Just a side note, some of these dB measuring phone apps are limited by what the phones own microphone can pickup. If 112dB is it's limit, then that all it will ever show.
Good call out. Also unless it’s a pretty high end SPL meter even the lower end dedicated SPL meters are pretty inaccurate. A phone SPL app using its on board mic is probably pretty bad with the accuracy. A re-test with one of the meters used for car audio SPL competitions would be quite interesting
Block walls are very soundproof, it’s the roof that lets the sound escape. Our band practiced in a block garage for years. Once we properly insulated the roof, you could barely hear anything outside. No matter how loud we played.
@@ourclarioncall insulation batts are great for insulation, duh, and also help with sound diffusion. Put as many baffles as you can on top of them, you're good to go. Unless you're already building anyway, an extra internal wall is not good value. Better to baffle the interior.
It's the low frequencies that are problematic. Higher frequencies like guitar distortion doesn't go through the walls as easy as what the kick drum or bass guitar would.
Well an arena full of em will kill your hearing. ACDC in 82’ was a monster! It actually made me nervous. Cliffs bass was pounding through my chest, i had to actually hit myself to make sure my heart Rythym was beating on its own beat & not his. Motorhead, 80’s Megadeth some seriously loud chit live
ya but thats the head thru the subamp to thew board out to a PA... and ya PA is gonna be fucking loud as fuck but the amp alone cranked to maxed can still be heard at diff sections of the crowd.. thats why they have sound checks and why half the time ya might have seen all these speakers and amps only 1 of them stacks was the one producing the sound... unless i missed sumtin in the way ya posted that lol.
I love the "shock and awe" in modern videos of cranked Marshall stacks when this was part of a standard rig for any successful local UK rock band back when I started playing in the mid '70s! If you didn't already have a rig like this (or, better still, a proper stack with 2 cabs), it was something you aimed to get before long. Fresh out of high school, I was lucky enough to practise for my first gig at the rehearsal space of one of the main local bands here on the Isle of Wight - a barn packed with a wall of Marshall stacks! No earplugs of course (we didn't even consider using them back then...), but it was a wonderful way to start! Nothing I've played in recent years has ever really compared. 😉
This was just as true in the 1980s and 90s, a 50w Marshall half stack and later a 100w Boogie Mk II, with a Marshall 4x12 was my standard gig rig, and we played loud. And that was just me, we had a second guitarist with a similar rig and a bass player with an SVT WITH 8x10 cab but we weren’t playing in our bedrooms we were in rehearsal spaces and fairly large clubs where people came to actually see the bands, not background music while they had drinks and dinner; those were epic days but they’re gone now
Too true, now we have forums discussing local venues that have quiet stages , plugging directly into the sound desk etc , bollocks to that! If you can't have your own amp on stage at a decent volume that allows some controlled feedback if you want it, what really is the point?
Iiiiiiii like it!!!!!!! Yep. Even at 70 years old I Liiiiiiiiike it. I remember as a kid, 20, I had an Ampeg V4 100W that I would turn it up all the way in a small room and just blast away for hours. Of course I wear hearing aids now. You’re going to have a great studio soon Ole Buddy ❤️
It is so unbelievably loud I couldn’t bear to jam with a guy who has one and insisted on playing at full volume in his house. He was talented but that amount of pain to use that amp was insane.
That's a nice call on the JCM-2000 DSL--one of the better Marshalls _ever_: The designer of the JCM-2000, Santiago Alvarez, is a genius. Also, replacing the fiberboard back-panel of a Marshall cabinet with a panel made of high-quality birch plywood really improves the overall frequency response of the cabinet. Years ago (1990s?), Marshall started installing the sawdust-and-Elmer's-glue back-panel as a cost-saving measure; the original Marshall cabinets included birch plywood back panels. :) If one happens to be handy with a saw and a soldering iron, replacing the back panel of a Marshall cabinet with a high-quality birch plywood back-panel is both inexpensive and easy to do. You simply pull off the old Tolex and re-use it on the new panel, with the help of rubber cement. My 6100-LM (EL34 model) roars through a 1960 Classic (with Green-backs).
I have a JCM2000 DSL 50 the sweet spot for the volume knob on Ultra Gain 1 is at around 6 that's where it opens up to full but before it starts to 'flub'. I play metal so have the Gain at around 6-7. Modern reactive attenuators are the best thing for guitar in the past 20 years.
That was fun to watch. When I worked at Sam Ash (USA music store chain) I got to play through 3 Marshall full stacks - barely had the volume cracked open - and it was deafening, no doubt, but MAN what a FEELING! Chugging on the E string and just feeling it pound my chest was amazing. Hahaha. Absolutely completely impractical for any musical situation ever. But it was awesome to experience! Also I'm really impressed with the tone you got here. I saw Tele (bright) + Marshall (also bright) and prepared for icepick tone, but I was very pleasantly surprised. Well done!
By far the loudest concert I've ever been to was in February 1994 on the Black Sabbath "Cross Purposes" tour at the State Theater in Detroit, MI. Their line-up at the time was Tony Iommi-lead guitar, Geezer Butler-Bass, Tony Martin-Vocals, Bobby Rondinelli-Drums, Geoff Nichols-Keyboards, with opening bands Morbid Angel & Motorhead. I'm not an Amp expert so I don't know the wattage, specifications, etc.. about what they were using. But basically Iommi had on his side of the stage, four double-stacked Laney amplifiers for his Lead guitar, on Geezers side he had four double-stacked Marshall amps for his Bass. And the keyboard player (who also did backing vocals, and on a few songs played a 2nd guitar) had some kind of Peavey amp. The thing was, this theater was such a small place, it made it that much louder. I couldnt hear hardly anything for 3 days afterward, and you could feel the floor rumbling underneath you a lot of the time it was so loud. *BUT- in 2007 I went to see Black Sabbath (or "Heaven & Hell") as they called the band at this point, since Ronnie James Dio was back singing in Black Sabbath again for the 3rd time at this point). In London, Ontario Canada at the John Labatte Arena. Their Line-up at this time was: Tony Iommi-lead guitar, Geezer Butler-Bass, Ronnie James Dio-vocals, and Vinnie Appice-Drums; and opening bands were: Down & Megadeth. The problem at their concert this time, was that it was in such a huge arena this time, the sound wasn't even close to being as loud as when I saw them at the extremely small State Theater concert hall in Detroit in 1994. They used the exact same kind and number of amplifiers as they did at the Detroit concert, Four stacks of Laneys on Iommi's side, and four stacks of Marshalls on Geezers side. But being in such a huge arena this time, I think they should have added some extra amplifiers. Granted, I was on the complete opposite end of the arena from the stage this time, While at their "Cross Purposes" tour in Detroit I was only about 25 feet from the stage.
