identity as europeans, together we can.
Romanias biggest export to the rest of EU: criminals. Enough said.
That'd be a huge change and I think it is probably hard to completely oversee that change. But I would LOVE feeling more united to the rest of Europe.
-Greetings from The Netherlands 🙋🏻♀️
I hope to see a series going deeper into this topic, I absolutely love these types of videos
If this video gets >50k then a more detailed video will follow ;)
Same, support unity!
@@EUMadeSimple I would like more details. How exactly would you resolve the issue with monarchies, separatism, self-determination, language, religion. Would France be one state or would Bavaria be a state on equal footing (as it already is a state within Germany), would there be some sort of electoral college for election of a president?
@@EUMadeSimpleit would be interesting to see the benefits that full federalism would bring to individual aspects, like you’ve done with the military; make vids about tech, energy, finances, etc
@@EUMadeSimplestart working on it , it’s already at 46k 😂
The Federal system is the best path for Europe, Imagine if Italy wants to make Marijuana legal but Finland does not. The Federal system allows for each to make their own local laws based on local population desires, and also have a unified central Government on top to share resources for better and more powerful military, and decision making, foreign relations, taxation, centralized spending on infrastructure that connects all of the EU together. Imagine if EU was able to collect EU wide taxes and fund big highway expansion to connect EU countries better. Just look at how bad the roads are connecting Czechia to Germany, let alone the rest of the EU, this leads to lack of efficiency, if you want to increase the economic power of Europe the easiest way is to pool resources for common goal to build faster, better connected EU. Less differences of taxes and cross border issues. Open the doors.
Or properly built and fund international train travel to cut on CO2 emissions when travelling across the continent.
Don't forget culture, language,religion, history, i think, it is a hard to make like USA.
I don't want marijuana legal.
It's the stupidest thing ever.
@IsabelCurso I love the mafia as well
Imagine if the EU didn’t exist how good the European nations would be now
I would like it, from an Italian
anche ioooo
Me too, as a Portuguese.
sparutissima minoranza
Brother! I think we are many more than we think
@@guerreiro943 Angola é vossa (lol)
If EU becomes a federation many contries will leave.
That's fine. They will have to follow the rules set by big guys anyway. It's how it is - you can be alone, but your power diminishes a lot then. Belarus plays as Russia wants, Mexico or Canada can't have any policy that is not good for US. It's just live - if you are small you have to obey big ones.
@@adaslesniak Yes, to some extent. But countries that have their finances in order don't want to pay taxes to countries that don't.
@@adaslesniak Retirement age France 62 years. Retirement age Denmark 67 years.
@@erikrahbekstergaard1402 Never said it's easy. But we still have some common budget. One thing I can imagine is creating corporation tax for companies that have more than 100 million revenue annually and sell their products to many countries - those corporations are already too big to be controlled by a government and they affect whole EU. And it would ease race to the bottom where no one can tax the companies as they will move to another country.
@@erikrahbekstergaard1402 Federation doesn't need to have single personal tax rate, nor the same retirment age, nor the same land tax. I believe US has it backward - companies should be taxed on federal level so states can compete by providing best workforce and best life for educated workforce, not by undercutting tax income and public services.
As a Pole, hell NO! I don't want to pay for failed policies made somewhere in Brussels where no one knows who is responsible for them. Europe before taking into politics should solve it's economical problems. No net zero, but GDP. No regulation but competitiveness. No illegal immigration but stimulating own demographics.
What happened in 1939 ?
@@hanshawks5088Round 2 available by 2039
Poland benefitted immensely from EU membership,it's visible in Polish cities and villages as they never looked so great and poles never had such a quality of life.But being jealous moaners Poles cannot recognise how good they have . Travel to US or UK to see how quickly things can get worse.
You want to lay for failed policies made somewhere in Warsaw only 😃 Do you think that Poland wold be where it is right now if stayed outside the EU?
In a market without regulations working people will only ever get exploited. Even more so than they are now already. Do you really want a market without regulations? You should reconsider what you wrote. I'd argue that especially because money can get transferred easily from one location to the other without losing much, if even so, there need to be stronger regulations which make it harder for the mega corporations or ultra-rich people to transfer their business from one day to the other to some other country easily and therefore make hundret of people unemployed over night. A European ountry acting on its own is here simply to weak to tackle that alone.
