The entire group had no shame. They were more into Chad’s approval and fake adoration until they finally stood up to his lies. That’s why Alex died. I don’t believe that Chad has remote supernatural powers but his mortal influence caused his followers to the ultimate darkness. Did Alex end his life because he felt he had lost the approval of Chad and Lori? Lori was disappointed when Alex failed to shoot Tammy. Serena was removed from the group when she challenged Chad’s repentance views. Whenever anyone challenged Chad and Lori’s opinions, they were removed.
I appreciate Zulema being so transparent, I felt her testimony was honest, even when it made her look incredibly foolish. I have felt for many years that Melanie Gibbs knows so much more than she lets on.
Monica: Zulema's reports to police and later testimony is self-serving. She is smart enough to know she could be in legal trouble. And all her reports are about Lori and Chad's crazy evil behavior.....and her slow awakening. None of these followers deserve ANY credit or praise. We should admire church members that rang alarm bells and those who were initially interested in the Lori and Chad teaching, rejected it, and walked away.
I ABSOLUTELY agree with you. MG was closer to Lori and Chad than Z ever was. MG has only been concerned about her own public image since the children were missing.
zulema is 100% in on the unalivings and cult group. She claims she can alter the weather and after all, alex died in her home. Look how quickly people believe anything people say. Sad
Let’s hear it for Lindsay Blake, who had more sustained objections and stricken questions in one half hour today than Prior will have in the whole trial. What a boss. She’s gooood.
I’m so impressed by her. Yes, Lindsey Blake! She puts Johnny deep’s lawyer Camille, or whatever her name, to shame. Ms Blake had better get a promotion after these two trials!
@@misskelly9821She and Rob Wood were the prosecutors in Lori's trial. She did a good job. Lori's defense attorneys were less aggressive in that Lori didn't want a vigorous defense.
Lindsay Blake deserves a raise after the amazing work shes done so far in Chads trial & all the work she put into Loris also! 👏👏 She is good at what she does! 🔥
she is extremely professional, doesn't make mistakes with her questions, asks the right questions and has them in the right order relevant to the witness. She is outstanding and makes JP look incompetent.
I live in east Tennessee. In my 47 years of living, I've seen a lot of reporters & news anchors. Nate is, by far, the BEST. Hands down. Personable, caring, intelligent, friendly, and compassionate. Just wanted to remind you, Nate....how awesome you are! 😁
I'm on the Cumberland Plateau in TN! We're the same age. I agree on Nate. I've been following him since he went to Hawaii and confronted Lori and Chad. I love watching the secret Santa videos at Christmas too.
Zulema's testimony is a real-life textbook example of how cults develop. How the cult leaders adapt their cult "doctrine" to manipulate their weak followers.
As an Idahoan myself, I am so glad both Lindsay Blake and Nate Eaton are also Idahoan's! Lindsay Blake is excellent at what she does. And, there is nobody like Nate! A few reasons why I believe Nate is so successful is he loves what he does. He is truly thankful to all the people who watch him. Gratitude helps bring Heaven to Earth, and God knows we need that! Great fortune in your fortune cookie tonight, Nate!
I wish all the news was like Nate’s. I love how he balanced out the horrific stuff with pets if the week and secret Santa. And he speaks on these court cases in an objective manner. No sensationalism needed. We need more Nate’s in this world!
I think its sad that we don't take time to remember Charles. He would still be alive if it weren't for these wackos. I know he doesn't have anything to do with this trial but he was a victim just the same.
Nate has honored Charles. But also emphasized that Charles's justice is coming at the next trial in Arizona. This one is about Tammy and the kids. But he has honored him before.
This was the best court day yet, I think Zulema was a great witness and the things she said buttoned up a lot of loose ends. Really interesting testimony
East Idaho news is doing a great job covering this trial. I am in South Weber Utah following this trial closely. I actually knew Tammy when I was on my mission though she was a little kid :-) me and my companion would go to their house and play Atari and we thought they were rich because they had the basketball game :-) I barely remember that but she reminded me when Chad was publishing my book famous Mormons. I never did meet Chad or Tammy in their older years and I never had met Chad thank goodness.
He DID impeach her. She was very inconsistent. She changed her statement to police so it would work in court (so she was also inconsistent with them), and she said she didn’t actually believe she had powers to predict the weather but then prior mentioned a text where she said she would send a storm to make something happen. Plus she’s only giving this testimony to save her own butt. If I was a juror and fence-sitting, I’d throw out her testimony. But luckily for the prosecution, her testimony is buttressed by loads of other evidence. So he did impeach her but does it matter? Maybe not.
I don’t think he’s “done” trying to impeach Zulema. He’ll try again when / if he calls her for defense. He’ll try again to get that 4 hour recording in.
Nate, I feel this trial is a lot DIFFERENT than Lori's trial. Chad's trial is more CREEPY! I can just picture Zulema asking Chad a question and he reaches into his back pocket and pulls out a crystal on a chain for the answer!!!! How ridiculous!
Yeah especially in Mexico. There's a video on youtube of an owl flying into a church in Mexico and everyone is freaking out, its pretty funny 😂 but only if you're not religious I suppose. The whole Chad crew sound utterly nasty and creepy. I don't believe in anything supernatural, good or bad. This makes this groups' actions even creepier to me, they did this all themselves, just because they wanted to. They wanted to manipulate and murder people, children, children with special needs even for no real reason, for no reason other than their own thrills. They an utterly disgusting bunch of creeps.
Never has the saying, truth is stranger than fiction" had more meaning". I'm from Hampton,VA. Now living in Colorado. Been following since the beginning. Thanks Nate. I am so hooked on this every evening after work. Love you and your adorable family.
Every time Larry gets emotional-I get emotional!! Paw Paw gets me every time I can’t imagine what he and Kay have been through and I have such love for them both.
I’ve been following this case since the kids were originally missing, listened to all of Lori’s trial and this one and still find myself shocked and even crying a few times hearing about the bodies being discovered and autopsied. It will never not be shocking and heartbreaking no matter how much time passes. May sweet JJ and Tylee rest in peace in the arms of Christ 🤍
The best thing I heard was that JJ had alcohol in his system. I thought “ oh my god maybe he was too messed up to be terrified with what was happening”, then the guy said it could have just been residual from decomposition 😢
Tammy's parents. Imagine living an honest, loving life, and then your final years immersed in this hell. May her Mom rest in peace, and her father find peace as well.
Tammy's was pulmonary edema. Alex was pulmonary embolism. Whether Chad lied or misquoted Tammy's original COD or if everyone else is misquoting it, who knows. We hear pulmonary embolism more often than pulmonary edema. I read somewhere that the ME removed Alex's blood clots and gave them to LE. I wonder if it was done to show beyond all doubt Alex's death was natural or why they did that. I think Alex died from guilt. Obviously, he was unaware he had heart disease, but I wonder if opening his eyes about being the fall guy and questioning if he was a man of God, was him realizing the horrible things he let Lori convince him to do and it was more than his heart could take..
I listened to the entirety of Lori’s trial and watched ALL of Chad’s but ur live finally made me understand what was so important about tapping and being “exalted in a prior life”. They felt like they were IMMUNE
I’m re- watching/listening to all your videos, post Chad’s trial and conviction. I missed large portions of the trial so I’m going back to review. I’m so grateful for your wonderful coverage, Nate. Your work is stellar. Thank you and your lovely wife, Erica. You’re the best. Zulema is a very lucky woman to get out of all this with her life. Wow.
@@duckthecuckoo - The most sickening part of it all is that this is really what that psycho convinced his idiot girlfriend of. He just wanted to collect life insurance money and never work again with someone who never dared question him by his side.
