**7.15.2021 Update** First off, thanks for watching. I had no idea that my videos would gain any sort of following. I initially did this as a side thing during the Covid 19 Pandemic as I had a lot of free time off from my job. I took up learning Video Editing Using a free program (DaVinci Resolve) and I enjoyed editing so much that I decided to make GW2 videos for my friends and Guildies. Some of you have seen me in game and said Hello which I find is a very cool feeling and I appreciate it. If any viewers find this note, I am currently not working on any videos right now. Arena Net is currently in the process of Fine Tuning/Balancing classes for the upcoming expansion so it would be wasted when a new patch comes and completely invalidates Build Videos. I am still active and will respond to every comment in any of my videos. I will also find time again to make videos once the new Expansion launches. Thank you!
Great video showcasing the strengths of scourge! Necromancer has been one of my favorites since I started in GW1 and I'm glad it is still going strong. For anyone watching this now, scourge has had some minor tweaks but all of this is still relevant save the torment change in the video description.
Just got back into the game after a long break; been wanting to try out Scourge and this video has been super helpful! Fuffing about with Rabid gear until I can get my hands on more Viper items and working on ascended weapons/armour! Thanks a lot for taking the time to show off Scourge!
Mirage and Renegade/Herald with the right build is invincible. And it applied for all contents. The reason why most people uses Trailblaizer Gears is that it helps you survive while soloing Legendary Mobs/Bounties and some Meta Event Bosses. If you watch Lord Hizen you should know why he chooses to go more defensive with a decent dps. I am playing a Rene/Herald Trailblazer (FULL) and with that much toughness and vitality I still deal more than 11k dps while soloing Bosses, same goes for Mirage.
@@frostdracohardstyle if you can deal more than 10k dps while standing still with viper set against legendary bounty boss then record that and then you can say that I am a noob
Yeah, just one word. Excellent. Awesome. Incredible. You name it. Top tier presentation. Top tier explanation. Top tier quality content. Every topic checked. Oh, and the music. Keep it up, you're amazing ^^
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you have just gained a sub, this video is sexy. the information was so clear and the point was show nicely. The gameplay was also shown really well. Thanks for the video.
hey i just saw your video! what an amazing showcase and presentation! i am just curious what is an up to date build of your liking is usable at the moment? can you please share?
Top notch explination of the little quirks of the mighty Scourge. I never knew scepter 1 atttacks weren't counted as projectiles or ranged attacks. Definitely going to give this build a go!
Both Condi Rev and Condi Scourge is my PvE main. But Condi Herald/Renegade with full trailblazer and tormenting rune is better than Scourge in my opinion since you can solo high level fractal bosses with it. Still Scourge is way easier to play.
i have been playing reaper for a while now and loved it, but when i found this video and seeing you jump that first group at 7.10 i was sold, i now changed to scourge and not looking back.
Ha, sorry for the late response and thanks for watching! Reaper is fun to use but when you get CC'd by groups it feels like molasses. Scourge definitely has better group control and condition cleanse.
Hell yeah, I was delaying making a necromancer for a while, simply because I didn't know how I would make it look, and if it would be fun content wise, but you definetly convinced me to make one and try this
i've never been interested to scourge until I saw this video. Well done! I have a reaper but I think I'll collect more HP to get the scourge spec and follow this build. I just need a great PVE class.
Hello, new player here. Still finishing up PoF and trying to get hero points. Is this a good starter elite spec? Or is reaper much easier to gear/play? Undecide on which elite spec to choose first
Hello, sorry for the late response. For solo scenarios I don't recommend using Blood is Power and Plague Sending. The reason is because Blood is Power can mess up your Nefarious Favor (F2) skill when cleansing conditions. Plague Lands Trait helps with this but you lose out on Insidious Disruption (Scourge has a lot of disables readily available). You also need to use Blood is Power twice for efficiency, locking you in an awkward state if something disables you. Last Reason is because Blood is Power yields no Life Force. Scourge needs a lot of Life Force to maintain Sand Shades, that is why I opt for Desiccate instead. I use Ghastly Breach instead of Plague Lands because it has a lower cooldown, boon conversion, and gives might stacks. It also is a Punishment Skill so it will proc Sadistic Searing Trait. Plague Lands will deal more damage overall if the enemy stays in the damage zone.
Tried this recently and maybe I'm playing it wrong or I got the wrong gear but my shields give me like 1,000-2,000 rather than tons so I can't solo some champions.
Sorry for the late response. The latest patch only made Scourge stronger. The build I use is already very damage oriented so I wouldn't change anything.
Truth be told there is nothing bad with going full trailblazer Or mix like half of it in Your main damage is condi anyway and there it is nearly identical Scourge/necro is one of the few classes you can get away with going full zerker/viper and still have decent survivability But most other players on othee classes dont get it - it does not matter if you can do lots of damage if you cannot stay on your feet And thats not a matter of skill; if you are better at the game and your class you can stay alive longer but there is always a limit And pure damage builds are nearly always spected for group content; never towards solo play And thats the reason why this is so awesome
What a great video.. You took time to make it and it was worth it. I'm still getting the hang of scourge. I know it can do well but the style gets boring for me at times since you're just casting spells on the ground and wait for things to die. But after seeing you using the "Spectral Grasp" that looks like the game changer for me. Because with scourge, it is very annoying to "CHASE" enemies.
yesterday we were doing a bounty with random people until it became legendary and many people were dying and i use F4 to gather them up + with the bonus of fast revive (from trait), and at the end they said " nerf scourge!!" i was like, :D
@@ROCKNROLL947 Aren't they all overpowered though if you know how to play them well?I can solo any bounty on my Staff Mirage whilst most others were dying. I have been practicing staff mirage for years so I have mastered it. I think people should just learn to master their class before shouting 'nerf!"
does this still work? tormenting runes changed in feb 2022 so i assume this isn't as good now? if there are changes needed please let us know etc? thanks in advance
I just recently switched from reaper to scourge exactly because of durability issue, glad to see i didnt wasted materials to switch the stats. The only problem i still have is the accessories...most of those or alternative ones require a lot of currency from LW
Another problem is the fact that my dots dont really reach high damage in short time, they usually stack up to 10 and just deal 800-1200 each one which tbh its low
i just have a question: you're using a staff too right? i've seen the staff skill set and is not really much of condition damage for scourge so... let's say im gonna use it, what do i use it for?