Also, you ask for solving immigration and then don't want Brussels for establishing EU wide rules and regulations and to basically use Frontex to push back immigrants at EU borders to the countries they actually came from? So, in the end Italy will have to deal with those 100k refugees on its own basically just because it so happens to be the EU country people from Africa usually reach first? Your comment contains quite some double standards IMO. Granted, Poland has probably the highest number of Ukraine refugees but that has something to do with locality. If Germany would border Ukraine it probably would have received a higher proportion of refugees themselves though those people now would have to go through Poland to get to Germany and even there lots of people are already fed up of being the target country most refugees want to move to. Besides that plenty of countries along the so called Balkan route already have had to take on plenty of refugees during the Syrian war and plenty of those people have not return since. Italy still suffers from plenty of African people to land on their shores while other countries like Hungary and so forth refuse to take on even a couple of migrants while still requesting billions of € as support payment. Those refugees are a general European problem not one of Poland, Germany or Italy alone and as such there should be an EU wide decision on how those people should be handled and that each and every country basically takes on their fair share on treating those. If Poland would be invaded by Russia tomorrow you'd probably also hope that Germany (or any other EU state you move to) will provide you accomodation and food during the invasion.
In the end, most former east-block countries are de-facto net-receivers in terms of EU funding to bring their local infrastructure up to Western standards and to improve their economy to make them stronger on the international market. That of course also makes those countries then more attractive for migration. And yes, there are lots of funded projects which are litearlly a waste of money, though those decisions usually happen on local levels. I.e. some years ago the countryside area where my parents live got a train connection financed by EU fundings. They laid tracks and build a couple of train stops both for human passengers and some freight terminals that for sure must have cost several 100m € just to have the train company stop any trains going to that area two month later as it wasn't profitable "enough"! It was profitable though they made more money on other routes and thus in order to maximize profits they simply cut that region completely. Without EU fundings this project probably would never have been realized and thus lots of € could have been spared. On the other hand, if the local train company would have been fine with the profits it made, the whole region could be connected now to basically the rest of Europe and thus provide graceful conditions to lots of people who moved to that area.
A video on how applying the Swiss model to the EU would be very appreciated. Thank you for this introduction to European federalisation :)
Agreed! I think the Swiss model is great and would improve democracy at an EU level.
Yes! Let's turn the EU into a super CH! :))))
"On the Swiss model": how ironic since Switzerland is strongly against joining the EU.
Yeah let’s go for cuckoo clock
Yeah let’s go for cuckoo clock
Simple answer: no we are all too different to ever make it possible to unite.
as an irishman i think a federation would be too far but yeah man wee need to collaborate closer & more efficiently as a continent for sure
The EU needs to be improved (as does any organisation) and closer cooperation would be good but a federal state would be a disaster.
@@fintonmainz7845 and @mmcworldbuilding5994 - two very sensible comments. Cooperation, openness, freedom of movement, freedom to belong to a culture and/or ethnicity etc. YES. A deep power hierarchy where an insanely large "parliament", with members who are very distant from their voters, and "one-size-fits-all" politics, NO! I voted NO to the Maastricht treaty in 1992, and I will fight anything that threatens Danish sovereignty. For example, we don't have one minimal wage in Denmark, because the labour market is negotiated between workers in unions and the employee organisations on the other side. Our system works fine, which our good economy proves. I don't want the EU to be able to change this.
Same, but tbf Ireland already consolidates too much in Dublin, I imagine counties like Donegal will be left somehow more forgotten if the decisions are pushed even further away lol
Ireland itself counts close to nothing. Without federation we cannot run any strategy against big players, and tell me, what are you gonna do if big companies will move its HQs from Dublin? You're tax haven, have barely no heavy industry, so what are you gonna do when europe looses its importance? A fishery? Are you good at fishing?
@kolakpatolik1857 gibberish.
Imagine if the EU didn't push for immigration the last few years. We would've been so much closer to an united Europe.
The hate towards immigrants will bring true Europeans even closer together. However, there would most certainly be chaos along the way.
You mean the last few decades?
Closer, but not quite there yet. Maybe if it also didn't push for LGBTQ which started a whole cultural war to which different nations react in different ways.
Denmark always has strict immigration rules WHILE in the EU. So, yeah, let's blame national incompetence on the usual scapegoat again. The UK tried that.
As a Swiss citizen I am biased but I think Europe should really take inspiration from us. We've reached a really good balance of power between the Federal government and the States (Cantons). Also, the collegial system of governance works nicely and brings stability.
What the official language of Federal Europe would be ?
People wouldn’t be willing to lose their national sovereignty.
I know it’s a silly idea - but how about Latin?
Remember espéranto ? Yeah me neither
American English. The United States would be more cooperative. I am not biased. Wink wink.
@@Ryan0556 USA would be the first to not want the union haha
@@keller1808
What about non-latin, slavic speakers?
Why not Church Slavonic?
You know a United States of Europe would be pretty ironic but kinda impossible since there’s so many differences in culture throughout Europe that even if you united Europe like completely then it would have to accommodate a heavily diverse culture.
But like what’s the point if there’s already a European Union that already is enough I think
Great video! Thank you very much again all team of Eu Made Simple
As a "european citizen" this would create a Post Tito Yugoslavia rich with ethnic and religious tension. In the short term it would be benefitial indeed, but the state can't even with luck and extreme competency last longer then 40 years and it's dissolution would put the Yugoslav Wars to shame.
