A federal united Europe would be a powerhouse on the global stage, but I’m afraid it wouldn’t be popular in favour of short term, individual goals that populists would go for instead.
@@Aerostarm You do know that was the purpose of the Euro and single European market which started in 2000? It started out pretty strong. But where has that gotten you lately....?
the advantage of it would be that they could then merge, without necessarily one joining the other, because they would be the same. Some might say that Switzerland joined the EU, because EU would be bigger, but then others can easily claim that EU joined Switzerland, because Switzerland is older, while technically they would just be cold welded.
Europeans don't need a currupt, undemocratic, political experiment to be 'together'. Those of us old enough to know what Europe was like before 1993 have seen the EU project make the continent worse economically, culturally, and in security. As a massively pro European I can't wait for the day the project collapses.
either way it will happen. we can have a peaceful integration or some country decides to start a war and ends up uniting europe or they unite europe themselves
At this moment we're united in destroying our economy. We're almost like the Roman empire at its last years. Still standing but about to collapse at any moment.
I agree men Europe can be very powerful if they work together made economic business but they don’t understand how economic work only some nations like Germany know
The EU at the moment is like the holy roman empire, surrounded by large unified states, that we are struggling to compete with. India, china, brazil, the EAC, the USA, or ASEAN.
The histories of different EU countries are too long and rich to unite into a federation. Not to mention most of them were constantly fighting each other in the past. Inevitably nationalism will get in the way.
@@JM-cu6ex Germany is just a mirage, it has no way of producing electricity without resorting to its coal-fired power stations, importing gas to replace coal would ruin it and it does not want nuclear power. It is the chronicle of an inevitable decline.
@@ninototo1 and turning it into a colony will help us? we dont care about the global events we care about our local politics and problems and we care about our culture very much, just because you dont give a damn about yours does not mean we have to live in the same house as you
i really stand behind the idea of a federal EU. I voted for VOLT last election, a PAN- European party. As someone posted here already: "Together we rise, divided we fall"
If we want to survive 21. the st century we need a federal and more democratic Europe🇪🇺💪 Volt is the only party that campaigns for such necessary reforms🙏
The Federal system is the best path for Europe, Imagine if Italy wants to make Marijuana legal but Finland does not. The Federal system allows for each to make their own local laws based on local population desires, and also have a unified central Government on top to share resources for better and more powerful military, and decision making, foreign relations, taxation, centralized spending on infrastructure that connects all of the EU together. Imagine if EU was able to collect EU wide taxes and fund big highway expansion to connect EU countries better. Just look at how bad the roads are connecting Czechia to Germany, let alone the rest of the EU, this leads to lack of efficiency, if you want to increase the economic power of Europe the easiest way is to pool resources for common goal to build faster, better connected EU. Less differences of taxes and cross border issues. Open the doors.
@@EUMadeSimple I would like more details. How exactly would you resolve the issue with monarchies, separatism, self-determination, language, religion. Would France be one state or would Bavaria be a state on equal footing (as it already is a state within Germany), would there be some sort of electoral college for election of a president?
@@EUMadeSimpleit would be interesting to see the benefits that full federalism would bring to individual aspects, like you’ve done with the military; make vids about tech, energy, finances, etc
That'd be a huge change and I think it is probably hard to completely oversee that change. But I would LOVE feeling more united to the rest of Europe. -Greetings from The Netherlands 🙋🏻♀️
@@fintonmainz7845 and @mmcworldbuilding5994 - two very sensible comments. Cooperation, openness, freedom of movement, freedom to belong to a culture and/or ethnicity etc. YES. A deep power hierarchy where an insanely large "parliament", with members who are very distant from their voters, and "one-size-fits-all" politics, NO! I voted NO to the Maastricht treaty in 1992, and I will fight anything that threatens Danish sovereignty. For example, we don't have one minimal wage in Denmark, because the labour market is negotiated between workers in unions and the employee organisations on the other side. Our system works fine, which our good economy proves. I don't want the EU to be able to change this.
Same, but tbf Ireland already consolidates too much in Dublin, I imagine counties like Donegal will be left somehow more forgotten if the decisions are pushed even further away lol
Finally! Someone that recognizes that the Swiss style of government would be perfect for many other countries in like in this case, the EU. Especially, the executive being multiple heads of state, comprised of all major parties and usually with every region/language represented. They each lead a department/ministry, but work and vote as one executive body with only a symbolic yearly rotating 'president' title. Adapting this to the EU, would make sure every major party and countries/regions feels represented and coalision get formed on a topic by topic basis, and not to form a government. (Thus avoiding the typical 'government vs. opposition' issues.)
Completely agree, while all of this sounds great, without reforming to make the EU more transparent and democratic we should not move towards federalizing
Definitely one of your best vids so far. Regardless of what other topics of interest you guys might discuss, full federalization should be a recurring one. EU as it is right now is a shoal of small and medium size fishes, they can keep adding more small fishes but still wont matter, they don’t stand a chance against a shark. Europe must become a shark as well in order to survive.
EU must fix its own issues in own system, before that, there is no way to even start first step fowards. So far EU is like non-calibrated X-ray, where you will get with perfect scan + cancer.
We as Europeans should be sick and tired of being poker chips that the big boys can play around with. It’s time for us to take a seat at the table and individual European states won’t be able to do it alone. I’m not saying we should give up are national identities however we should unite in some way to become more powerful on the global scale.
Thank you for bringing the Articles of Confederation up. As an American, I’ve long thought that Europe’s current status mirrors that of the Thirteen Colonies. The Articles provide a useful example of why the E.U., at present, is highly dysfunctional, and the Constitutional Convention of 1789 provides some valuable lessons in how those problems were (partially) solved. I’d recommend the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, a series of articles for and against the Constitution, as further reading for the interested. The authors are big names: Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, among others.
Absolutely not. This would be a disaster. Even the USA are very divided right now and Europe is even more diverse. All those naïve and 15 years old saying stuff like "Together we rise, divided we fall" or "Diversity is our strenght" don't understand a thing about how empires rise, work and die. Yes this supranational super structure would be very powerful but very authoritarian too, it would have an imperial center (Germany, which is the imperial center of the EU right now) who would dictates its will to others.
You don't need a genius to know that United we are stronger! I am not saying it's going to be perfect but it's much more better off than being divided! All the research evidence shows that clearly! And all the Political, economical and social cruises should us this truth.. divided we fall!
USA is less divided than many EU countries. Their press makes it look worse than it is; and also, Europe has politicians that are way more extreme than Trump, look at the AFD!
The EU has been a bureaucratic nightmare from day one. There needs to be a massive democratic overhaul. The UK is a good example of how these little states of Europe cannot survive on their own.
Actually, there are less civil servants working for the EU than for the city of London. The EU has cut far more red tape than it created. It is also already far more democratic than most of its members. But hey, keep reading the Mail.
One challenge I think is worth noting is around collaborative spirit and transparency when forging the best path for this. Spoken languages seems like an essential bridge for people operating within given systems to form meaningful relations with each other
As a Pole, hell NO! I don't want to pay for failed policies made somewhere in Brussels where no one knows who is responsible for them. Europe before taking into politics should solve it's economical problems. No net zero, but GDP. No regulation but competitiveness. No illegal immigration but stimulating own demographics.
As a french reducing the power of the french state and the privileges of the french political oligarchy would be enough to convince me to support the idea of a european federation.