Hey there, for soloing hard content I use this build most of the time: gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAs+ZlNweYasNmJWaX+PTA-zRRYfBZYGdc5FSmhQuJQHVg3Xgw1DvFdPrA-e Things to note: Parasitic Contagion for the extra Life Steal, Soul Marks to generate Life Force when having Staff out, Fear of Death for breaking big Defiance Bars, and Desert Empowerment for free Barriers on casting Sand Shade (F1). We can take Plague Sending instead of Insidious Disruption for extra Condition Cleanse if Staff (4) doesn't fancy you very well. I also have a small guide on the Scourge I play if you want to check it out. th-cam.com/video/iYwDC3LU-ME/w-d-xo.html
@@user-yk8pc7fy3l Since the update, a lot of Visual UI is broken I've noticed but overall the Torment and Break Bar Changes did increase Scourge's damage by a lot. I personally thought it was good for open world already but now it's even better.
Wow!! I just found your channel and you make me want to play a scourge. Good information, good presentation good music! So next balance patch is a buff to scourge, right?
Sorry for the late reply. As Jefferson stated, Soul Barbs is no longer just Strike Damage bonus. Desert Shroud (F5) skill acts as your "Shroud". It procs Soul Barbs for the damage boost.
The May 11, 2021 patch will effectively make Condition classes much stronger now. Scourge will get a great increase in damage due to Torment behaving differently now.
Sorry for the late response. As Jefferson mentioned, you can use any rune that gives condition damage/duration. You'll miss out on the additional Life Steal but have more damage. You can remedy this by always taking Parastic Contagion trait instead of Devouring Darkness.
Just started playing PoF. Gonna set this up as soon as possible. Gotta pause the video to figure out what all that gear is I guess? I haven’t played in a while and everything is so different . Anyone able to list the Sigils and runes and crap for a returning player ?
Sorry I don't speak much Spanish but with the power of Google Translate I can link you to my short build video: Lo siento, no hablo mucho español, pero con el poder de Google Translate puedo vincularte a mi breve video de compilación: th-cam.com/video/iYwDC3LU-ME/w-d-xo.html
I have been playing a LOT of scourge lately, you have any tips for smoothing out life force? Sometimes I feel like I have none and other times I feel like I have TOO much
Life Force scales with Vitality so increases Vitality is a solid, quick solution. If you don't want to go that route I usually switch Desiccate for Signet of Undeath for the passive Life Force Generation. Scepter (3) gives a decent chunk of Life Force and Torch (4) gives Life Force depending on how many targets it hit. Last, Spectral Grasp gives a ton of Life Force for grabbing 2+ enemies.
It may require some tweaking. The recovery of Rune of Tormenting got nerfed hard. It's still ok, but it's not the clearly best in slot rune it was. Parasitic Contagion got nerfed as well so the overall self healing that allowed this build to run otherwise glass canon may need to be reconsidered. There are a number of other options to play around with though. I'm personally running my regular viper armor with Rune of Nightmare, Viper Scepter and Torch (or dagger) with Torment/Bursting sigils, and Trailblazer Staff with Energy/Cleansing sigils, Trailblazer neck, back, and rings, and viper accessories. So far I haven't found anything I could solo prior to the nerfs that I can't still handle. If the damage gets real go with a minion scourge build and switch in blood and death magic with the default over land pet loadout to really maximize your self healing and tankyness. And if you just wanna go full tank, go ahead and put together a trailblazer setup with Rune of Undead. You can also run a dagger mainhand on your backbar. The 2 skill is a pretty significant heal on demand, but you're going to sacrifice damage when on the main hand dagger bar. TLDR: Overall this video is still accurate for demonstrating the playstyle and capabilities of scourge, but the loss of sustain with the Torment and Parasitic Contagion nerf may require you to evaluate your build a bit and include pieces of those defensive sets the video states you do not need.
Great video. Here's my two cents and a little bit of resistance: Parasitic Contagion is solid against a ton of trash, but not so awesome against single targets even when you're pumping out tons of condi. Barrier is only awesome if you _make_ it awesome by sacrificing other desirable choices. The CDs on manifest, cascade and shroud aren't bad, but they're long enough that some care needs employment. While I'm not complaining, the CDs are probably where they should be, this simply means at the end of the day other builds do have a slight leg up on easy mode sustain and situational 'not-on-cd' response abilities. ((Edit: nvm, about parasitic Cont. I see you're not running that, you're getting your hots from torm rune.)) Though it's not a giant problem that can't be worked around, I don't like scourge's fundamental concept of pairing torment with shades. At the heart of the class, you're simultaneously encouraged AND _discouraged_ to kite. Doable, but it really undermines the overall "feel/flow" of the class. For challenging content I usually go raid-boss base necro build and camp shroud. Being a low-stab build, the only time this doesn't work is if I'm getting more than 3 interrupts a second in conjunction with heavy hits. Like that time two vet canids showed up on Leg Olori. :p ...Granted, this build only does moderate dmg but is actually enough for most open world scenarios and only has timer issues in the most singular of cases. Also, if one of your aims is to never waste time popping a heal skill, you might try running sig o vampirism. Unless you just want that higher hitting 'oh shit' button. All that said, I've been sufficiently inspired to screw around a bit more with scourge. I used to play scourge a lot but have leaned toward base/reaper a lot lately. (Sidebar: Somebody has to inform the entire game's player base that you don't have to stay in melee for exploiter. Just get the buff and move back out. It lasts a good while. I seem to be the only player I've seen who understands this and I'm a trash-ass idiot, so c'mon folks.) ;)
Any chance you can give a quick outline of your "raid-boss" necro build? Been trying to build something similar that camps shroud and I'm having only limited success. TIA.