Calling the Destruction of Yugoslavia a "dissolution" is an insult to intelligence and morality.
this is either the greatest idea or the worst war thats coming
Eh, if this is how Federalization would be defined, then it's not a super bad concept.
It's still bad, terrible even, but at least would not immediately lead to a civil war due to the differences.
Here's just a couple:
- Getting France and Germany to agree on nuclear wont happen.
- French Laïcite would have Poland and Sweden condemn it. Poland because Religion is big there and core to Polish identity, and Sweden because Laïcite is not truly secular as it only guarantees freedom from religion but not freedom of religion.
- Sweden and Denmark would not agree on migration and asylum policy with Sweden being really open (to its detriment as a Swede) while Denmark is more controlled.
- The Netherlands would not agree to EU criminalizing Weed at its courts.
Etc, etc. We have multiple, multi-dimensional differences that cannot be reconciled. Doing so would only lead to hatred of entire nations of people. It doesn't work. Heed the warning of the Kalmar Union.
We can be neighbors, but we're better of as neighbors and not as roommates.
Separate we stand, united we fall.
absolutely right not to mention drastically different foreign policies, mentalities and attitudes that evolved as a consequence of thousand of years of history.
There are no rational reasons not to federalize Europe.
Just imagine how much more effective everything would be. Take the military for example. Instead of having 27 expensive army organizations there would be only 1.
And now think if you did the same for taxation, foreign affairs, law enforcement, judiciary, health and welfare, transport and infrastructure, energy and environment, intelligence and security, economic regulation, education, immigration.
The money that would be saved would be astronomical. Our continent would see massive growth again for the first time in two decades. We would actually be able to solve problems instead of just discussing them for 10 years. We could go our own way as a continent, and not have to be slaves to whoever the Americans vote into office.
The only reason not to do this is because of our patriotic feelings. I say we move those patriotic feelings out to Europe's borders instead. Make Europe Great Again.
@@sokobian on the contrary, there's no rational reasons to federalize Europe.
Everything would be far less effective, as different Nations want entirely different things and have different needs of their populations. Not to mention different ways of wanting to do things.
Add that the taxed money of nations not going towards their own prosperity but rather that of another nation in the federation would be worse than what it is already, and the ability to fight back against this tyranny would be entirely on national lines, causing frictions and tensions to be far worse.
We have seen smaller unions like this plenty of times in European history: the Kalmar Union, Yugoslavia, and the Soviet Union, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and heck, even on a smaller scale we have Czechoslovakia and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. They didn't last due to ethnic, cultural, and national differences. At best, a Federalized Europe could hold together until the sense of threat keeping it together is gone, be it Russia, China, or Iran, but once those are off the table, very little will be keeping a federalized Europe together, not even a united economy or infrastructure as proven throughout history including modern history.
While the EU does need reform to make all our nations prosperous and great again, don't pretend that reform can only be by federalizing. There's plenty of ways to reform the EU while keeping this "Confederate" nature intact.
Separate we stand, united we fall.
@@sokobian not wanting your men to be taken to Burkina Faso to kill or to force children to work in mines to put gold in France's banks is a very rational reason, not to mention a humanistic one. France and many other western Eu countries still have overseas territories, essentially never having stop colonialism, only rebranding it. We eastern Europeans would never surrender our autonomy to foreign powers, not after fighting for hundreds of years to obtain independence. If you want to play empires, that's on you, keeps us out of it.
Honestly, a Kalmar Union V2 would have a much greater chance of success than a EU country, but yeah, Denmark and Norway has to agree to our outrageous crimerates from reckless immigration, I'd guess Norway would like to keep their Oil and so on.. But IF that worked out we are more or less the same people, same history, same flag (more or less), almost the same language, similar culture and the same national religion and so on..
Yeah everyone who watches this channel would say yes. But I talk to people at my uni, sometimes bringing this up and many rly just don't see the EU as much more than an economic block yet. They also have no idea how much regulation comes from EU and not the Nation itself. For people to surrender more responsibility to an EU level, like defense, the EU needs ALOT more marketing.
Where are you from? It depends completely on the country of origin. And also it depends on how you word it. Most people wouldn't like a 'European federation' because it sounds like "European Superstate", but they'd be completely fine with removing the veto system, a unified fiscal and foreign policy and army
I agree, the eu needs to up it's marketing of such ideas.
More money is needed for media campaigns to sell the idea and better
@@fra604 Yeah, one common trend I've seen in this comment section is that comparing it to Switzerland really resonates with people. If you say "European Federation" or "European Superstate", they recoil, but if you say "European Super-Switzerland" then people are like oh that's so cool.
