How To Scrap Incinerated IC Chips For Gold Wires With A Shaker Table, Recycling Electronics MBMM
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ม.ค. 2015
- Concentrating gold bonding wires from incinerated IC chips on one of our small shaker tables using only water (NO CHEMICALS!!). We had a customer who sent us a ~20 lb sample of incinerated IC chips that had been removed from PCB's (printed circuit boards) and screened to 80 mesh. He is interested in running the ash from the incineration process on one of our small shaker tables to recover out the free gold from the waste ash. The table did a great job recovering the free gold bonding wires. These wires are ~ 30-40 microns in thickness so they are very very fine. For more info on our equipment or gold recovery shaker tables please give us a call or email:
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I could watch this video over and over.....
Moose Scrapper Thanks Moose! I just checked your channel, it looks like it has really taken off in the last 6 months or so!! Good job and keep up the good work!
Right...
Such a delicate balance between the three factors of water flow, table slope and vibration. Great to see a system like this that doesn't require chemicals! Very cool idea. I've seen similar (much larger) tables in gold mill videos on youtube. I like that this is a portable system and probably very easy to set up. I wonder if it is possible to use an even smaller table with perhaps a different vibration rate.
nice design on the table, I like the fact that it's not noisy... and there's nothing like that Yeller gold.
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Amazingly clever process. Seems strange, but it's genius to recover these sorts of metals from waste computer components. Keep up the good work!
Nathan Hopkins Thanks for the compliments. We are working to improve the process and hope to have a few more vids up soon. Stay tuned and thanks again for the encouragement.
Like that smooth action:nice table!
+Dave Imhausen Thanks!
Wow thank you for the quick answer
I love this video. and we do this every time we have IC chips. The Mount baker mining equipment we have is the most useful and versatile equipment in our shop.
Thanks Dale! That is a great compliment and we appreciate the feed back on our equipment. We will be in touch and look forward hearing more about your progress.
Jason, you mention adjusting the speed of the table??? ummm, I'd like to learn how to do that!!!
after playing with harsh chems and getting little results I'm certain if I was to pursue this venture this would be the way I would go simply because its cool af and the results are amazing the money I have wasted so far on lab stuff and chems wouldve been at least a good size down payment (not saying you take payments) on this superb unit thanks
Very well done and informative! Great video!
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im doing scraping as well and collecting ic chips and other stuff ill gona cruch and hand pan ;)
nice video ;)
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i watch this over and over and over
+Jay Stevens Thanks Jay!
anytime......
very impressive
Great Video!
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That is awesome
I like this table a lot. I have several hundred pounds of CPU and GPU that I need to process.
You make it seem too easy. I want one!!!
Geo Thanks Geo! It took was a long road, but we are really happy with the table.
great video sir
+Karl Lowri Thanks!
So would the next step be to smelt the #1 and #2 into a cone mold and then cupel it from there to get most, if not all, the gold from this process?
beautiful!
Thanks Moose! It is always nice to have some encouraging feed back from experts in the field.
mbmmllc Sorry I ask questions when I do not know.........
Jay Stevens How else will you find out answers?
i would say horn me moose, but mooses have too large of horns.....lol
I’m filling up a 5 gallon bucket full of 100 mesh I see chips I’ve been working on for a long time now. What was your yield from this run?
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Were do you buy the rubber matting for the shaker table?
Did you simpliy incinerate circuit boards then used the sluice ?
can that be silver that's flowing down the lower grooves?
What caused the craters or pock marks in that gold pan?
Hi, would this work with ground ceramic CPUs? Thanks
What you do with that ultra-fine dust, which is rubbish?
the black is a ceramic, almost as heavy as the gold, would love to see a filtration or something to separate the 2
Excelente
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the high density black material you couldn't pan out is probable tungsten platinum palladium or iridium.
Thanks for the tip
Wouldn't tungsten move into the same 'lane' as the gold as they almost got the same weight?
reacted to quickly, that was exactly what you said.
my bad.
Awesome process I need to make a shaker table like yours to process the boards I have been colleting for h past few years. This is much faster than picking them apart to separate each metal. Would you have plans for this small table, I will try to make one either way. Thanks and keep the videos coming!
Jeff
Hi Jeff-
Thanks for the comment and I am glad you like the process. We don't supply plans for the tables. Let us know how your shaker table turns and good luck! Thanks.
Great video, would a blue bowl achieve similar results given the same gold bearing material? Thanks
I don't think the blue bowl would have the same effect on the fine gold wires as the shaker table does, those wire are really small. If you try it out let us know how it works.
Had a thought while on the road today. What would your system do with TV screens and computer monitors? I guess the hammer mill would pulverize the glass and lead, what would happen on the table? Would the lead and other metals separate out like the gold, etc.? I'm not really sure of the hazards involved with this procedure. If it could work you would become a very prosperous person. What do you think? I enjoyed watching several videos, enjoyed them!!! Moose led me to them. I am disappointed that the lower grade boards didn't produce more gold. When you twink your table could there be more?
