I am considering using this joint for some Beads Of Courage boxes. This tutorial and the previous one have been very informative. I am now certain that this will be the joinery I will use for my boxes. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.
An entertaining and truly INFORMATIVE set of videos, Mr. Henry! You have inspired me to integrate the use of bird-mouth joinery into the column of a new shop stool I'm designing. Never realized that this technique could be so versatile. Thanks, and please..... keep these informative videos coming!
Really enjoyed your video. Interesting subject and excellent presentation. Hope you are able to show more possibilities with this technique. Your vases look amazing.
Not a problem, You made it look very easy I thought it was well above my skill set. But I think now I seen how it's done I will be flying. I see many opportunities to use this construction process with. Best thing is it looks very pretty and elegant. what type's of wood are good to use to get interesting grain's? Many thanks for the videos
Your question is best answered by asking you what you like. However, to answer your question, in my projects I tend to choose contrasting light and dark woods; a favorite pair of readily available woods is walnut and maple. In my demo videos I often use redwood as the darker contrast wood (it's very inexpensive locally), but don't recommend it for projects because it is very soft. Other common, useful, light-colored woods are birch and ash, which can be coupled with mahogany, for example. If you are fortunate enough to have a hardwood dealer nearby, its a lot of fun to go there and just browse through what they have to offer. Of course, it is not necessary to use more than one wood; projects from a single wood species might look best for your work. In your case, that's probably where I would start.
I bought a set of bird mouth bits, from Amazon,3bits without any markings. How do I tell which is witch? I measured the top cutter on each. 3/4” ,7/8” and 1”. Thank you. Patrick Manning, Gibraltar Mich.
JUST GREAT,wish I could get a finish like you have on the napkin holder,might be able to sell some at our village fete in summer,keep them coming much appreciated, MAC,
Ludohund - Sorry to be so late with a reply; out of town for a month. Thank you very much for your kind words! I'm flattered that a woodworker (a boat-builder from Denmark, no less!) who already knows about these router bits would take the time to comment. If my videos are clear, it is because I react badly to the huge number of woodworking videos out there that are so incredibly unclear!
Hi Mr. Henry. Thanks for the great videos. I ordered the 3 pack of BMJ bits. the 3rd one is a 16 . would you consider doing a 16 sided tapered bowl? thanks
great presentation... keep it coming... i linked your first video of bird mouth bits to my group on facebook, it's a group of industrial design students in israel... and we think it's great...
Thanks, John! I don't have a lathe and haven't tried turning yet. However, a friend has used blanks I gave him, made via bird mouth joinery, and he is very happy with the results. It appears to be a quick and easy way to get multi-wood blanks useful for a variety of projects.
Hi Jason! If I understand the question correctly, 22 1/2 degrees would not give 6-sided shapes, which require 30-60-90 right triangle geometry. I would be doubtful that using this approach would give enough precision to yield the results that you want. Sorry to not be very helpful.
Francisco de Assis Francisco, obrigado por perguntar. Eu comprei o meu 8-laterais e 6 do lado fresas boca pássaro originalmente de Ferramentas Lee Valley (www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?c=&p=45160&cat=1,46168,46174) . No entanto, mais recentemente, uma variedade de fornecedores tornaram-se disponíveis ea maioria deles pode ser acessado a partir de Amazon(www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=node%3D328182011&field-keywords=bird+mouth+router+bits). Espero que você tente esta técnica; é um monte de diversão! Francisco, thanks for asking. I bought my 8-side and 6-side bird mouth router bits originally from Lee Valley Tools (www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?c=&p=45160&cat=1,46168,46174). However, more recently a variety of suppliers have become available and most of them can be accessed from Amazon (www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=node%3D328182011&field-keywords=bird+mouth+router+bits). I hope that you try this technique; it is a lot of fun!
Hi jerryearle! Cutting tapered staves takes some extra work. I draw them on the stock, rough-cut them on the bandsaw and use a shop-made jig with a flush trim bit on my router table for edge smoothing and to ensure that all have the same taper angle. Most woodworkers would cut them on the tablesaw (I don't have one; no room!) using a sled with appropriate spacer blocks. Someday I hope to do a video on this.
Hi Tim! I would go to Amazon and search on "bird mouth router bits." You'll have a choice of several manufacturers. Good luck with them! You'll have a lot of fun!
Hi Garry! Yes, BMJ can be used for tapered vessels, but this can present problems. I recently uploaded a video showing the build for a 12-sided decorative bowl on which you made a nice comment; this is an example of using staves with a small amount of taper, which doesn't cause any difficulties. However, increasing the taper results in increasingly poor, unacceptable, BMJ joints. The poor fit can be corrected; I'm almost finished with a video describing how to do this. Tapered vessels can also be constructed by playing with the number of sides, as described in the instruction document for BMJ bits available from Lee Valley Tools.
I am considering using this joint for some Beads Of Courage boxes. This tutorial and the previous one have been very informative. I am now certain that this will be the joinery I will use for my boxes. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.
Those vases are just gorgeous!
Thanks, David! I value your kind comment.
An entertaining and truly INFORMATIVE set of videos, Mr. Henry!
You have inspired me to integrate the use of bird-mouth joinery into the column of a new shop stool I'm designing.
Never realized that this technique could be so versatile.
Thanks, and please..... keep these informative videos coming!
Really enjoyed your video. Interesting subject and excellent presentation. Hope you are able to show more possibilities with this technique. Your vases look amazing.
