That's so true. My first time through, I wasn't feeling it until the very end. Now, everytime I listen, I pick up on things I didn't notice before. It has a lot of layers.
I just watched his reaction the other day. I'm so glad I tend to laugh about misunderstandings because they're funny (as long as someone tells them of course)
One of my favorite little bits of blocking in this show comes during Orpheus’s little speech. When it’s live there’s a pause after “to the world we dream about” and the cast all turns to face the audience for “and the one we live in now.” This song and the two after it are the parts that really drew me in the first time.
Don't worry about your first reaction being frustrating to watch. I feel like you handled that really well by adding the first intro explainig that you know you didn't quite get it there, and by doing that you recontextualized your reaction and made it still enjoyable to watch, at least for me. You took the frustrating part of "oh no, he doesn't understand and I can't tell him" out of it by telling us that someone already told you, so now it's also interesting to see what you misunderstood and why.
Still watching so you might understand better later on, but I think your confusion stems from not realizing that Persephone has returned to the surface (summertime) and Orpheus and Euridice's story is running concurrently. There is a parallel story between Orpheus and Euridice and Persephone and Hades but they're all happening at the same time. There's no time skipping going on, just Hermes giving little asides and clarifications. I also love how this musical is making allusions to climate change with Persephone arriving back to the surface later and later in the year and having to return back to Hadestown sooner and sooner for reasons (you'll see why). There are plenty of mentions of fall and spring essentially not existing anymore and we have a more vibrant summer and a harsher winter. Also, Hermes' bar is ON the road to Hell, like the last/first stop into and out of Hadestown. Hope this clarifies things.
Ok, went further on saw your revised reaction, so to speak. Yeah, Act 1 of Hadestown does not take place at all in Hades but its a lingering presence. Also, the green that Persephone is wearing in this animatic is what she wears during the entirety of Act 1 of the musical and Hermes wears and silver suit with winged shoes during the whole show and I love that the animator included that in their animatic.
You're doing really well with these so don't ever feel bad. Hadestown presents itself like poetry (especially obvious in the Off-Broadway version) so it's hard to analyze the pieces without seeing the entirety. There's lots of significance, but very little of it is literal. When in doubt, "Don't ask where, brother, dont ask when."
No spoilers! I think this one is fine because he knows it's a tragedy but he has specifically said that spoilers for emotions and stuff are spoilers too
Persephone is played by an actress named Amber Gray. If you like her voice, you should also check her out in a musical called Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812, where she plays a character named Helene.
its funny that living it up to was specifically added to make views not confused on where the story started and mortius got it flipped. Anais mitchell added the song in one of the early edits to add more energy and Liveliness to the start
I really appreciate Mortius giving us the option if we wanted to see his initial reaction instead of keeping it a patreon exclusive or just not showing us. Thanks Mortius 💕, I enjoyed and stressed at the confusion 😭.
There are so many reasons I love this show, but one of them is definitely the alto rep! I’m glad you were able to get the settings sorted! It’s definitely tricky when you’re just listening to the songs
Loved that you went back to review that song with a bit more context, it does help set things up for later. About your comment on how much Hadestown is grabbing you, I generally find it (in my own experience and in my experience showing it to other people) it is a slow, steady acceleration to the end. These beginning songs are slowly building the world, the characters, the problems they all have, and all of that will pay off at the end, but it does make it harder to introduce people to the musical. I think it helps to think of the whole musical as one song (the clue is in the opening "It's an old song" "It's a sad song" being repeated so much). The whole thing is so beautiful, but you kinda need the ending to see that. (also, one things intensify, they pretty much stay intense) I love that you already have some familiarity with the story of Orpheus and Eurydice, which does help in understanding the show as it is happening. And I love that you are filming things in batches, to let you appreciate the transitions between songs better and to (hopefully) better experience the way the musical builds over the span of multiple songs.
