🎵 MAJOR organ update | FIRST LOOK | It looks AMAZING!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- I'm now able to bring you the first MAJOR update to the new organ!!
This features pictures sent to me by Renatus throughout the entire process, and also includes videos of the organ being built by hand taken by me only this week!
I show you the stops, the pedalboard, the console as well as footage of the UHT keyboards being configured by UHT themselves!!
I'll hopefully bring you the next major update in November.
00:00 | Introduction
01:13 | Original Computer Designs
01:57 | Early Build Progress Pictures
09:56 | The Stops (and how we'll change them)
13:30 | The Keyboards (UHT)
15:28 | Current Build State (with pictures and videos)
19:49 | Next Steps
What an incredible journey this has been, and continues to be!
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I'm excited for you and Caroline!
I am looking forward to seeing the organ!!! Congratulations Richard and Caroline!!!!
Thanks for the update. Very interesting to see all aspects of the console.
Wonderful. So exciting!
Thanks for the update. Very interesting. Excited for you and BIS community.
Can't wait for this!
Beautiful!
Awesome thanks for the update
Fascinating to see. There are so many parts of the organ I know little about. The more I find out the more I love it. Good luck with the continuing progress of your new organ and I cannot wait to hear it played under your expert hands and fingers....and feet of course!
It's great to see a master craftsman at work. This console is going to be a great work of art. I expect the woodwork will outlast the electronics and you'll be able to revitalize it as new technology becomes available. Congratulations on the choices you have made for this wonderful project! I'm looking forward to the first concert/recital to be played on it.
BEAUTY IN SOUND, really like that curved computer screen! What they're doing is that they're testing the key action.
The organ looks fabulous already, even as a work in progress! 😍 Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Me too!
Great 👍
Now that looks like it will become the rolls royce of homeorgans! Congratulations to that console! :D I'm sure the feeling of playing on that instrument will be marvelous :D
That’s the plan! If I’m going to invite world-class organists to play it then I need to have a world-class organ 👍
You must feel like a kid awaiting Christmas Morning! Quite the Instrument in the works!
Richard - Fantastic work my friend. The standard and content of your video is as good as, No .. Far superior than a BBC TV documentary. You must be so excited to see the dream coming to life and I can't wait to see and hear you play the new instrument. Thank you for sharing the journey with us.
Thanks Richard. The organ building video (and chat) was as usually most excellent.
It is like all of us at BiS are getting an amazing present for this Christmas Season.
Amusingly, my computer "spelling-checker" almost spelled the word "Christmas" as "Masochist". Hee hee.
The large piece of wood that separates the left stop jamb from the right is referred to as the "key desk." At least that's the common name used in Canada.
In a later clip they are adjusting the tracker touch keyboard with weights both for the easy travel before the key sounds half-way down in its travel and the beginning of contact closing, making the note sound. If they aren't all the same weight it will affect your playing. If they aren't to specification, others will find it weird when they play it. This is not to say that you can't have it set for a higher force for instance if you have just come from a church with an antique Dutch tracker organ and find your new keyboards to have a light touch. Rather than adjusting the keyboards, practice more. You will become accustomed to the feel. Where is the covet emoticon when you need one, and does commandment #10 also apply to organ consoles? I'm happy to see that you didn't include cup holders for your coke which is not compatible with keyboards.
Looking fabulous. He is no joiner, he is a proper cabinet maker.
Am so thrilled and excited for you, what a wonderful dream project all coming together, I’d do the same but my wife unfortunately wouldn’t let me bring such a gorgeous piece of furniture home with me. I have to make do with my bedroom set up!!!!! Congratulations and BRAVO to you and family!! Thank you to for all the fabulous, out of this world organ playing, just magnificent!!! Adrian in Bermuda!!