Minions are a great way to survive solo open world. Parasitic Contagion and proper condition application isn't for everyone but the beauty of Necromancer is that the class is built for solo scenarios.
Im really new to this game and have necro but im only lvl 45 , but idk how to deal efficient condi dmg early on , i really love condi would even change the whole build for a good condi class/build could you help me out maybe would appreciate it alot
Hey there, sorry for the late response. Condition Damage is generally a late game build. Early Condition builds lake the stat Expertise. Expertise increases condition duration and a majority of condition damage comes from stacking conditions on top of more conditions. If your conditions expire before you add more ontop, they will deal low-mediocre damage. I recommend using a Power build to level up then switching over to Condition. If you really love condition damage and enjoy leveling up with it, you can use Dire gear and build for bleeding duration, use Scepter/Dagger.
great guide, but scourge necro in general has conditions unique to it's class with the same condition based weapons that ele mesmer guardian would get and more , that said, with harbinger, scourge can burst torment for upwards of 50k on 1shroud skill 5. then continue to another 50k in a matter of seconds on sceptor torch and a single punishment skill, the only variance with minimal might stacks. utilizing a single condition to burst is what scourge excells at, heh n ppl cry about lack of burn or other condis. this build has 10 sources of torment bursting before weapon swapping(4 of which are punishment skills) no other class has 10 ways of duration reapplication of a single condition in this manner. scourge can inflict torment infinitely. as your sand shades expire, your utilities are off cooldown n vice versa even if using harbinger shroud::::rinse repeat:::: there's always torment on the target, ideally if there's sand shades up. condi cleansing is nothing fighting a scourge. scourge is both a stronger minion mancer due to 3 extra shades, and a deathshroud necro due to "barrier." scourge becomes stronger in respect, but still in it's true form. those that would otherwise complain or compare its condition s afflictions to say burn guardian would be idiots, but to torment would be wise - no other class excells at torment.
I agree! Scourge has the easiest ways to apply Torment to multiple targets, making it one of the strongest solo classes out there. Not only is it strong but it can easily "farm enemies/events" due to having the ability to attack from different areas and angles at once.
No you do not. I personally use staff just for the Utility. Staff is great when open world soloing as it has access to a variety of utilities including Fear and a Condition Transfer. Primarily for Scourge you're just using on weapon set (Scepter/Torch) 90% of the time. A lot of people like to use Dagger off hand swap in order to continue stacking bleeding with Scepter Autos.
@@silkyonyen9223 Thank you. I just hit level 80 and bought Dire armour until I can afford the proper gear. Struggling a little with the build. I need more practice.
Yes please! I was going to ask this as well. I’m curious what trait lines you take as a standard. It should be easy to figure out from there what to swap for specific encounters
Sorry for the late reply. The Build I use is this for casual open world: gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAs+ZlVweYQsNmJW6X1PVA-zRRYfBZYGdc5FSmhQuJQHVg3Xgw1DvFdPrA-e This for soloing Champions gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAs+ZlNweYasNmJWaX+PTA-zRRYfBZYGdc5FSmhQuJQHVg3Xgw1DvFdPrA-e It's the same equipment with just Traits switched around.
i play revenant renegade in pve and it has a lot of AoE with high dps and self healing. i haven't done raids but it does amazing in solo open world pve stuff. and the combat is really fun too so i'd recommend u give it a shot
@@silkyonyen9223 Hehe no worries! Too late though as I went with necromancer as first class. Just enjoyed the theme of the class a lot and reaper is also great fun!
@@silkyonyen9223 Out of curiosity, do you lose a lot of dps, using tormenting runes over for example lich runes? And do you require different weapon sigils? Ideally I want to use the same viper set for fractals and my solo play? I also want to try and solo a fractal which is why the additional sustain would be welcome I guess but if the cost of dps is too high that it affects group play, I guess I have to build a second set? Have you tried this by any chance and do you run different sigils with tormenting runes?
Hello i want to if you can do a video on support scourge i know that scourge cappable of most of it solo but i just want to be a good friend and support my teammates so yeah i hope you read my comment and i like your video sorry for my bad english ✌️
Hey! Support Scourge is great, I have a build template I use frequently for World Bosses with it. There are already plenty of Support Scourge videos out there though so I don't know if I could add anymore to them.
Yeeeeah this is fine and all. But do you really need a best class for something as trivial as open world content I can run most of it in power gear on a condition character.
I dont necessarly get the point of clearing out the "best class" if u can play your class incredibly well u can solo pretty much any content that doesnt require 50 ppl+ surely this is nice to see but as someone who hates dots/to rely on them i can honestly say that i am one of those reapers xd just prefering raw dmg over dmg over time. Everyones own thing though everyone should play how he/she wants incase... My comment sounds a bit offensive. Still good vid
Tell this to my guardian. It can do a lot of damage in both power and condi specs but he is squishy AF and can take literally no damage in face at all not even from veteran lvl mobs in HoT or PoF locations (esp in bloodstone maw or bitterfrost frontier) I have full viper and full berserker half exotic/ascended gear and compare to my necro its ridiculously pathetic (in same gear). It is so squishy garbage that i actually forced to use other class in dlc locations to farm even if i very much enjoy utility of guardian. So as guardian your skill mean literally nothing to mobs that hits you for 1/4 of your hp with every hit. Its out of my mind how fucking paladin in HEAVY armor can be two-three times more squishy then wever aka weak mage in fucking rags with same stats gear. What's even a point in heavy armor then?
