What is Biodynamic Agriculture?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2024
- In today's video Jeff Poppen, known as the Barefoot Farmer, breaks down what biodynamic agriculture is and how it works on his farm, Long Hungry Creek, in Tennesee.
In this video we discuss: What is biodynamic agriculture, how does biodynamics work, and more!
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Important note that I really appreciate the comments on this video as they pertain to Steiner the man, and I'm reading a lot that I did not know. I guess I personally have always thought of Steiner as an eccentric philosopher, somewhat caught up in the esoteric lecturing/writing popular at the time, but who had some thoughtful ideas about agriculture. What I was not aware of were his more troubling, racist comments. Obviously, I do not endorse that. I think, like many ideas (or tools or methods, etc) from an earlier time, biodynamics has a complicated history. But that context is important. I don't blame anyone for passing on this approach for those reasons. Thank you as always for the insight, y'all. You are great.
If it was ONLY the racist and EUGENIC approach of Steiner from a long time... From my searches now i'm more looking for "what is not sectary bullshit in this practices that could be interesting to keep.." (that is not already somewhere else without the bullshit, i mean..) If you want to know and stop to promote this cult thing that desserve the no-till serious workers etc... The french channel (with translation) from ACult Official, Meta de Choc, @ShadowOmbre, and many others... I have been a believer myself for years, and it is normal that we get surprised in front of that: Steiner himself told that his teachers have to not tell too much about the occultist stuff otherwise nobody would take them serious... And now they have money, to promote the cult, even in governement, like in the Macron gov today
We have been farming using biodynamics for 25 years, would not farm any other way my neighbours have thought us crazy burying cow horns and working with the moon. I was lucky and had Peter Proctor and Hugh Lovel as mentors, it’s not for everyone can seem a bit far out there but if you want to eat your own food you want it to be not only nutrient dense but full of life force as well. Jeff, Hugh Lovel, Hugh Courtney, and Harvey Lisel have made BD so much easier to understand in language we speak today and I am internally great full to them for the dedication and inspiration that they have given so freely, thanks Jesse for what you do as well, you are awesome ❤
It's still total bs
There is no "life force" outside of your imagination.
You could just farm well, save on the timewasting and get the exact same results - lots of people do.
@@aenorist2431 I feel deeply sad for you. "no life force"
Very nice of you to recognize your "teachers".
I'm not 100% onboard with BD. I'm sceptical on just a few points but otherwise it's "peasant smarts" as my mother used to remind me.
Got coffee... and here is Jesse
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@@notillgrowers cooffee
same here !
Me too
Heck yea! Christian crank baby
watched the whole thing and couldn't agree more with the philosophy!!... thanks for sharing the wisdom my friends🙏
Nate, So glad to see you here! You and Jesse are my absolute favorites to follow and watch! You both bring an abundance of food knowledge to the table 🍽. I'm "chompin' @ the bit" for the two of you to experience my new farm! 💖
I'd be interested to hear a discussion between yourself and Jeff about the virtues of no-till vs min-till (know-till in his parlance). No-till is being trialed in conjunction with biodynamics here in the UK, but there is a lot of resistance. It's great to open the conversation up and get a synthesis of the best agricultural methods being used going forward.
$10 on Amazon right now for Jeffs book right now, couldn't pass on it. Thanks for another great drop!
I took a biodynamic gardening class a little over a decade ago. I love that this is making a comeback! I attended UT Extension New Farmer Academy and was looked at like I had 3 heads when I requested biodynamic farming information.
I found a preying mantis in my garden yesterday. Cool!
growing without plastics is what i aspire to
This. I don’t even like food grade buckets.
Hard to overcome the obsessive compulsion to garbage the garden. The holy grail is to not even use garbage paper.
EXCELLENT video! More, please! Jeff's simple explanations of the basis of how biodynamic agriculture works WITH nature will be a God send for me to help teach others on my new farm - coming soon! ThanQ Jesse!
I got to see Jeff in person at the biodynamic conference in November 2023.
Good to hear him talk on biodynamics Steiner and so on.
He was walking around the hotel in coveralls and barefoot, gotta love it, that conference was eye opening and life changing.
Look forward to his part on the preparations.
This is one of your best videos, Jesse. I learned something new.
Absolutely, positively appreciated this!
And what a beautiful farm , wisdom, and knowledge !
Thank you!
Biodynamic farming is like Ayurveda Medicine. 90% complete nonsense, 10% practical truth. But that 10% is extremly useful. The fact is that the Biodynamic farmers I know and have work and lived with, just follow all the basic tenets of gardening to an immaculate degree. And then add in a bit of extra stuff which doesn’t seem to hurt. I’m pretty sure Biodynamic practice attracts highly skilled growers who then attribute their own skill to this mystic practice
wish I could add a dozen more thumbs up to this comment.
Hmmm, I think I hear you… I get that you are pretty sure about how “it is”/how you see it.
Are you open to others’ perspectives and opinions on the matter?
Can you elaborate on what the useful 10% is?
FWIW, In 1992/3, I attended an organic growers conference in North Carolina. A well-off fellow gave a talk on bio-dynamic agriculture. He owned a commercial plant nursery. He claimed he was making compost for his nursery and that he’d tried several approaches to making compost and that time and time again the plants which received biodynamic compost/treatments did better, were healthier and more robust that the other plants that got the other compost/treatment. I remember the guy was wearing a yachting crew shirt complete with semaphore flags for his initials, real wealthy guy, a blueblood, born with a silver spoon in his mouth kind of guy… he said he was as perplexed as anyone as to why it worked, he said he didn’t understand or even subscribe to the spiritual or energetic side of BD, but in his experience it worked. It made an impression on me.