The OG cast for Hadestown for Orpheus also did Spider-Man on the -very- short lived but musically pretty good play called “Turn of the Dark”(I believe that’s the name)
i guess soon you will understand but the line "to the world we dream about and the one we live in now" is so special to me and it always makes me hold my breath… I think it represents very well what the whole musical is about, and the reason why we connect so much to it
This song is about Persephone coming back up to the mortal world bringing spring back. (Myth dump sorry kids) Before Persephone stayed in the Underworld, it was spring basically all the time, joyous, fun, and happy. When Persephone ate the fruit and devoted half her life to living in the Underworld, her mother (Demeter the goddess of the harvest/seasons) grew angry and sad causing cold weather and crops to whither. So in this moment, Persephone is back on Earth returning Spring to us. Long winded story to basically say everyone is on Earth at the moment.
She actually is bringing Summer because she's late. That's why "It's either blazing hot or freezing cold " There's no Spring or fall because she's late and Hades gets her too early. She doesn't bring Spring until Orpheus '"brings the world back into tune "
And in the original myth Persephone isn’t even the goddess because it’s her mother who causes everything to grow bc she’s so happy her daughter, and Persephone is called dread Persephone, which makes sense given she is queen of the underworld.
I too get really frustrated with misunderstandings (because i love most topics i watch reactions for and i want them to be fully experienced❤). That said, i loved your approach! Knowing there would be an informed ending part made it easy to enjoy the mix ups and reaction in the first part. It was actually fascinating how interpretations can differ and how much our knowledge and expectations lead our experiences. Loved it so much, thank you for the intro❤
This is my favorite Musical and it took me multiple listens to understand all of the metaphors in this musical. The train especially. Now that I’ve heard it a million times and actually watched it on stage I finally understand all of the metaphors and it makes this musical even more special once you understand. It’s very artistic and never blatantly tells you what’s going on which I’ve heard people dislike about it but I feel like it makes hadestown even more of a masterpiece
I was planning on suggesting the same thing. I was going to wait till we get near end of Hades town but now works too. But yeah, it think he’d like it.
Amber Gray (the original Persephone) has an amazing voice. Another reason for you to watch Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812: she was in the original cast of that musical, too. You can also check out a shortened version of this they performed on the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade of 2019 to better picture some of the choreography and blocking.
I love Greek mythology so: what it is look at the lyrics that says lied to the king of the underworld (she wants to go back to the as you call it overworld) but he keeps her there and doesn’t let her go back so the wine scene she’s doing the best she can (with dealing with hades )
I'm so glad you went back and reacted to it again, I personally don't think the first reaction was frustrating but the correction was definitely necessary. Really I felt bad with how confused you where, and I think it would've hindered your enjoyment of the show moving foward. It was funny to hear you whip out the 2 timelines theory, it sounds like a cool way to present a musical even tho that wasnt the case here. Great job as always can't wait to see your reactions to the rest of the show :)
Really hope Mortius would watch both versions of Way Down Hadestown. Cause who sings which lines in the Original Cast is different and it really changes the feel of the song, and I do think it's worth listening to. The broadway version is great, and it's one of my favorite from this show, but I always seem to go back to the Original cast.
The lyrics for this show are pretty non-literal a lot of the time so I can totally understand getting confused or too in your head without having the stage visuals to aid in that understanding. If you like Hadestown I feel like you would really like Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812 which is a musical adaptation of like 1/3 of the book war and peace, and Amber Grey who plays Persephone is also in that show! Dave Malloy the writer of that show is a super interesting composer and I would also recommend Octet by him although that one is much more weird and experimental and not everyone’s cup of tea. Would highly recommend Great Comet though either to react to or check out on your own time!
it's hilarious that this misunderstanding seems to have snowballed out of control simply from you seeing a train go TOWARDS the underworld in the first video. first impressions really do matter lmaooo
I feel like it could go both ways. Either she is having issues and is wishful for how it could be. Or (and I like this one better) her relationship with Hades is great and she doesn't want to leave him behind to go spread spring everywhere (hence why she is always late) and maybe an explanation for that look she gave the happy couple. Cause she misses her Husband that she has to leave behind for half a year on behalf of mankind.