@@falsevacuum4667 cuz people are ignorant to what federation really means
@@falsevacuum4667 Yeah, I've made it a point to call the idea "European Switzerland" whenever it comes up in discussions (especially online)
My opinion is that it works in US predominantly because they have a common language which unites them. Unity comes with clear communication. Unfortunately for EU, there is no common language. Nothing whatsoever which would be common and unite them. Except for the fact they are happening to be living in Europe. But that’s like arguing all countries in Asia should be a federation because they are on one landmass
The United States does not have an official language at the federal level. English is the de facto language used for government and most official functions, but there is no law making it the official language. This reflects the country’s diverse linguistic heritage.
Spanish is the second most spoken language in the United States, with a significant portion of the population using it as their primary language. It's prominent in many regions, particularly in states like California, Texas, Florida, and New York.
In the EU there is also a kind of de facto language. You guess it, English. Although not in the same manners as in the US.
Programs like Erasmus, and other future "federal level" programs like joint military schools, would enforce the feeling of unity and citizenship.
There is a layer of youth in Europe that feels more European with free movement, etc.
I think federalism is unavoidable.
@@luisPcordeiroyou must be living in a different EU, if you have ever been to a government office or any other normal function in day to day life in Germany, France or Italy, they always use their own language, in fact they kind of frown upon English speakers. Italy even introduced a law banning any use of English words in official tasks. There won’t ever be an EU federation. In fact countries are moving towards nationalism at the moment.
@sajithdilshan Well, I can't speak for other countries,
but I've visited and worked in several and survived.
In 2024, there is technology to facilitate communication in other languages. This will improve further.
Look at us right now...
@@sajithdilshan italy didn't introduce no such thing. it was a draft proposed by one guy from the ruling party and it was left in the closet right after the whole country took a good laugh at it.
@@luisPcordeiro I think you said it perfectly, you survived with English. If you wanna live there long term you need to learn native language. For almost all Europeans their national language is a source of pride. Also legally in some areas they are even prohibited to provide services if you don’t understand the native language. As an example a German bank can refuse to give you a loan if you don’t understand German because the contract is in German and legally you are only allowed to sign it once you’ve read and understood it.
Coming back to original point, there is absolutely no common language, religion, ethnicity or any other factor which unites all EU countries and in fact they are far better being individual states than answering to Brussels
Whatever system the Eu brings in, it would not work for the simple fact that EACH COUNTRY ONLY WANTS TO BE PART OF THE CLUB but don’t want to lose its integrity/culture/language/etc…
Take the US as an example, every state feels AMERICAN, each individual from different states feel AMERICAN.
People speack the same language, love the national anthem, every American does the same thing regardless the state, we have one MILITARY, Our constitution governs all of us.
The Eu, on the other hand, they don’t have that mentality of patriotism.
The EU should only focus on Economic rather than political issues.
Except almost each country is loosing identity and culture. Native populations are becoming minorities.
Uno reverse on the EU. Union of Sovereign European Republics. USSR for Europe.
EU is so close to fulfilling the dreams of little mustache man
Sovereign in the USSR? Except for Russia probably all other countries in the "Soviet Union" were puppet states at best which had to do what Russia told them to do. If not they just came by with their tanks to restore their power, like in Hungary 1956 and Tschechoslovakia 1968.
Thank you for bringing the Articles of Confederation up. As an American, I’ve long thought that Europe’s current status mirrors that of the Thirteen Colonies. The Articles provide a useful example of why the E.U., at present, is highly dysfunctional, and the Constitutional Convention of 1789 provides some valuable lessons in how those problems were (partially) solved. I’d recommend the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, a series of articles for and against the Constitution, as further reading for the interested. The authors are big names: Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, among others.
I think most of the EU scepticism comes from the fact that the EU is way too centralized. The EU bureaucracy has a life of its own as a separate, above national government entity. This leads to total political dead end as we see in so many countries with numerous parties in the Parliaments and devided societies. No original political idea other then what is said in Brussels. There are objective indications that such model doesn't work. Further centralization will just increase the Euroscepticism. Not to mention that we already saw this scenario with Yugoslavia and the USSR.
Малко наизуст си говорите. Иначе от нефункционални модели се хората се учат. Ако Югославия се разпадна заради простотията на народът си, корумпираният социализъм и див национализъм, то при Швейцария си вирее федералният модел.
Nope. EU is not a country but an over glorified trading block.
As a Ukrainian, whose country is moving towards the EU, I don't want us to get there and then run away from the USSR 2.0 out of fear, or sabotage its work.
I am not sure that I have the right to dictate how it is better or to criticize, but I want to express myself. Not ready to consider my opinion, stop, do not read further, do not force yourself.
The current EU does not work as effectively as it could, but only dictatorships, countries populated by migrants and small unions of countries, which are much easier to govern than would be the case with the EU, are more effective.