Quite a inspirational video, I can see me making a lot of cases for electronics that are ugly. Many thanks
Thanks, Vasili! I'm delighted that you found my video inspirational! I hope that your electronics boxes look great!
Not a problem, You made it look very easy I thought it was well above my skill set. But I think now I seen how it's done I will be flying. I see many opportunities to use this construction process with. Best thing is it looks very pretty and elegant. what type's of wood are good to use to get interesting grain's? Many thanks for the videos
Your question is best answered by asking you what you like. However, to answer your question, in my projects I tend to choose contrasting light and dark woods; a favorite pair of readily available woods is walnut and maple. In my demo videos I often use redwood as the darker contrast wood (it's very inexpensive locally), but don't recommend it for projects because it is very soft. Other common, useful, light-colored woods are birch and ash, which can be coupled with mahogany, for example. If you are fortunate enough to have a hardwood dealer nearby, its a lot of fun to go there and just browse through what they have to offer. Of course, it is not necessary to use more than one wood; projects from a single wood species might look best for your work. In your case, that's probably where I would start.
I bought a set of bird mouth bits, from Amazon,3bits without any markings. How do I tell which is witch? I measured the top cutter on each. 3/4” ,7/8” and 1”. Thank you. Patrick Manning, Gibraltar Mich.
Love your videos. Where do you get the copper sleeves for the vases? Thanks.
JUST GREAT,wish I could get a finish like you have on the napkin holder,might be able to sell some at our village fete in summer,keep them coming much appreciated, MAC,
Very impressive and beautiful work. A high mark to aim for.
Jack Sprat Many thanks, Jack!
Thanks! I have plans to describe some of my projects in detail in the future, but the best-laid plans . . . .
Ludohund - Sorry to be so late with a reply; out of town for a month. Thank you very much for your kind words! I'm flattered that a woodworker (a boat-builder from Denmark, no less!) who already knows about these router bits would take the time to comment. If my videos are clear, it is because I react badly to the huge number of woodworking videos out there that are so incredibly unclear!
Hi Mr. Henry. Thanks for the great videos. I ordered the 3 pack of BMJ bits. the 3rd one is a 16 . would you consider doing a 16 sided tapered bowl? thanks
great presentation... keep it coming... i linked your first video of bird mouth bits to my group on facebook, it's a group of industrial design students in israel... and we think it's great...
Thanks - Glad you enjoyed it!
those vases are cool
Thanks, Martin!
Thanks! I enjoy this stuff!
Very nice David, have you used this joinery for wood turning bowls?
Thanks, John! I don't have a lathe and haven't tried turning yet. However, a friend has used blanks I gave him, made via bird mouth joinery, and he is very happy with the results. It appears to be a quick and easy way to get multi-wood blanks useful for a variety of projects.
Thanks David, keep me posted on your friend, I would love seeing his work!
What's the angle this can be done with a regular router bit with the router set to the correct angle is it 22 1/2
Hi Jason! If I understand the question correctly, 22 1/2 degrees would not give 6-sided shapes, which require 30-60-90 right triangle geometry. I would be doubtful that using this approach would give enough precision to yield the results that you want. Sorry to not be very helpful.
А где купить такие фрезы
Caro David poderia me informar o link onde comprar as fresas 8-SIDE 6-SIDE? Obrigado.
Francisco de Assis
Francisco, obrigado por perguntar. Eu comprei o meu 8-laterais e 6 do lado fresas boca pássaro originalmente de Ferramentas Lee Valley (www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?c=&p=45160&cat=1,46168,46174) . No entanto, mais recentemente, uma variedade de fornecedores tornaram-se disponíveis ea maioria deles pode ser acessado a partir de Amazon(www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=node%3D328182011&field-keywords=bird+mouth+router+bits). Espero que você tente esta técnica; é um monte de diversão!
Francisco, thanks for asking. I bought my 8-side and 6-side bird mouth
router bits originally from Lee Valley Tools
(www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?c=&p=45160&cat=1,46168,46174).
However, more recently a variety of suppliers have become available and
most of them can be accessed from Amazon
(www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=node%3D328182011&field-keywords=bird+mouth+router+bits).
I hope that you try this technique; it is a lot of fun!
sÓ TRABALHO LINDO
How do U cut staves at an aggle? ie. 1/2" taper from top to bottom)
Hi jerryearle! Cutting tapered staves takes some extra work. I draw them on the stock, rough-cut them on the bandsaw and use a shop-made jig with a flush trim bit on my router table for edge smoothing and to ensure that all have the same taper angle. Most woodworkers would cut them on the tablesaw (I don't have one; no room!) using a sled with appropriate spacer blocks. Someday I hope to do a video on this.
where can one get a full set of bits
Hi Tim! I would go to Amazon and search on "bird mouth router bits." You'll have a choice of several manufacturers. Good luck with them! You'll have a lot of fun!
Can you do a " Tapered " vessel ?
Hi Garry! Yes, BMJ can be used for tapered vessels, but this can present problems. I recently uploaded a video showing the build for a 12-sided decorative bowl on which you made a nice comment; this is an example of using staves with a small amount of taper, which doesn't cause any difficulties. However, increasing the taper results in increasingly poor, unacceptable, BMJ joints. The poor fit can be corrected; I'm almost finished with a video describing how to do this. Tapered vessels can also be constructed by playing with the number of sides, as described in the instruction document for BMJ bits available from Lee Valley Tools.