Me at the beginning: oh honey, there's no way you misinterpreted things THAT badly, chill, we'll be fine (said Athena) Me at 7:07 : NO NO NO NO NO THAT'S NOT IT! WHAT????? MORTIUS HOW THE HELL DID U GOT TO THAT CONCLU- oh wait now I see why the warning was important
You need to react to Miranda pla's animatics of way down hades town and wait for me they are AMAZING! and will help a lot with understanding the story of the songs
Title: I'm starting to understand this now Also Mortius: So this is in the Underworld? It's two different timelines!! Persephone spends most her time above ground. Is she into Orpheus and jealous of Eurydice? SO THEY ARE IN THE UNDERWORLD?!?! (Btw this is a joke I don't expect him to understand all this straight away just found his predictions funny this time as he normally gets nat 20s. I cackled at the last one) 22:40 HJHSIASHDUIAHDOBAOI I AINT SAYING NOTHING
I’m not even annoyed I’m just *so curious* how “let the poet bless this round” made Mortius immediately think “wait they’re in the underworld?” Like no… uh no Orpheus just exists idk what to tell you-
If you see this...that is Euridyse that Orpheus pulls up (the red flower is kind of the important motif as it represents his heart). Also, I have for Act 2, saved gigi's animation for Flowers because its cleary the Broadway cast that inspired it and while on stage it mostly just solo spotlight the animation gives a different perspective that is happening between When the Chips are Down and the first song or two of act 2). But you probably have already done this, but Hey Little Dongbird, when the chips are down and it reprise kind of all go together as one event. But you probably are up to Chant 1, which gets stuck in your head, but I like the chants better than the epics. No offense Orpheus but its the same song over and over just from different perspectives. Also, while the start of Road to Hell is part of it, they did a pretty good job of recreating Wait for Me at the Tonys, which you can react to, but there is also a bootleg of Reeve Carney's last performance where you see the staging.
This musical _really_ doesnt let you forget its political undertones, "If no one takes too much, there will always be enough" like, holy implicit Capitalism critic, batman! And Yeap, Mortius, youre picking up what the song is putting down, its ~ _Climate Change_ ~
Persephone came back from the underworld they are all alive right now!! You are going to far 😂😂😂 you stressing to much mortius this was Persephone talkin bout hun. Livin it up on top is literal they are all alive 😭😭 poor thing
Persephone: The ultimate wine aunt.
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"skip to this timestamp" he says, gesturing to the empty air. Guess we're here for the long haul
@@dragansnyder2786 nah I'm here for the long haul, watch time is good for the channel. Just poking fun at an editing miss
@@G_Rez oh I'm sorry then
Mason said, nope, I had to suffer through this, and so do you
@@melissaf5331 no one will take the suffering for us
My bad 😅
The thing I love about Hadestown is that its one of those musicals that get better the more you listen to it
That's so true. My first time through, I wasn't feeling it until the very end. Now, everytime I listen, I pick up on things I didn't notice before. It has a lot of layers.
Don't feel bad- What It Do Dave spent the whole Wisdom Saga thinking Telemachus' scenes were an Odysseus flashback. He thought Penelope was Anticleia
I just watched his reaction the other day. I'm so glad I tend to laugh about misunderstandings because they're funny (as long as someone tells them of course)
One of my favorite little bits of blocking in this show comes during Orpheus’s little speech. When it’s live there’s a pause after “to the world we dream about” and the cast all turns to face the audience for “and the one we live in now.” This song and the two after it are the parts that really drew me in the first time.
Don't worry about your first reaction being frustrating to watch. I feel like you handled that really well by adding the first intro explainig that you know you didn't quite get it there, and by doing that you recontextualized your reaction and made it still enjoyable to watch, at least for me. You took the frustrating part of "oh no, he doesn't understand and I can't tell him" out of it by telling us that someone already told you, so now it's also interesting to see what you misunderstood and why.