+Buddy Norville We have had a couple of different customers become interested in our hammer mills and tables for the processing of leaded glass. I can go into more detail if you are interested. Please send us an email at MBMMLLC@gmail.com or give us a call at 360-595-4445. Thanks
Where can I get a small shaker table like this please? I live in the uk
I wonder how much is copper
Hi love the video do you sell this model of table
This video is awesome and would you please send me some information on cost and where your located...thabks
We are located in Bellingham Washington and I would be more than happy to send over some literature on the system if you would please send me a email at info@mbmmllc.com.
The black you are seeing is mostly carbon. IC chips use fine elemental carbon in the epoxy mix.
You likely have copper, silver, aluminium and iron in the mix with the gold, possibly some palladium and rarely platinum as well. As for the shiny silver bits, that's likely silicon from crushed wafers, they often contain precious metals but only in tiny amounts and chemical separation would be needed. After incinerating chips I gently crush and sieve out the whole silicon chips before reducing the ash to a finer mesh. Once I have several kilos of just the silicon wafers then I'll process them together, I haven't even got close to that yet as they're so small and light.
Do you have any data as to the yield from 20lbs you ran?
Laughing Achilles Thanks for the in depth comment and information. I don't have any data from the 20 lbs as it was all sent back to my client after the test was run. I would like to get some more of this stuff and get some assays done so we can figure out our percent recovery. Thanks again, we have some more videos coming soon so stay tuned.
A lot of scrap metal dealers use electromagnetic separation processes. Does gold separate out with electromagnetic frequencies set correctly?
Nope, doesn't react to magnets at all
I live in Australia and do enjoy watching your videos.
Where can I buy the small shaker table and how much is it.
Thanks
If you would like more information on the cost of our products, you can email us at info@mbmmllc.com or call us at 360-595-4445. Thank you for watching!
As a matter of curiosity, what was the jet dry for? Breaking surface tension?
Yes, exactly
How much does a table like that cost.?
How much does a table like that cost?
Awesome! I want to work with you)
Nice!
Hello guys can you tell me what kind of soap did you used in the mix of the concentrate
+Leonardo Cruz Hello. We used Jet Dry. Thanks
I asked a few weeks ago if just the rubber pad was available and was told no. My question this time around is: how much for a unit?
+lost in the tundra Please send us an email at MBMMLLC@gmail.com and I can send you a full price list and info sheet with several different options or give us a call at 360-595-4445. Thanks
I've got just over 140kg's of powdered IC's+MLCC's. Would you recommend this as a way to clean it out?
+siggitiggi Yes, This would be a good way to separate the metals from the waste. Please call or email us at 360-595-4445 or MBMMLLC@gmail.com
mbmmllc sadly I'm situated in Iceland :)
+siggitiggi That is not a problem for us, we ship all over the world. Please let us know if you are interested and I can get you a quote.
I wonder what the price would be
have you heard anything yet about recovery from this? and how much did you start out with pound wise with this
+Perry Seay Thanks for the question. We haven't heard much back from this customer. He was tight lipped about the sample he sent and never did tell us the assay results of the various fractions. He bought a table and haven't heard much from him since. Thanks
me agradaria representar este industrial , por que este sistema triunfaria en colombia
+Franklin Barrero Please send us an email at MBMMLLC@gmail.com and we can talk about your ideas. Thanks
+mbmmllc how much for the tabel and crash mill and if it works well ? for electronic scrap
+Jason Avellano Please send us an email at MBMMLLC@gmail.com or call 360-595-4445 for more info and pricing. Thanks
1:18 smaller pieces of incinerated substrate, they can be crushed further as some of them may contain small bits of gold bonding wire.
1:24 crushed Si wafer from center of IC, that may be leached in AR as it may contain small bits of solder from where gold bonding wire was attached to Si wafer.
1:28 there is your gold bonding wire along with small metallic pins from inside of IC
2:22 gold bonding wires on the left side, beautiful.
patnor1011 7:30 all valid points. Also there are some copper wires there, I would save these as they do have some gold on tip where bonding wire was soldered to them.