My opinion is that it works in US predominantly because they have a common language which unites them. Unity comes with clear communication. Unfortunately for EU, there is no common language. Nothing whatsoever which would be common and unite them. Except for the fact they are happening to be living in Europe. But that’s like arguing all countries in Asia should be a federation because they are on one landmass
The United States does not have an official language at the federal level. English is the de facto language used for government and most official functions, but there is no law making it the official language. This reflects the country’s diverse linguistic heritage. Spanish is the second most spoken language in the United States, with a significant portion of the population using it as their primary language. It's prominent in many regions, particularly in states like California, Texas, Florida, and New York. In the EU there is also a kind of de facto language. You guess it, English. Although not in the same manners as in the US. Programs like Erasmus, and other future "federal level" programs like joint military schools, would enforce the feeling of unity and citizenship. There is a layer of youth in Europe that feels more European with free movement, etc. I think federalism is unavoidable.
@@luisPcordeiroyou must be living in a different EU, if you have ever been to a government office or any other normal function in day to day life in Germany, France or Italy, they always use their own language, in fact they kind of frown upon English speakers. Italy even introduced a law banning any use of English words in official tasks. There won’t ever be an EU federation. In fact countries are moving towards nationalism at the moment.
@sajithdilshan Well, I can't speak for other countries, but I've visited and worked in several and survived. In 2024, there is technology to facilitate communication in other languages. This will improve further. Look at us right now...
@@sajithdilshan italy didn't introduce no such thing. it was a draft proposed by one guy from the ruling party and it was left in the closet right after the whole country took a good laugh at it.
@@luisPcordeiro I think you said it perfectly, you survived with English. If you wanna live there long term you need to learn native language. For almost all Europeans their national language is a source of pride. Also legally in some areas they are even prohibited to provide services if you don’t understand the native language. As an example a German bank can refuse to give you a loan if you don’t understand German because the contract is in German and legally you are only allowed to sign it once you’ve read and understood it. Coming back to original point, there is absolutely no common language, religion, ethnicity or any other factor which unites all EU countries and in fact they are far better being individual states than answering to Brussels
United EU would have so many advantages it's insane. Cooperation on so many different levels - for example immigration, pandemics, security. Not to mention it would guarantee our independence. This is the way forward.
@@vosle4518 English and the local national languages. English is the world’s language so using it while also adapting everything into the nation’s local language(s) is the best way to make sure everything is understood while everyone is respected equally.
Closer, but not quite there yet. Maybe if it also didn't push for LGBTQ which started a whole cultural war to which different nations react in different ways.
Denmark always has strict immigration rules WHILE in the EU. So, yeah, let's blame national incompetence on the usual scapegoat again. The UK tried that.
Hope you also happy with the video. We want to do a series going deeper into this topic if there is enough interest. This is just the first overview video
As a "european citizen" this would create a Post Tito Yugoslavia rich with ethnic and religious tension. In the short term it would be benefitial indeed, but the state can't even with luck and extreme competency last longer then 40 years and it's dissolution would put the Yugoslav Wars to shame.
I feel like every educated EU citizen would want the EU to become a federation, with the exception that culture (language, customs, food, etc.) and immigration (border control for non-EU citizens, refugee policy, and citizenship) would stay at the state level. The beauty of Europe is that there are so many cultures with a thousand-year-long history, and there is no need to follow the 18th-century blueprint of the establishment of the USA. Modern problems require modern solutions.
@@falsevacuum4667 Yeah, that's why I mentioned non-EU citizens. Most Europeans don't have issues with other Europeans living in their countries-at least to some extent. For example, Germany should remain majority ethnic German, not majority other EU citizens, and certainly not majority non-EU citizens. The same applies to every other country in the EU. Europe, as a whole, should remain majority European (keyword: majority). The current issues faced by the right-wing in the EU would be resolved instantly if this problem was addressed. If we want to climb the ladder of the Kardashev scale and have a prospering civilization, you can't just have this policy of letting anyone into the EU and govern with this 'suicidal empathy.' The progress of human civilization is driven by only a handful of countries (government agencies, companies, institutions) that invest heavily in R&D, education, research, and the environment. Most countries in the world don’t invest at all, and a lot of them happen to be in the Middle East and Africa. People indoctrinated in these countries know nothing but short term vision and only-me-fuck-others mindset. These poeple have no real use in Europe, aside from draining the EU’s social systems. Around 60% of these immigrants are a burden to the economy and aren’t working at all. Europe needs immigration, but it needs skilled immigration. High-skilled migration is a net positive. Low-skilled migration is a short-term positive but a long-term negative. Refugee migration is a net negative overall. I’m aware that I’m making it political, but since it’s a politically charged topic, I think it’s appropriate. I’d actually prefer to vote for left-leaning parties, as I have in the past, but with each passing year, I find myself being drawn more to the right-and for good reason. I’m a single-issue voter, and that issue boils down to one question: “Do the policies of a particular party help society, and do we climb the Kardashev scale with them?” Currently, the answer for the left is NO.
the Euroceptisime get more and more stronger in EU so EU federation is a minor idea even in the educated one (literraly in France far right become more stronger and they hate EU)
That problem is due to the first-past-the-post voting system that favors a two-party system. The EU and most member states use parliamentarism and proportional representation which leads to a multi-party system.
I think most of the EU scepticism comes from the fact that the EU is way too centralized. The EU bureaucracy has a life of its own as a separate, above national government entity. This leads to total political dead end as we see in so many countries with numerous parties in the Parliaments and devided societies. No original political idea other then what is said in Brussels. There are objective indications that such model doesn't work. Further centralization will just increase the Euroscepticism. Not to mention that we already saw this scenario with Yugoslavia and the USSR.
The problem with this topic is that it is not technically debated. If not, it is already put into an ideological framework, "to be European is to be leftist." Then it can no longer be debated. For example: I am a Europeanist but I don't want a project without cultural identity and open borders, it seems that the EU only has those policies. So I have to vote for anti-European federation parties, but with better policies regarding education, culture and immigration. I don't know if I explained my point well.
The only people who frame it ideologically are the far/hard right, tho. They are the one coming out of the woodwork and claiming that the EU is a leftist project that will and can only do leftist things. The EPP has been trying to strengthen the EU while keeping a right wing approach on many of the issues you mentioned, but they are called soft leftist by the patriots and some conservative-reformists. The EU became the scapegoat of everything the hard right does not like about the state of their respective countries and they are the ones making support for the EU an ideological battle
Definitely. Me as eurorealist rightwinger I would definitely be more pro EU if EU would be more right wing. For example that shit with 30% of gender representation in executives? Don't we have enough shitty undemocratic bureaucratic law which goes against the best system "meritocracy"?
Same here. I am generally pro-EU but I despise left-wing politics, and my country (Poland) is more right-wing than EU average. So I bite the bullet and support Poland's place in the EU but not a stronger EU because it has too many leftists in the West who will outvote me.
expanding the EU has 0 impact on "cultural identity" and would make anti-immigration policies easier. It's currently ruled by neocons (not leftists) btw.
Eh, if this is how Federalization would be defined, then it's not a super bad concept. It's still bad, terrible even, but at least would not immediately lead to a civil war due to the differences. Here's just a couple: - Getting France and Germany to agree on nuclear wont happen. - French Laïcite would have Poland and Sweden condemn it. Poland because Religion is big there and core to Polish identity, and Sweden because Laïcite is not truly secular as it only guarantees freedom from religion but not freedom of religion. - Sweden and Denmark would not agree on migration and asylum policy with Sweden being really open (to its detriment as a Swede) while Denmark is more controlled. - The Netherlands would not agree to EU criminalizing Weed at its courts. Etc, etc. We have multiple, multi-dimensional differences that cannot be reconciled. Doing so would only lead to hatred of entire nations of people. It doesn't work. Heed the warning of the Kalmar Union. We can be neighbors, but we're better of as neighbors and not as roommates. Separate we stand, united we fall.
absolutely right not to mention drastically different foreign policies, mentalities and attitudes that evolved as a consequence of thousand of years of history.