Amps don't necessarily get louder the more you turn them up. They have a thing I know as headroom, where after a point they just won't get louder. CSG Guitars has a great video on how this works. Its the reason I think (short of the phone not being able to go above 112) the meter is peaking.
Is it loud enough to practice in a band? I want to get a Marshall and send one near my used guitar store for cheap but don’t want to waste the money if it isn’t loud enough, I plan on getting the half stack version
@@unclejj13er75 thank you, I got mine recently and you are correct, it’s a half stack and I never have to go above volume 5 ever my old half stack I had to go up to volume 6-7 but it was solid state which I heard aren’t as loud
I've had one of these amps for the last 22 years. I don't know what I was thinking...too loud and powerful for my needs. It's been sitting in my basement forever with little use so it still looks almost brand new. I use mostly combo amps these days. I've been thinking about selling it for years but never seem to go through with it...I think I just like to look at it when I'm down there...like an art piece or something lol.
@@rockinguitarist1 Part of the reason I should be selling it is because of a woman too lol. As I've bought other amps along the way, I keep telling my wife that I'm selling the Marshall to justify buying the other amps. Do you happen to be located in the NY/NJ area? I would consider selling it to you..
@@richardchorley1593 Very good point Richard. That's the main reason I've kept it this long. It's reached a certain "antique" status where it's just cool to look at...kinda like a cool piece of art. Doesn't really take up that much space either.
I had a JMP 50W head going through a 2 x 12" cab when I was young and I would run it at 0.5 for a comfortable level to play with the band. After a while, I switched to setting it at 2 and turning the guitar volume knob down. These Marshalls are insanely loud.
Similar story here... In the early 2000s friend sold 16yr old me a '77 mk2 50w JMP head for... £175. I spent the rest of my savings on a 1960a cab and practically rode that thing around the home counties and it was the BEST.
interesting video. glad you did the outside measurement . looking forward to seeing the final result. I'm a retired audio tech and I've fixed and measured a few Marshall amps. my audio power meter tops out at 100 watts and all Marshalls were able to take it past full scale (so let's say 105 W or so) no F amps ever made it close . 85W being the best. but of course the dB difference is insignificant. i did a video measuring the boss katana in here somewhere. it talks about dB a bit. good to see you are now getting lots of views and likes.
In 2019 after 8 months of sleep deprivation in an apartment I decided to shake the whole building with extreme Bass & Power Chord treatments. Plucking 5-6 string open with a whammy bar making warplanes sound. I had model airplanes doing 360s 20 feet away from the cabinet. I got evicted because I had extreme loud 200 db blows out your ears I was so angry everyone keeping me up 8 months I got evicted for that type of noise retaliation. I will Never forget that concert. This video was great.
Hi guys, I downloaded your Studio Rats ‘80’s patch off Tone Cloud today and it sounds great! Started playing EVH with that patch and it sounded killer. Weirdly, started playing a couple Cars songs and even THEY sounded great. It does what it says!
Back in the late 90s I borrowed a dB-measuring device (what ever it is called by professionals ;-)), turned up my JCM900 100W half stack and reached 126 dB at max. Loud enough to kill a candle.
I recently picked up a Stereo EL 34 100/100. Ran the power amp at 100 percent & JMP-1 at 5 or 7 into 2 quads, and walked outside my house with a wireless system just to hear what the neighbours were listening to. It was at this point I realised I will need to practice more or get better lessons. My poor neighbours. 🤣🤣 The ground was shaking & so were the cats! (Don't worry I had them locked in the front room at the other end of the house.)
Can't tell you how many gigs I've played in tiny bars and Cat's still haul this setup in then can barely turn it up . I get it, own one myself but for gigs my Fender Reverb Deluxe is more than enough . And I'm all about the "One Trip" motto. I want to haul ALL my gear in just one trip from the car to the venue. To each their own though , these are classics for a reason . It's great feeling to stand in front of one and feel it thump right through your chest
I have an ‘87 JCM800 100 watt. But my ‘74 Bassman 50 will always be my go to amp. No matter what else I try the Fender always comes out on top. Perfect for any size gig.
I'm a total Marshall fan but my old mesa boogie triple rectifier would shatter the concrete blocks i mean that amp was louder than any other I have came in contact with. 🎸
I think these amps sound noticeably louder to modern guitarists simply because we are used to smaller more controllable amps, not many of us have the space nor the kind of shows that would need a stack bringing the volume, winding up a stack is brilliant fun though and I recommend it if you haven't had the chance, almost every local show I have played has the usual deluxe reverbs and ac30s but even then they have a ton of volume behind them, if I could transport a stack and use it to its full potential I absolutely would though.
Is it loud enough to practice in a band? I want to get a Marshall and send one near my used guitar store for cheap but don’t want to waste the money if it isn’t loud enough, I plan on getting the half stack version
I think minimum 15 watt competes with a drummer but only if you want to play dirty all the time. If you want loud clean you need 100 watts, maybe 50 watt but depends on the model.
Excellent progress on the build, dwarfs the old place! 😲 Very early gig of mine, many, many years ago - Dick Dale - 2x 2203 JCM800 heads pegged w' a 1960A cab for each. Cabs at the back of the stage, turned to point at the wall in a 400-500 capacity room. Knock the wind out of you & then some......
You guys ought to do this for other classic British amps also. Like for example, one of the few shows I ever wore ear protection to see was Saxon who I think were running all Laney amps at the time. That show was so loud I was more feeling the music through my entire skeleton than actually “hearing” it 😂 (Those guys were very cool after the show, too, they took a lot of time to meet the fans, shake hands & sign autographs and all)
I've been in metal for 44 years and have spent the last 20 in death metal bands. And to this day, Saxon in 84' was by far the loudest sound I've ever experienced. Or ever will again :)
@@reverendtos4271 So Rev, I am absolutely NOT a pure “metal” guy (folk/country/rock for me) but I appreciate good musicianship across genres. Saxon was REALLY GREAT to see, way outside my “zone”; but everybody who plays should absolutely go see people who play and write & perform different styles of music and learn from what those people do and do not do. It’s good for the human brain to get outside your little “comfort zone” occasionally.
@@brucemorris3830 Absolutely! I play in a Satanic Death Metal band, but also love Light Opera, 70's Prog Rock, Steeleye Span and The Bill Evans Trio. I shudder to think of a life listening to only one thing \m/
It would have been interesting to hear the clean channel cranked and how long it stayed clean for to compare... with the ultra gain channel it just sounded like you were piling on more clipping and compression.