Hi Patnor-
Thanks for the comments and the descriptions. I will be really interested to see what the customer comes back with for % recovery and how much gold may still be attached to the "waste" from the table. Thanks for all the expertise and I will let all you guys know if I get any more details about the chips or the recovery. Thanks
mbmmllc As I said some amount will be in uncrushed small pieces at 1:18 but that may be recoverable simply by grinding it again to the baby powder consistency. And amount of wires stuck on pins it all again depend on how material was crushed. If not enough then there may be fragments of wire still there but if you overdo grinding some wires will smear on pins as gold is very soft. Anyway it is recoverable, cheapest way will be to separate them to magnetic ones and non magnetic. There are many ways how to process them depend on what is your favorite method. They should be processed as if you deal with bigger quantities everything add up and IC packages contain silver and many of them do contain palladium which shoot up in price last few years, definitely worth to pursue if there are quantities to deal with.
mbmmllc What he is going to recover depend on what was in a mix. If there were a lot of BGA IC then these run 5g+ of gold from kilogram. Other mixed IC should average 1g/kg if there is not too many of big rectangular IC with thick legs on 2 sides - they look like eprom IC chip, they are low value (with exception of older type of soviet production these are the best).
Would love to see powdered ceramic cpu, like pentium pro!
LOL yeahhhh 1.5 gram of pure gold. The CPU now worths much more as they are getting rare under the CPU GOLD FEVER.
@@38911bytefree there's a lot of work smarter not harder, while I have nothing to back this up I think most people will be better off going for ram chips.
Curious if they stated how many pounds of chips were processed to get that bucket of material you ran and what would you estimate was the recovery weight
20 lbs of material from what it says in the description. I'd like to know recovery as well. Was a steady stream coming off that table!
Hi Blue-
We ran about 20 lbs. I don't know the recovery at this point, but I hope the customer will tell us once he gets his samples back. He told us on the phone he figured there would be about 3/4 of an ounce in there. I think he wasn't too far off because there was quite a bit of gold in the high grade. When I hear the actual recovery I will let you guys know. Thanks
you can cut the excess plastic from ic chips before processing
Great, thanks for the tip!
My father likes to used a lot the table its very efficient if you make it in private also i use knelson concentrator, am starting a new project at the midle of this year so i want to update somethings thanks
+Leonardo Cruz Sounds great. If you would like more info please call or email. 360-595-4445 or MBMMLLC@gmail.com Thanks
+mbmmllc thanks i appreciated
Very cool....where does one get one of these tables? Thanks.
pacoblancosmith If you can send me an email at MBMMLLC@gmail.com I can send you a full price list and info sheet on our equipment. All our tables are made here in our shop in the Washington State, USA.
the powder plus jet dry DOES NOT, make a liquid slurry.......how much water was added?
Jay Stevens We added about 2 US gallons of water to the powder plus a few drops of jet dry to make the slurry. Thanks for the clarification.
sorry if I came off harsh, didn't mean to
the black is a type of iron
oh and what was the final results? from total to start to amount recovered?
+Perry Seay I still haven't heard the results from what I sent back for him to assay.
Nice job on that little table. Do you know where he got the chips?
Hi jdelusia
I don't know where he got the chips, but I do know he is in the the PCB recycling industry. He may have bought them and incinerated them or he may have removed them himself, not sure. There sure was a lot of gold in there though. Thanks
Nice videos as usual. That little table looks like it works really well. Is the drive mechanism underneath?
jdeluisa The drive is located on the concentrates side of the table. It can be seen here on our larger table at 2:16 th-cam.com/video/N5GBGbcDY6c/w-d-xo.html very simple. The drive on the big table and small table are the same. Thanks
did that machine work for ore rock gold ?
The shaker table was originally designed to concentrate gold from ore. Here is a link to our website that goes over in great detail about the shaker table: www.mbmmllc.com/product/shaker-tables/
how much do you charge to do this? or what is your cut i guess i should say percentage i mean of gold recovered? or how do you make one of these tables or buy one?
Hi Perry. You can get more info on the equipment we sell by sending us an email MBMMLLC@gmail.com or calling 360-595-4445. Thanks
What was the yield on the ~20lbs. of IC powder?
Customer never told us, but there was a lot of gold there
@@mbmmllc The yield is important to us. Is there a way you can reach the customer and ask them, please?
NOT A HIPPY! A chemist and HAZMAT TECH. Not to worry, you'll be sick enough to stop soon.
i was like omg hes gunna be rich, then realized thats some seriously deadly shit...
What are your conditions for processing....I have 1000 pounds of Ediacrian (PRE-Cabrian)Concentrated acid washed material that I need gone through...Can travel to you location....Looking to get down to what I really have...All material is gathered in concordance with all applicable law....Thank you...
Thanks for thinking of us, but we don't do any custom processing
Now how can i get ahold of you?? i wanna know more about this because i have alot of boards and pins and chips that i wanna get processed
+Scott Furence Send us an email at MBMMLLC@gmail.com or call 360-595-4445. Thanks
How much does a table like that cost and where can I get one?