There are no rational reasons not to federalize Europe. Just imagine how much more effective everything would be. Take the military for example. Instead of having 27 expensive army organizations there would be only 1. And now think if you did the same for taxation, foreign affairs, law enforcement, judiciary, health and welfare, transport and infrastructure, energy and environment, intelligence and security, economic regulation, education, immigration. The money that would be saved would be astronomical. Our continent would see massive growth again for the first time in two decades. We would actually be able to solve problems instead of just discussing them for 10 years. We could go our own way as a continent, and not have to be slaves to whoever the Americans vote into office. The only reason not to do this is because of our patriotic feelings. I say we move those patriotic feelings out to Europe's borders instead. Make Europe Great Again.
@@sokobian on the contrary, there's no rational reasons to federalize Europe. Everything would be far less effective, as different Nations want entirely different things and have different needs of their populations. Not to mention different ways of wanting to do things. Add that the taxed money of nations not going towards their own prosperity but rather that of another nation in the federation would be worse than what it is already, and the ability to fight back against this tyranny would be entirely on national lines, causing frictions and tensions to be far worse. We have seen smaller unions like this plenty of times in European history: the Kalmar Union, Yugoslavia, and the Soviet Union, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and heck, even on a smaller scale we have Czechoslovakia and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. They didn't last due to ethnic, cultural, and national differences. At best, a Federalized Europe could hold together until the sense of threat keeping it together is gone, be it Russia, China, or Iran, but once those are off the table, very little will be keeping a federalized Europe together, not even a united economy or infrastructure as proven throughout history including modern history. While the EU does need reform to make all our nations prosperous and great again, don't pretend that reform can only be by federalizing. There's plenty of ways to reform the EU while keeping this "Confederate" nature intact. Separate we stand, united we fall.
@@sokobian not wanting your men to be taken to Burkina Faso to kill or to force children to work in mines to put gold in France's banks is a very rational reason, not to mention a humanistic one. France and many other western Eu countries still have overseas territories, essentially never having stop colonialism, only rebranding it. We eastern Europeans would never surrender our autonomy to foreign powers, not after fighting for hundreds of years to obtain independence. If you want to play empires, that's on you, keeps us out of it.
Honestly, a Kalmar Union V2 would have a much greater chance of success than a EU country, but yeah, Denmark and Norway has to agree to our outrageous crimerates from reckless immigration, I'd guess Norway would like to keep their Oil and so on.. But IF that worked out we are more or less the same people, same history, same flag (more or less), almost the same language, similar culture and the same national religion and so on..
Yeah everyone who watches this channel would say yes. But I talk to people at my uni, sometimes bringing this up and many rly just don't see the EU as much more than an economic block yet. They also have no idea how much regulation comes from EU and not the Nation itself. For people to surrender more responsibility to an EU level, like defense, the EU needs ALOT more marketing.
Where are you from? It depends completely on the country of origin. And also it depends on how you word it. Most people wouldn't like a 'European federation' because it sounds like "European Superstate", but they'd be completely fine with removing the veto system, a unified fiscal and foreign policy and army
@@fra604 Yeah, one common trend I've seen in this comment section is that comparing it to Switzerland really resonates with people. If you say "European Federation" or "European Superstate", they recoil, but if you say "European Super-Switzerland" then people are like oh that's so cool.
I honestly hope for an EU federation. Europe needs to act like a united front if it wants to stay strong. Also an more federalised Europe means fewer inefficiencies due to having 27 authorities over the same things (take international train rides, or tax policy).
The EU doesn't need to federalize to be a more efficient and agile economic Union. It only needs to backtrack on over-regulations and over-bureaucracry that are killing small businessess and hindering our economies.
@@SocialConservativeVox Oh youll decide for yourself for approximately 14 seconds before being gobbled up by russia Which is where i suspect youre from anyway
As an American, a premium is put on state and local control. Most ppl don’t like the national government. I think instead of a pan European constituency, you could keep the current EU model of national elections for the EU parliament, but develop so that EU groups have greater cooperation or control over national parties. For example, Minnesota has the Democratic Farmer-Labor Party. It used to be separated into a socialist party, the Dems, and a farmers group, but now they’re one party and caucus with the National Democrats. You could keep the German SPD and Dutch PvdA and so on, but have them all caucus under the banner of the S&D group at an EU level.
I also agree with some other comments that the executive needs to be simplified. Whether it should remain parliamentary, having the EU choose the executive, or presidential, having the commissioner directly elected, I’m not sure. I don’t think it would matter one way or the other tbh.
As an Conservative Right Wing Black American, I just want to say to all my european friends, i believe that Europe can be a great continent, filled with Resources, Culture, Industries and Military Might I do hope for the best for our Friends across the pond, Even though i am an American First Nationalist, i hope everybody from Europe can finally reach the true potential they once had in the past. And together, we can make the west stronger and more sufficent again.
For EU to become a Federation it first needs a true Democratic System. Every Parliament in a Demoray needs to make new Law, not just vote for. The leaders shoudl also be elected and come from the political parties, so The Comission needs to go as well.
@@AndDiracisHisProphetSelf-Determination also means to be governed by people of your group. That is why the US cannot just expand ane annex Canada and Mexico and say "Well duh, you can still vote in our elections and you gor your state governments, so what are you complaining about?'
I don't think the EU will transform in a classical federation anytime soon. It would be closer to a confederation I would think. Getting countries to let go of individual foreign affairs and defense will be difficult though. And somehow I think US would have its reservation about an EU that operates as a more unified block and have the hard power to back it up. For Russia it would be a nightmare, which speaks in its favor a lot IMO.
Thank you! Do more simular videos! How about the best system, an EU educatiob system I’m an adult now. Since I’m 11 I’m dreaming of the United States of Europe!
well they are also doing so well in the USA, not heading for something close to a civil war ,not in anyway hated by 80% of the world because they want to destroy everybody , by the way if EU is going for Federation you can be sure the USA will attack because they don't allow any competition , we will be their new enemy , they already view EU as a possible threat
Short Response: No Long Response: Im a soberanist and I think the EU must be a exclusive political and economic union, that the members has full soberanity over their countries and as a spanish I rather be in a federal union and I would like to, with hispanic american countries than another European countries that see Spain as a tourism place, as a farm and nothing more.
Honestly, all the politics could go as well, EU is great since it allows for free travel and free traid, beyond thats it's more of a burden than a help
I have multiple european nationalities so I always felt more european than any one of them. I live in Switzerland and I always thought that the swiss model of federalism could work for the eu as when you think about it, they are not so dissimilar in their hostory and sytuation, just at a different scale
To protect our democracy, preserve our long-standing cultures, and build a better future, we must work together. I look forward to the day when I will say, "Vive la République, vive la France, et vive l’Union"
@@silverdoctor6298 I don't know how dictatorship will affect this superstate, though nationalism will affect it for sure just like these states I have mentioned above
Victor Orban is heavily and strongly opposing to Federation and Centralisation of EU. Orban is strongly and heavily supporting to Europe of Fatherlands.
Victor orban is a corrupt prick and 2 thirds if hungary hates him but cant get rid of him So lets fix that He has been a pain in the arse of europe for too long and we should honestly deport him Since hes the source of most of issues you seem to blame the eu for
Victor orban is a corrupt hypocrite And one that has caused 90% of issues europe is now facing but still blames them for it to gain clout His own people hate him but cant get rid of him And im honestly shocked we haven't kicked out hungary yet
@@Pepek94 He is a hypocritical corrupt crony Two thirds of his own country hate him but cant get rid of him He is responsible for 90% of issues he blames European Union for He is against a European federation because he knows that if it would ever occur he would loose his own little monopoly of Hungarian politics and likely even be arrested. If after all that you still consider him good Which tbf Is likely still the case because " logic" isn't in either of your vocabularies You should know Fidesz is bleeding supporters fast and orban will likely not be around after the next election.