@@misterv2899 to be fair atleast in its current state (as weaver main for PvP and PvE) i feel more like weaver can be played as hard dps or Immortal tank with some condis bursting/fire weaver. I guess its well definitely a difference between having 26 skills to utilize buffs defensive and offensive abilitities then by having 10 max with both weps ofc not to leave out the 5 utility skills every class has. And imo the Tankyness of weaver is sorta a reward for playing the piano on your Keyboard since most likely if u dont know what youre doing youll just die again and again... I love soloing group content with it even managed to pop one raid solo.
condi scourges are the lowest DDs in organized pve? what the hell have you been smoking, that's as incorrect as incorrect can get the only things that can *consistently* keep me below #1 on the pump charts are the 1 button rifle mech and the 1 button bladesworn (assuming*** they hit their dragon slashes) and condi untamed but i've ever only seen somebody play that ONCE
7:00 can somebody tell me do i need those exact items or i just need like the "effects??" "bonuses??" whatever they're called? i have no idea what is going on with those items
Hey thanks for watching and sorry for this late response. The Items I use are all Viper's Gear (Major Stats in Power, Condition Damage. Minor Stats in Precision and Expertise), and Two Rings that are are Sinister (Major Stat Condition Damage, Minor Stat in Power and Precision). The reason why I take Two Sinister Rings is because it helps me hit above 50% Critical Hit Rate with traits included. I use Superior Rune of Tormenting primarily for the 6th effect that adds great sustain. The Weapon Sigils I use are Superior Sigil of Torment for added AoE Torment application on critical hits and Superior Sigil of Bursting for more Condition Damage. That's basically all there is to the gear. I also made a short guide on Viper Scourge as one of my first videos if you need more information.
**7.15.2021 Update** First off, thanks for watching. I had no idea that my videos would gain any sort of following. I initially did this as a side thing during the Covid 19 Pandemic as I had a lot of free time off from my job. I took up learning Video Editing Using a free program (DaVinci Resolve) and I enjoyed editing so much that I decided to make GW2 videos for my friends and Guildies. Some of you have seen me in game and said Hello which I find is a very cool feeling and I appreciate it.
If any viewers find this note, I am currently not working on any videos right now. Arena Net is currently in the process of Fine Tuning/Balancing classes for the upcoming expansion so it would be wasted when a new patch comes and completely invalidates Build Videos. I am still active and will respond to every comment in any of my videos. I will also find time again to make videos once the new Expansion launches. Thank you!
Great video showcasing the strengths of scourge! Necromancer has been one of my favorites since I started in GW1 and I'm glad it is still going strong.
For anyone watching this now, scourge has had some minor tweaks but all of this is still relevant save the torment change in the video description.
Just got back into the game after a long break; been wanting to try out Scourge and this video has been super helpful! Fuffing about with Rabid gear until I can get my hands on more Viper items and working on ascended weapons/armour! Thanks a lot for taking the time to show off Scourge!
aaaand it's about to be even better with the whole torment change. (damage doubling up on stationary targets)
Can't imagine how high the price of tormenting runes will go after that.
Another great video Silkyon!
Thank you for taking the time to make these :)
Really like the guide, it’s really insightful. You also write clearly and concisely. Also, good choice of music!
Severely underrated video. Great job
Mirage and Renegade/Herald with the right build is invincible. And it applied for all contents. The reason why most people uses Trailblaizer Gears is that it helps you survive while soloing Legendary Mobs/Bounties and some Meta Event Bosses. If you watch Lord Hizen you should know why he chooses to go more defensive with a decent dps. I am playing a Rene/Herald Trailblazer (FULL) and with that much toughness and vitality I still deal more than 11k dps while soloing Bosses, same goes for Mirage.
BUILD HERALD PLEASE
What Mirage build?
@@Sarcaustik you can check Lord Hizen Mirage Build Solo Pve you will see how powerful the class is in open world
When you are good you dont need trailblazer, you just run full viper.
@@frostdracohardstyle if you can deal more than 10k dps while standing still with viper set against legendary bounty boss then record that and then you can say that I am a noob
Builds I want to see the most please!! You make the best.
1: Renegade
2: Weaver
3: Chronomancer
Yeah, just one word. Excellent. Awesome. Incredible. You name it. Top tier presentation. Top tier explanation. Top tier quality content. Every topic checked. Oh, and the music. Keep it up, you're amazing ^^
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They don't even speak its not quality lol
you have just gained a sub, this video is sexy. the information was so clear and the point was show nicely. The gameplay was also shown really well. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for taking the time to compile this video!
I enjoyed making these videos! Thanks for watching.
what do you think about celestial equipment in this build?
Amazing vidéo with amazing music !
Thanks !
hey i just saw your video! what an amazing showcase and presentation! i am just curious what is an up to date build of your liking is usable at the moment? can you please share?
Top notch explination of the little quirks of the mighty Scourge. I never knew scepter 1 atttacks weren't counted as projectiles or ranged attacks. Definitely going to give this build a go!
Both Condi Rev and Condi Scourge is my PvE main. But Condi Herald/Renegade with full trailblazer and tormenting rune is better than Scourge in my opinion since you can solo high level fractal bosses with it. Still Scourge is way easier to play.