@@Widespread-Panic I think he's also a psychopath who wanted to murder . He wrote that book 'One Foot in the Grave, ' where he talked about his greatness as a grave digger and how he got even with people who weren't nice to him. I think the money mattered, but I think the power mattered more, and killing was a rush of power for him.
@@SilentThundersnowI've read just his autobiography while his site was still functioning. I was impressed how he presented his very humble and ordinary life as a chain of great events. The birth of His children, the purchase of His house, His grave digging job, everything was His, He , Him.
Wow, I really appreciate how humble you are Nate. When people correct you, you are just so receiving when they are correct. And even when you do point out maybe a difference of opinion, you do it in such a mannerly & humble way.
Dude, you lay plastic on the bed if you're planning an adult activity that involves a lot of baby oil. It really is a thing that some couples do enjoy; it's not my thing, but I don't shame people's preferences in that department, as long as everyone is giving informed consent. The first time I heard about the plastic sheet, one of the hosts of the show I heard it on was actually perplexed that anyone would find it odd to put plastic sheeting on a bed, because it means a particular type of adult activity that they are really into. Given Alex being into sex tourism, I kind think that it isn't beyond reasonable to think that he was hoping the massage would end differently than his brand new wife falling asleep. The silence afterwards could have been him feeling dejected because it didn't go the way that he wanted.
@@mightme6887 It was a massage. You must have never had a professional one before because they use oil and you lay on a comfortable sheet. If massage parlors used plastic, I think they would be out of business because no one would be going due to how uncomfortable and unpleasant and non-relaxing that would be. Also, this took place in a hotel, so no need to worry about oil getting on the sheets or the bedding.
@@loveforeignaccents it wasn't a professional massage, nor was it a massage parlor; it was a newlywed couple in a hotel room. Therefore, what is done in massage parlors by professional masseurs and masseuses isn't actually relevant to the conversation. For the adult activity, it's actually not uncommon to use plastic sheeting. Oils require non-standard methods of laundering, and can cause staining. If that occurred, a hotel would just consider the bedding a loss. Additionally, depending on the amount of oil a couple uses, it can go through the bedding and ruin the mattress. the couple could then be on the hook to replace it. Hotels keep credit cards on file in case of stuff getting damaged or ruined, and would have no problem charging for oil getting into the bedding or the mattress. If all a person wants to do is give their partner a massage, a towel would suffice, and I think that anyone would has ever given or received a massage be aware of that. Plastic sheeting is overdoing it, if that's the goal. However, the presence of plastic sheeting isn't necessarily an indication of violent intent.
The "objection" "sustained" "Move on Mr. Prior" back and forth was hilarious. Lindsey Blake was on her game. As was Judge Boyce. Zulema was unflustered by Prior. "To be ahead of what you're doing right now." I jaw-dropped. A perfect answer.
How can some women be so weak minded?!!!! What the hell is wrong with Zulema?!! I can tell you, if my husband of less than 24 hours, who I barely know, said we needed to go buy a drop cloth, to protect a bed in a hotel room that we DIDN'T EVEN OWN.... not only am I not going along with that, but I'm making an excuse that I need to go to the gift shop to buy something. I would find any way possible OUT OF THAT HOTEL ROOM ALONE. And once I was alone, I'm contacting my family, on my way to the police station, and my ass wouldn't be leaving that police station without an escort to the airport, to get the hell out of dodge. Not only does she go along with the drop cloth massage....but she wakes up like 12 hours later, feeling drugged, and STILL DOESN'T RUN FOR THE HILLS?!?! I just don't get what she was thinking!!! Alex was 1000% "testing" the life ending drugs on Zulema. I'd bet my house on it. It's too weird how often Alex traveled to Mexico to buy his medications at a "cheaper" price, and he and Tammy, two perfectly healthy adults, just so happen to have heart failure in their sleep?!?????!!!!! And again, Zulema NEVER ONCE THOUGHT TO QUESTION THIS?!?!
It’s just like Ian when Melani is telling him all of these things and he’s talking with Lori & Chad…thinking his children & ex wife are in actual danger and he STILL goes along with the marriage!
Don’t forget that Joe Ryan died of heart failure at a young age as well. 40’s. Lori’s third husband who she then got to collect money from after he died.
I believe LV unalived JJ to spite Kay due to her getting the million dollar life insurance. She could have easily given him to her but it was the ultimate kick in the head to Kay to end his life.
No she got 4,000 a month or more for taking care of J.J. It was all about the Benjamins. As one detective pointed out the only ones killed were those who presented a financial opportunity for them. Alex was not the beneficiary of Zulema's life insurance policy. He may have forged her signature by getting the form over the phone like they tried to do with Charles. But the plastic, it's weird. Maybe they wanted her killed because she knew too much, was a loose end. I believe Alex killed himself on their orders. The only other loose end then would be Gibb and David.
I agree. It was to spite Kay, because Lori had no patience for JJs needs and because she wanted to keep receiving his social security benefits from Charles and her benefits from being JJs surviving parent. She would have lost that money had she given him to Kay.
Without a doubt- Narcissists are the most vindictive revengeful monsters you will ever meet, they don’t care how long they have to wait they play the long game to destroy their victims
Yes, like when Charles said something is not right with my wife!! I mean it sounded nuts but what if the cops took him serious?? Who knows it’s all so crazy & convoluted!!
Thank you Nate! You are awesome in so many ways. Positive. Receptive. Teachable. A good listener. Open minded. Supportive. Honest. Optimistic. It is clear you are an upstanding human who is honest and good. And I enjoy so much your recaps.
I really get the feeling Chad had convinced Lori to sever their trials, plead incompetency and allow him to blame her in his trial so he could be free and then he would fight to free her. I could see him telling her God told him this is how it needs to play out and they will be free to live out their mission. That’s why she didn’t fight in court and just allowed it to happen, while he gets to blame her. It was all his manipulation of her.
There is something going on. Either they promised not to blame each other if they got caught or Lori thought by not blaming him at her trial, he'd extend the same courtesy. Their lawyers were working together at one point until Judge Boyce ordered them to do separate.
Good theory but they weren't allowed to communicate after Chad was arrested. Maybe they have "portals" in their cells? 😂 There isn't anyone left who could be their proxy either. I think Lori is still under his spell, but Chad is out for Chad & has no problem blaming everything on that man-eating vixon. 🙄
Everyone that keeps asking why Charles isn’t remembered: he is obviously remembered but this is not his trial. His trial is in AZ and will be remembered every courtroom insider for that one.
It sounds to me like Melanie Palowski needs to be investigated. If I heard correctly, she was in on calling her own children dark!!! She told her daughter about it and she was ok with it??????????????????????? They should not let this go. Everyone that participated in this insanity needs to answer for their parts in this insanity!!! If not, they will do it again.
54:38 Adam Cox stated on his podcast Silver Linings, that he believes his brother Alex would have spilled everything if he had been caught, no doubt in his mind. Just some food for thought in answer to your question, Nate.
Hello Nate! Thank you for explaining all of this testimony from Zulema. I agree with you that it is baffling how they could remember all of this insane information! I am actually glad the Zulema took all of these notes - otherwise, we would probably never know what they believed in. Thank you for following this case from day one. The people involved are numerous, unlike most cases and it is/has taken so much time out of your life and away from your family. Again, thank you, Nate and East Idaho News!
I heard the burp, Nate. It was top notch; no SHAME! XX Thank you for all you do and have done on this case for years! You are appreciated for your coverage/continued coverage! XX
I think they wanted Alex to get rid of Zulema…Alex spared her, Chad and Lorie were pissed and started to treat Alex badly. She really lucked out. Lorie was probably berating him on the phone for screwing things up again and calling him a moron.
I'm wondering if Alex didn't want to kill anyone at all but agreed to help dispose the corpses. Especially after hearing about Zulema's massage from him.