Building bridges!! Such respect for tradition and craftsmanship - yet a keen eye to the future and innovation! I love the evolution of the stop design and cannot wait to see it in action. The inclusion of a discrete touch screen is a great idea - might be possible to dispense completely with other “in the music room”’ controls (as I muse about VNC-assisted setup and maintenance from the studio room 😉) - this is just THRILLING! Thank you for sharing with us and I am eagerly looking forward to this very special winter season of BIS! 🥰
Absolutely! I was very keen from the very outset that this is going to be a traditional console but at its heart is powered by something very modern. Ultimately though, even a modern H&H console like that of Canterbury Cathedral looks very traditional but is using the latest organ electronic technology. I’ll not be entirely sad to retire the cheap Chinese pedal switch that is now quite popular within the Hauptwerk community! Can’t wait for you to come and see it!
Richard, you must be beside yourself with excitement! I play 6 Hauptwerk organs on a console with moving drawknobs, and my biggest problem is trying to remember which stop I've assigned to what! Fascinating solution you have for that! You'll have a huge box of stems with all the organs you play!!
Then you and I are both having the exact same problem. My physical stops are fixed which means I have to squeeze my samples into an organ which is just too small. Playing organs like Gorlitz, Dudelange and Nancy is often painful because of this...
If you had been watching the appraisals of furniture on TV shows such as "The Antiques Roadshow," you would have been quite aware what a dovetail joint is.
I confess to having never watched The Antiques Roadshow, but I'm pleased that I now know what a dovetail joint is. I'm learning a lot about a whole multitude of things running BEAUTY IN SOUND! :)
Evening all from CapeTown🖐🖐🖐glad to see Gerda in town & hope u recovered well from yr treatment few days back?
Thanks to you Mr. Richard
Have you measured your doorways? I'm guessing that will be a very snug fit unless you have double doors. Looks amazing.
Thank heavens for double doors!
Dovetail wood joints were found in furniture placed in Egyptian tombs. One of the best and proper ways to connect wood without metal fasteners.
I didn’t know this until only recently. Fascinating! But of course, I’ve seen these kinds of joints before but never gave them a second thought. Now I’ll be forever pointing out dove tails!!
Astonished that you don’t know what a dovetail joint is. It’s basic school level woodwork. And it’s so well known it has entered into speech as an idiom e.g if something connects or integrates in an easy and seamless way, it is said ‘to dovetail’, e.g “the two sections of the programne dovetailed together really well.” or “Your schedule and mine are dovetailing on Tuesday, so lets have the meeting then.” etc.
Well, you learn something everyday... as they say! ;)
@@beautyinsound Quite! Sorry I read my post back and noticed it sounded a bit flippant. I didn't mean it that way. There's probably a load of things you know (and think is generally known) that I haven't a clue about!
I'm more of a woodworker than a musician and I am impressed by the craftsmanship that is going into the console. BTW, you'll probably find that your sock drawer is assembled with dovetail joints.
Haha - yes we need the optional extra sock drawer!!
@@beautyinsound LOL! You'll need some new colourful socks!!
As for floor speakers, it’ll depend on the context. If you just need them for reference when practicing, then a few studio monitors with 8 inch drivers should do the trick.(Adam Audio TV8/TV7 are pretty good) But if you want a multichannel speaker array that’s suitable for live performances, you’ll want to look at some more ambient full range home theater speakers. (Something closer to some DefTech BP9040s)
Ryan - I currently have 6 Adam F7s connected to the organ, and I'll be doing more live-live performances from next year. That is, with a live audience in the music room so I need to have good quality speakers just like those DefTech ones. Do you have the BP9040s, or have you heard them?