BUILD HERALD PLEASE
condi scourge in trailblazer viper mix can solo 100 cm fractals bosses heck reaper can do it , it just takes forever ...
@@cjttruelife You can mix a few pieces of tb gear into your viper set, but don't ever throw a few pieces of viper into your tb set.
Bless algorithm for beseeching me upon this gem. I actually really want to make one now!
i have been playing reaper for a while now and loved it, but when i found this video and seeing you jump that first group at 7.10 i was sold, i now changed to scourge and not looking back.
Ha, sorry for the late response and thanks for watching! Reaper is fun to use but when you get CC'd by groups it feels like molasses. Scourge definitely has better group control and condition cleanse.
Wow, thanks for sharing. I will definitely try this build
This is a great video! Lots of detailed explanations, this will help a lot of Necro players. Oh and btw, I'm your 100th sub, nice.
Hell yeah, I was delaying making a necromancer for a while, simply because I didn't know how I would make it look, and if it would be fun content wise, but you definetly convinced me to make one and try this
Excellent content ! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Bam!
Outdated. Torment effect is inverted. For max torment damage target has to stand still now.
This is a great guide. Thank you so much for this insight into scourge "magic" :)
Thanks for watching!
i've never been interested to scourge until I saw this video. Well done! I have a reaper but I think I'll collect more HP to get the scourge spec and follow this build. I just need a great PVE class.
So no trailblazers? how about celestial stats and how is it with the nerf of superior rune of tormenting
Hello, new player here. Still finishing up PoF and trying to get hero points. Is this a good starter elite spec? Or is reaper much easier to gear/play? Undecide on which elite spec to choose first
Can I use “blood is power” and trait “plague sending”? It seems very strong. Also why do you prefer the scourge’s elite skill over “plaguelands”?
Hello, sorry for the late response. For solo scenarios I don't recommend using Blood is Power and Plague Sending. The reason is because Blood is Power can mess up your Nefarious Favor (F2) skill when cleansing conditions. Plague Lands Trait helps with this but you lose out on Insidious Disruption (Scourge has a lot of disables readily available). You also need to use Blood is Power twice for efficiency, locking you in an awkward state if something disables you. Last Reason is because Blood is Power yields no Life Force. Scourge needs a lot of Life Force to maintain Sand Shades, that is why I opt for Desiccate instead.
I use Ghastly Breach instead of Plague Lands because it has a lower cooldown, boon conversion, and gives might stacks. It also is a Punishment Skill so it will proc Sadistic Searing Trait. Plague Lands will deal more damage overall if the enemy stays in the damage zone.
Tried this recently and maybe I'm playing it wrong or I got the wrong gear but my shields give me like 1,000-2,000 rather than tons so I can't solo some champions.
Great vid! :D a litte question: with the last patch do you suggest some modification to the build or not?
Sorry for the late response. The latest patch only made Scourge stronger. The build I use is already very damage oriented so I wouldn't change anything.
Truth be told there is nothing bad with going full trailblazer
Or mix like half of it in
Your main damage is condi anyway and there it is nearly identical
Scourge/necro is one of the few classes you can get away with going full zerker/viper and still have decent survivability
But most other players on othee classes dont get it - it does not matter if you can do lots of damage if you cannot stay on your feet
And thats not a matter of skill; if you are better at the game and your class you can stay alive longer but there is always a limit
And pure damage builds are nearly always spected for group content; never towards solo play
And thats the reason why this is so awesome
What a great video.. You took time to make it and it was worth it. I'm still getting the hang of scourge. I know it can do well but the style gets boring for me at times since you're just casting spells on the ground and wait for things to die. But after seeing you using the "Spectral Grasp" that looks like the game changer for me. Because with scourge, it is very annoying to "CHASE" enemies.
Yep, Spectral Grasp makes things a lot easier for both Scourge and Reaper
yesterday we were doing a bounty with random people until it became legendary and many people were dying and i use F4 to gather them up + with the bonus of fast revive (from trait), and at the end they said " nerf scourge!!" i was like, :D
Actually is true, is a fun class but totally overpowered
@@ROCKNROLL947 Aren't they all overpowered though if you know how to play them well?I can solo any bounty on my Staff Mirage whilst most others were dying. I have been practicing staff mirage for years so I have mastered it. I think people should just learn to master their class before shouting 'nerf!"
Ok, i'll lvl up my necro to 80 now.
Thank you very much for the video, 1000/10 presentation and explanation.
does this still work? tormenting runes changed in feb 2022 so i assume this isn't as good now? if there are changes needed please let us know etc? thanks in advance
I just recently switched from reaper to scourge exactly because of durability issue, glad to see i didnt wasted materials to switch the stats. The only problem i still have is the accessories...most of those or alternative ones require a lot of currency from LW
Another problem is the fact that my dots dont really reach high damage in short time, they usually stack up to 10 and just deal 800-1200 each one which tbh its low
i just have a question: you're using a staff too right? i've seen the staff skill set and is not really much of condition damage for scourge so... let's say im gonna use it, what do i use it for?
thank you for posting this! Do you ahve a link to the updated build? especially for soloing hard content
Hey there, for soloing hard content I use this build most of the time: gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAs+ZlNweYasNmJWaX+PTA-zRRYfBZYGdc5FSmhQuJQHVg3Xgw1DvFdPrA-e
Things to note: Parasitic Contagion for the extra Life Steal, Soul Marks to generate Life Force when having Staff out, Fear of Death for breaking big Defiance Bars, and Desert Empowerment for free Barriers on casting Sand Shade (F1). We can take Plague Sending instead of Insidious Disruption for extra Condition Cleanse if Staff (4) doesn't fancy you very well. I also have a small guide on the Scourge I play if you want to check it out. th-cam.com/video/iYwDC3LU-ME/w-d-xo.html
@@silkyonyen9223 thank you so much for the extra info! are you excited about the update?