Still watching so you might understand better later on, but I think your confusion stems from not realizing that Persephone has returned to the surface (summertime) and Orpheus and Euridice's story is running concurrently. There is a parallel story between Orpheus and Euridice and Persephone and Hades but they're all happening at the same time. There's no time skipping going on, just Hermes giving little asides and clarifications. I also love how this musical is making allusions to climate change with Persephone arriving back to the surface later and later in the year and having to return back to Hadestown sooner and sooner for reasons (you'll see why). There are plenty of mentions of fall and spring essentially not existing anymore and we have a more vibrant summer and a harsher winter. Also, Hermes' bar is ON the road to Hell, like the last/first stop into and out of Hadestown. Hope this clarifies things.
Ok, went further on saw your revised reaction, so to speak. Yeah, Act 1 of Hadestown does not take place at all in Hades but its a lingering presence. Also, the green that Persephone is wearing in this animatic is what she wears during the entirety of Act 1 of the musical and Hermes wears and silver suit with winged shoes during the whole show and I love that the animator included that in their animatic.
The arm fringe on Hermes' suit evoking wings as well is such a nice touch!
You're doing really well with these so don't ever feel bad. Hadestown presents itself like poetry (especially obvious in the Off-Broadway version) so it's hard to analyze the pieces without seeing the entirety. There's lots of significance, but very little of it is literal.
When in doubt, "Don't ask where, brother, dont ask when."
Can't wait to go through this mental breakdown again
And we're gonna breakdown again, and again.
We're gonna breakdown again.
No spoilers! I think this one is fine because he knows it's a tragedy but he has specifically said that spoilers for emotions and stuff are spoilers too
@CindersSpot oh no I was referring to my mental breakdown from when I watched his first reaction of the song in patreon
@@gryfon_gamez8184 Ah, sorry! I thought you were referring to the show as a whole
Persephone is played by an actress named Amber Gray. If you like her voice, you should also check her out in a musical called Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812, where she plays a character named Helene.
God I love great comet too, Amber Gray is a golden actress
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its funny that living it up to was specifically added to make views not confused on where the story started and mortius got it flipped. Anais mitchell added the song in one of the early edits to add more energy and Liveliness to the start
I really appreciate Mortius giving us the option if we wanted to see his initial reaction instead of keeping it a patreon exclusive or just not showing us. Thanks Mortius 💕, I enjoyed and stressed at the confusion 😭.
When i first listened to the show, i was so taken aback by wine aunt Persephone, but now i love it
There are so many reasons I love this show, but one of them is definitely the alto rep!
I’m glad you were able to get the settings sorted! It’s definitely tricky when you’re just listening to the songs
Loved that you went back to review that song with a bit more context, it does help set things up for later. About your comment on how much Hadestown is grabbing you, I generally find it (in my own experience and in my experience showing it to other people) it is a slow, steady acceleration to the end. These beginning songs are slowly building the world, the characters, the problems they all have, and all of that will pay off at the end, but it does make it harder to introduce people to the musical. I think it helps to think of the whole musical as one song (the clue is in the opening "It's an old song" "It's a sad song" being repeated so much). The whole thing is so beautiful, but you kinda need the ending to see that. (also, one things intensify, they pretty much stay intense)
I love that you already have some familiarity with the story of Orpheus and Eurydice, which does help in understanding the show as it is happening. And I love that you are filming things in batches, to let you appreciate the transitions between songs better and to (hopefully) better experience the way the musical builds over the span of multiple songs.
Mortius is entering his Casper era.
The OG cast for Hadestown for Orpheus also did Spider-Man on the -very- short lived but musically pretty good play called “Turn of the Dark”(I believe that’s the name)
You look like such a confused puppy 😂 Adorable and full of excited energy but also just a bit lost.
i guess soon you will understand but the line "to the world we dream about and the one we live in now" is so special to me and it always makes me hold my breath… I think it represents very well what the whole musical is about, and the reason why we connect so much to it
This song is about Persephone coming back up to the mortal world bringing spring back. (Myth dump sorry kids) Before Persephone stayed in the Underworld, it was spring basically all the time, joyous, fun, and happy. When Persephone ate the fruit and devoted half her life to living in the Underworld, her mother (Demeter the goddess of the harvest/seasons) grew angry and sad causing cold weather and crops to whither. So in this moment, Persephone is back on Earth returning Spring to us. Long winded story to basically say everyone is on Earth at the moment.