@@Peaceful-Sheep - Good point. He screwed up every time, and it looks like Lori had to suffocate JJ herself. But it does sound like he was involved in cleaning up the bodies.
Zulema did a very good job today. She handled Prior better than many of the others. I hope the victims’ family are ok with this because I think Zulema’s testimony may be what tips the scales of Justice toward GUILTY on all counts. It was interesting to watch Daybell’s demeanor as Zulema testified. He starts out sitting straight & tall as he has done before. By the end, he is slumped in his chair, shrinking into himself (probably trying to be as small as possible so the jury won’t see him). Why doesn’t the State just parade Christina,Serena and Nicole through the witness stand and confirm the things Zulema is saying? That’ll shut Prior up. I don’t blame the jury for being in a “We’re over it” status with Prior. He is trying every angle to get his client off and it’s becoming tiresome and predictable. You cannot refute facts and truth. Let’s all pray for a guilty verdict on June 9 !!! I cannot say enough about Judge Boyce. Wow !!! His grasp of the law and ability to stay engaged and focused during lengthy, sometimes tedious testimony (much of which he has heard already and some of it TWICE) is amazing !!! I would love to sit down and have a conversation with him … about things other than this case or even the law. He must be incredibly intelligent, aware and articulate. So much to admire about this human being. I’d also love to sit down and have a conversation with Ms. Blake. She is AMAZING !!!!!!
he's trying to give the impression everything was orchestrated by Lori and Chad was just following orders. if they could prove he was "brainwashed" by Lori he wouldn't get the death penalty. that's really the only thing he could hope for at this point.
@@xyz12345457 I meant Zulema and I do think that Melanie Gibb knew more than she was letting on. She ADMITTED on that phone call that she KNEW Charles was going to die and TOLD that other woman "You KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO ZOMBIES?" She knew those people were going to die!!!! And you're telling me that she didn't know??!! Bullcrap!!! Go listen to that phone call before you spout off some nonsense about her not knowing and the call proving she was innocent. Give me a break. Peace out!!!
Nate, thanks for your always interesting and inclusive coverage. Regarding the cough.....I think the world has it! LOL. I am in East Coast Canada and have had it for two weeks now, as do many of my friends and family. Feel better soon and thanks again for your amazing coverage. PS: I look forward to your interview with the court stenographers....I always wondered how they use those little machines. Prayers for Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ.
I'm a court reporter. Think of our machine like a piano. A combination of keys can mean many things, including commonly said phrases like: State your full name; I don't recall; in your own words; beyond a reasonable doubt, etc., etc. A simple name such as the name Jim on our machine would be SKWR*EUPL, which seems like a lot, but that is all getting taken down amongst several fingers within one keystroke versus three -- J-i-m -- on an actual typewriter.
Nate we thank you for reporting on this case so much hard work that you have done and time away from your family! We thank your wife Erica and your children for letting you do allthe extra work needed for you to report on this case! Love to you all ❤❤❤from AKRON, OHIO 😊😊😊
Chad did NOT like Zulema talking about Lori holding Chad’s hand, physically intimate, etc.” in AZ after Charles was shot. He frowned, shook his head and started writing notes for his atty 🧐😤😆
I can’t get past Zulema saying that she had “visions” telling her that she should “protect Lori”. Holy smokes! I kept waiting for her to say “I certainly know now that this was delusional!” I’m sorry. I found her to be kind of a dim bulb.
Did you see her testimony in Lori’s trial? I feel she has come a long way. I think she has been through intense counseling and healing for insecurity/ lack of confidence /low self worth
I missed her testimony in Lori’s trial. I very much hope she had had some help after because by drawn into that fantasy world. I can just hear Chad on the phone with her, telling he all about her past lives, and being pleased with himself that he can choose the right people for his little cult world.
You said that jurors looked tired of Priors line of questioning over and over but nothing against Prior. I can't imagine anyone not be annoyed at him. He doesn't listen to the judge or the objections that are sustained. He asks the same question over and over. I think he's horrible!! He might be a nice person in person but as an attorney no.
Nate, great stream! Thank you for doing these recaps for us. Please get that cough checked out! I’m starting to worry about you! Much love to you and your family! ❤
I am so happy that Zulema said that Alex Cox said to her that he hoped they were not going to use him for their fall guy. Hallelujah! OF COURSE THEY DID. I was afraid the idea would never be introduced.
Nate, I’m thinking Chad IS the mastermind and he saw ALL of the players in this as his minions and that they are all idiots. He didn’t kill HIS kids. Everything that happened benefited Chad. I’m not standing up for Lori or Alex, but Chad was getting everything he ever wanted out of this deal. A “hot" new wife without kids, no more wife to bother him about "career" that was going no where, the adult kids can’t take sides if the one parent is dead instead of a divorce… maybe Chad doesn’t believe in any of this?!
Absolutely!!! When she described Chad in the middle of the women and all of them sitting around him. He planned on a harem with all these women. ANYONE not pleasing him would die!!
I'm most shocked that Zulema is a Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor. I'm currently utilizing the DVR because of a brain injury. I can't imagine needing job skills and learning that the Counselor who was guiding me was a part of this psycho-loony, woo-woo, crew. 😳
Zulema was no victim. She was one of the 7 Gatherers. She keeps looking at Chad, like he's still got his hooks in her. Too many coincidences about Alex, starting with the fact that Adam told the police Alex took off work for a week at a time to "get women" in Central America. Funny, Lori and Chad just so happened to have his type of woman in their back pocket with which to reward his service. 🙄 Then there are the coincidences surrounding his death. 1) He died just as the police were closing in. 2) He died just as he was realizing he was their fall guy. 3) He died from a supposed pulmonary embolism, which was the same thing Chad said Tammy died from. 4) Zulema was in a position to have Alex cremated, so he couldn't be exhumed later. Lori, Chad, and Melani talked about it in one of Ian's recordings - which, by the way, was also the only recording they all giggled through Chad's blessing. Alex trusted Zulema enough to tell her he thought he was their fall guy. I bet he trusted her enough to eat her food and drink her beverages as well.
@@bean6157 The OP is responding to a question from Nate about Zulema being a victim and they just said no. We're not saying anybody is treating her as innocent. We're just giving answers. That's all.
The “nosy” neighbor (not my thought but a quote from Chad) also died of a pulmonary embolism after walking near the “pet cemetery”. He got too close 😠😫🤬
Thank you, Nate, for your great summary every day of this case. I don’t sit and watch it all day long because it’s very boring and it’s hard to understand what the witnesses are saying. So when I see your show, I can put on the closed caption and can understand when you show videos from the court. Your summations allow me do not have to sit there for hours listening to a lot of really boring stuff. Lol.
@@Loves_three_kitties You were probably at Powhatan Plantation, which is east of us near Williamsburg. Powhatan County is quite rural-we wouldn’t know a timeshare from a plowshare! Virginia is truly a beautiful state. I’m really a Carolina girl, but being exiled to Virginia is lovely.
Nate, I watch every night while I am on dialysis. I appreciate that you report the straight story not add your “spin”. One day I would love to hear your personal opinion of all this . Here is a thought about how Chad and Lori knew about Tammy’s exhumation. Chad used to work for the Springville cemetery. Is it possible that they (cemetery) knew in advance and someone tipped Chad off as to what was going down.? The cemetery would most likely be informed to make sure there would not be a conflicting funeral going on at the same time. Just a thought
You make a valid point! I wonder if Chad was privy to ALL of the going-ons at the cemetery, considering his association. I wish you all the best of care during your dialysis. My mother was on dialysis for 6 years. I have an idea how exhausting dialysis can be for kidney patients.
No they’re both trying to HIDE, the way Alex wanted to take Zulema’s last name to hide from the police. Not one of these people is the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Maybe Chad's attorney was notified. Maybe because Ian was taping them, to see if they would talk about it and incriminate themselves. Or maybe Chad being the spouse was notified but he kept it quiet from the kids.