@@user-yk8pc7fy3l Since the update, a lot of Visual UI is broken I've noticed but overall the Torment and Break Bar Changes did increase Scourge's damage by a lot. I personally thought it was good for open world already but now it's even better.
Wow!! I just found your channel and you make me want to play a scourge. Good information, good presentation good music! So next balance patch is a buff to scourge, right?
Hello, sorry for the late reply. Scourge will indeed get a huge damage boost from the May 11, 2021 patch, as well as other condition classes.
Question about the Soul Reaping skills. If Scourge has no shroud why select Soul Barbs for this build? Do sand shades proc the soul barbs?
With the current changes, by using desert shroud skill (F5) u will have 10% power AND condi damage. Boost for 10sec
Sorry for the late reply. As Jefferson stated, Soul Barbs is no longer just Strike Damage bonus. Desert Shroud (F5) skill acts as your "Shroud". It procs Soul Barbs for the damage boost.
How do you think the 5.11 balance changes ( specifically torment) will effect the build?
The May 11, 2021 patch will effectively make Condition classes much stronger now. Scourge will get a great increase in damage due to Torment behaving differently now.
sorry but renegade takes the cake by far. scourge is an easy second though
Can we have a alternative to the Rune of Tormenting? people are going crazy over the price because of the may 11 patch
Rune of the undead, rune of the tempest, rune of nightmare
@@blackcitadel37 ty
Sorry for the late response. As Jefferson mentioned, you can use any rune that gives condition damage/duration. You'll miss out on the additional Life Steal but have more damage. You can remedy this by always taking Parastic Contagion trait instead of Devouring Darkness.
Just started playing PoF. Gonna set this up as soon as possible. Gotta pause the video to figure out what all that gear is I guess? I haven’t played in a while and everything is so different . Anyone able to list the Sigils and runes and crap for a returning player ?
Hola qué tal, cual es el build del source que utilizas para ir en solitario en pve, veo tus vídeos y son muy buenos, saludos desde Perú
Sorry I don't speak much Spanish but with the power of Google Translate I can link you to my short build video:
Lo siento, no hablo mucho español, pero con el poder de Google Translate puedo vincularte a mi breve video de compilación:
th-cam.com/video/iYwDC3LU-ME/w-d-xo.html
My saviour, excellent guides!
I have been playing a LOT of scourge lately, you have any tips for smoothing out life force? Sometimes I feel like I have none and other times I feel like I have TOO much
Life Force scales with Vitality so increases Vitality is a solid, quick solution. If you don't want to go that route I usually switch Desiccate for Signet of Undeath for the passive Life Force Generation. Scepter (3) gives a decent chunk of Life Force and Torch (4) gives Life Force depending on how many targets it hit. Last, Spectral Grasp gives a ton of Life Force for grabbing 2+ enemies.
theres something so satisfying about scourge you just wanna keep playing it. and now my other classes are just unactive
I agree. I like playing the more busy classes. Once you get the gist of it the others feel kind of tame.
Where does the healing come from?
Is Scourge still strong class for storyline/PvE ?
Do you think torment will still be viable after the next big balance patch?
I'd say its gonna be better especially on stationary targets because its damage will be doubled..
Oh yes, Condition Scourge's damage will be boosted a lot with the Torment Changes.
What an excellent guide! 👍🏻
do u think u can do the meta dragonstorm solo with scourge?
Sorry for the late response. For the story instance? Yes you can solo it. For the Open Instance, I haven't tried.
Is this up to date or has the meta shifted significantly ?
It may require some tweaking. The recovery of Rune of Tormenting got nerfed hard. It's still ok, but it's not the clearly best in slot rune it was. Parasitic Contagion got nerfed as well so the overall self healing that allowed this build to run otherwise glass canon may need to be reconsidered. There are a number of other options to play around with though.
I'm personally running my regular viper armor with Rune of Nightmare, Viper Scepter and Torch (or dagger) with Torment/Bursting sigils, and Trailblazer Staff with Energy/Cleansing sigils, Trailblazer neck, back, and rings, and viper accessories. So far I haven't found anything I could solo prior to the nerfs that I can't still handle.
If the damage gets real go with a minion scourge build and switch in blood and death magic with the default over land pet loadout to really maximize your self healing and tankyness.
And if you just wanna go full tank, go ahead and put together a trailblazer setup with Rune of Undead. You can also run a dagger mainhand on your backbar. The 2 skill is a pretty significant heal on demand, but you're going to sacrifice damage when on the main hand dagger bar.
TLDR: Overall this video is still accurate for demonstrating the playstyle and capabilities of scourge, but the loss of sustain with the Torment and Parasitic Contagion nerf may require you to evaluate your build a bit and include pieces of those defensive sets the video states you do not need.
@@22hojo thx for your insides and for taking the time bro !
What about the rotation?
Lord Hizen wants to know your location
so i just Installed Arc DPS, and Scourge is top DPS on Pug WVW, maybe because they are Condi class
have you tried this build on wvw? :V
Great video. Here's my two cents and a little bit of resistance:
Parasitic Contagion is solid against a ton of trash, but not so awesome against single targets even when you're pumping out tons of condi. Barrier is only awesome if you _make_ it awesome by sacrificing other desirable choices. The CDs on manifest, cascade and shroud aren't bad, but they're long enough that some care needs employment. While I'm not complaining, the CDs are probably where they should be, this simply means at the end of the day other builds do have a slight leg up on easy mode sustain and situational 'not-on-cd' response abilities.