I am highly supportive of working together but when talking about such a topic I become fearful my country would lose its identity. We already have a strong influence of the English langauge due to digitalization, combined with low birth rates and non-western immigrants taking our children's places. I don't want to be like the United States where everyone is divided and I feel like federation would cause that.
People are divided in the US because of the two-party system enforced by first-past-the-post voting. The EU and most of Europe uses parliamentarism and proportional representation in voting, so that isn't as much of a concern.
I live in a Federation already (Germany) and aside from more and more people speaking High German instead of their local dialect, I feel like each state's identity has stayed intact.
@@ninototo1 Mhm, and it's not as though people are not learning English just because there isn't a federation. The spread of common languages is a fact of the modern age and introducing more federalism to the EU would probably have only a modest affect on language.
Just make it like Switzerland, but retain state contribution instead of direct taxation of the citizens. It's far cheaper, offers some flexibility over fiscal policies, and protects citizens having member states as intermediaries. But for everything else just copy-and-paste the Swiss model.
I find interesting the proposed model of concentric union levels. There would simultaneously be countries making a federation, and countries that don't fully commit to it and stay like in the current union, whether because they don't want to or because they don't yet meet the criteria needed to join.
A federal united Europe would be a powerhouse on the global stage, but I’m afraid it wouldn’t be popular in favour of short term, individual goals that populists would go for instead.
I think it would surpass China, being second only to the USA
😂😂😂 you actually believe that 😂😂😂
I don't want to be in the same nation as those odious racist poles and hungarians.
Kick them out of the Union and we can talk about it.
"Populist" = Democrats
@@Aerostarm You do know that was the purpose of the Euro and single European market which started in 2000? It started out pretty strong. But where has that gotten you lately....?
It would be funny to adopt a swiss model when Switzerland isnt a part of it 😂
Look at me! I am the Switzerland now!
the advantage of it would be that they could then merge, without necessarily one joining the other, because they would be the same.
Some might say that Switzerland joined the EU, because EU would be bigger, but then others can easily claim that EU joined Switzerland, because Switzerland is older, while technically they would just be cold welded.
I believe the current mood in Europe would be to have an enlarged Switzerland. Rich and stable country, but not too much to say in global affairs.
@@nydydnlay down the grass😂
The swiss model for EU would maybe make it attractive for Switzerland to join indeed!
Together we rise, divided we fall
who are we?
iranians? syrians? afghans? who are we?
define WE
@@LukeSmith1984 I agree
@@0ptic0p22Europeans. Now GTFO
Europeans don't need a currupt, undemocratic, political experiment to be 'together'. Those of us old enough to know what Europe was like before 1993 have seen the EU project make the continent worse economically, culturally, and in security. As a massively pro European I can't wait for the day the project collapses.
Diversity is our strength 🤣
If Europe doesn’t want to be a U.S. or Russo-Chinese vassal region then some form of Federation is necessary.
let me guess, you want to be a french vassal
@@Tyu-f1stf are you talking about?!
@@metalsonn The EU is a Franco-German Axis that seeks to dominate the rest of Europe. As an EU citizen I do not wish to be ruled by either.
@@Tyu-f1s What are you going on about? x)
@@Tyu-f1s the French don’t have what it takes to control Europe, they surely wish they could, but they can’t
I would love a federal EU. United we can stand alongside the US and China, divided we are helpless.
I think the same 😀 Federal EU = Strong Europa
either way it will happen. we can have a peaceful integration or some country decides to start a war and ends up uniting europe or they unite europe themselves
Suuure, more troublesome EU overreach and supression of the national identity and culture!
Just what the Eastern Europeans want! (sarcasm)
At this moment we're united in destroying our economy. We're almost like the Roman empire at its last years. Still standing but about to collapse at any moment.
I agree men Europe can be very powerful if they work together made economic business but they don’t understand how economic work only some nations like Germany know
Huh, a super-Switzerland. I like that idea.
Maybe EU states should simply leave the union and join the Confederatio Helvetica! :D
Surrounding Switzerland too since no way in hell they're joining until it's just them left. So Switzerland surrounded by mega Switzerland.
@@mahovonnishizumi3636Joining would be the stupidest thing Switzerland could do.
With this WEF,s idea you will not have swiss democracy. They want only a dictature and more money for them,elites
@@SapereAude1490 Or a super Belgium, i don't like that idea.
The EU at the moment is like the holy roman empire, surrounded by large unified states, that we are struggling to compete with. India, china, brazil, the EAC, the USA, or ASEAN.
And when they united they become a global power ie Germany
The histories of different EU countries are too long and rich to unite into a federation. Not to mention most of them were constantly fighting each other in the past. Inevitably nationalism will get in the way.
ASEAN is much less of a union than the EU...
@@JM-cu6ex Germany is just a mirage, it has no way of producing electricity without resorting to its coal-fired power stations, importing gas to replace coal would ruin it and it does not want nuclear power. It is the chronicle of an inevitable decline.
@@gawkthimm6030 so far. Give it 30 years and that will change. I think the EAC becoming a federal state, will happen first of the three.
as a Pole, i'd like it. Combined we have our flaws, but also we're stronger.
Yes!! We are all Europeans we must stick together
@@ninototo1 no
@@ninototo1 🤡
@@CroatianUltraNationalist its silly to believe your country can survive on its own. Croatia is insignificant
@@ninototo1 and turning it into a colony will help us? we dont care about the global events we care about our local politics and problems and we care about our culture very much, just because you dont give a damn about yours does not mean we have to live in the same house as you
i really stand behind the idea of a federal EU. I voted for VOLT last election, a PAN- European party. As someone posted here already: "Together we rise, divided we fall"
i would take the fall than
@@RogueEva then please don't drag everyone else along
@@edik2507 why would i? my country would never agree with nonsense like that, i'm chill :) also, we're good in falling together
Man, I also voted Volt. And the way I see it, only going Federal EU can prosper.
If we want to survive 21. the st century we need a federal and more democratic Europe🇪🇺💪
Volt is the only party that campaigns for such necessary reforms🙏
The Federal system is the best path for Europe, Imagine if Italy wants to make Marijuana legal but Finland does not. The Federal system allows for each to make their own local laws based on local population desires, and also have a unified central Government on top to share resources for better and more powerful military, and decision making, foreign relations, taxation, centralized spending on infrastructure that connects all of the EU together. Imagine if EU was able to collect EU wide taxes and fund big highway expansion to connect EU countries better. Just look at how bad the roads are connecting Czechia to Germany, let alone the rest of the EU, this leads to lack of efficiency, if you want to increase the economic power of Europe the easiest way is to pool resources for common goal to build faster, better connected EU. Less differences of taxes and cross border issues. Open the doors.
Or properly built and fund international train travel to cut on CO2 emissions when travelling across the continent.
Don't forget culture, language,religion, history, i think, it is a hard to make like USA.
I don't want marijuana legal.
It's the stupidest thing ever.
@IsabelCurso I love the mafia as well
Imagine if the EU didn’t exist how good the European nations would be now
I would like it, from an Italian
anche ioooo
Me too, as a Portuguese.
sparutissima minoranza
Brother! I think we are many more than we think
@@guerreiro943 Angola é vossa (lol)
I hope to see a series going deeper into this topic, I absolutely love these types of videos
If this video gets >50k then a more detailed video will follow ;)
Same, support unity!