Gar!!! It’s Zulema’s turn!!!!!! NOOOOO!!!!! I always feel like I lose soooo many brain cells whenever I’m subjected to this woman’s confounding account of things. What a dull bloody bulb she was / is!! I think my cognitive ability has only just recovered since enduring her testimony at Lori’s trial! Yet, I can’t look away!!!! I must be such a dark one!!!! Thanks again Nate. More greetings from Australia! 🇦🇺
@@marylizakowski706 yep. She was obviously so desperate for belonging and significance. She didn’t stand a chance with L and C. I mean, who, in their right mind, would submit to a massage - on a heavy plastic drop sheet - in a hotel room that’s a short drive away from a desert - from a guy who had shot hit brother in law and shot at Brandon in the last 6 months… and whose niece and nephew are actually missing?!!!
Between the Chad Daybell /Lori Vallow Daybell unalivings, and the recent self unaliving of Mica Miller, the young South Carolina pastor's wife in North Carolina, I am sick of twisted religion stealing people's lives. 😢💔🕯️🕊️
You should check out the Freedom From Religion Foundation (assuming you're American). They help try to keep all this religious zealotry nonsense out of our schools and government, which is vital to personal freedom!
It happens when Nate doesn’t mute his mic while playing the videos, he notices a lot of the time and you can hear the click of him muting his mic and then the echo goes away. I’m sorry people are being weird to you in response
Thank you Nate. Praying for that gnarly congestion in your cough. Tell Chad I hear that the electric chair has a lot of vibration. I can't say by experience however I've heard about it.
They wouldn't have to kill me, I would die of embarrassment that I was so stupid to follow a deadbeat slug like Chad.
💯💯💯
Slug is a very fitting description.
The entire group had no shame. They were more into Chad’s approval and fake adoration until they finally stood up to his lies. That’s why Alex died. I don’t believe that Chad has remote supernatural powers but his mortal influence caused his followers to the ultimate darkness. Did Alex end his life because he felt he had lost the approval of Chad and Lori? Lori was disappointed when Alex failed to shoot Tammy. Serena was removed from the group when she challenged Chad’s repentance views. Whenever anyone challenged Chad and Lori’s opinions, they were removed.
The “banality of evil” personified= Doublechin Chad.
Right? It crazy people can be so dumb
I appreciate Zulema being so transparent, I felt her testimony was honest, even when it made her look incredibly foolish. I have felt for many years that Melanie Gibbs knows so much more than she lets on.
Monica: Zulema's reports to police and later testimony is self-serving. She is smart enough to know she could be in legal trouble. And all her reports are about Lori and Chad's crazy evil behavior.....and her slow awakening.
None of these followers deserve ANY credit or praise.
We should admire church members that rang alarm bells and those who were initially interested in the Lori and Chad teaching, rejected it, and walked away.
I as well. Melanie Gibb was trusted by Chad and Lori to have their backs.
I ABSOLUTELY agree with you. MG was closer to Lori and Chad than Z ever was. MG has only been concerned about her own public image since the children were missing.
zulema is 100% in on the unalivings and cult group. She claims she can alter the weather and after all, alex died in her home. Look how quickly people believe anything people say. Sad
Let’s hear it for Lindsay Blake, who had more sustained objections and stricken questions in one half hour today than Prior will have in the whole trial.
What a boss. She’s gooood.
I’m so impressed by her. Yes, Lindsey Blake! She puts Johnny deep’s lawyer Camille, or whatever her name, to shame. Ms Blake had better get a promotion after these two trials!
Was she on the Prosecutions team during Lori’s trial? I just don’t remember a female Prosecutor from that trial being so succinct and on the ball..
@@misskelly9821she was. And she was quite sharp most days. Her dad died during trial.
She is doing a phenomenal job!
@@misskelly9821She and Rob Wood were the prosecutors in Lori's trial. She did a good job. Lori's defense attorneys were less aggressive in that Lori didn't want a vigorous defense.
Lindsay Blake deserves a raise after the amazing work shes done so far in Chads trial & all the work she put into Loris also! 👏👏 She is good at what she does! 🔥
I have been sooooo impressed by her! Way to lawyer, Lindsey Blake!
She asks those ridiculous questions with a straight face, and has to actually step into that world as if it makes sense.
She's an effing hero!
She is totally good! And so professional. So intelligent. So clear and concise and planned
She is pretty awesome!
she is extremely professional, doesn't make mistakes with her questions, asks the right questions and has them in the right order relevant to the witness. She is outstanding and makes JP look incompetent.
RIP Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ.
And Joseph Ryan
They are look down and laughter 😃
@@michellebakic4202 Yes they are 😊😀🤣😝😢RIP angels 😇😇😇😇💜💜💙💙
And Joe
RIP 🙏🏻💖💖💖
I live in east Tennessee. In my 47 years of living, I've seen a lot of reporters & news anchors. Nate is, by far, the BEST. Hands down. Personable, caring, intelligent, friendly, and compassionate. Just wanted to remind you, Nate....how awesome you are! 😁
I'm on the Cumberland Plateau in TN! We're the same age. I agree on Nate. I've been following him since he went to Hawaii and confronted Lori and Chad. I love watching the secret Santa videos at Christmas too.
I’m in East TN too!
@@bethnorrod5942same!
I’m 68 and I agree 💯
@@bethnorrod5942 I love those, too!!
Zulema's testimony is a real-life textbook example of how cults develop. How the cult leaders adapt their cult "doctrine" to manipulate their weak followers.
They even isolated her in a new place!! classic
She killed alex
Has it come out whether or not she and Alex had life insurance policies yet
As an Idahoan myself, I am so glad both Lindsay Blake and Nate Eaton are also Idahoan's! Lindsay Blake is excellent at what she does. And, there is nobody like Nate! A few reasons why I believe Nate is so successful is he loves what he does. He is truly thankful to all the people who watch him. Gratitude helps bring Heaven to Earth, and God knows we need that! Great fortune in your fortune cookie tonight, Nate!
I wish all the news was like Nate’s. I love how he balanced out the horrific stuff with pets if the week and secret Santa. And he speaks on these court cases in an objective manner. No sensationalism needed. We need more Nate’s in this world!
I absolutely agree! Well said!
I think its sad that we don't take time to remember Charles. He would still be alive if it weren't for these wackos. I know he doesn't have anything to do with this trial but he was a victim just the same.
Those cops should have listened to him. They probably thought he was crazy when he was attempting to explain to police what was going on. 😢
He was a good man, husband, father, brother. Lori never appreciated what she had in him. She wanted to be a goddess.
He will be doing that every night during Lori's AZ trial.
@@mktny6028
Those cops were dirty. Did anyone bother to check and see if they were part of the Daybell cult ?
Nate has honored Charles. But also emphasized that Charles's justice is coming at the next trial in Arizona. This one is about Tammy and the kids. But he has honored him before.
Zulema and Mel and Lori were the scariest church ladies ever.
Maybe this verdict will come right before Father’s Day, which would be absolutely perfect.
That would sure be sweet
@@nataliebaker8549
Guilty. Happy Father's day. 😅
Everyone said the same about Lori and Mothers day. I believe her verdict came out the Friday before. 😂😂
And on the anniversary of finding those sweet babies.
@@mechjean It sure did! Friday was her verdict and that Sunday was a pleasant Mothers Day for the REAL moms out there!
This was the best court day yet, I think Zulema was a great witness and the things she said buttoned up a lot of loose ends. Really interesting testimony
East Idaho news is doing a great job covering this trial. I am in South Weber Utah following this trial closely. I actually knew Tammy when I was on my mission though she was a little kid :-) me and my companion would go to their house and play Atari and we thought they were rich because they had the basketball game :-) I barely remember that but she reminded me when Chad was publishing my book famous Mormons. I never did meet Chad or Tammy in their older years and I never had met Chad thank goodness.