((Edit: nvm, about parasitic Cont. I see you're not running that, you're getting your hots from torm rune.))
Though it's not a giant problem that can't be worked around, I don't like scourge's fundamental concept of pairing torment with shades. At the heart of the class, you're simultaneously encouraged AND _discouraged_ to kite. Doable, but it really undermines the overall "feel/flow" of the class.
For challenging content I usually go raid-boss base necro build and camp shroud. Being a low-stab build, the only time this doesn't work is if I'm getting more than 3 interrupts a second in conjunction with heavy hits. Like that time two vet canids showed up on Leg Olori. :p ...Granted, this build only does moderate dmg but is actually enough for most open world scenarios and only has timer issues in the most singular of cases.
Also, if one of your aims is to never waste time popping a heal skill, you might try running sig o vampirism. Unless you just want that higher hitting 'oh shit' button.
All that said, I've been sufficiently inspired to screw around a bit more with scourge. I used to play scourge a lot but have leaned toward base/reaper a lot lately.
(Sidebar: Somebody has to inform the entire game's player base that you don't have to stay in melee for exploiter. Just get the buff and move back out. It lasts a good while. I seem to be the only player I've seen who understands this and I'm a trash-ass idiot, so c'mon folks.) ;)
I had no idea about that exploiter mechanic, thanks!
Any chance you can give a quick outline of your "raid-boss" necro build? Been trying to build something similar that camps shroud and I'm having only limited success. TIA.
Nevermind, the build is much better with the minions version.
Solo i'm having a really hard time keeping alive.
Minions are a great way to survive solo open world. Parasitic Contagion and proper condition application isn't for everyone but the beauty of Necromancer is that the class is built for solo scenarios.
Just one word... Excellent!
Viper It is, i picked a pair of trailblazer's but yeah, visual proof is best proof.
Im really new to this game and have necro but im only lvl 45 , but idk how to deal efficient condi dmg early on , i really love condi would even change the whole build for a good condi class/build could you help me out maybe would appreciate it alot
Hey there, sorry for the late response. Condition Damage is generally a late game build. Early Condition builds lake the stat Expertise. Expertise increases condition duration and a majority of condition damage comes from stacking conditions on top of more conditions. If your conditions expire before you add more ontop, they will deal low-mediocre damage. I recommend using a Power build to level up then switching over to Condition. If you really love condition damage and enjoy leveling up with it, you can use Dire gear and build for bleeding duration, use Scepter/Dagger.
But muh renegade with tormenting runes
Mesmer and Revenant with tormenting runes = immortal.
how good would this build be in pvp ?
parasitic contagion has been nerfed from 10% heal to 5% only :(
yes but healing make it can solo easy for pve
great guide, but scourge necro in general has conditions unique to it's class with the same condition based weapons that ele mesmer guardian would get and more , that said, with harbinger, scourge can burst torment for upwards of 50k on 1shroud skill 5. then continue to another 50k in a matter of seconds on sceptor torch and a single punishment skill, the only variance with minimal might stacks. utilizing a single condition to burst is what scourge excells at, heh n ppl cry about lack of burn or other condis.
this build has 10 sources of torment bursting before weapon swapping(4 of which are punishment skills) no other class has 10 ways of duration reapplication of a single condition in this manner. scourge can inflict torment infinitely. as your sand shades expire, your utilities are off cooldown n vice versa even if using harbinger shroud::::rinse repeat:::: there's always torment on the target, ideally if there's sand shades up. condi cleansing is nothing fighting a scourge.
scourge is both a stronger minion mancer due to 3 extra shades, and a deathshroud necro due to "barrier." scourge becomes stronger in respect, but still in it's true form. those that would otherwise complain or compare its condition s afflictions to say burn guardian would be idiots, but to torment would be wise - no other class excells at torment.
I agree! Scourge has the easiest ways to apply Torment to multiple targets, making it one of the strongest solo classes out there. Not only is it strong but it can easily "farm enemies/events" due to having the ability to attack from different areas and angles at once.
I was thinking torment is doing more damage if the enemy is not moving! You are telling me it makes more damage while they are moving^^
I notice that you hardly use your staff. Do I need it with this build?
No you do not. I personally use staff just for the Utility. Staff is great when open world soloing as it has access to a variety of utilities including Fear and a Condition Transfer. Primarily for Scourge you're just using on weapon set (Scepter/Torch) 90% of the time. A lot of people like to use Dagger off hand swap in order to continue stacking bleeding with Scepter Autos.
@@silkyonyen9223 Thank you. I just hit level 80 and bought Dire armour until I can afford the proper gear. Struggling a little with the build. I need more practice.
Average Reaper fan vs the average Scourge enjoyer
Can you share your build on build editor?
Yes please! I was going to ask this as well. I’m curious what trait lines you take as a standard. It should be easy to figure out from there what to swap for specific encounters
Sorry for the late reply. The Build I use is this for casual open world: gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAs+ZlVweYQsNmJW6X1PVA-zRRYfBZYGdc5FSmhQuJQHVg3Xgw1DvFdPrA-e
This for soloing Champions
gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwAs+ZlNweYasNmJWaX+PTA-zRRYfBZYGdc5FSmhQuJQHVg3Xgw1DvFdPrA-e
It's the same equipment with just Traits switched around.
@@silkyonyen9223 Thank you!! :)
@@auricjaya I have a build video if you want more information on the playstyle of Viper Scourge. th-cam.com/video/iYwDC3LU-ME/w-d-xo.html
@@silkyonyen9223 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Thank you.
I'm a returnee and I'll make one
and if you are serious the answer is guardian. can do everything but better
Nah, guardian is boring and mainstream. Everyone has one.