@@EUMadeSimple I would like more details. How exactly would you resolve the issue with monarchies, separatism, self-determination, language, religion. Would France be one state or would Bavaria be a state on equal footing (as it already is a state within Germany), would there be some sort of electoral college for election of a president?
@@EUMadeSimpleit would be interesting to see the benefits that full federalism would bring to individual aspects, like you’ve done with the military; make vids about tech, energy, finances, etc
@@EUMadeSimplestart working on it , it’s already at 46k 😂
Yes but keep the current flag, it kicks ass.
That'd be a huge change and I think it is probably hard to completely oversee that change. But I would LOVE feeling more united to the rest of Europe.
-Greetings from The Netherlands 🙋🏻♀️
as an irishman i think a federation would be too far but yeah man wee need to collaborate closer & more efficiently as a continent for sure
The EU needs to be improved (as does any organisation) and closer cooperation would be good but a federal state would be a disaster.
@@fintonmainz7845 and @mmcworldbuilding5994 - two very sensible comments. Cooperation, openness, freedom of movement, freedom to belong to a culture and/or ethnicity etc. YES. A deep power hierarchy where an insanely large "parliament", with members who are very distant from their voters, and "one-size-fits-all" politics, NO! I voted NO to the Maastricht treaty in 1992, and I will fight anything that threatens Danish sovereignty. For example, we don't have one minimal wage in Denmark, because the labour market is negotiated between workers in unions and the employee organisations on the other side. Our system works fine, which our good economy proves. I don't want the EU to be able to change this.
Same, but tbf Ireland already consolidates too much in Dublin, I imagine counties like Donegal will be left somehow more forgotten if the decisions are pushed even further away lol
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Great video! Thank you very much again all team of Eu Made Simple
Finally! Someone that recognizes that the Swiss style of government would be perfect for many other countries in like in this case, the EU.
Especially, the executive being multiple heads of state, comprised of all major parties and usually with every region/language represented. They each lead a department/ministry, but work and vote as one executive body with only a symbolic yearly rotating 'president' title.
Adapting this to the EU, would make sure every major party and countries/regions feels represented and coalision get formed on a topic by topic basis, and not to form a government. (Thus avoiding the typical 'government vs. opposition' issues.)
You will love tomorrows video :)
yes, but it also needs to become more democratic
Completely agree, while all of this sounds great, without reforming to make the EU more transparent and democratic we should not move towards federalizing
A video on how applying the Swiss model to the EU would be very appreciated. Thank you for this introduction to European federalisation :)
Agreed! I think the Swiss model is great and would improve democracy at an EU level.
Yes! Let's turn the EU into a super CH! :))))
"On the Swiss model": how ironic since Switzerland is strongly against joining the EU.
Yeah let’s go for cuckoo clock
Yeah let’s go for cuckoo clock
Definitely one of your best vids so far.
Regardless of what other topics of interest you guys might discuss, full federalization should be a recurring one.
EU as it is right now is a shoal of small and medium size fishes, they can keep adding more small fishes but still wont matter, they don’t stand a chance against a shark. Europe must become a shark as well in order to survive.
EU must fix its own issues in own system, before that, there is no way to even start first step fowards. So far EU is like non-calibrated X-ray, where you will get with perfect scan + cancer.
Uno reverse on the EU. Union of Sovereign European Republics. USSR for Europe.
EU is so close to fulfilling the dreams of little mustache man
We as Europeans should be sick and tired of being poker chips that the big boys can play around with. It’s time for us to take a seat at the table and individual European states won’t be able to do it alone. I’m not saying we should give up are national identities however we should unite in some way to become more powerful on the global scale.
Well, you guys were outcompeting the US in like the early 2000s and suddenly stopped and now are about to fall behind China
As a French person, I would prefer the second option. We are getting annoyed that Germany keeps voting against our energy projects
Thank you for bringing the Articles of Confederation up. As an American, I’ve long thought that Europe’s current status mirrors that of the Thirteen Colonies. The Articles provide a useful example of why the E.U., at present, is highly dysfunctional, and the Constitutional Convention of 1789 provides some valuable lessons in how those problems were (partially) solved. I’d recommend the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, a series of articles for and against the Constitution, as further reading for the interested. The authors are big names: Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, among others.
As a Romanian, I'd support an European Federation
as a Dutch person, I don't.
Why?
@@luisPcordeiroI think he is scared of losing his country's identity. Tbh, the immigrants are already in.
@@henkmertens7120Nederland word toch steeds minder waard versus Oost Europa😂
@@luisPcordeiro because to big culturele differences.
Absolutely not. This would be a disaster. Even the USA are very divided right now and Europe is even more diverse.
All those naïve and 15 years old saying stuff like "Together we rise, divided we fall" or "Diversity is our strenght" don't understand a thing about how empires rise, work and die.
Yes this supranational super structure would be very powerful but very authoritarian too, it would have an imperial center (Germany, which is the imperial center of the EU right now) who would dictates its will to others.
You don't need a genius to know that United we are stronger! I am not saying it's going to be perfect but it's much more better off than being divided! All the research evidence shows that clearly! And all the Political, economical and social cruises should us this truth.. divided we fall!
USA is less divided than many EU countries. Their press makes it look worse than it is; and also, Europe has politicians that are way more extreme than Trump, look at the AFD!
@@kazomazo6646 you're either 15yo or stupid
Basically, most of the disadvantages of the merger are exaggerated or assumed, no one knows what will happen 🤔🤔 But still, the idea is good
The EU has been a bureaucratic nightmare from day one. There needs to be a massive democratic overhaul. The UK is a good example of how these little states of Europe cannot survive on their own.
Exactly, whichever governing model they choose, the EU needs to be less government without adding any more bureaucratic hurdles
When Europe wants to federalize, they should meet with America who could help them set up a functioning democracy
Actually, there are less civil servants working for the EU than for the city of London. The EU has cut far more red tape than it created. It is also already far more democratic than most of its members. But hey, keep reading the Mail.
@@iamtherealElite You speak in jest I assume? Let's introduce the Electoral College in Europe? The SCOTUS?
@@Conclusius68 ??????
One challenge I think is worth noting is around collaborative spirit and transparency when forging the best path for this. Spoken languages seems like an essential bridge for people operating within given systems to form meaningful relations with each other
As a Pole, hell NO! I don't want to pay for failed policies made somewhere in Brussels where no one knows who is responsible for them. Europe before taking into politics should solve it's economical problems. No net zero, but GDP. No regulation but competitiveness. No illegal immigration but stimulating own demographics.
What happened in 1939 ?
@@hanshawks5088Round 2 available by 2039
As a french reducing the power of the french state and the privileges of the french political oligarchy would be enough to convince me to support the idea of a european federation.
Same as an Italian haha
@ the problem might remain as it would be just transposed to the european level as most of the western politicians are crooked traitors
And what if the fédéral eu became an oligarchy just like the US right now ?
My opinion is that it works in US predominantly because they have a common language which unites them. Unity comes with clear communication. Unfortunately for EU, there is no common language. Nothing whatsoever which would be common and unite them. Except for the fact they are happening to be living in Europe. But that’s like arguing all countries in Asia should be a federation because they are on one landmass
The United States does not have an official language at the federal level. English is the de facto language used for government and most official functions, but there is no law making it the official language. This reflects the country’s diverse linguistic heritage.
Spanish is the second most spoken language in the United States, with a significant portion of the population using it as their primary language. It's prominent in many regions, particularly in states like California, Texas, Florida, and New York.
In the EU there is also a kind of de facto language. You guess it, English. Although not in the same manners as in the US.