I was watching EIN live and it was up to 83K people. So many invested in seeing lady justice hit Daybell over the head.
With a shovel 😁
3:54 Prior wanted to impeach Zulema Pastenes because she spoke the fullest and most damaging truths.
She knew more except for MP
He DID impeach her. She was very inconsistent. She changed her statement to police so it would work in court (so she was also inconsistent with them), and she said she didn’t actually believe she had powers to predict the weather but then prior mentioned a text where she said she would send a storm to make something happen. Plus she’s only giving this testimony to save her own butt. If I was a juror and fence-sitting, I’d throw out her testimony. But luckily for the prosecution, her testimony is buttressed by loads of other evidence. So he did impeach her but does it matter? Maybe not.
I have a lot of respect for her for telling the truth!
I don’t think he’s “done” trying to impeach Zulema. He’ll try again when / if he calls her for defense. He’ll try again to get that 4 hour recording in.
She had more of Alex's perspective.
Nate, I feel this trial is a lot DIFFERENT than Lori's trial. Chad's trial is more CREEPY! I can just picture Zulema asking Chad a question and he reaches into his back pocket and pulls out a crystal on a chain for the answer!!!! How ridiculous!
It is not a crystal, it is an owl. In some cultures owls represent death. Very creepy.
Yeah especially in Mexico. There's a video on youtube of an owl flying into a church in Mexico and everyone is freaking out, its pretty funny 😂 but only if you're not religious I suppose. The whole Chad crew sound utterly nasty and creepy. I don't believe in anything supernatural, good or bad. This makes this groups' actions even creepier to me, they did this all themselves, just because they wanted to. They wanted to manipulate and murder people, children, children with special needs even for no real reason, for no reason other than their own thrills. They an utterly disgusting bunch of creeps.
Why do I think it was some cheap charm necklace he found on the church floor?
Total insanity. Total freak.
@asamatteroffact9247 yes he found it while cleaning his LDS church building and decided to steal it.
Never has the saying, truth is stranger than fiction" had more meaning". I'm from Hampton,VA. Now living in Colorado. Been following since the beginning. Thanks Nate. I am so hooked on this every evening after work. Love you and your adorable family.
Broke my heart when I saw Larry bowing his head and crying.
How can you even see him the video is so unfocused & I can never decipher anyone
@@bizzeeBe He is near the back before the door.
@@bizzeeBe Not to direct people away from Nate's channel, but Judge Boyce's channel is a lot clearer.
Every time Larry gets emotional-I get emotional!! Paw Paw gets me every time I can’t imagine what he and Kay have been through and I have such love for them both.
@@bethdoxey4536 ❤
I’ve been following this case since the kids were originally missing, listened to all of Lori’s trial and this one and still find myself shocked and even crying a few times hearing about the bodies being discovered and autopsied. It will never not be shocking and heartbreaking no matter how much time passes. May sweet JJ and Tylee rest in peace in the arms of Christ 🤍
The best thing I heard was that JJ had alcohol in his system. I thought “ oh my god maybe he was too messed up to be terrified with what was happening”, then the guy said it could have just been residual from decomposition 😢
@@kateashby3066 yes I understand that thinking
Tammy's parents. Imagine living an honest, loving life, and then your final years immersed in this hell. May her Mom rest in peace, and her father find peace as well.
I want to know what chads folks think now!
I'm sure this horror killed Tammy's mother.
Nate's the hardest working guy in news for sure! 👍🏼
It's interesting that Chad told everyone Tammy died of a pulmonary embolism and that is how Alex died. Almost as if Chad knew.
Must be the "torn veil"...
I've never thought of that !!!
Tammy's was pulmonary edema. Alex was pulmonary embolism. Whether Chad lied or misquoted Tammy's original COD or if everyone else is misquoting it, who knows. We hear pulmonary embolism more often than pulmonary edema. I read somewhere that the ME removed Alex's blood clots and gave them to LE. I wonder if it was done to show beyond all doubt Alex's death was natural or why they did that. I think Alex died from guilt. Obviously, he was unaware he had heart disease, but I wonder if opening his eyes about being the fall guy and questioning if he was a man of God, was him realizing the horrible things he let Lori convince him to do and it was more than his heart could take..
too much of a coincidence??
@@honeybunch5765 lol
I listened to the entirety of Lori’s trial and watched ALL of Chad’s but ur live finally made me understand what was so important about tapping and being “exalted in a prior life”. They felt like they were IMMUNE
This trial is the stuff nightmares are made of! 😨 Rest in Peace Charles, Tammy, JJ, and Tylee 🙏🏻
I have been having nightmares and i haven't had any in years.
@@WolfRossMe too. I have bad dreams about those case. 1st one ever
Can you imagine how it was for the kids to live with these creeps at the end... The energy and behavior around them at the end... Just creepy.
No one would dare write a movie like this- no one would believe it!!
@@WolfRoss same!!!! I never have nightmares over a trial, and I had one last night about it!
I’m re- watching/listening to all your videos, post Chad’s trial and conviction.
I missed large portions of the trial so I’m going back to review.
I’m so grateful for your wonderful coverage, Nate. Your work is stellar.
Thank you and your lovely wife, Erica. You’re the best.
Zulema is a very lucky woman to get out of all this with her life. Wow.
Remember Lori claimed that Chad couldn’t get divorced because he would have LOST his exaltation
@@duckthecuckoo - The most sickening part of it all is that this is really what that psycho convinced his idiot girlfriend of. He just wanted to collect life insurance money and never work again with someone who never dared question him by his side.
@@Widespread-Panic I think he's also a psychopath who wanted to murder . He wrote that book 'One Foot in the Grave, ' where he talked about his greatness as a grave digger and how he got even with people who weren't nice to him.
I think the money mattered, but I think the power mattered more, and killing was a rush of power for him.
In other words he would not get the R250k life insurance.
Yes-it was because of the life insurance. That’s also why he pumped it up shortly (?) before her death. Disgusting.
@@SilentThundersnowI've read just his autobiography while his site was still functioning. I was impressed how he presented his very humble and ordinary life as a chain of great events. The birth of His children, the purchase of His house, His grave digging job, everything was His, He , Him.
Zulema literally brought the receipts with her testimony today.
She speaks like a toddler
Wow, I really appreciate how humble you are Nate. When people correct you, you are just so receiving when they are correct. And even when you do point out maybe a difference of opinion, you do it in such a mannerly & humble way.
How unsexy it sounds when your lover lays a plastic drop cloth over the bed before you lay down on it. Towels over the bed maybe. Plastic? Run!!!!
Right?!!
@@ralphmajor1947 He wouldn't have to drug her simply to have his way w/her. They were newlyweds.
Dude, you lay plastic on the bed if you're planning an adult activity that involves a lot of baby oil. It really is a thing that some couples do enjoy; it's not my thing, but I don't shame people's preferences in that department, as long as everyone is giving informed consent.
The first time I heard about the plastic sheet, one of the hosts of the show I heard it on was actually perplexed that anyone would find it odd to put plastic sheeting on a bed, because it means a particular type of adult activity that they are really into. Given Alex being into sex tourism, I kind think that it isn't beyond reasonable to think that he was hoping the massage would end differently than his brand new wife falling asleep. The silence afterwards could have been him feeling dejected because it didn't go the way that he wanted.
@@mightme6887 It was a massage. You must have never had a professional one before because they use oil and you lay on a comfortable sheet. If massage parlors used plastic, I think they would be out of business because no one would be going due to how uncomfortable and unpleasant and non-relaxing that would be.
Also, this took place in a hotel, so no need to worry about oil getting on the sheets or the bedding.