European countries should not give up their sovereignty, especially cultural (in the broadest sense of the term), the world can lose too much. I ask you to approach this issue very responsibly. The pursuit of efficiency in the economic and military spheres should not lead to the fact that Europe will turn into a place where only rootless cosmopolitans will live comfortably.
Cooperation of independents, cooperation of those who work together for a better present and future. This is how I want to see the EU to which we aspire. You should look for ways to resolve problems and disagreements faster, not how to stop negotiating.
As a German, I do not want Ukraine in EU. We already paid too much money to Ukraine. If they join EU, we will pay them next 20-30 years more....
@@XY-uc1tw Your position has the right to exist. I hope that by the time the issue of our entry becomes relevant and reaches the level of discussion by societies, we will be able to show people that we have something to offer you.
We'll be happy with a federation, only when every country in the EU will have the same wages and more or less same prices... Like Dominik Tarczynski said: "Germany and russians they want to drink Dom Perignon and they want us to drink water, that is the difference. So if they want us to have a lunch together and split de bill, they have to eat the same thing and drink the same thing, the club means that we are equal, we have the same rights and the same duties.". So until that happens, I think most of us will never be ok with a European Federation... Also they are already too implicated in our contries laws... Which they shouldn't be able to do, but if you don't agree with them, they just sanction you to submission...
th-cam.com/video/TYSX2vI7oPk/w-d-xo.html Word by word, from the man himself, as source. And no, I'm not polish, I just agree with the man.
The major problem with this is how every country is structured differently. For the EU to start enforcing something like that would mean certain systems would collapse. Like the Scandinavian model, where wages are dealt with by employers and unions, with little government interference.
Democracy in this "European federation" would be almost impossible due to the huge difference in language, culture, and development differences in the different countries. Basically every country will vote for their candidate, thus leading for the country with the highest population to always win (currently Germany, unless Russia somehow enters EU). So these candidates will also don't have any incentive to help all other countries.
BULLSHIT democracy was fine before USA tried to Globalise
Absolutely not. This would be a disaster. Even the USA are very divided right now and Europe is even more diverse.
All those naïve and 15 years old saying stuff like "Together we rise, divided we fall" or "Diversity is our strenght" don't understand a thing about how empires rise, work and die.
Yes this supranational super structure would be very powerful but very authoritarian too, it would have an imperial center (Germany, which is the imperial center of the EU right now) who would dictates its will to others.
You don't need a genius to know that United we are stronger! I am not saying it's going to be perfect but it's much more better off than being divided! All the research evidence shows that clearly! And all the Political, economical and social cruises should us this truth.. divided we fall!
USA is less divided than many EU countries. Their press makes it look worse than it is; and also, Europe has politicians that are way more extreme than Trump, look at the AFD!
@@kazomazo6646 you're either 15yo or stupid
Basically, most of the disadvantages of the merger are exaggerated or assumed, no one knows what will happen 🤔🤔 But still, the idea is good
The EU has been a bureaucratic nightmare from day one. There needs to be a massive democratic overhaul. The UK is a good example of how these little states of Europe cannot survive on their own.
Exactly, whichever governing model they choose, the EU needs to be less government without adding any more bureaucratic hurdles
When Europe wants to federalize, they should meet with America who could help them set up a functioning democracy
Actually, there are less civil servants working for the EU than for the city of London. The EU has cut far more red tape than it created. It is also already far more democratic than most of its members. But hey, keep reading the Mail.
@@iamtherealElite You speak in jest I assume? Let's introduce the Electoral College in Europe? The SCOTUS?
@@Conclusius68 ??????
As a Romanian, I'd support an European Federation
as a Dutch person, I don't.
Why?
@@luisPcordeiroI think he is scared of losing his country's identity. Tbh, the immigrants are already in.
@@henkmertens7120Nederland word toch steeds minder waard versus Oost Europa😂
@@luisPcordeiro because to big culturele differences.
The EU has so much potential, no matter what the “nay”-sayers say. “EU is an experiment”, “The EU is this/that”, wasn’t the US effectively an experiment too or even Australia? Different histories, different times, but “together we stay strong” has proven to work, despite difficulties, etc. is the US perfectly harmonious- you bet it isn’t. Sure, in the EU we have our differences, sure some divide us on East/West, and yes there are differences, but we have a lot in common too. Whoever thinks forging a strong union is easy, problem-free, and only benefits and no downsides is naive. Having traveled, lived and led an economically active live in multiple countries across Europe, I can say with a hand on my heart that I’ve always been welcomed by other folks from other European nations. I respect national differences and customs, and expect to be respected too - and so far have been.
yes, but it also needs to become more democratic
Completely agree, while all of this sounds great, without reforming to make the EU more transparent and democratic we should not move towards federalizing
it already is democratic
@freshguacer The EU parliament, despite being the only elected body by the EU population, has no power to actually implement anything. They can only do that if the council of ministers approve, i.e. one nation can just block the overwhelming will of the eu citizens. And ministers are not even chosen directly by the people of their own country. You can call that democratic if you want, I won't.