Really enjoyed that 🙂 The type of analytical thing I would do just to see. It’s also great as it gives folk thinking of building a non sound proof man cave in the garden an idea of what they can get away with without upsetting the neighbours
61 yr old pro player here. I still use 2 blue voodoo cabs w/vintage 30s and a 71 super lead. can't have them behind you anymore and crank them like back in the day. so I side shoot them. NOTHING LIKE FEELING THE POWER!!! bass player side shoots 2 4x10s. we can get away with it cause the singer uses in ears. I go HYSTERICAL when people sit in on my rig. watching them try to control it is always fun.
I had JCM 900 that sounded amazing, had to sell it because it only did at high volumes, which I can't do home. New Katana II can be dialed pretty close to this (I know, it will never be like real tubes) but my wife hasn't kicked me out of the house so, that'll do
@@MOAB-UT Great tool. Fractal effin sounds good. Too many possibiltys for me hihi, but one can use it in a simple way as well i suppose. I have tried the FM3 trough very good active studio speakers at a music store. Blowed me away, such quality sounds. I dont think many could tell the difference in a blind test, and all the great fx. I hope you will be more than pleased :)
@@svenzia Agreed. FM9 is the one to get right now- top of the heap. Better be for $1800, but a value when you consider all the gear it virtually replaces. You are 100% right that in the mix, you would never tell amp from the FM9. The tones are clear, consistent and the effects are next level. It's essentially the floor version of their AFXIII- which, with pedals will run close to $3k. If it's good enough for Metallica, Def Leppard, John Mayer, Joe Satriani, etc., then it is good enough for me. I mostly play to my dog. Wife leaves the room every time...wasn't like that 20 years ago! It's ironic because I play far better today.
How loud is a Marshall HALF stack? Not nearly as loud as the multiple Marshall FULL stacks I heard at all the concerts I went to in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Nothing will ever replaced those Marshall walls of sound. Also, nothing will ever replace my hearing loss. Lol! Every guitarist should experience playing in front of a cranked Marshall FULL stack. It’s a feeling of a lifetime that I will never forget. I used to play gigs with a band that used three Marshall FULL stacks. You could feel the power even from backstage. Amazing! Great video by the way. Liked and subscribed!
for those that are interested it other marshall levels, i have a plexi 100w slp. a 1959 cicuit. through 2 12" speaker ( a quarter stack) on a proper db meter it reads 123 db 6 feet away. i put it through a rivera rockcrusher attenuator most of the time. let me say you need a good attenuator to pull 120 db down to 90 db and withstand the heat load.
Just think….EVH used to have his Marshalls cranked every time in the early days in small clubs and the backyard parties. No earplugs in those days. What does it take to blow a Celestion speaker? What a score on this amp and cab James.
I’m still able to take 2 100w Marshall jubilees out to shows and can usually have em on 6/7 vol - outdoor shows - truly blessed I’m not in a band that I have to be wired direct to PA
I figure the phone call went something like this “Hey Paul, the walls and roof are done, you need to come over, I have to show you something!” - “I don’t have time rn, I’m recording” - “I bought a 100W Marshall, wanna try it?” - “I’m on my way” …
Great fun, lads - well done. Be VERY interesting to see the non-scientific but thats not the bloomin point difference once the internals are finished. Lovely video to kick Friday off - thanks.
Always proper fun diming a Marshall. Might want to have the checked over by a tech. A healthy 100 watter puts out more than 112 😊 my 76’ superlead running 2 el34’s through an open back cab with 97 db speaker peaks at 119 and my 100 watt 6100 peaks at 121. Looking forward to seeing how the new place turns out 👍🏼
I remember first and last concert of Yngwie Malmsteem in Poland. in well proof, small concrrt hall in Katowice (now it is Miasto Ogrodów). Hall was prepared for orchestral playing or theater... But there was a lot of YJM Marshalls Everywhere. It was monster sound. Tons of Decibels. i did not hear for 1 hour. after.
I had one of those. The green channel was excellent dimed in crunch mode with a boost in front. The Ultra channel was just okay to me. Too fizzy and had some strange EQ sound I could never EQ out to my liking. This experiment would be fun with a healthy Super Lead.
This is not about the 100 watt Marshall but when I was 20 I had this 300 watt Peavey Musician series amplifier, 400 watt Peavey PA with feedback sweeps. Another friend had an Acoustic 270 and various other equipment. My PA was turned as loud as you could get it without steady feedback in a 8 x 16 foot room drums and everything crammed into it and you could barely hear the voices over the amps. For some crazy reason we wanted it as loud as we could stand it... this was back in the mid-70's my ears rang for 3 days after that session. I've regained my hearing since then and found out most of the time these days the big amps are mostly for show and that the volume on the stage isn't that bad but the people in front of the mains wouldn't know that!! I went to a concert once that they had the mains so loud that you couldn't really hear the music, it all turned to noise. I tried recording a little of it on my phone but it overwhelmed the circuits and all you got was distorted version of the songs they were playing. Friend of mine has that particular amp and most the time where he plays since he didn't have a brake he had to keep the volume under 1 at most of his gigs because they are just that loud. I have a Marshall MG100HDFX and it's no where near as loud as that beast!
Do this with a 2204 or 4010 50 watt, the ones I’ve had, the master from 7 to 10 literally doubled in volume, like a rabid dog. This amp sounds really good, is it an early UK made DSL? Also, would you know which speakers are in the cabinet(65,70,75’s?)
To think I used to gig regularly for DECADES with EVH5150 and cab.... no earplugs... I now struggle at times with some of the high mid frequencies in one ear when mixing 😢
It's interesting. I would never own one again these days. The last 100 watt Marshall I had was about 20 years. There's just no need for me to have one these days. But that really goes for a 100 watt of any amp. The volume is just way more than you really need in playing out these days and there not what I would practice with. Even with a load box, as it's just using up tubes when I don't need to. As I sit here watching videos while practicing into my Fractal FM3 into a ISP active guitar wedge. Even the Mesa Mark V 25 I have sitting next to it, I never max out.
saw dinosaur jr the other week and they had 6 of these all with pre amps and they were mic’d up to the stage speakers! and that was just for the guitarist. my ears were ringing for a good 5-6 days
I cranked a JCM800 full stack once and stood right in front of it, hit a chord and the air pressure literally took my breath away, epic sound, I won't ever be doing that again though, it was insanely loud!
@@MattsGAP Being tall means next to nothing. You might have shaved off 1dB. I am glad you survived. I was exposed to a single loud sound and my ear has been ringing every day and night ever since. That was over 10 years ago. Be careful. Be very careful.