Programs like Erasmus, and other future "federal level" programs like joint military schools, would enforce the feeling of unity and citizenship.
There is a layer of youth in Europe that feels more European with free movement, etc.
I think federalism is unavoidable.
@@luisPcordeiroyou must be living in a different EU, if you have ever been to a government office or any other normal function in day to day life in Germany, France or Italy, they always use their own language, in fact they kind of frown upon English speakers. Italy even introduced a law banning any use of English words in official tasks. There won’t ever be an EU federation. In fact countries are moving towards nationalism at the moment.
@sajithdilshan Well, I can't speak for other countries,
but I've visited and worked in several and survived.
In 2024, there is technology to facilitate communication in other languages. This will improve further.
Look at us right now...
@@sajithdilshan italy didn't introduce no such thing. it was a draft proposed by one guy from the ruling party and it was left in the closet right after the whole country took a good laugh at it.
@@luisPcordeiro I think you said it perfectly, you survived with English. If you wanna live there long term you need to learn native language. For almost all Europeans their national language is a source of pride. Also legally in some areas they are even prohibited to provide services if you don’t understand the native language. As an example a German bank can refuse to give you a loan if you don’t understand German because the contract is in German and legally you are only allowed to sign it once you’ve read and understood it.
Coming back to original point, there is absolutely no common language, religion, ethnicity or any other factor which unites all EU countries and in fact they are far better being individual states than answering to Brussels
United EU would have so many advantages it's insane. Cooperation on so many different levels - for example immigration, pandemics, security. Not to mention it would guarantee our independence.
This is the way forward.
On what common language
you are uneducated or stupid maybe even both
@@vosle4518
English and the local national languages. English is the world’s language so using it while also adapting everything into the nation’s local language(s) is the best way to make sure everything is understood while everyone is respected equally.
@@andreimircea2254 Try to convince Germans and French to speak english.
we have had a common migration and common laws and it has gone to hell
It will happen one day.
💜💜💜 Unite it
EU should become a federation, like the US or Switzerland
In Switzerland they speak several languages but the country still works very well
Imagine if the EU didn't push for immigration the last few years. We would've been so much closer to an united Europe.
The hate towards immigrants will bring true Europeans even closer together. However, there would most certainly be chaos along the way.
You mean the last few decades?
Closer, but not quite there yet. Maybe if it also didn't push for LGBTQ which started a whole cultural war to which different nations react in different ways.
Denmark always has strict immigration rules WHILE in the EU. So, yeah, let's blame national incompetence on the usual scapegoat again. The UK tried that.
I was so happy with this notification 🎉
Hope you also happy with the video. We want to do a series going deeper into this topic if there is enough interest. This is just the first overview video
@EUMadeSimple thats very nice, i am absolutely enjoying the video
As a "european citizen" this would create a Post Tito Yugoslavia rich with ethnic and religious tension. In the short term it would be benefitial indeed, but the state can't even with luck and extreme competency last longer then 40 years and it's dissolution would put the Yugoslav Wars to shame.
Calling the Destruction of Yugoslavia a "dissolution" is an insult to intelligence and morality.
Macron’s recovery at 7:38 was so clean
I feel like every educated EU citizen would want the EU to become a federation, with the exception that culture (language, customs, food, etc.) and immigration (border control for non-EU citizens, refugee policy, and citizenship) would stay at the state level. The beauty of Europe is that there are so many cultures with a thousand-year-long history, and there is no need to follow the 18th-century blueprint of the establishment of the USA. Modern problems require modern solutions.
Immigration is already at the EU level through Schengen.
Any educated man nows that centralisation will end like it did the last 1000 times. Not in favour of the people.
@@falsevacuum4667 Yeah, that's why I mentioned non-EU citizens. Most Europeans don't have issues with other Europeans living in their countries-at least to some extent. For example, Germany should remain majority ethnic German, not majority other EU citizens, and certainly not majority non-EU citizens. The same applies to every other country in the EU. Europe, as a whole, should remain majority European (keyword: majority).
The current issues faced by the right-wing in the EU would be resolved instantly if this problem was addressed.
If we want to climb the ladder of the Kardashev scale and have a prospering civilization, you can't just have this policy of letting anyone into the EU and govern with this 'suicidal empathy.' The progress of human civilization is driven by only a handful of countries (government agencies, companies, institutions) that invest heavily in R&D, education, research, and the environment. Most countries in the world don’t invest at all, and a lot of them happen to be in the Middle East and Africa. People indoctrinated in these countries know nothing but short term vision and only-me-fuck-others mindset. These poeple have no real use in Europe, aside from draining the EU’s social systems. Around 60% of these immigrants are a burden to the economy and aren’t working at all. Europe needs immigration, but it needs skilled immigration. High-skilled migration is a net positive. Low-skilled migration is a short-term positive but a long-term negative. Refugee migration is a net negative overall.
I’m aware that I’m making it political, but since it’s a politically charged topic, I think it’s appropriate. I’d actually prefer to vote for left-leaning parties, as I have in the past, but with each passing year, I find myself being drawn more to the right-and for good reason. I’m a single-issue voter, and that issue boils down to one question: “Do the policies of a particular party help society, and do we climb the Kardashev scale with them?” Currently, the answer for the left is NO.
the Euroceptisime get more and more stronger in EU so EU federation is a minor idea even in the educated one (literraly in France far right become more stronger and they hate EU)
@@wakpuissant5780 Stop spreading fake news
Please make a video of how the EU could use the swiss model of confederation
Yes please, but with more parties to vote for than just democrats and republicans.
That problem is due to the first-past-the-post voting system that favors a two-party system. The EU and most member states use parliamentarism and proportional representation which leads to a multi-party system.
More parties leads to fascism.
@@birdstwin1186 *how*
@m.m9769 Let me introduce you to the European Parliament
Enjoyed the vid
Highly unlikely, we even disagree about coffee preparation. Still together we are stronger than isolated, therefore a compromise is needed
No
I think most of the EU scepticism comes from the fact that the EU is way too centralized. The EU bureaucracy has a life of its own as a separate, above national government entity. This leads to total political dead end as we see in so many countries with numerous parties in the Parliaments and devided societies. No original political idea other then what is said in Brussels. There are objective indications that such model doesn't work. Further centralization will just increase the Euroscepticism. Not to mention that we already saw this scenario with Yugoslavia and the USSR.
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Great video. Explains everything perfectly.
As a citizen of the EU, I'm all for the EU's federation. I'm doing my part.
The problem with this topic is that it is not technically debated. If not, it is already put into an ideological framework, "to be European is to be leftist." Then it can no longer be debated. For example: I am a Europeanist but I don't want a project without cultural identity and open borders, it seems that the EU only has those policies. So I have to vote for anti-European federation parties, but with better policies regarding education, culture and immigration. I don't know if I explained my point well.
The only people who frame it ideologically are the far/hard right, tho. They are the one coming out of the woodwork and claiming that the EU is a leftist project that will and can only do leftist things. The EPP has been trying to strengthen the EU while keeping a right wing approach on many of the issues you mentioned, but they are called soft leftist by the patriots and some conservative-reformists. The EU became the scapegoat of everything the hard right does not like about the state of their respective countries and they are the ones making support for the EU an ideological battle
Definitely. Me as eurorealist rightwinger I would definitely be more pro EU if EU would be more right wing. For example that shit with 30% of gender representation in executives? Don't we have enough shitty undemocratic bureaucratic law which goes against the best system "meritocracy"?
Same here. I am generally pro-EU but I despise left-wing politics, and my country (Poland) is more right-wing than EU average. So I bite the bullet and support Poland's place in the EU but not a stronger EU because it has too many leftists in the West who will outvote me.