The people who are already making decisions in EU are heavily corrupted and manipulated. I can't imagine giving these people full autonomy that would be madness.
Yes please, but with more parties to vote for than just democrats and republicans.
That problem is due to the first-past-the-post voting system that favors a two-party system. The EU and most member states use parliamentarism and proportional representation which leads to a multi-party system.
More parties leads to fascism.
For EU to become a Federation it first needs a true Democratic System. Every Parliament in a Demoray needs to make new Law, not just vote for. The leaders shoudl also be elected and come from the political parties, so The Comission needs to go as well.
100% EU Needs reform first!
The Parliament does make laws. It can amend any law that comes before it and it has equal power to the member states to modify and pass legislation.
@@falsevacuum4667 It can not bring new legislation, only the Comission can.
@@G_Kchrst That doesn't contradict what I said at all
The EU should become a federation. In the world as it is developing the small countries of Europe are dwarfed and week co.peard to the growing superpowes. Separated we will be at the mercy and whim of larger nations like the US, China, Russia and soon India and Brazil. United we instantly become a superpower and quit posebly the greatest superpower on the the planet and world hegemon. Our chois is to be separated on our knees or untied on our feet.
One challenge I think is worth noting is around collaborative spirit and transparency when forging the best path for this. Spoken languages seems like an essential bridge for people operating within given systems to form meaningful relations with each other
Short Response: No
Long Response: Im a soberanist and I think the EU must be a exclusive political and economic union, that the members has full soberanity over their countries and as a spanish I rather be in a federal union and I would like to, with hispanic american countries than another European countries that see Spain as a tourism place, as a farm and nothing more.
Oh yeah, a Spanish NaZionalist spouting nosense about an hypothetical "Iberosfera" that no one is asking for.
Honestly, all the politics could go as well, EU is great since it allows for free travel and free traid, beyond thats it's more of a burden than a help
I was so happy with this notification 🎉
Hope you also happy with the video. We want to do a series going deeper into this topic if there is enough interest. This is just the first overview video
@EUMadeSimple thats very nice, i am absolutely enjoying the video
I don't think the EU will transform in a classical federation anytime soon. It would be closer to a confederation I would think. Getting countries to let go of individual foreign affairs and defense will be difficult though.
And somehow I think US would have its reservation about an EU that operates as a more unified block and have the hard power to back it up. For Russia it would be a nightmare, which speaks in its favor a lot IMO.
I also think that EU can't became federation, but can transform into like confederation, or something between federation and confederation.
Federal model in my opinion, but I think we will not get better soon or .. ever
A federal system would certainly see the EU become a global power like the US and China without a doubt.
At the same time not everyone could be on board with having someone above them. Unlike other federations, an EU federation would be a real anomaly. Each member state is so different that it is hard to imagine these countries willingly surrendering their sovereignty. In a federal system, there is only one country and several states.
Also in the US, you can move from Alaska to Florida and the people will be mostly the same. If you just move from France to Italy, its like being dumped into an alien civilization
The problem with this topic is that it is not technically debated. If not, it is already put into an ideological framework, "to be European is to be leftist." Then it can no longer be debated. For example: I am a Europeanist but I don't want a project without cultural identity and open borders, it seems that the EU only has those policies. So I have to vote for anti-European federation parties, but with better policies regarding education, culture and immigration. I don't know if I explained my point well.
The only people who frame it ideologically are the far/hard right, tho. They are the one coming out of the woodwork and claiming that the EU is a leftist project that will and can only do leftist things. The EPP has been trying to strengthen the EU while keeping a right wing approach on many of the issues you mentioned, but they are called soft leftist by the patriots and some conservative-reformists. The EU became the scapegoat of everything the hard right does not like about the state of their respective countries and they are the ones making support for the EU an ideological battle
Definitely. Me as eurorealist rightwinger I would definitely be more pro EU if EU would be more right wing. For example that shit with 30% of gender representation in executives? Don't we have enough shitty undemocratic bureaucratic law which goes against the best system "meritocracy"?
Same here. I am generally pro-EU but I despise left-wing politics, and my country (Poland) is more right-wing than EU average. So I bite the bullet and support Poland's place in the EU but not a stronger EU because it has too many leftists in the West who will outvote me.
@@varsoo1 What left wing policies do you hate and why? How does that apply to your life?
expanding the EU has 0 impact on "cultural identity" and would make anti-immigration policies easier.
It's currently ruled by neocons (not leftists) btw.