@@beautyinsound Sorry for the truant reply, I just now saw this. I'm sure you'll find this out for yourself since you're now getting DefTech speakers, but I've heard them used in professional digital organ installations (i.e Marshall & Ogletree) and have been very impressed. The reasons I recomended those speakers is because they were designed with Home Theater in mind, where you want the most accurate and comprehensive sound to fill as much space as possible. Four should be more than enough to fill your living room with high quality sound for a live audience. Another reason these are used with organ instalations is that their bipolar nature (Drivers firing sound from from both sides) kind of mimics the acoustic nature of a pipe, which predominantly releases sound from two places, the mouth and the opening of the body. Hope this clarifies a few things. :)
Very nice to see an amazing console in progress. I don't know the British guild standard, but I'm going to guess 29.5 inches D to D for pedalboard since no one else has made any guesses. Curious to hear more about your specific description of the ideal keyboard touch. Those springs looked to be parallel to the key sticks, but springs I've seen on some other older keyboards are mounted vertically on the ends of the keys. How does the touch differ? If there a 'giving way' as in a piano or perhaps tracker organ?
As for Ciphering -- that's the bane of all MIDI based instruments in my experience and can result from any glitch in the continuum, either from console or software. Would be interesting to know why that has popped up recently. Any updates to Hauptwerk immediately before it started? Or different sample set that overtaxed the system?
Anyway thanks for sharing. On my ToDo list is to build a Virtual Organ console, but I plan to make it as light and compact as possible for ease of moving. Organs can be real space and weight hogs!
Beautiful work. I simply love my UHT keyboards; they feel so classy, and very consistent. Interesting to see the video of them adjusting the "weight" of each key to get them nice and consistent. What are the naturals covered with?
They call it “mineral”, and the black notes are ebony - similar to the ones in the video I guess. Which ones are yours?
@@beautyinsound I opted for bone, which feels very nice indeed. Was warned it could potentially discolour a little over time, but wasn't too bothered about that, and it's actually been
fine so far.
The table is referred to as the: Keybed
Does your console use Hauptwerk's built-in combination action and stepper, or does it use a separate system similar to what would be used on a pipe organ console?
Great question. My organ is totally dependant upon Hauptwerk, including the Setter, General Cancel, Generals and Sequencer. All coupler stops and pistons are individually assigned within Hauptwerk as well which is a bit fiddly for Gt-Pd and Sw-Gt as there are three couplers for each of these where as Hauptwerk only allows for a Primary and Secondary input. Worked out a way round that though! 👌
Is the idea with the removable stop heads that you can have some spares enabling you to swap them around depending on the sample set in use?
Exactly that. There’s a stops video I did fairly recently (600 stops...) where I try to explain how I’ve chosen the stop names.
@@beautyinsound thanks Richard, I must have missed that one. I'll go and have a look!!
Hello Richard, thanks for this interesting post. A very good project. I'm thinking of installing a UHT keyboard as well. What is your recommendation for the "difficulty" (maybe not the right English word for it) of the keyboard (in grams). I also think that the keyboard is extremely important for good articulation, but also for good motivation and inspiration.
I’m not sure how to interpret ‘difficulty’ in this context? Do you mean the weight of the keys? I don’t know the answer unfortunately, but the good news about the UHTs are they are completely adjustable.
@@beautyinsound Thank you,yes I meant the weight of the keys, :)
Fine tuning of movement , and pressures.....as in resistance, balance and exact depth of motion of the manual keys.
What a great exposition. Thank you.
What is that beautiful timber in the console? Will it be stained and polished?
(I remember making dovetail joints at school in Geelong 70 years ago. Not as good as these!)
Best wishes for a most successful completion.
Thanks Bruce. Yes it’ll be stained and polished to a very similar colour of the York console (possibly a fraction lighter).
Question - Ages ago I saw an organ somewhere in Europe where the stops lit up. Has nobody come up with a system yet of having LED displays on the stops that change the name to match in the Hauptwerk divisions? Am I being a bit too advanced, technical or expensive??? It's looking brilliant though, I can't wait to hear it! I so would love one myself. Dread to think how much it is costing you??
Speaking as an American organist, it sounds like an interesting idea! I think the issue would be cost for sure, as well as size, LCD screens would need to be kind of big to be able to make the stop heads be readable. So cost and practicality.