She actually is bringing Summer because she's late. That's why "It's either blazing hot or freezing cold " There's no Spring or fall because she's late and Hades gets her too early. She doesn't bring Spring until Orpheus '"brings the world back into tune "
And in the original myth Persephone isn’t even the goddess because it’s her mother who causes everything to grow bc she’s so happy her daughter, and Persephone is called dread Persephone, which makes sense given she is queen of the underworld.
*is not the goddess of spring
I too get really frustrated with misunderstandings (because i love most topics i watch reactions for and i want them to be fully experienced❤).
That said, i loved your approach! Knowing there would be an informed ending part made it easy to enjoy the mix ups and reaction in the first part. It was actually fascinating how interpretations can differ and how much our knowledge and expectations lead our experiences. Loved it so much, thank you for the intro❤
Lol the confused frustration
This is my favorite Musical and it took me multiple listens to understand all of the metaphors in this musical. The train especially. Now that I’ve heard it a million times and actually watched it on stage I finally understand all of the metaphors and it makes this musical even more special once you understand. It’s very artistic and never blatantly tells you what’s going on which I’ve heard people dislike about it but I feel like it makes hadestown even more of a masterpiece
Soooooo like if he hasn't already seen it then who's down with Mortius reacting to "Natasha, Pierre and the great comet"?
I was planning on suggesting the same thing. I was going to wait till we get near end of Hades town but now works too. But yeah, it think he’d like it.
Great idea, it’s so good
PLEASE
YESSSSSS
I just commented for him to check it out since he likes Amber Gray's voice!
Oh im _soooo_ excited for the next batch of songs!
Thats where the story REALLY kicks off imo
"i wish you could all see it! ...actually no, you don't want to see in my mind it's a nightmare there" ND realness
You were such a good sport with the way you handled the initial misunderstanding, Mortius!
Amber Gray (who plays Persephone) is part of the reason I really wanna see him check out The Great Comet - she is also in that and she did AMAZING.
Amber Gray (the original Persephone) has an amazing voice. Another reason for you to watch Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812: she was in the original cast of that musical, too.
You can also check out a shortened version of this they performed on the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade of 2019 to better picture some of the choreography and blocking.
I love Greek mythology so: what it is look at the lyrics that says lied to the king of the underworld (she wants to go back to the as you call it overworld) but he keeps her there and doesn’t let her go back so the wine scene she’s doing the best she can (with dealing with hades )
Plus it’s not 2 timelines expect when it’s obvious
I'm so glad you went back and reacted to it again, I personally don't think the first reaction was frustrating but the correction was definitely necessary. Really I felt bad with how confused you where, and I think it would've hindered your enjoyment of the show moving foward.
It was funny to hear you whip out the 2 timelines theory, it sounds like a cool way to present a musical even tho that wasnt the case here.
Great job as always can't wait to see your reactions to the rest of the show :)
Really hope Mortius would watch both versions of Way Down Hadestown. Cause who sings which lines in the Original Cast is different and it really changes the feel of the song, and I do think it's worth listening to. The broadway version is great, and it's one of my favorite from this show, but I always seem to go back to the Original cast.