@@varsoo1 What left wing policies do you hate and why? How does that apply to your life?
expanding the EU has 0 impact on "cultural identity" and would make anti-immigration policies easier.
It's currently ruled by neocons (not leftists) btw.
Eh, if this is how Federalization would be defined, then it's not a super bad concept.
It's still bad, terrible even, but at least would not immediately lead to a civil war due to the differences.
Here's just a couple:
- Getting France and Germany to agree on nuclear wont happen.
- French Laïcite would have Poland and Sweden condemn it. Poland because Religion is big there and core to Polish identity, and Sweden because Laïcite is not truly secular as it only guarantees freedom from religion but not freedom of religion.
- Sweden and Denmark would not agree on migration and asylum policy with Sweden being really open (to its detriment as a Swede) while Denmark is more controlled.
- The Netherlands would not agree to EU criminalizing Weed at its courts.
Etc, etc. We have multiple, multi-dimensional differences that cannot be reconciled. Doing so would only lead to hatred of entire nations of people. It doesn't work. Heed the warning of the Kalmar Union.
We can be neighbors, but we're better of as neighbors and not as roommates.
Separate we stand, united we fall.
absolutely right not to mention drastically different foreign policies, mentalities and attitudes that evolved as a consequence of thousand of years of history.
There are no rational reasons not to federalize Europe.
Just imagine how much more effective everything would be. Take the military for example. Instead of having 27 expensive army organizations there would be only 1.
And now think if you did the same for taxation, foreign affairs, law enforcement, judiciary, health and welfare, transport and infrastructure, energy and environment, intelligence and security, economic regulation, education, immigration.
The money that would be saved would be astronomical. Our continent would see massive growth again for the first time in two decades. We would actually be able to solve problems instead of just discussing them for 10 years. We could go our own way as a continent, and not have to be slaves to whoever the Americans vote into office.
The only reason not to do this is because of our patriotic feelings. I say we move those patriotic feelings out to Europe's borders instead. Make Europe Great Again.
@@sokobian on the contrary, there's no rational reasons to federalize Europe.
Everything would be far less effective, as different Nations want entirely different things and have different needs of their populations. Not to mention different ways of wanting to do things.
Add that the taxed money of nations not going towards their own prosperity but rather that of another nation in the federation would be worse than what it is already, and the ability to fight back against this tyranny would be entirely on national lines, causing frictions and tensions to be far worse.
We have seen smaller unions like this plenty of times in European history: the Kalmar Union, Yugoslavia, and the Soviet Union, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and heck, even on a smaller scale we have Czechoslovakia and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. They didn't last due to ethnic, cultural, and national differences. At best, a Federalized Europe could hold together until the sense of threat keeping it together is gone, be it Russia, China, or Iran, but once those are off the table, very little will be keeping a federalized Europe together, not even a united economy or infrastructure as proven throughout history including modern history.
While the EU does need reform to make all our nations prosperous and great again, don't pretend that reform can only be by federalizing. There's plenty of ways to reform the EU while keeping this "Confederate" nature intact.
Separate we stand, united we fall.
@@sokobian not wanting your men to be taken to Burkina Faso to kill or to force children to work in mines to put gold in France's banks is a very rational reason, not to mention a humanistic one. France and many other western Eu countries still have overseas territories, essentially never having stop colonialism, only rebranding it. We eastern Europeans would never surrender our autonomy to foreign powers, not after fighting for hundreds of years to obtain independence. If you want to play empires, that's on you, keeps us out of it.
Honestly, a Kalmar Union V2 would have a much greater chance of success than a EU country, but yeah, Denmark and Norway has to agree to our outrageous crimerates from reckless immigration, I'd guess Norway would like to keep their Oil and so on.. But IF that worked out we are more or less the same people, same history, same flag (more or less), almost the same language, similar culture and the same national religion and so on..
Yeah everyone who watches this channel would say yes. But I talk to people at my uni, sometimes bringing this up and many rly just don't see the EU as much more than an economic block yet. They also have no idea how much regulation comes from EU and not the Nation itself. For people to surrender more responsibility to an EU level, like defense, the EU needs ALOT more marketing.
Where are you from? It depends completely on the country of origin. And also it depends on how you word it. Most people wouldn't like a 'European federation' because it sounds like "European Superstate", but they'd be completely fine with removing the veto system, a unified fiscal and foreign policy and army
I agree, the eu needs to up it's marketing of such ideas.
More money is needed for media campaigns to sell the idea and better
@@fra604 Yeah, one common trend I've seen in this comment section is that comparing it to Switzerland really resonates with people. If you say "European Federation" or "European Superstate", they recoil, but if you say "European Super-Switzerland" then people are like oh that's so cool.
@@falsevacuum4667 cuz people are ignorant to what federation really means
@@falsevacuum4667 Yeah, I've made it a point to call the idea "European Switzerland" whenever it comes up in discussions (especially online)
This channel is amazing
Nice vid
I honestly hope for an EU federation. Europe needs to act like a united front if it wants to stay strong. Also an more federalised Europe means fewer inefficiencies due to having 27 authorities over the same things (take international train rides, or tax policy).
I honestly hope for the abolition of the eu so that the nations can finally decide for themselves
The EU doesn't need to federalize to be a more efficient and agile economic Union.
It only needs to backtrack on over-regulations and over-bureaucracry that are killing small businessess and hindering our economies.
@@SocialConservativeVoxSure, Mr. Putin Meatrider.
@@SocialConservativeVox
Oh youll decide for yourself for approximately 14 seconds before being gobbled up by russia
Which is where i suspect youre from anyway
@@marin8141 No I am from Sweden and Europe is already getting gobbled up by russia because the EU made us dependent on russian gas and oil
Great overview, I fully support the idea of a federal EU, it makes practical sense and I hope it happens soon!
As an American, a premium is put on state and local control. Most ppl don’t like the national government. I think instead of a pan European constituency, you could keep the current EU model of national elections for the EU parliament, but develop so that EU groups have greater cooperation or control over national parties.
For example, Minnesota has the Democratic Farmer-Labor Party. It used to be separated into a socialist party, the Dems, and a farmers group, but now they’re one party and caucus with the National Democrats. You could keep the German SPD and Dutch PvdA and so on, but have them all caucus under the banner of the S&D group at an EU level.
I also agree with some other comments that the executive needs to be simplified. Whether it should remain parliamentary, having the EU choose the executive, or presidential, having the commissioner directly elected, I’m not sure. I don’t think it would matter one way or the other tbh.
They already have pan-European caucuses.
yeah as the previous commenter mentioned, the EU does that already
@@ninototo1 Yea cause they have the groups right? I don’t think they need too much more than that
@@historicallyaccurate7808 yes basically big groups that represent different national parties and each party gets to decide which group to join
The EU should become a federation like Switzerland, not like the US.
What the official language of Federal Europe would be ?
People wouldn’t be willing to lose their national sovereignty.
I know it’s a silly idea - but how about Latin?
Remember espéranto ? Yeah me neither
American English. The United States would be more cooperative. I am not biased. Wink wink.
But then football wouldn't be as fun to watch.....
Ew no,we fought hard for our ethno states and don't want to give power yo some centralized bureaucracy in Brussels that answers to no one.
As someone from Britain, are you sure that the EU is a bad thing?
@@AerostarmWas it good when Britain had a global empire ruling over multiple ethic groups?
Answers to the European electorate and member states mate....
America is the only country which is nt an ethnic state so tf is your point
@@corny2603 no. Not even slightly
More like the Swiss than the US
As an Conservative Right Wing Black American,
I just want to say to all my european friends, i believe that Europe can be a great continent, filled with Resources, Culture, Industries and Military Might I do hope for the best for our Friends across the pond, Even though i am an American First Nationalist, i hope everybody from Europe can finally reach the true potential they once had in the past. And together, we can make the west stronger and more sufficent again.