@@loveforeignaccents it wasn't a professional massage, nor was it a massage parlor; it was a newlywed couple in a hotel room. Therefore, what is done in massage parlors by professional masseurs and masseuses isn't actually relevant to the conversation.
For the adult activity, it's actually not uncommon to use plastic sheeting. Oils require non-standard methods of laundering, and can cause staining. If that occurred, a hotel would just consider the bedding a loss. Additionally, depending on the amount of oil a couple uses, it can go through the bedding and ruin the mattress. the couple could then be on the hook to replace it. Hotels keep credit cards on file in case of stuff getting damaged or ruined, and would have no problem charging for oil getting into the bedding or the mattress.
If all a person wants to do is give their partner a massage, a towel would suffice, and I think that anyone would has ever given or received a massage be aware of that. Plastic sheeting is overdoing it, if that's the goal. However, the presence of plastic sheeting isn't necessarily an indication of violent intent.
Ms. Blake is phenomenal.
Have followed you for years from Barcelona, Spain. Zulema's testimony was the best and clearest yet.
Except for her "umm, um, umm"-ing every other word.
I look forward to this show every day from AZ!!!! Thanks so much Nate!!! 💖
The "objection" "sustained" "Move on Mr. Prior" back and forth was hilarious. Lindsey Blake was on her game. As was Judge Boyce.
Zulema was unflustered by Prior. "To be ahead of what you're doing right now." I jaw-dropped. A perfect answer.
Thank you, Nate, for following court rules. That's why we trust you!❤
"Don't bring a whole-on turkey dinner - but if you do, bring me some." without even cracking a smile. Pure professional. Love you Nate!
How can some women be so weak minded?!!!! What the hell is wrong with Zulema?!! I can tell you, if my husband of less than 24 hours, who I barely know, said we needed to go buy a drop cloth, to protect a bed in a hotel room that we DIDN'T EVEN OWN.... not only am I not going along with that, but I'm making an excuse that I need to go to the gift shop to buy something. I would find any way possible OUT OF THAT HOTEL ROOM ALONE. And once I was alone, I'm contacting my family, on my way to the police station, and my ass wouldn't be leaving that police station without an escort to the airport, to get the hell out of dodge.
Not only does she go along with the drop cloth massage....but she wakes up like 12 hours later, feeling drugged, and STILL DOESN'T RUN FOR THE HILLS?!?! I just don't get what she was thinking!!!
Alex was 1000% "testing" the life ending drugs on Zulema. I'd bet my house on it. It's too weird how often Alex traveled to Mexico to buy his medications at a "cheaper" price, and he and Tammy, two perfectly healthy adults, just so happen to have heart failure in their sleep?!?????!!!!! And again, Zulema NEVER ONCE THOUGHT TO QUESTION THIS?!?!
It’s not unheard of for couples to use oil and protect sheets with plastic
Not if she was already drugged up
People who join or run cults are mentally ill. Hope that answers your question.
It’s just like Ian when Melani is telling him all of these things and he’s talking with Lori & Chad…thinking his children & ex wife are in actual danger and he STILL goes along with the marriage!
Don’t forget that Joe Ryan died of heart failure at a young age as well. 40’s. Lori’s third husband who she then got to collect money from after he died.
This is the best trial commentary/recap out there! Thank you for breaking everything down at the end of the day for us!
Thanks so much for your coverage and all your hard work. We appreciate you! This all can be overwhelming - just the volume of evidence. Wow.
I believe LV unalived JJ to spite Kay due to her getting the million dollar life insurance. She could have easily given him to her but it was the ultimate kick in the head to Kay to end his life.
No she got 4,000 a month or more for taking care of J.J. It was all about the Benjamins. As one detective pointed out the only ones killed were those who presented a financial opportunity for them. Alex was not the beneficiary of Zulema's life insurance policy. He may have forged her signature by getting the form over the phone like they tried to do with Charles. But the plastic, it's weird. Maybe they wanted her killed because she knew too much, was a loose end. I believe Alex killed himself on their orders. The only other loose end then would be Gibb and David.
I agree. It was to spite Kay, because Lori had no patience for JJs needs and because she wanted to keep receiving his social security benefits from Charles and her benefits from being JJs surviving parent. She would have lost that money had she given him to Kay.
💯agree
Without a doubt- Narcissists are the most vindictive revengeful monsters you will ever meet, they don’t care how long they have to wait they play the long game to destroy their victims
That poor child suffered! Not being able to breathe.. a bad death. Monsters
If police had gotten involved early on, a big probability that none of this would have happened.
Gilbert LE and Chandler LE really dropped the ball.
Oh for sure! The AZ authorities f’ed up BIG TIME
Charles body cam video is heartbreaking when he begs for help and he was met with indifference.
Thank God Idaho law enforcement didn't act like Arizona!
Yes, like when Charles said something is not right with my wife!! I mean it sounded nuts but what if the cops took him serious?? Who knows it’s all so crazy & convoluted!!
Thank you Nate! You are awesome in so many ways. Positive. Receptive. Teachable. A good listener. Open minded. Supportive. Honest. Optimistic. It is clear you are an upstanding human who is honest and good. And I enjoy so much your recaps.
Thank you for your work reporting on this case from minute one and keeping us so well informed, Nate!
I absolutely LOVE your courtroom insider lives!! I always watch later, because I am in Australia, and all the action happens while i'm sleeping..
Me too. Fellow Aussie here and the recap is just so good.
I really get the feeling Chad had convinced Lori to sever their trials, plead incompetency and allow him to blame her in his trial so he could be free and then he would fight to free her. I could see him telling her God told him this is how it needs to play out and they will be free to live out their mission. That’s why she didn’t fight in court and just allowed it to happen, while he gets to blame her. It was all his manipulation of her.
I’ve had the same thought. Otherwise I’d think he’d try to divorce Lori
There is something going on. Either they promised not to blame each other if they got caught or Lori thought by not blaming him at her trial, he'd extend the same courtesy. Their lawyers were working together at one point until Judge Boyce ordered them to do separate.
Good theory but they weren't allowed to communicate after Chad was arrested. Maybe they have "portals" in their cells? 😂 There isn't anyone left who could be their proxy either.
I think Lori is still under his spell, but Chad is out for Chad & has no problem blaming everything on that man-eating vixon. 🙄
Watch every day from Maine. Thanks for what you are doing.
Everyone that keeps asking why Charles isn’t remembered: he is obviously remembered but this is not his trial. His trial is in AZ and will be remembered every courtroom insider for that one.
It sounds to me like Melanie Palowski needs to be investigated. If I heard correctly, she was in on calling her own children dark!!! She told her daughter about it and she was ok with it??????????????????????? They should not let this go. Everyone that participated in this insanity needs to answer for their parts in this insanity!!! If not, they will do it again.
I totally agree. But sadly, I think Lori and the slug are the only ones they are to get and they will let the rest go.
The other women were given immunity for their testimonies
She needs to go to jail for what she said about her kids and Brandon alone.
I believe she should be tried for Brandon's attempted murder trial...at least as a conspirator.
She lost custody of her kids forever.
54:38 Adam Cox stated on his podcast Silver Linings, that he believes his brother Alex would have spilled everything if he had been caught, no doubt in his mind. Just some food for thought in answer to your question, Nate.
Hello Nate! Thank you for explaining all of this testimony from Zulema. I agree with you that it is baffling how they could remember all of this insane information! I am actually glad the Zulema took all of these notes - otherwise, we would probably never know what they believed in. Thank you for following this case from day one. The people involved are numerous, unlike most cases and it is/has taken so much time out of your life and away from your family. Again, thank you, Nate and East Idaho News!
Watching from Guam, USA, and have been watching the story from East Idaho News since last year.
Surprising how a woman who’s so ill with heart trouble is left to empty her car on the drive herself when she gets home !