I believe the EU should be more like it was in the 90s, focusing on free trade and the common market, with less bureaucracy and fewer regulations. Back then, the EU was growing, but now it's stagnating under the weight of excessive regulations. Centralization, in my view, is a dead end. The EU should take a step back, reduce its institutions that overlap with national ones, and drastically cut the number of officials and regulations. At the moment, it feels like an inefficient system that "heroically fights" against problems it often creates itself.
The problem here is that with the U.S., Russia, China and India you have countries that buy into various countries and make those to vassal countries that have to do what these demand. If you want to keep your independence you need to face those countries not only with a strong business area but also with a common jurisdiction and political system. Alone most countries ca't really challenge any of those countries.
The issue though is, that the EU tries to regulate things that seem like a waste of time like the classification on how curved bananas have to be and the like. And then you have plenty of well-paid politicians who earn a bit extra by lobbying for private run international organizations which in the end cost the European tax payers more. The real problem of the EU though are the respective national interests which clearly vary from country to country and which right-wing parties use to discredite anything agreed upon by EU officials. These are IMO the cancer EU will die from ultimately as their own interests are above everything, even when it costs lots and lots of people their opportunities and (potential) wealthfare.
As a French person, I would prefer the second option. We are getting annoyed that Germany keeps voting against our energy projects
I think that in Europe's case being united while also being diverse is one of its many strenghts and that a federation style of governing would work against it.
First thing needed for the birth of an European Federation is that all Europeans speak a common language, which could be english. A federal Europe should not become a geopolitical rival of the United States because we all are Westerners, along with the Canadians, the Australians, and so on. I hope that Russia will also join the community of Western nations in a not so distant future.
Yeah - we in EU and Canadians and Australians are playing what US wants. We may be the same wide culture, but we definitely aren't united.
EU should become a federation, like the US or Switzerland
In Switzerland they speak several languages but the country still works very well
Switzerland is very small
Great overview, I fully support the idea of a federal EU, it makes practical sense and I hope it happens soon!
should go back to just being economic alliance
No. My only reason is because whilst it’s great that Europe is more united and connected than ever before, we all still speak different languages and have different cultures and national identities. Spain is very different to Poland and Germany is very different to Greece, Romania is again different to France which is also very different compared to Italy. Also there are still some divides between eastern and Western Europe, despite the fall of communism over 30 years ago. Clearly noticeable differences.
There acutally already is a paneuropean party. It is called Volt 💜
Let's make this future happen!
I am pretty sure that 90% of the European people should give an united "NO!" on this question!
Luckily again no unanimity 😅
Short answer, no.
I want a united Scandinavia, the Nordic Union.
And i want a cooperative europe, but not a one united europe.
yeah and lets call it: Sweden
No. It should just fold up and stop giving the rest of us headaches
5:06 es increíble la presencia de España en norte américa también. La gente tiende a pensar que España solo controlaba la mayoría de sudamérica pero se olvidan que también lo hacían en norteamérica
The world should become one giant country with a single dictator in charge.
More centralized is better! 👍
I have multiple european nationalities so I always felt more european than any one of them. I live in Switzerland and I always thought that the swiss model of federalism could work for the eu as when you think about it, they are not so dissimilar in their hostory and sytuation, just at a different scale
Thank you! Do more simular videos! How about the best system, an EU educatiob system I’m an adult now. Since I’m 11 I’m dreaming of the United States of Europe!
well they are also doing so well in the USA, not heading for something close to a civil war ,not in anyway hated by 80% of the world because they want to destroy everybody , by the way if EU is going for Federation you can be sure the USA will attack because they don't allow any competition , we will be their new enemy , they already view EU as a possible threat
But then football wouldn't be as fun to watch.....
Thanks for the content! As always great graphics and visualizations! I'm also of the opinion we should go into a more federal model, however, due to the highly different cultures, and also very important, the lack of a common language (although India doesn't have a true common language), I feel it will not be possible...
Also, please go deep into the swiss model please, I am not familiar with it
I dont support it. As a Portuguese I know very well what is like to be alienated in coalitions. Also my country is culturally similar to spain or brazil but not with germany. We also have a soft power relation to Portuguese speaking nations. For defense, Nato is enough.
I’m Irish and also don’t want it
Greek here. Mostly Germans, French and the Benelux countries seem to want this. Completely assimilating us and having their ideals pushed onto us. They already do this with the EU. We dont need more. Especially now that anti-EU groups are gaining traction.
Never, a very bad idee. I live in the Netherlands and I hope we will always stay a small sovereign country.
EU doesn't need federation. EU is good as it gets without it.
No
the video animation quality is so good man
I don't know if the EU should become a federation or not, but clearly things need to change in the EU if the EU countries want to be competitive with the US and China long term.
There are many ways EU countries can go about achieving this with further integration and federation isn't the only way, but EU countries need to wake up and face reality that if we don't change, we are going to get left behind, and there will be a price to pay for that when it comes to protecting our interest, politically, economically and social.