@@tedbabbitt7108 Oled is the way to go with this
Excellent craftsmanship! By the way, what's the piece that's playing in the intro? (Around 0:50)?
It’s a performance of Widor’s 6th Organ Symphony I gave towards the end of July. It’s from the BIS Summer Organ Festival if you’d like to listen to it 😊
@@beautyinsound thanks Richard - I certainly will 😀
It's going to be gorgeous, and I'll bet not cheap! I'm curious about York Minster : I know the organ has had a big refurbishment, but has the console been refinished?
Your shots of the lower parts look perfect, with no scratches or blemishes at all!
Yes - the 2 consoles at York have both been refurbished. A point to note however is that the detached nave console is different to the upstairs screen console, and it's the screen console we're basing the BIS organ on. The pictures of the pedalboard in the video are of the newly refurbished screen console.
@@beautyinsound Thanks. I forgot that it has a nave console now; it's been too long since I was there!
Get a - and + for the Setzer on both sides of the Swell pedals...
15:45 Martin is using a plumb line to check horizontal alignment of pedalboard, not measuring distance to lower keyboard. Middle D over middle D, front of middle pedal sharps 240 - 270 mm back, on 3m and 4m consoles. Height to playing surface of lowest manual: 750 - 775 mm, typical height of a desk or table. Mind your knees on the drawer corners!
Almost... Martin is actually measuring the height between D and D. I know because about 3 seconds later I sat on the bench to see whether it felt right. The distance on this organ is 765mm which is H&H’s standard distance between D over D.
You’re on it! The corners of the drawers will be smooth for this very reason!
Are you talking from experience?
AGO specs would be 29.5 inches from lowest manual to pedal D2.
Just ran across this at random. Reminds me of a video of Flentrop's shop floor. One of my uncles was a Master cabinet maker. I recognize the fine level of skill going into the casework. (I can't resist saying too bad it won't be a pipe organ. Thats just a personal preference, not a criticism). Enjoy. You can channel Cameron Carpenter at his traveling organ! From Chicago, U.S.A
Thanks. If only I had space in my house for a pipe organ... still, for home-use I'm ecstatic about the possibilities that 'Hauptwerk' software can bring! Have you seen my other videos on my channel? There's a lot for you to enjoy :)
I have seen some Hauptwerk organ videos. Also, one of my favorite organists, Gert van Hoef, has a Content organ in his house. and has done livestreams, playing it and their biggest model. Theodore Roosevelt said "do what you can with what you have. where you are". I'll look for you playing the finished organ. From Chicago, U.S.A.
After Renatus assembles the console in the in shop, can it be disassembled into manageable pieces to that it can be shipped and reassembled in your house? Or is the console a single piece other than the pedal board?
Good question, and I think the answer is that it'll be one complete piece of furniture (as you say, apart from the pedal board and bench). The side panels are one long piece of oak so there'll be nowhere where it can be disassembled. It's going to heavy..... VERY heavy!!
Klipsch speakers are wonderful floor speakers
Thanks - I'll check them out!
Make sure you check the Klipsch Horns not regular ones: many have been used in auditoriums & other large spaces; they expensive but very good
Fantastic Richard. Which sample-set will get the call for the inaugural piece of music? Rotterdam?
Probably the surround version of Dudelange as that’s currently my favourite organ. Rotterdam will certainly be used, as will Gorlitz and Nancy. I cant wait to play this bigger sample sets without having to use Launchpads etc!! Is Rotterdam your favourite?
@@beautyinsound It is indeed. Perhaps I’m just patriotic, but living in Canada. Currently, I’m enjoying the organ videos, while only having a piano at home. Something, I’m hoping to change in the years to come (studied pipe organ in high school (30 years ago!).