I have to do it a few times a week and I’m very I’ll. It takes everything to do it and I’m not that old. But I do live alone so. Lol
Brilliant stuff Nate, thankyou ❤
I've been watching every day from New Zealand. Your coverage is great and so thorough.
Watching from Philippines, keep up the good work Nate. Always looking forward for your updates
I heard the burp, Nate. It was top notch; no SHAME! XX Thank you for all you do and have done on this case for years! You are appreciated for your coverage/continued coverage! XX
Thanks for walking us through courtroom layout. Watching for Iowa.
I think they wanted Alex to get rid of Zulema…Alex spared her, Chad and Lorie were pissed and started to treat Alex badly. She really lucked out. Lorie was probably berating him on the phone for screwing things up again and calling him a moron.
Theory is she was mad because he missed when shooting at Tammy.
So true, Zulema dodged the bullet. So much death as of it wasn’t a big deal because everyone received so many multiple lives. …like it doesn’t count!
I'm wondering if Alex didn't want to kill anyone at all but agreed to help dispose the corpses. Especially after hearing about Zulema's massage from him.
@@Peaceful-Sheep - Good point. He screwed up every time, and it looks like Lori had to suffocate JJ herself. But it does sound like he was involved in cleaning up the bodies.
Zulema did a very good job today. She handled Prior better than many of the others. I hope the victims’ family are ok with this because I think Zulema’s testimony may be what tips the scales of Justice toward GUILTY on all counts.
It was interesting to watch Daybell’s demeanor as Zulema testified. He starts out sitting straight & tall as he has done before. By the end, he is slumped in his chair, shrinking into himself (probably trying to be as small as possible so the jury won’t see him).
Why doesn’t the State just parade Christina,Serena and Nicole through the witness stand and confirm the things Zulema is saying? That’ll shut Prior up. I don’t blame the jury for being in a “We’re over it” status with Prior. He is trying every angle to get his client off and it’s becoming tiresome and predictable. You cannot refute facts and truth.
Let’s all pray for a guilty verdict on June 9 !!!
I cannot say enough about Judge Boyce. Wow !!! His grasp of the law and ability to stay engaged and focused during lengthy, sometimes tedious testimony (much of which he has heard already and some of it TWICE) is amazing !!! I would love to sit down and have a conversation with him … about things other than this case or even the law. He must be incredibly intelligent, aware and articulate. So much to admire about this human being.
I’d also love to sit down and have a conversation with Ms. Blake. She is AMAZING !!!!!!
June 9? Let's just pray for a guilty verdict no matter what day the verdict comes in, shall we?!?
Hi Nate, I was literally crying when the part of JJ body Tylee my thought immediately that fact Chad shows no sign of remorse makes me so angry.
I don't understand trying to say Melanie Gibb was actively involved in the murders. Even if she was that doesn't make Chad innocent.
he's trying to give the impression everything was orchestrated by Lori and Chad was just following orders. if they could prove he was "brainwashed" by Lori he wouldn't get the death penalty. that's really the only thing he could hope for at this point.
I think she was involved. But that doesn't mean for a second that Deadbell wasn't.
Exactly! Honestly regardless of they were involved in the actual murders, they are ALL guilty of letting them happen and they need to be in prison.
@@xyz12345457 What? I didn't even know this case until I first heard about it on the news in January 2020. What are you even talking about????
@@xyz12345457 I meant Zulema and I do think that Melanie Gibb knew more than she was letting on. She ADMITTED on that phone call that she KNEW Charles was going to die and TOLD that other woman "You KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO ZOMBIES?" She knew those people were going to die!!!! And you're telling me that she didn't know??!! Bullcrap!!! Go listen to that phone call before you spout off some nonsense about her not knowing and the call proving she was innocent. Give me a break. Peace out!!!
Much gratitude for sharing the courtroom layout!!🙏💙. Really helps. Totally different than I thought.
Nate, thanks for your always interesting and inclusive coverage. Regarding the cough.....I think the world has it! LOL. I am in East Coast Canada and have had it for two weeks now, as do many of my friends and family. Feel better soon and thanks again for your amazing coverage. PS: I look forward to your interview with the court stenographers....I always wondered how they use those little machines. Prayers for Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ.
I'm a court reporter. Think of our machine like a piano. A combination of keys can mean many things, including commonly said phrases like: State your full name; I don't recall; in your own words; beyond a reasonable doubt, etc., etc.
A simple name such as the name Jim on our machine would be SKWR*EUPL, which seems like a lot, but that is all getting taken down amongst several fingers within one keystroke versus three -- J-i-m -- on an actual typewriter.
Nate we thank you for reporting on this case so much hard work that you have done and time away from your family! We thank your wife Erica and your children for letting you do allthe extra work needed for you to report on this case! Love to you all ❤❤❤from AKRON, OHIO 😊😊😊
Kathy in Missouri here, so Melanie P. Lied to Chad's attorney. She had no knowledge of the 7 gatherers but Zulema named her as part of the group
Both Melanies "lied" then, if you will. It is also possible they may not have remembered after all these years.
They "forgot" 😂
I think it’s awesome that you are being real! We all get sick and we all burp! Thank you for all you do!!
Chad did NOT like Zulema talking about Lori holding Chad’s hand, physically intimate, etc.” in AZ after Charles was shot. He frowned, shook his head and started writing notes for his atty 🧐😤😆
well spotted.
I can’t get past Zulema saying that she had “visions” telling her that she should “protect Lori”. Holy smokes! I kept waiting for her to say “I certainly know now that this was delusional!” I’m sorry. I found her to be kind of a dim bulb.
Zulema certainly seems immature and gullible.
Zulie basically admitted in Lori's trial that she's gullible.
Did you see her testimony in Lori’s trial? I feel she has come a long way. I think she has been through intense counseling and healing for insecurity/ lack of confidence /low self worth
I missed her testimony in Lori’s trial. I very much hope she had had some help after because by drawn into that fantasy world. I can just hear Chad on the phone with her, telling he all about her past lives, and being pleased with himself that he can choose the right people for his little cult world.
Alex Cox's sudden passing seems like the most incredible example of poetic justice. A true act of God.
Coward should have stayed alive and not poisoned himself to exact real justice, another dp case.
I wouldn't be surprised he bought something in Mexico to kill himself. He was cremated.
@@alicialockard5964I must agree
@@alicialockard5964 Right
@@alicialockard5964 has it been proven he poisoned himself? Autopsy stated it was natural causes.
Hi Nate. I am watching from Walla Walla Washington. Great job on reporting this trial.
You said that jurors looked tired of Priors line of questioning over and over but nothing against Prior. I can't imagine anyone not be annoyed at him. He doesn't listen to the judge or the objections that are sustained. He asks the same question over and over. I think he's horrible!! He might be a nice person in person but as an attorney no.
Well, the damn judge keeps letting him get away with it. Neither act like professionals.
And he body shamed poor Tammy and he is the size of a house.
Thanks for the diagram of the courtroom Nate! That is so cool and helpful!
I find it more and more hilarious every time Nate pushes the wrong button 😂😂
Nate, great stream! Thank you for doing these recaps for us.
Please get that cough checked out! I’m starting to worry about you!
Much love to you and your family! ❤
Alex was the biggest coward, should have been another case.
Watching from Stillwater MN
Been watching from the beginning of this craziness! Thank you
I am so happy that Zulema said that Alex Cox said to her that he hoped they were not going to use him for their fall guy. Hallelujah! OF COURSE THEY DID. I was afraid the idea would never be introduced.
Fantastic reporting Nate TY TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR SHARING YOU WITH US
Breaks my heart Tammy's children stand behind the monster that took their loving mother from them.
Don't let it get to ya. Maybe you should take a break from this, perhaps get some mental health help, lace up your boot straps
@@MitchT-cj2hgOh, please Mitch. She said it was disheartening not that she needed a mental evaluation for having sympathy for the deceased.