For pricing, please send us an email at Info@mbmmllc.com or call 360-595-4445 You can also visit our website here: mbmmllc.com/
Where did you send to get the assay?
mymuseofme We use a company in Osburn Idaho called American Analytical Services. They have some good prices on assays. Here is their website: www.americananalytical.net/
You guys have a fine set up and are doing what I am learning but you have definitely taken it to a art form a would love to see more videos on this exact subject maybe even show how a smaller version of this set up could be put together. Thanks for the video keep up the good work and also I was interested in what the total amount you guys got from that run
Thank you for the support! Here is a video of the smallest PCB system we manufacture: th-cam.com/video/TBc5XaBPx_0/w-d-xo.html
price for this shaker table please.
Please send us an email at MBMMLLC@gmail.com and I can send you a full price list and info sheet with several different options or give us a call at 360-595-4445. Thanks
so how much gold was collected?
Hi Mymuse-
We sent the whole sample back and haven't heard from the customer about the total amount of gold collected. He was working on getting it melted down last time we talked, but haven't heard much since. I will let you guys know when I hear something.
Is it pure 22 to 24k gold?
question is how were they incinerated ?
+Zack Craig Good questions. I am not sure how my customer incinerates his chips...
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how many pounds of chips?, pounds of powder ? did it take?
Jay Stevens Our customer sent us right around 20 lbs of incinerated chips. Thanks
mbmmllc what was the yield of gold from 20 pounds of dust?
Jay Stevens Hi Jay, I still haven't heard back from my customer on the results. We sent all his material back to him so he could further refine it. He thought there was about 3/4 of an ounce in the 20 lbs and from the panning it looked like he was pretty close.
How many .
Interesting. Hope they were properly incinerated. Safety third!
In my opinion, since the ash is from electronic parts, it is likely that what you are seeing that is gold is plated gold of only a few microns of gold and the rest of the base metal are other material but not gold. As such if you weigh those "gold" dust, it is not going to be the weigh of gold.
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Wrong, it's called bond wires.
@@grzlbr Gold bonding wires are not the only metal used in a semiconductor. There are also plated leads. Gold bonding wires are not used in all semiconductor. It is sometimes replaced with aluminium bonding wires. As mentioned earlier, what you see as gold may not be fully gold. 100% certain that it contains some amount of plated gold.
@@dachee Total BS, you can clearly see all the bond wires, you falsely claimed they were not.
@@grzlbr Your statement has no substance. I will stop my discussion with you.
What is the price
What is the model number and price of this table?
Please fill out our contact us form here: mbmmllc.com/contact-us/ if you would like more information about our machinery or to purhcasing one.
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I wonder how much a table cost!?......
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Try to remove all plastics out of the equation dude and then the job will be much less fucking around keep working because it pays dividends when we work hard keep on going long live the repubic peace.
Shane aka Brains.
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What are ic chips
They are on computer boards, lots of gold wires in them
Thanks
the black is iron, run a magnet over it
+Jay Stevens Thanks for the tip!
+Jay Stevens PCB's (printed circuit boards) would have a very, very low iron content, that's if it had any at all. Its likely copper from the pcb layers mixed with a bunch of nasty stuff from when it was burned. Maybe a copper/lead/silver mix with some other nasty stuff. I really doubt its iron though.
I really like this small table but at $16700 AUD she's a bit out of budget.
How many.
For pricing, please send us an email at Info@mbmmllc.com or call 360-595-4445 You can also visit our website here: mbmmllc.com/
Sorry Jason but the setting of your table is obviously not in the way it supposed to be .....
Yes ,- the table slope in two directions ( depending on the size of material and conditions of the deck surface ,- the water amount adjusted to it ( stabil !!!) and the important frequenz of the motion and
the "right" motion profil as well ( s. down below)
Finer material require a special deck surface and a higher speed rate ,- as all the settings for this
peticular material .......
More coarse material a opposite setting
You can cut the gold fraktion easy "with water" and have in one hit a meltable product
The feed have to be adjuste to the setting of the table also ,- may with a auger or conveyor belt ...
If everything is set propper,- you can walk away and do something else ....
We ( for instance ) work with a flotationssystem after the table ........
And of coarse we use a demagnetize system , to get rid of magnetic minerals ...
But your melting technique is for us a interesting methode to integrate it in our production process !
( Your smelting and refinering technique with lead or bismuth for small amound of gold is pretty need !)
We watch your activity ,- your efford ......and enjoy it ! Well done
Great to see you open the hardrock mine !!!!!! ( we learn a lot about hard rock mining !!!!)
Shortly back to the motion "picture" ......
Holman or Wilfley ?
From Germany ( former placer machine mining in B.C. )
Merry Christmas ,- a healthy and successful 2024
I should never ever even think about getting or trying to make one of those tables because I'd just be running the stuff through time and time again!! I just noticed that phrase "never ever even" is a palindrome. Cool!
Poo
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click bait... says no chemicals... uses jet dry
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a quick question ( you work in domain) what is the reason if you incinerate the ic and grind you will got a considerable low yield in comparation with sulfuric acid method?(when use h2so4 to dissolve the epoxy )