In other words, we've been able to protect our interest in all 3 areas because of banding together through the EU, we are going to have to do more of that over the coming decades if we want to protect our interest long term, and whether we like it or not, the EU has been a counter-balance to US capitalism, without it, we very likely would have weaker policies when it comes to social programs, workers rights, trade deals and countless other things, basically, the US would get its way far more with EU countries if it wasn't for the EU, and by extension, would put pressure on other modern countries to weaken social programs more in line with the US, mainly to further US interest and especially corporate interest, the EU being strong enough has kept the US at bay, but that won't last forever unless EU countries get there act together.
There are 3 paths going forward with the world, you've got the US of pure capitalism, which quite frankly, is a sinking ship, especially with the rise of A.I. and robotics over the coming decades, then we have the EU which is capitalism but a more humane version of it with lots of social programs, rights and protections, then we have China, not really much to say on that one, but I highly doubt many around the world would want to follow that kind of leadership, and I pity the fools that do, so the EU and the US are the only logical ones, the EU has been winning out in the sense that almost all modern countries apart from the US are social democracies, with a lot of social programs and protections, but if the EU starts to falter, pressures will likely build from the US on all those countries to weaken those policies for US corporate interest, so people need to wake up in EU countries before the balance tips too far away that it's too late.
As for where powers should be when it comes to the EU and it's members, I think some powers are better suited at the EU level whereas others are suited at the members level, forign policy, border control, immigration and a few other areas are clearly better suited at an EU level, but there are other policies that would be fine at a members level, either way, we need to be working much closer together if we want to protect our interest and stay competitive on the world stage, and the current model is clearly not working, so more integration in key areas are needed, and I wonder how far the EU and its members have to fall behind on the world stage before we realise that things need to change.
Yes, we are Europeans, we are the West, we are diverse but we are one civilisation and we should stand together. EU!!
More like the Swiss than the US
Hell no. I don't identify with Europe in the slightest. I identity with MY country.
Same here. I am Polish first, Catholic second, Subcarpathian third, and European doesn't even come into my considerations.
It has too to compete on the global stage and the UK needs to be asked to rejoin ASAP. If the EU asked the UK to rejoin then people would take to the streets demanding we do it. The brexiteers are a minority now and dying off quickly. They are loud but dying.
Why are you so interested in the EU, Switzerland is doing fine by not being in the EU. Are you one of those leftists who want to flood Europe with migrants
Nah...
Would be beautiful ❤️ Europe Nations speak one common voice
But
some countries are very bossy (not Leaders)
see last meeting in Germany about Ukraine, US, Germany, France...
Not sure if Germany and France want are team players.
We definitely need to federalise EU. We deserve a sovereign Europe with its own constitution.
Europe should become some sort of soft federation, but it's important that the internal political powers are balanced, It mustn't become some sort of German fourth Reich or Second Napoleonic France. After the brexit, Germany and France are the main powers inside the EU, and all the big european istitutions are placed beetwen their borders. There are other big countries like Italy, and maybe Spain and Poland, who needs too make their voices louder inside the EU, in order to prevent an unbalanced Union.
The best way to make sure it's not Franco german dominated is to increase the EU parliaments power over member states
there's more non-french/german voters than french/germans ones
Absolute horrendous idea. People have different cultures and languages. Impossible to unite.
The euro has not helped Italy. Also would the italian economy fall then rich countires would have to pay hundreds of billions of euros each to save Italy.
Germany is a weak economy that has deindustrialized and they’re a black hole since they have no nuclear power plants.
Also EU is a brutal bureacuracy where nothing happends.
Things happends in the US, Russia, India, China, Brics etc. The EU is far behind and cannot do anything to change that
UK will have to reform their economy and they are expanding to trading in the Indian ocean. While the EU falls behind.
The rise of populist parties will continue as the EU becomes more tyrannical with chat control, hate speech laws, surveillance in cars and more power centering the EU
EU federalization would be impossible to achieve at least for the next 30-40 years minimum. The cultural differences between east-west and south-north are just way too big at the moment, you'll never get people to agree on that, especially older folks who are over 50 years old. I think whats more important currently is for the EU to seek higher military integration/cooperation or something like assembling a combined EU military force (that works alongside each nation's own military) which does not require a federal union to function and which is also not overly dependent on the US.
Long overdue, but getting all countries to agree would be worse than herding sheep,
This is the direction the EU has to go.
It will happen one day.
It would be about time! We would be so much stronger
Also...why this pic of Macron?! lol
FEDERATION NOW 🙌🇪🇺❤
Speaking as an American, i see that a federal europe would benefit everybody.
EU need to be a federation if we want to compete with USA and China .
Yes it should.
United States of Europe (USE)
Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes!
Anything but what von der Liar wants!
Switzerland has the right idea.