A bunch of dimwits.
She and Chad taught them to honor HIM over her- that’s the Mormon way 🤢
@@MitchT-cj2hgyou’re a drama queen and apparently crave attention.
We appreciate all you do!
In my 82 years I have never seen or heard anything remotely as horrifying as this.
Watching from Atoka, Oklahoma
missed the live but haven't missed a minute of any court or your updates
The jury will bring justice I have faith 🙏
Hello!!! I Live down by Eufaula Dam in Oklahoma !!!!!
Great reporting, Nate!
Ya he's awesome, does a lot of walk on water when he's not reporting
Nate, I’m thinking Chad IS the mastermind and he saw ALL of the players in this as his minions and that they are all idiots.
He didn’t kill HIS kids. Everything that happened benefited Chad. I’m not standing up for Lori or Alex, but Chad was getting everything he ever wanted out of this deal. A “hot" new wife without kids, no more wife to bother him about "career" that was going no where, the adult kids can’t take sides if the one parent is dead instead of a divorce… maybe Chad doesn’t believe in any of this?!
I agree💯 💯 Everything's about Chad.
Absolutely!!! When she described Chad in the middle of the women and all of them sitting around him. He planned on a harem with all these women. ANYONE not pleasing him would die!!
I'm most shocked that Zulema is a Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor. I'm currently utilizing the DVR because of a brain injury. I can't imagine needing job skills and learning that the Counselor who was guiding me was a part of this psycho-loony, woo-woo, crew. 😳
Yeah, they remind me of the Manson family, but instead of being hippies they’re pretending to be godly people.
Zulema was in fact a real good participant in the cult, with all the notes and clear explanations. Chad you are so lost!
Zulema was no victim.
She was one of the 7 Gatherers.
She keeps looking at Chad, like he's still got his hooks in her.
Too many coincidences about Alex, starting with the fact that Adam told the police Alex took off work for a week at a time to "get women" in Central America. Funny, Lori and Chad just so happened to have his type of woman in their back pocket with which to reward his service. 🙄
Then there are the coincidences surrounding his death. 1) He died just as the police were closing in. 2) He died just as he was realizing he was their fall guy. 3) He died from a supposed pulmonary embolism, which was the same thing Chad said Tammy died from. 4) Zulema was in a position to have Alex cremated, so he couldn't be exhumed later. Lori, Chad, and Melani talked about it in one of Ian's recordings - which, by the way, was also the only recording they all giggled through Chad's blessing. Alex trusted Zulema enough to tell her he thought he was their fall guy. I bet he trusted her enough to eat her food and drink her beverages as well.
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Nobody said she was a victim
@@bean6157 It was implied when Nate was talking about the massage.
@@bean6157 The OP is responding to a question from Nate about Zulema being a victim and they just said no. We're not saying anybody is treating her as innocent. We're just giving answers. That's all.
The “nosy” neighbor (not my thought but a quote from Chad) also died of a pulmonary embolism after walking near the “pet cemetery”. He got too close 😠😫🤬
Thank you, Nate, for your great summary every day of this case. I don’t sit and watch it all day long because it’s very boring and it’s hard to understand what the witnesses are saying. So when I see your show, I can put on the closed caption and can understand when you show videos from the court. Your summations allow me do not have to sit there for hours listening to a lot of really boring stuff. Lol.
Cheering for your great coverage from Powhatan, Virginia.
Pohantan I have wonderful memories of being there twice for timeshare vacations. I miss Virginia ❤
@@Loves_three_kitties You were probably at Powhatan Plantation, which is east of us near Williamsburg. Powhatan County is quite rural-we wouldn’t know a timeshare from a plowshare! Virginia is truly a beautiful state. I’m really a Carolina girl, but being exiled to Virginia is lovely.
Nate, I watch every night while I am on dialysis. I appreciate that you report the straight story not add your “spin”. One day I would love to hear your personal opinion of all this . Here is a thought about how Chad and Lori knew about Tammy’s exhumation. Chad used to work for the Springville cemetery. Is it possible that they (cemetery) knew in advance and someone tipped Chad off as to what was going down.? The cemetery would most likely be informed to make sure there would not be a conflicting funeral going on at the same time. Just a thought
You make a valid point! I wonder if Chad was privy to ALL of the going-ons at the cemetery, considering his association.
I wish you all the best of care during your dialysis. My mother was on dialysis for 6 years. I have an idea how exhausting dialysis can be for kidney patients.
Someone in Tammy's family worked in law enforcement. It may have came through the grapevine. @janeheupel4736 sending good vibes and prayers to you❤
Zulema and Melani traded hair colors.
No they’re both trying to HIDE, the way Alex wanted to take Zulema’s last name to hide from the police. Not one of these people is the sharpest knife in the drawer.
My thought exactly. Trying to keep from being identified by any crazed paintball shooters
And Melanie is watching it all 3D- lmao! We wont recognize her in those glasses will we?!!
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Yup they’re in disguise so they could avoid the h@te outside of the courtroom and in life in general. Now they have to change again.
Replay crew from L.A.. This cult is complicated!
I thought she was the best witness, she remembered so much info, unlike both the Melanie's
Both Melanies’ remembered, they just ignored the memories.
Does Chad still have friends at the cemetery? Someone from there could have told Chad that Tammy was being exhumed.
Does Chad have friends??
Maybe Chad's attorney was notified. Maybe because Ian was taping them, to see if they would talk about it and incriminate themselves. Or maybe Chad being the spouse was notified but he kept it quiet from the kids.
Gar!!! It’s Zulema’s turn!!!!!! NOOOOO!!!!!
I always feel like I lose soooo many brain cells whenever I’m subjected to this woman’s confounding account of things. What a dull bloody bulb she was / is!!
I think my cognitive ability has only just recovered since enduring her testimony at Lori’s trial!
Yet, I can’t look away!!!! I must be such a dark one!!!!
Thanks again Nate. More greetings from Australia! 🇦🇺
Me too. And her baby voice and umm, umm ummmm isn't fooling me a bit. Zulem-um-um-um-um is just as twisted as the rest of the freaks in this case.
@@marylizakowski706 yep. She was obviously so desperate for belonging and significance. She didn’t stand a chance with L and C.
I mean, who, in their right mind, would submit to a massage - on a heavy plastic drop sheet - in a hotel room that’s a short drive away from a desert - from a guy who had shot hit brother in law and shot at Brandon in the last 6 months… and whose niece and nephew are actually missing?!!!
Between the Chad Daybell /Lori Vallow Daybell unalivings, and the recent self unaliving of Mica Miller, the young South Carolina pastor's wife in North Carolina, I am sick of twisted religion stealing people's lives. 😢💔🕯️🕊️
Let's not forget ruby Franke and Jodi hildabrant crock of religious bullshit
You should check out the Freedom From Religion Foundation (assuming you're American). They help try to keep all this religious zealotry nonsense out of our schools and government, which is vital to personal freedom!
Thank you Nate for your daily updates....watching from Scotland.
Thanks for your coverage
Best witness so far putting Chad in prison for life. I hope she learned from this.
Lindsay Blake is great but so is Rob Woods. Let’s give him credit too!
Anyone hear an echo when either Zulema or ms Blake speak?..strange..😮
Are you ok not smoking anything or anything right
It’s the vibrations
It happens when Nate doesn’t mute his mic while playing the videos, he notices a lot of the time and you can hear the click of him muting his mic and then the echo goes away. I’m sorry people are being weird to you in response
@@MitchT-cj2hgha ha ha 😂😅😊just sayin!
Thank you Nate. Praying for that gnarly congestion in your cough. Tell Chad I hear that the electric chair has a lot of vibration. I can't say by experience however I've heard about it.