The road to hell is paved with misunderstandings 😂 glad the patrons put you straight!
mortius having the reaction to amber gray that we all have
The lyrics for this show are pretty non-literal a lot of the time so I can totally understand getting confused or too in your head without having the stage visuals to aid in that understanding. If you like Hadestown I feel like you would really like Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812 which is a musical adaptation of like 1/3 of the book war and peace, and Amber Grey who plays Persephone is also in that show! Dave Malloy the writer of that show is a super interesting composer and I would also recommend Octet by him although that one is much more weird and experimental and not everyone’s cup of tea. Would highly recommend Great Comet though either to react to or check out on your own time!
this is so much better then just posting the confused version and having everyone blow up at you though. we appreciate the rewatch
it's hilarious that this misunderstanding seems to have snowballed out of control simply from you seeing a train go TOWARDS the underworld in the first video. first impressions really do matter lmaooo
Is that where this all comes from?? 😭
you're good!! no worries :)
I feel like it could go both ways. Either she is having issues and is wishful for how it could be. Or (and I like this one better) her relationship with Hades is great and she doesn't want to leave him behind to go spread spring everywhere (hence why she is always late) and maybe an explanation for that look she gave the happy couple. Cause she misses her Husband that she has to leave behind for half a year on behalf of mankind.
Also, i didn't find your first reaction particularly frustrating but i can tell this is gonna be cathartic still lol
Me at the beginning: oh honey, there's no way you misinterpreted things THAT badly, chill, we'll be fine (said Athena)
Me at 7:07 : NO NO NO NO NO THAT'S NOT IT! WHAT????? MORTIUS HOW THE HELL DID U GOT TO THAT CONCLU- oh wait now I see why the warning was important
You need to react to Miranda pla's animatics of way down hades town and wait for me they are AMAZING! and will help a lot with understanding the story of the songs
so persephone is bringing summer back to the overworld
I think this might be one of my favorite songs in hadestown❤️❤️❤️❤️
Title: I'm starting to understand this now
Also Mortius: So this is in the Underworld? It's two different timelines!! Persephone spends most her time above ground. Is she into Orpheus and jealous of Eurydice? SO THEY ARE IN THE UNDERWORLD?!?!
(Btw this is a joke I don't expect him to understand all this straight away just found his predictions funny this time as he normally gets nat 20s. I cackled at the last one)
22:40 HJHSIASHDUIAHDOBAOI I AINT SAYING NOTHING
I’m not even annoyed I’m just *so curious* how “let the poet bless this round” made Mortius immediately think “wait they’re in the underworld?” Like no… uh no Orpheus just exists idk what to tell you-
He explained that he thought Orpheus being “on the road to hell” meant they were already in hell… not sure how that doesn’t answer your confusion.
Bro this is practically a spoken word piece, it’s poetic af and hella hard to completely understand on a blind listen don’t stress
Don't worry too much, I was just as confused as you where xP
Hadestown has one of the most poetic lyrics imo, so its gonna take a bit of ermm.. critical thinking
If you see this...that is Euridyse that Orpheus pulls up (the red flower is kind of the important motif as it represents his heart). Also, I have for Act 2, saved gigi's animation for Flowers because its cleary the Broadway cast that inspired it and while on stage it mostly just solo spotlight the animation gives a different perspective that is happening between When the Chips are Down and the first song or two of act 2). But you probably have already done this, but Hey Little Dongbird, when the chips are down and it reprise kind of all go together as one event. But you probably are up to Chant 1, which gets stuck in your head, but I like the chants better than the epics. No offense Orpheus but its the same song over and over just from different perspectives.
Also, while the start of Road to Hell is part of it, they did a pretty good job of recreating Wait for Me at the Tonys, which you can react to, but there is also a bootleg of Reeve Carney's last performance where you see the staging.
This musical _really_ doesnt let you forget its political undertones, "If no one takes too much, there will always be enough" like, holy implicit Capitalism critic, batman!
And Yeap, Mortius, youre picking up what the song is putting down,
its ~ _Climate Change_ ~
Wet hades who 😂😂😂
Persephone came back from the underworld they are all alive right now!! You are going to far 😂😂😂 you stressing to much mortius this was Persephone talkin bout hun. Livin it up on top is literal they are all alive 😭😭 poor thing
watch the intro..
So you just like, didn't watch the video you're commenting on huh
I dont like hadestown…