@@MOAB-UT sound advice, I was literally facing it with my head over the top, and in a big room, so the noise went the other way. This was nearly 20 years ago... I learned my lesson😀. I have tinnitus too, from standing next to drummers mainly!!
@@MattsGAP Too bad about your tinnitus. Do you find stress makes it louder? I do. Some days are better than others though. When I feel good, I tend to play my guitar louder and it comes right back. It's manageable but something I have to pay close attention to.
Your meter had 112Max in the bottom right, was that the maximum measured, or the meters maximum? If the latter, a real DB meter would be a better choice, and so far just about every studio I have been to had one, as well as every sound guy at a venue because of volume threshold laws.
I think the speakers can only get so loud then you'd have to add more to be louder? Or bigger size? The speakers would probably tear if it went over 112?
It muds out massively at full volume. If you want to "hear" the power tubes, turn up the volume, dial back the gain. If you want saturation, turn up the gain, keep the volume where it sounds best, and add an OD if you need even more "push."
Very underrated, good get. In 2002 from Musician's Friend I bought a TSL60 + 1960A 4x12 + 2002 Les Paul Standard + Marshall 2x12 cab loaded with a V30 and a Heritage 12. The salesman said "if you're not playing stadiums you want the TSL60 head." Versatile with very good clean sound. Still have them along with a Matchless Lightning. The TSL came from Marshall loaded with the fine =C= Svetlana EL34's and I wouldn't use anything else, I've tried.
I graduated that year. I had a 02 Gothic Explorer I miss dearly. How'r those v30 holding up? I got a Harley Benton cab with v30's. Not happy with the low end sound. Speakers probably need broken in. Running a Dsl20hr into it.
About twenty years ago I was a sit in guitar tech for a buddy of mine. They were playing an outdoor venue in front of about 60K people. My buddy played a Les Paul custom into a Marshall JCM800 and two 4x12’s. During sound check with cranked it thinking if anywhere… Sound guy came over the PA and was like, hey Van Halen you wanna be in the PA or not?
That amp has a great clean channel. I would have thought it would get up to 120db fully cranked. Now do a Boss Katana head on that same cab in that same room! See if it can get close to that JCM!
SPL is supposed to be measured at 1M from the center. Also the phone's mic has limitations. I would expect 123db+ on a meter designed for this sort of application. I use a calibrated add on microphone that plugs into the phones jack.
AC30 will get you to roughly 115 dB a meter in front of the speaker. 2-3 dB more when you run it at full tilt. Enough so that it was painful to be in the same room with good earplugs on when we tried it some 20 years ago.
The threshold of discomfort is approximately 110 db, actual pain happens closer to 130 db. Nit picking for sure but a cranked Marshall is definitely loud but not painful. A 747 at takeoff can be extremely loud at levels approaching 140 db, obviously the volume is based on distance and which engine the plane is equipped with.
Just a side note, some of these dB measuring phone apps are limited by what the phones own microphone can pickup. If 112dB is it's limit, then that all it will ever show.
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Good call out. Also unless it’s a pretty high end SPL meter even the lower end dedicated SPL meters are pretty inaccurate. A phone SPL app using its on board mic is probably pretty bad with the accuracy. A re-test with one of the meters used for car audio SPL competitions would be quite interesting
I was hoping someone was gonna point that out! The app looked so good that I didn't even realize it was his phone until it topped out at 112 like that
Block walls are very soundproof, it’s the roof that lets the sound escape. Our band practiced in a block garage for years. Once we properly insulated the roof, you could barely hear anything outside. No matter how loud we played.
Window also tends to resonate a lot
What did you put on the roof ?
Also do you think adding an extra internal brick wall would make a big difference?
@@ourclarioncall insulation batts are great for insulation, duh, and also help with sound diffusion. Put as many baffles as you can on top of them, you're good to go. Unless you're already building anyway, an extra internal wall is not good value. Better to baffle the interior.
It's the low frequencies that are problematic. Higher frequencies like guitar distortion doesn't go through the walls as easy as what the kick drum or bass guitar would.
@@TT-df9hpinteresting . Anything that can be down about those frequencies?
Well an arena full of em will kill your hearing. ACDC in 82’ was a monster! It actually made me nervous. Cliffs bass was pounding through my chest, i had to actually hit myself to make sure my heart Rythym was beating on its own beat & not his. Motorhead, 80’s Megadeth some seriously loud chit live
Dennis Perin, yep
Yeah but even in a stadium they don't use the amp to fill it. It's just mic'd up and the pa system is what does the main output.
@@mykeday instead of the pa a wall of cabs and the pa : P
ya but thats the head thru the subamp to thew board out to a PA... and ya PA is gonna be fucking loud as fuck but the amp alone cranked to maxed can still be heard at diff sections of the crowd.. thats why they have sound checks and why half the time ya might have seen all these speakers and amps only 1 of them stacks was the one producing the sound... unless i missed sumtin in the way ya posted that lol.
Dennis Perin, yeah Motorhead was the loudest show i had been to back in 87, my hearing has never been the same, Thanks Lemmy.
I love the "shock and awe" in modern videos of cranked Marshall stacks when this was part of a standard rig for any successful local UK rock band back when I started playing in the mid '70s! If you didn't already have a rig like this (or, better still, a proper stack with 2 cabs), it was something you aimed to get before long. Fresh out of high school, I was lucky enough to practise for my first gig at the rehearsal space of one of the main local bands here on the Isle of Wight - a barn packed with a wall of Marshall stacks! No earplugs of course (we didn't even consider using them back then...), but it was a wonderful way to start! Nothing I've played in recent years has ever really compared. 😉
This was just as true in the 1980s and 90s, a 50w Marshall half stack and later a 100w Boogie Mk II, with a Marshall 4x12 was my standard gig rig, and we played loud. And that was just me, we had a second guitarist with a similar rig and a bass player with an SVT WITH 8x10 cab but we weren’t playing in our bedrooms we were in rehearsal spaces and fairly large clubs where people came to actually see the bands, not background music while they had drinks and dinner; those were epic days but they’re gone now
And around that time, big Orange rigs were about too, and we did Cream covers until our ears were bleeding ;-)
Nothing else sounds like it because your ears are shot mate 🤣
The Marshall Stack is and always will be the Holy Grail of amps. A thing of glory.
Too true, now we have forums discussing local venues that have quiet stages , plugging directly into the sound desk etc , bollocks to that! If you can't have your own amp on stage at a decent volume that allows some controlled feedback if you want it, what really is the point?
Iiiiiiii like it!!!!!!! Yep. Even at 70 years old I Liiiiiiiiike it. I remember as a kid, 20, I had an Ampeg V4 100W that I would turn it up all the way in a small room and just blast away for hours. Of course I wear hearing aids now. You’re going to have a great studio soon Ole Buddy ❤️
The detection limit of your phone is probably 112 dB.