How does it compare to revenant? I want to play both solo and in groups (raids/fractals). Really doubting between necromancer and revenant...
i play revenant renegade in pve and it has a lot of AoE with high dps and self healing. i haven't done raids but it does amazing in solo open world pve stuff. and the combat is really fun too so i'd recommend u give it a shot
Sorry for late reply. Renegade is generally more accepted in Raids and Fractals because of the insane damage they do.
@@silkyonyen9223 Hehe no worries! Too late though as I went with necromancer as first class. Just enjoyed the theme of the class a lot and reaper is also great fun!
@@silkyonyen9223 Out of curiosity, do you lose a lot of dps, using tormenting runes over for example lich runes? And do you require different weapon sigils? Ideally I want to use the same viper set for fractals and my solo play? I also want to try and solo a fractal which is why the additional sustain would be welcome I guess but if the cost of dps is too high that it affects group play, I guess I have to build a second set? Have you tried this by any chance and do you run different sigils with tormenting runes?
Hello i want to if you can do a video on support scourge i know that scourge cappable of most of it solo but i just want to be a good friend and support my teammates so yeah i hope you read my comment and i like your video
sorry for my bad english ✌️
Hey! Support Scourge is great, I have a build template I use frequently for World Bosses with it. There are already plenty of Support Scourge videos out there though so I don't know if I could add anymore to them.
Strange music choice for the first half- I feel like I’m falling asleep.
Tried both classes. I think condi Rev is still better DPS/ survivability.
Yeeeeah this is fine and all. But do you really need a best class for something as trivial as open world content
I can run most of it in power gear on a condition character.
Hey my barriers are way way weaker than shown hear, why is that?
I'm pretty sure they got nerfed, cause I also spent 2 years not playing and noticed how weak they were after I returned.
@@chadley253 Thanks buddy!!
I dont necessarly get the point of clearing out the "best class" if u can play your class incredibly well u can solo pretty much any content that doesnt require 50 ppl+ surely this is nice to see but as someone who hates dots/to rely on them i can honestly say that i am one of those reapers xd just prefering raw dmg over dmg over time. Everyones own thing though everyone should play how he/she wants incase... My comment sounds a bit offensive. Still good vid
I want to play a thief but from what I've seen it is one of the weakest professions at solo champions.
Tell this to my guardian. It can do a lot of damage in both power and condi specs but he is squishy AF and can take literally no damage in face at all not even from veteran lvl mobs in HoT or PoF locations (esp in bloodstone maw or bitterfrost frontier) I have full viper and full berserker half exotic/ascended gear and compare to my necro its ridiculously pathetic (in same gear). It is so squishy garbage that i actually forced to use other class in dlc locations to farm even if i very much enjoy utility of guardian. So as guardian your skill mean literally nothing to mobs that hits you for 1/4 of your hp with every hit. Its out of my mind how fucking paladin in HEAVY armor can be two-three times more squishy then wever aka weak mage in fucking rags with same stats gear. What's even a point in heavy armor then?
@@misterv2899 to be fair atleast in its current state (as weaver main for PvP and PvE) i feel more like weaver can be played as hard dps or Immortal tank with some condis bursting/fire weaver. I guess its well definitely a difference between having 26 skills to utilize buffs defensive and offensive abilitities then by having 10 max with both weps ofc not to leave out the 5 utility skills every class has. And imo the Tankyness of weaver is sorta a reward for playing the piano on your Keyboard since most likely if u dont know what youre doing youll just die again and again... I love soloing group content with it even managed to pop one raid solo.
ok so now i need to make a char that slays necros easy to have easy life and easy wins
Well, in WvW, generally if you are a ranged character you can beat Necros easily. Regular SPvP? Good luck capping those points lol.
Renegade > Necro, but still good =) Check Lord Hizen ;)
condi scourges are the lowest DDs in organized pve? what the hell have you been smoking, that's as incorrect as incorrect can get
the only things that can *consistently* keep me below #1 on the pump charts are the 1 button rifle mech and the 1 button bladesworn (assuming*** they hit their dragon slashes) and condi untamed but i've ever only seen somebody play that ONCE
I have a necromancer but honestly the class needs a nerf...even with the new balance oatch didn't happen anything
I think Necromancer and it's elite specs are pretty balanced. It may not be the strongest damage wise but it is the class that excels at solo play.
Bravo
How to be good at necromancer: Step 4 - headbutt the keyboard for the best combo rotation. Done.
lmao literally. scourge gameplay is just spam all skills off cooldown and gg
Maybe! in group play but solo as Viper Scourge requires you to manage the low Life Force pool you have efficiently.
moar please :)
renegade is best ...... by Lord Hizen
Already nerfed to death...
but still, its boring to play scourge!
Thanks for watching! Some players find it boring, some find it fun. I find it fun soloing groups of enemies.
I came here to watch not read lol
7:00 can somebody tell me do i need those exact items or i just need like the "effects??" "bonuses??" whatever they're called? i have no idea what is going on with those items
Same stats not the actaual items. The item themselves don't mean sht , you just need the stats.
Hey thanks for watching and sorry for this late response. The Items I use are all Viper's Gear (Major Stats in Power, Condition Damage. Minor Stats in Precision and Expertise), and Two Rings that are are Sinister (Major Stat Condition Damage, Minor Stat in Power and Precision). The reason why I take Two Sinister Rings is because it helps me hit above 50% Critical Hit Rate with traits included. I use Superior Rune of Tormenting primarily for the 6th effect that adds great sustain. The Weapon Sigils I use are Superior Sigil of Torment for added AoE Torment application on critical hits and Superior Sigil of Bursting for more Condition Damage. That's basically all there is to the gear. I also made a short guide on Viper Scourge as one of my first videos if you need more information.
good one.. very good one