I would love to see a video on the Swiss Cantons Model of Federalism
For EU to become a Federation it first needs a true Democratic System. Every Parliament in a Demoray needs to make new Law, not just vote for. The leaders shoudl also be elected and come from the political parties, so The Comission needs to go as well.
100% EU Needs reform first!
The Parliament does make laws. It can amend any law that comes before it and it has equal power to the member states to modify and pass legislation.
@@falsevacuum4667 It can not bring new legislation, only the Comission can.
@@G_Kchrst That doesn't contradict what I said at all
No absolutely not. Our right to self determination is absolute.
which you wouldn't lose. the right of self determination is a peoples right. not a countries right
@@AndDiracisHisProphet it is a countries right though
@@AndDiracisHisProphetSelf-Determination also means to be governed by people of your group. That is why the US cannot just expand ane annex Canada and Mexico and say "Well duh, you can still vote in our elections and you gor your state governments, so what are you complaining about?'
This was cool.
As a Mexican-American from the US a lot of Americans see Europeans as a whole no matter what European country you come from
Would love to see a video where you apply the Swiss model to the EU more in depth!
I don't think the EU will transform in a classical federation anytime soon. It would be closer to a confederation I would think. Getting countries to let go of individual foreign affairs and defense will be difficult though.
And somehow I think US would have its reservation about an EU that operates as a more unified block and have the hard power to back it up. For Russia it would be a nightmare, which speaks in its favor a lot IMO.
I also think that EU can't became federation, but can transform into like confederation, or something between federation and confederation.
this is a bad idea, all countries should retain their sovereignty and independence
exactly
Yes it should.
I’d love to see that video about the Swiss Model and how the EU could adopt it
Make playlist consisting these videos ...this one and swiss style one and other who are upcoming and related to this topic please
done :)
Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes!
Thank you! Do more simular videos! How about the best system, an EU educatiob system I’m an adult now. Since I’m 11 I’m dreaming of the United States of Europe!
well they are also doing so well in the USA, not heading for something close to a civil war ,not in anyway hated by 80% of the world because they want to destroy everybody , by the way if EU is going for Federation you can be sure the USA will attack because they don't allow any competition , we will be their new enemy , they already view EU as a possible threat
FEDERATION NOW 🙌🇪🇺❤
As an Italian i think this woud improve a lot our current situation
Yes
Hell no. I don't identify with Europe in the slightest. I identity with MY country.
Same here. I am Polish first, Catholic second, Subcarpathian third, and European doesn't even come into my considerations.
We definitely need to federalise EU. We deserve a sovereign Europe with its own constitution.
Yes.
big like for EU federation from Slovakia
Would love a united states of europe. hell yes
Short Response: No
Long Response: Im a soberanist and I think the EU must be a exclusive political and economic union, that the members has full soberanity over their countries and as a spanish I rather be in a federal union and I would like to, with hispanic american countries than another European countries that see Spain as a tourism place, as a farm and nothing more.
Oh yeah, a Spanish NaZionalist spouting nosense about an hypothetical "Iberosfera" that no one is asking for.
Honestly, all the politics could go as well, EU is great since it allows for free travel and free traid, beyond thats it's more of a burden than a help
I have multiple european nationalities so I always felt more european than any one of them. I live in Switzerland and I always thought that the swiss model of federalism could work for the eu as when you think about it, they are not so dissimilar in their hostory and sytuation, just at a different scale
One word: Yugoslavia
Lmao my thoughts exactly 😂
Two words: autocratic dictatorship
@@silverdoctor6298 it's two words
@@silverdoctor6298 much better with EU bureaucratic dictatorship
@@petarpetrov3591 Just corrected
Thank you for your videos! I am strongly for the federation!
To protect our democracy, preserve our long-standing cultures, and build a better future, we must work together. I look forward to the day when I will say, "Vive la République, vive la France, et vive l’Union"
I am pretty sure that 90% of the European people should give an united "NO!" on this question!
Luckily again no unanimity 😅
You wouldn't propose this if you haven't learned anything from Yugoslavia, USSR or literally from Austria-Hungary 😂
Oh yeah, a dictatorship, a discatorship, and a dictatorship
@@silverdoctor6298 I don't know how dictatorship will affect this superstate, though nationalism will affect it for sure just like these states I have mentioned above
@@soumyajitdas1729 ...no, I mean that the countries you mentioned were dictatorships.
Federated Europe would be terrible... saying this as an European, EU is not like the US... it is fine as it is...
Same from Poland
Swede here, we can tackle climate change alone ( 7:47 ) i wanna keep my country.
@@nenasiekas a fellow Swede I want to keep my country but also integrate with EU.
We are to weak individually and it’s extremely inefficient
@@nenasiek Who said anything about losing your country?
It might be "fine" for now, but there are other major players growing strong in the globe. Its importante to play the long term game...
The new 'earth-Imperium' sounds awsome!
I'm not even watching, we should.
Victor Orban is heavily and strongly opposing to Federation and Centralisation of EU. Orban is strongly and heavily supporting to Europe of Fatherlands.
good
Victor orban is a corrupt prick and 2 thirds if hungary hates him but cant get rid of him
So lets fix that
He has been a pain in the arse of europe for too long and we should honestly deport him
Since hes the source of most of issues you seem to blame the eu for
Like the nazis
Victor orban is a corrupt hypocrite
And one that has caused 90% of issues europe is now facing but still blames them for it to gain clout
His own people hate him but cant get rid of him
And im honestly shocked we haven't kicked out hungary yet
@@Pepek94
He is a hypocritical corrupt crony
Two thirds of his own country hate him but cant get rid of him
He is responsible for 90% of issues he blames European Union for
He is against a European federation because he knows that if it would ever occur he would loose his own little monopoly of Hungarian politics and likely even be arrested.
If after all that you still consider him good
Which tbf
Is likely still the case because " logic" isn't in either of your vocabularies
You should know Fidesz is bleeding supporters fast and orban will likely not be around after the next election.
I am highly supportive of working together but when talking about such a topic I become fearful my country would lose its identity. We already have a strong influence of the English langauge due to digitalization, combined with low birth rates and non-western immigrants taking our children's places. I don't want to be like the United States where everyone is divided and I feel like federation would cause that.
People are divided in the US because of the two-party system enforced by first-past-the-post voting. The EU and most of Europe uses parliamentarism and proportional representation in voting, so that isn't as much of a concern.
I live in a Federation already (Germany) and aside from more and more people speaking High German instead of their local dialect, I feel like each state's identity has stayed intact.
@@ninototo1 Mhm, and it's not as though people are not learning English just because there isn't a federation. The spread of common languages is a fact of the modern age and introducing more federalism to the EU would probably have only a modest affect on language.
different cultures often clash it certainly has something to do with it.@@falsevacuum4667
@@ninototo1I cant say the same for Brandenburg and Mecklenburg though
BRILLIANT video. So well put together and informational. Also thank you for using English and not American. It's very much appreciated🙏🏼🙌🏼🇪🇺
Glad you liked it!
English and not American? I think lost brain cells
Just make it like Switzerland, but retain state contribution instead of direct taxation of the citizens. It's far cheaper, offers some flexibility over fiscal policies, and protects citizens having member states as intermediaries.
But for everything else just copy-and-paste the Swiss model.
I find interesting the proposed model of concentric union levels. There would simultaneously be countries making a federation, and countries that don't fully commit to it and stay like in the current union, whether because they don't want to or because they don't yet meet the criteria needed to join.