It is so unbelievably loud I couldn’t bear to jam with a guy who has one and insisted on playing at full volume in his house. He was talented but that amount of pain to use that amp was insane.
This is what my parents say my guitar sounds like at 0.1% volume
That's a nice call on the JCM-2000 DSL--one of the better Marshalls _ever_: The designer of the JCM-2000, Santiago Alvarez, is a genius. Also, replacing the fiberboard back-panel of a Marshall cabinet with a panel made of high-quality birch plywood really improves the overall frequency response of the cabinet. Years ago (1990s?), Marshall started installing the sawdust-and-Elmer's-glue back-panel as a cost-saving measure; the original Marshall cabinets included birch plywood back panels. :) If one happens to be handy with a saw and a soldering iron, replacing the back panel of a Marshall cabinet with a high-quality birch plywood back-panel is both inexpensive and easy to do. You simply pull off the old Tolex and re-use it on the new panel, with the help of rubber cement. My 6100-LM (EL34 model) roars through a 1960 Classic (with Green-backs).
I heard that all Marshall amps have a secret mode to turn up to 11, includes a free smoke effect too.
I have a JCM2000 DSL 50 the sweet spot for the volume knob on Ultra Gain 1 is at around 6 that's where it opens up to full but before it starts to 'flub'. I play metal so have the Gain at around 6-7. Modern reactive attenuators are the best thing for guitar in the past 20 years.
I still have mine! Rarely use it. It's so damn loud, heavy and bulky. It's a statement of how rock n roll used to be.
That was fun to watch. When I worked at Sam Ash (USA music store chain) I got to play through 3 Marshall full stacks - barely had the volume cracked open - and it was deafening, no doubt, but MAN what a FEELING! Chugging on the E string and just feeling it pound my chest was amazing. Hahaha. Absolutely completely impractical for any musical situation ever. But it was awesome to experience! Also I'm really impressed with the tone you got here. I saw Tele (bright) + Marshall (also bright) and prepared for icepick tone, but I was very pleasantly surprised. Well done!
By far the loudest concert I've ever been to was in February 1994 on the Black Sabbath "Cross Purposes" tour at the State Theater in Detroit, MI. Their line-up at the time was Tony Iommi-lead guitar, Geezer Butler-Bass, Tony Martin-Vocals, Bobby Rondinelli-Drums, Geoff Nichols-Keyboards, with opening bands Morbid Angel & Motorhead. I'm not an Amp expert so I don't know the wattage, specifications, etc.. about what they were using. But basically Iommi had on his side of the stage, four double-stacked Laney amplifiers for his Lead guitar, on Geezers side he had four double-stacked Marshall amps for his Bass. And the keyboard player (who also did backing vocals, and on a few songs played a 2nd guitar) had some kind of Peavey amp.
The thing was, this theater was such a small place, it made it that much louder. I couldnt hear hardly anything for 3 days afterward, and you could feel the floor rumbling underneath you a lot of the time it was so loud.
*BUT- in 2007 I went to see Black Sabbath (or "Heaven & Hell") as they called the band at this point, since Ronnie James Dio was back singing in Black Sabbath again for the 3rd time at this point). In London, Ontario Canada at the John Labatte Arena. Their Line-up at this time was: Tony Iommi-lead guitar, Geezer Butler-Bass, Ronnie James Dio-vocals, and Vinnie Appice-Drums; and opening bands were: Down & Megadeth. The problem at their concert this time, was that it was in such a huge arena this time, the sound wasn't even close to being as loud as when I saw them at the extremely small State Theater concert
hall in Detroit in 1994. They used the exact same kind and number of amplifiers as they did at the Detroit concert, Four stacks of Laneys on Iommi's side, and four stacks of Marshalls on Geezers side. But being in such a huge arena this time, I think they should have added some extra amplifiers. Granted, I was on the complete opposite end of the arena from the stage this time, While at their "Cross Purposes" tour in Detroit I was only about 25 feet from the stage.
Amps don't necessarily get louder the more you turn them up. They have a thing I know as headroom, where after a point they just won't get louder. CSG Guitars has a great video on how this works. Its the reason I think (short of the phone not being able to go above 112) the meter is peaking.
Is it loud enough to practice in a band? I want to get a Marshall and send one near my used guitar store for cheap but don’t want to waste the money if it isn’t loud enough, I plan on getting the half stack version
@@Crash.7434 If you have a marshall half stack you will prolly be the loudest guy in the room. Unless you're playing with Lemmy or something...
@@unclejj13er75 you are correct. I got one and it is super loud.
@@Crash.7434 I got a 50 watt and that thing shakes the walls. Plenty of power to play with drums and bass.
@@unclejj13er75 thank you, I got mine recently and you are correct, it’s a half stack and I never have to go above volume 5 ever my old half stack I had to go up to volume 6-7 but it was solid state which I heard aren’t as loud
Marshall sounds absolutely awesome 😎 🤘🏻
I've had one of these amps for the last 22 years. I don't know what I was thinking...too loud and powerful for my needs. It's been sitting in my basement forever with little use so it still looks almost brand new. I use mostly combo amps these days.
I've been thinking about selling it for years but never seem to go through with it...I think I just like to look at it when I'm down there...like an art piece or something lol.
As long as you get a kick out of an object it's OK for you to keep it . I'd rather have a Marshall stack than any antique
Have you ever tried using an attenuater??
I would LOVE to buy that from you! I had a JCM2000 DSL100 with both, the A & B 1960 cabs, but I ended up losing them because of a... woman
@@rockinguitarist1 Part of the reason I should be selling it is because of a woman too lol. As I've bought other amps along the way, I keep telling my wife that I'm selling the Marshall to justify buying the other amps.
Do you happen to be located in the NY/NJ area? I would consider selling it to you..
@@richardchorley1593 Very good point Richard. That's the main reason I've kept it this long. It's reached a certain "antique" status where it's just cool to look at...kinda like a cool piece of art. Doesn't really take up that much space either.
I used a Plexi setup back in the late 70's. My right ear is is still ringing !
I had a JMP 50W head going through a 2 x 12" cab when I was young and I would run it at 0.5 for a comfortable level to play with the band. After a while, I switched to setting it at 2 and turning the guitar volume knob down. These Marshalls are insanely loud.
Similar story here... In the early 2000s friend sold 16yr old me a '77 mk2 50w JMP head for... £175. I spent the rest of my savings on a 1960a cab and practically rode that thing around the home counties and it was the BEST.
interesting video. glad you did the outside measurement . looking forward to seeing the final result.