I would certainly recommend MJ Acoustics speakers and subwoofer
they only make subs, so I think
Yes sorry you are quite right
@@carrington2158 its OK. I only know, as was thinking of getting one, but got a 12" (with a 12" passive radiator) instead, from Rel..... for a hi fi, not an organ
@@peterallison5021 I use an MJ Acoustic Subwoofer for my organ and it is really good
@@carrington2158 there are so many out there. I was recommended a BK, as they had organists use them too, in their organs, but as I am more a HI FI nerd now, I use the Rel for 2.1 and 5.1 music, (am less of an Organ anorak now, compared to when I was younger) :-)
Dove-tailing used to be the norm for all cabinetmaking work that involved joining sides. Curious about why you're getting a swell pedal on the solo organ rather than on the choir organ.
What do you mean about the swell pedal? The two pedals will be configurable within Hauptwerk to whichever enclosed division I choose. The swell is nearly always enclosed, so that’s one pedal. The solo is usually enclosed, and the choir is only sometimes enclosed. I had originally thought I’d have three pedals but in the end I’m happy with two.
What are the major organ digital builders there in the UK?
We build consoles like this for pipe organs, it can take up to a year.
10”-12” depending
I like your computer display. Can you share the make? Thanks.
This one: www.beetronics.co.uk/13-inch-touchscreen
What's the piece that's playing at 13:30?
The 3rd movement from Widor 6, taken from this complete performance: th-cam.com/video/QtybvLTpKS0/w-d-xo.html
@@richmcveigh Thank you very much! ;)
Great spec's on the subwoofer! Only 5000 GBP each.
They are very pricey, and luckily I found an ex-demo which made it a bit cheaper.
@@beautyinsound Not many subs out on the market that can handle 16Hz - being 32' low C. :)
Indeed! That’s why I chose this one, and it goes down to 15Hz meaning there’s plenty of bass space. It’s also a very nice piece of furniture with an external remote.
@@beautyinsound it's 6dB down at 15Hz, meaning only a quarter of the sound pressure compared with at, say 40Hz. So an equalization curve will need to be applied to flatten the response curve. That's true for any installation where accurate reproduction is required. That said, you may want a larger room for it and/or accoustics treatment of all the walls, and ceiling otherwise the room modes caused by reflections off of hard flat surfaces will negatively affect the result. You wouldn't regret adding good accoustic treatment.
Well the good news there is that phase 2 of the project is a new purpose-built music room, designed by specialists. That’s a couple of years off though, and with numerous more marathons!
Behringer TRUTH B2031A speakers
Are these the ones you have? Have you heard them?
I must say I'm a bit disappointed with the design shown at 5:30. There should be a fun design and perhaps color added to the organist's socks.
Ha! Be assured that the socks in reality will be much more colourful - it’s what you all expect! 😃
Will you sell me your old one??
Make me an offer 😉
@@beautyinsound does shipping to USA count ????
Weird design - no resting place for foot in the front. When organist is not playing pedals must hold his legs in the air. Very uncomfortable!
Resting place for feet are on the swell pedals and on the organ bench. Very comfortable!
@@beautyinsound I don't agree. Swell pedals have absolutely different purpose. They could be used as a support only when swells are closed. When they are open, they do not offer any support. The best support is a hard edge between tones 'B' and 'C' and 'E' and 'F'. From there is the best starting and orientation point of reaching pedals. I played on meny organs without proper support and always it was a bad experience. Only poor teachers can suggest holding legs back on organ bench :)
I'm sure that many organists would appreciate moving pistons from places which I was mentioning and making right resting-support place for feet.
I don’t care if you don’t agree, lol! But thanks for your opinion...
@@beautyinsound I do care and I'm disappointed to see lack of professionalism from your side.
@@sureevennot3418 What you're talking about is only commonly found on baroque instruments - not American/english electropneumatic. The swell pedals make for a fine footrest, and in all honesty only snobbish hoity-toity people who don't work in church services refuse to put their feet on the organ bench. Organ benches are built to hold your feet, that's why they have a bottom rail!! Also, Richard doesn't have to listen to your opinion. After all, it's his organ, and his money that paid for it...