I'm a retired audio tech and I've fixed and measured a few Marshall amps. my audio power meter tops out at 100 watts and all Marshalls were able to take it past full scale (so let's say 105 W or so) no F amps ever made it close . 85W being the best. but of course the dB difference is insignificant.
i did a video measuring the boss katana in here somewhere. it talks about dB a bit.
good to see you are now getting lots of views and likes.
thanks so much
Cool and great fun. Looking forward to the next/completed video. Thanks guys.
In 2019 after 8 months of sleep deprivation in an apartment I decided to shake the whole building with extreme Bass & Power Chord treatments. Plucking 5-6 string open with a whammy bar making warplanes sound. I had model airplanes doing 360s 20 feet away from the cabinet. I got evicted because I had extreme loud 200 db blows out your ears I was so angry everyone keeping me up 8 months I got evicted for that type of noise retaliation. I will Never forget that concert. This video was great.
Keep in mind that this is not for home use. NO HOME USE. This is a beast for war and we all can see that it is able to do!!!
A beast for war,lol.
Nice
nah its perfect for a 1 bedroom apartment
Hi guys, I downloaded your Studio Rats ‘80’s patch off Tone Cloud today and it sounds great! Started playing EVH with that patch and it sounded killer. Weirdly, started playing a couple Cars songs and even THEY sounded great. It does what it says!
Man my spark quit working I wish it was still doing more than being an overpriced paper weight!!
@@joshshannon knock on wood mine has been reliable so far.
The sound of the 70s n 80s...we loved playing that loud...I used two!!
Back in the late 90s I borrowed a dB-measuring device (what ever it is called by professionals ;-)), turned up my JCM900 100W half stack and reached 126 dB at max. Loud enough to kill a candle.
That’s a proper reading as my mk3 900 50 watter got to 122db and the 100 watters are suppose to be a few db more. It’s great fun trying it 😎
I recently picked up a Stereo EL 34 100/100. Ran the power amp at 100 percent & JMP-1 at 5 or 7 into 2 quads, and walked outside my house with a wireless system just to hear what the neighbours were listening to. It was at this point I realised I will need to practice more or get better lessons. My poor neighbours. 🤣🤣 The ground was shaking & so were the cats! (Don't worry I had them locked in the front room at the other end of the house.)
Can't tell you how many gigs I've played in tiny bars and Cat's still haul this setup in then can barely turn it up . I get it, own one myself but for gigs my Fender Reverb Deluxe is more than enough . And I'm all about the "One Trip" motto. I want to haul ALL my gear in just one trip from the car to the venue. To each their own though , these are classics for a reason . It's great feeling to stand in front of one and feel it thump right through your chest
I have an ‘87 JCM800 100 watt. But my ‘74 Bassman 50 will always be my go to amp. No matter what else I try the Fender always comes out on top. Perfect for any size gig.
I'm a total Marshall fan but my old mesa boogie triple rectifier would shatter the concrete blocks i mean that amp was louder than any other I have came in contact with. 🎸
I think these amps sound noticeably louder to modern guitarists simply because we are used to smaller more controllable amps, not many of us have the space nor the kind of shows that would need a stack bringing the volume, winding up a stack is brilliant fun though and I recommend it if you haven't had the chance, almost every local show I have played has the usual deluxe reverbs and ac30s but even then they have a ton of volume behind them, if I could transport a stack and use it to its full potential I absolutely would though.
Is it loud enough to practice in a band? I want to get a Marshall and send one near my used guitar store for cheap but don’t want to waste the money if it isn’t loud enough, I plan on getting the half stack version
I think minimum 15 watt competes with a drummer but only if you want to play dirty all the time. If you want loud clean you need 100 watts, maybe 50 watt but depends on the model.
@@ARONHALLAM I never heard a 15watt keep up with a drummer.
I want to see those tubes GLOW!! I had a 120w all-tube Bugera combo amp that I sold before I ever got to experiment with it like these guys are doing.
Excellent progress on the build, dwarfs the old place! 😲 Very early gig of mine, many, many years ago - Dick Dale - 2x 2203 JCM800 heads pegged w' a 1960A cab for each. Cabs at the back of the stage, turned to point at the wall in a 400-500 capacity room. Knock the wind out of you & then some......
Whoa whoa whoa, Dick Dale? The surf guitar guy?
You guys ought to do this for other classic British amps also. Like for example, one of the few shows I ever wore ear protection to see was Saxon who I think were running all Laney amps at the time. That show was so loud I was more feeling the music through my entire skeleton than actually “hearing” it 😂 (Those guys were very cool after the show, too, they took a lot of time to meet the fans, shake hands & sign autographs and all)
I tried a Laney 100 watt 1/2 stack at full tilt & it was lovely but it wasn't a legendary Marshall
How about a VOX Super Beatle
I've been in metal for 44 years and have spent the last 20 in death metal bands. And to this day, Saxon in 84' was by far the loudest sound I've ever experienced. Or ever will again :)
@@reverendtos4271 So Rev, I am absolutely NOT a pure “metal” guy (folk/country/rock for me) but I appreciate good musicianship across genres. Saxon was REALLY GREAT to see, way outside my “zone”; but everybody who plays should absolutely go see people who play and write & perform different styles of music and learn from what those people do and do not do.
It’s good for the human brain to get outside your little “comfort zone” occasionally.
@@brucemorris3830 Absolutely! I play in a Satanic Death Metal band, but also love Light Opera, 70's Prog Rock, Steeleye Span and The Bill Evans Trio. I shudder to think of a life listening to only one thing \m/
Brilliant chaps. You obviously had a blast. Fascinating episode.
This is a freaking beast of an amp!!!
It would have been interesting to hear the clean channel cranked and how long it stayed clean for to compare... with the ultra gain channel it just sounded like you were piling on more clipping and compression.
A band that I was in, the guitar players each had a PEAVEY 4x12 with a horn. Great days.
My boss and I cranked up my JCM900 100W half stack at our company's loading dock on a Saturday. I'll never forget that.
Nice one
Really enjoyed that 🙂
The type of analytical thing I would do just to see.
It’s also great as it gives folk thinking of building a non sound proof man cave in the garden an idea of what they can get away with without upsetting the neighbours
It should put out 123 dB with two cabs. 112 doesn't seem right, unless the amp is faulty. I noticed some hum.
61 yr old pro player here. I still use 2 blue voodoo cabs w/vintage 30s and a 71 super lead. can't have them behind you anymore and crank them like back in the day. so I side shoot them. NOTHING LIKE FEELING THE POWER!!! bass player side shoots 2 4x10s. we can get away with it cause the singer uses in ears. I go HYSTERICAL when people sit in on my rig. watching them try to control it is always fun.
I have this amp and I love it! but I think you can get a couple more decibels out actually with the clean switch because the Distortion is clipping.
I had JCM 900 that sounded amazing, had to sell it because it only did at high volumes, which I can't do home. New Katana II can be dialed pretty close to this (I know, it will never be like real tubes) but my wife hasn't kicked me out of the house so, that'll do
Katana has a headphone jack and online settings also. Selling mine though- just got a FM9.
@@MOAB-UT Great tool. Fractal effin sounds good. Too many possibiltys for me hihi, but one can use it in a simple way as well i suppose. I have tried the FM3 trough very good active studio speakers at a music store. Blowed me away, such quality sounds. I dont think many could tell the difference in a blind test, and all the great fx. I hope you will be more than pleased :)
@@svenzia Agreed. FM9 is the one to get right now- top of the heap. Better be for $1800, but a value when you consider all the gear it virtually replaces. You are 100% right that in the mix, you would never tell amp from the FM9. The tones are clear, consistent and the effects are next level. It's essentially the floor version of their AFXIII- which, with pedals will run close to $3k. If it's good enough for Metallica, Def Leppard, John Mayer, Joe Satriani, etc., then it is good enough for me. I mostly play to my dog. Wife leaves the room every time...wasn't like that 20 years ago! It's ironic because I play far better today.
How loud is a Marshall HALF stack? Not nearly as loud as the multiple Marshall FULL stacks I heard at all the concerts I went to in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Nothing will ever replaced those Marshall walls of sound. Also, nothing will ever replace my hearing loss. Lol! Every guitarist should experience playing in front of a cranked Marshall FULL stack. It’s a feeling of a lifetime that I will never forget. I used to play gigs with a band that used three Marshall FULL stacks. You could feel the power even from backstage. Amazing! Great video by the way. Liked and subscribed!
That is a really nice Amp and Speaker combo . I would love to have some thing like that !
for those that are interested it other marshall levels, i have a plexi 100w slp. a 1959 cicuit. through 2 12" speaker ( a quarter stack) on a proper db meter it reads 123 db 6 feet away.
i put it through a rivera rockcrusher attenuator most of the time. let me say you need a good attenuator to pull 120 db down to 90 db and withstand the heat load.
Just think….EVH used to have his Marshalls cranked every time in the early days in small clubs and the backyard parties. No earplugs in those days. What does it take to blow a Celestion speaker? What a score on this amp and cab James.
STILL THE BEST !!! The "Guv'nor'S " legacy lives on!
I’m still able to take 2 100w Marshall jubilees out to shows and can usually have em on 6/7 vol - outdoor shows - truly blessed I’m not in a band that I have to be wired direct to PA
Not sure but I think this qualifies as half stack. A full stack would be two cabs with one head.
I figure the phone call went something like this “Hey Paul, the walls and roof are done, you need to come over, I have to show you something!” - “I don’t have time rn, I’m recording” - “I bought a 100W Marshall, wanna try it?” - “I’m on my way” …
Regardless of anything, great playing and tone out of the tele. Well Done!!!
Great fun, lads - well done. Be VERY interesting to see the non-scientific but thats not the bloomin point difference once the internals are finished. Lovely video to kick Friday off - thanks.
Do the same test with a Hiwatt DR103! I'd love to see how they compare in volume.
Seconded! But with them being Hiwatts, they won't distort so much as a Marshall, right?
hiwatt are downright painful. love em
@@yannyloyer7177 Speaking from experience?
@@andriealinsangao613 yes sir. had one years ago. regret selling
@@yannyloyer7177 Ouch!
I am sure I heard somewhere that at stadium gigs most of the Marshall stacks we for effect and they only used one of them!
Always proper fun diming a Marshall. Might want to have the checked over by a tech. A healthy 100 watter puts out more than 112 😊 my 76’ superlead running 2 el34’s through an open back cab with 97 db speaker peaks at 119 and my 100 watt 6100 peaks at 121. Looking forward to seeing how the new place turns out 👍🏼
Cheers for having a 6100
That's why you never run a single 412 with greenbacks with a marshall dimed
@@0megalul309 That’s exactly what I was thinking! That’s why they made the stack!
Looks like that meter has a max cap at 112db
@@0megalul309why?
I remember first and last concert of Yngwie Malmsteem in Poland. in well proof, small concrrt hall in Katowice (now it is Miasto Ogrodów). Hall was prepared for orchestral playing or theater... But there was a lot of YJM Marshalls Everywhere. It was monster sound. Tons of Decibels. i did not hear for 1 hour. after.
I had one of those. The green channel was excellent dimed in crunch mode with a boost in front. The Ultra channel was just okay to me. Too fizzy and had some strange EQ sound I could never EQ out to my liking. This experiment would be fun with a healthy Super Lead.
This is not about the 100 watt Marshall but when I was 20 I had this 300 watt Peavey Musician series amplifier, 400 watt Peavey PA with feedback sweeps. Another friend had an Acoustic 270 and various other equipment. My PA was turned as loud as you could get it without steady feedback in a 8 x 16 foot room drums and everything crammed into it and you could barely hear the voices over the amps. For some crazy reason we wanted it as loud as we could stand it... this was back in the mid-70's my ears rang for 3 days after that session. I've regained my hearing since then and found out most of the time these days the big amps are mostly for show and that the volume on the stage isn't that bad but the people in front of the mains wouldn't know that!! I went to a concert once that they had the mains so loud that you couldn't really hear the music, it all turned to noise. I tried recording a little of it on my phone but it overwhelmed the circuits and all you got was distorted version of the songs they were playing. Friend of mine has that particular amp and most the time where he plays since he didn't have a brake he had to keep the volume under 1 at most of his gigs because they are just that loud. I have a Marshall MG100HDFX and it's no where near as loud as that beast!
Thats a really good looking combo right there. Marshall amplified Telecaster ain't sweeter than that
Low output guitar High output Amp 💣💥 Love my two DSL-100's driven by a Rockman X-100 Stereo !
Playing my 100 Watt Marshall 2210 (1986 made), the sweet spot indeed is at about 11 o'clock on the master volume, too.
Once you have one of these beasts it's a lifer. I use the 1960 Vintage cab with it.
Do this with a 2204 or 4010 50 watt, the ones I’ve had, the master from 7 to 10 literally doubled in volume, like a rabid dog.
This amp sounds really good, is it an early UK made DSL? Also, would you know which speakers are in the cabinet(65,70,75’s?)
Omg you said you were gonna do this on Wednesday night & you have
To think I used to gig regularly for DECADES with EVH5150 and cab.... no earplugs... I now struggle at times with some of the high mid frequencies in one ear when mixing 😢
It's interesting. I would never own one again these days. The last 100 watt Marshall I had was about 20 years. There's just no need for me to have one these days. But that really goes for a 100 watt of any amp. The volume is just way more than you really need in playing out these days and there not what I would practice with. Even with a load box, as it's just using up tubes when I don't need to. As I sit here watching videos while practicing into my Fractal FM3 into a ISP active guitar wedge. Even the Mesa Mark V 25 I have sitting next to it, I never max out.
Also you should measurr on axis of loudspeakers and using certified microphone or.jig.
Well, I’m looking forward to the finished build.
I can only get mine at 1/3 volume for a few minutes in my house before my ears start hurting. That hard surface room has got to be insanely loud.
The threshold of pain is considered 120dB+. There's a video on TH-cam of a Motorhead concert measuring between 115-120dB.
saw dinosaur jr the other week and they had 6 of these all with pre amps and they were mic’d up to the stage speakers! and that was just for the guitarist. my ears were ringing for a good 5-6 days
You should do a ampeg SVT 300 with the eight 10” cabinet Holyshnikies !
How accurate is that phone app?
Awesome. That tele sounds so FRIGGIN SWEEET through the Marshall. WOW. What effects did ya use?
That's a beefy tone right there! Just the amp itself!
I like how he kinda stood back and reached to turn it up, like he was afraid to get close to it.
I cranked a JCM800 full stack once and stood right in front of it, hit a chord and the air pressure literally took my breath away, epic sound, I won't ever be doing that again though, it was insanely loud!
Lucky you didn't hurt your ears.
@@MOAB-UT I'm pretty tall so my head was above the speakers otherwise I would have! I only did once 😀
@@MattsGAP Being tall means next to nothing. You might have shaved off 1dB. I am glad you survived. I was exposed to a single loud sound and my ear has been ringing every day and night ever since. That was over 10 years ago. Be careful. Be very careful.
@@MOAB-UT sound advice, I was literally facing it with my head over the top, and in a big room, so the noise went the other way. This was nearly 20 years ago... I learned my lesson😀. I have tinnitus too, from standing next to drummers mainly!!
@@MattsGAP Too bad about your tinnitus. Do you find stress makes it louder? I do. Some days are better than others though. When I feel good, I tend to play my guitar louder and it comes right back. It's manageable but something I have to pay close attention to.
I think is this DSL100 have a problems. Because normal DSL 100, put in1960AV, with new tubes, have 124-126 dB measuring in 1m.
Did you ever do a follow up video to this?
Your meter had 112Max in the bottom right, was that the maximum measured, or the meters maximum? If the latter, a real DB meter would be a better choice, and so far just about every studio I have been to had one, as well as every sound guy at a venue because of volume threshold laws.
Sounds amazing! This video convinced me to purchase one Saturday. Lol. What were the EQ settings fellas? I’m going to recreate this video.
Nice one Matt. Eq was at 12
Back in the early 80's when we played bars we ran our Marshalls on 10 and turned the 4/12 cabinets backwards
Subscribed a couple of days ago. This video confirms it was a good choice! 😂
1959SLP next???
I think the speakers can only get so loud then you'd have to add more to be louder? Or bigger size? The speakers would probably tear if it went over 112?
would it be more Db if it was a full stack with two 4x12s? (more testing :P)
Still missing my then new Marshall Silver Jubilee stack. Just 50 watts, but what a growler it was.
It muds out massively at full volume. If you want to "hear" the power tubes, turn up the volume, dial back the gain. If you want saturation, turn up the gain, keep the volume where it sounds best, and add an OD if you need even more "push."
Very underrated, good get. In 2002 from Musician's Friend I bought a TSL60 + 1960A 4x12 + 2002 Les Paul Standard + Marshall 2x12 cab loaded with a V30 and a Heritage 12. The salesman said "if you're not playing stadiums you want the TSL60 head." Versatile with very good clean sound. Still have them along with a Matchless Lightning. The TSL came from Marshall loaded with the fine =C= Svetlana EL34's and I wouldn't use anything else, I've tried.
I graduated that year. I had a 02 Gothic Explorer I miss dearly. How'r those v30 holding up?
I got a Harley Benton cab with v30's. Not happy with the low end sound. Speakers probably need broken in. Running a Dsl20hr into it.
@@J_Braz_ Part of the problem might be the “small” cab, there’s nothing quite like a 4x12!
About twenty years ago I was a sit in guitar tech for a buddy of mine. They were playing an outdoor venue in front of about 60K people. My buddy played a Les Paul custom into a Marshall JCM800 and two 4x12’s. During sound check with cranked it thinking if anywhere… Sound guy came over the PA and was like, hey Van Halen you wanna be in the PA or not?
That amp has a great clean channel. I would have thought it would get up to 120db fully cranked.
Now do a Boss Katana head on that same cab in that same room! See if it can get close to that JCM!
Your not gong to get 120db from where he is standing. Should get 125 at the cone. DB's fall off very fast with distance.
SPL is supposed to be measured at 1M from the center. Also the phone's mic has limitations. I would expect 123db+ on a meter designed for this sort of application. I use a calibrated add on microphone that plugs into the phones jack.
A Katana is bad enough at 90 dB, so don´t do that 🙂
@ghost mall Because you don't know how to use it.
@ghost mall Yeah, sure. Whatever you say.
I have an '80s Marshall JCM 800 100 watt half-stack. It's so loud, it ridiculous!
🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸 sounds great!💪🏻💪🏻
The loudest Marshall is a 70s jmp100 with a drake transformer with kt88s.
A matamp 200 watt "green" is the loudest I ever heard.
That is terrifying, i'm only wearing headphones and i can just tell that thing is ungodly loud
Bet the neighbors were “all in” during the filming of this video!
I like that JCM900's go up to 20 (on the gain knob at least 😆)
Vox AC30 is also loud, a lot has to do with the speakers efficiency as to how loud the amp gets
AC30 will get you to roughly 115 dB a meter in front of the speaker. 2-3 dB more when you run it at full tilt. Enough so that it was painful to be in the same room with good earplugs on when we tried it some 20 years ago.
The threshold of discomfort is approximately 110 db, actual pain happens closer to 130 db. Nit picking for sure but a cranked Marshall is definitely loud but not painful. A 747 at takeoff can be extremely loud at levels approaching 140 db, obviously the volume is based on distance and which engine the plane is equipped with.
the guitar sounds great. which Fender Telecaster is this?
are the pickups original?
thanks
Is a 60th Anniversary limited edition USA. All stock.