Who decides which part is nonsense and which part is useful?
Are cow horns antennas for cosmic energy or not? I need to know!
Thank you, Farmer Jesse.
More, please.
Definitely some interesting concepts. Always something interesting to learn and enjoy each Sunday Morning, Thank You!
How weird that I just spent my Saturday researching this very topic. I mean... let's talk about "vibes." This is so good.
Did you mention that interest in the presence of your smart phone?
Can't wait for part 3.
This is great! Thanks
That was thoroughly fascinating!!
This is so informative.
Thank you all!
Loved hearing him talk! So calm with loads of knowledge. His book was an instant purchase. Thanks for introducing him to us, Jesse!
Fantastic work, thank you for this jewel 💎! Greetings from the desert of Dubai. Martin
What a amazing wealth of knowledge from a OG
this is now my favorite episode
wow what a video!! love it.
Please have also look at the M Bruce, Quick return compost. This is also based on R. Steiner. The biodynamic compost preparation is still produced today.
Jeff's are so smart!
Just a note about solar radiation. My understanding is that hydrogen ions from solar wind bond with oxygen in the atmosphere to make water vapor. Plants use photons in photosynthesis for food. So plants do not directly use hydrogen ions from solar wind as stated in the video. Science rocks! Cheers!
It's fine with me if he believes hydrogen ions in the plant are transported directly from the sun. He does mix in just enough valid science that his other explanations seem plausible to most. Of course it's much easier to explain nature without having to learn modern scientific principles which can be difficult to grasp. I imagine him as a time traveller from centuries ago.
"Rudolf Joseph Lorenz Steiner was an Austrian occultist, social reformer, architect, esotericist, and claimed clairvoyant." No thanks, Jesse.
Lots of gems in here! From building soil Humus so there is no job for pests, to know till. Thanks for sharing!
No way you got Jeff Poppen on here! I’ve been following his videos on volunteer gardener TH-cam channel for years.
Thank you for that.😊
Thank you
Good information, however there are ways to help biology besides compost through things that are added to the seeds or sprayed as you are seeding. It's also a miss nomer that legumes provides nitrogen, legumes facilitate workspaces for nitrogen production. Its actually microbacteria that convert atmospheric N to plant food. The microbacteria that setup in legumes are powerhouses, however there are other microbacteria that work with non legumes that fixate around 20 lbs of N a year. You have to make sure you have the right microbacteria paired with the job desired.
Excellent video! Look forward to hearing more.
Bio fantastic
Greenwashing of a cult. Steiner himself told to not speak of lot of stuff so peoples would not take him for a gourou. And it worked.
Lol Bugtussle, Alabama. I used to live 5 minutes from there.
The first reference to aerated compost tea I could find comes from Steiner, also John Kempf said they found using sap analysis that a full moon is the best time to apply foliars for good uptake, maybe science is catching up.
Compost does not feed the soil microbiology. It is a fully digested material, only plants can use it. It has a somewhat good effect on soil structure in the short term though.
Only wood chips and/or agressive use of cover crops that produce a lot of biomass can really improve soil structure substantially and in the long term.
Looks like a beautiful farm with interesting practices though.
But seriously, how good are biodynamic wines!? Even those that are more "biodynamic-light" without the rituals are stunning.
Truly, it was a known secret that some of the best domains in Burgundy (at least when I was in the trade) utlized biodynamic practices even if they never talked about it.
@@notillgrowers False, some study made with blind test didn't show any of that. It works only for non blind test believers, as any cult... Even when I was believer, I found it strange this story of the moon tells that this planet display = eart (or other signs) "meaning" some special agricultural behaviors, without any link.. a bit like "shut up it is quantic"
Valuable horticultural wisdom from a pioneer, couldn't ask for more
Almost didn’t click! Glad I did! Cool guy! Thanks Jesse 👊
I dont feel like the question and title of the video has fully been addressed. Apart from a Heavy load of compost, his conservation tillage, and these biodynamic preps. Is that biodynamic agriculture is? Or are those his practices? Are there any biodynamic principles? that would encapsulate some of this? No discussion of the moon phases which I thought was a big thing. Tremendous production quality tho ❤️
Been speaking to a big timber farmer where I live and he's still using roundup to get rid of blackberries and other weeds..I explained to him the dangers of glyphosate and his response was how do you handle weeds without the chemicals?
Blackberries are tough, especially large scale. Goats maybe.
@@alexkunnen I suggested that, they eat the bark off the trees apparently
I am farming and gardening in terms of biodynamics and the knowlage i inherited from my grandfather and him from his grandather. And the moon cycles is one of the most important thing that i strictly follow.
It makes a big difrence aspecialy in meat when we bucheer animals.
Thank you, very informative, Jeff is a great teacher!
What's the plant shown at 2:10?
I enjoyed that explanation. Thanks
30 to 40 tonnes of compost is not vaguely possible for me. You'd need a truck. A big tip truck. Someone please explain how this is done? My farm was biodynamic in the 60s and 70s. I only realised recently why there were piles of horns in the shed.
Amazing, thank you!
Mr. Poppen is right that the sun is made of hydrogen, and that hydrogen is super light and the primordial matter of the universe. The sun consumes hydrogen in thermonuclear fusion, which emits the light - sunlight - that radiates onto earth. But that light is photon radiation. That is the energy that plants harvest from the sun, not hydrogen itself. The main source of hydrogen for plants is water, each molecule of which contains two hydrogen atoms.
My future concern is climate crisis with elevated and potential heat extremes. As global temps rise, how will this approach adapt?
No mention of manipulation ?
you can tell how well it works by the quality of his weed 😂 1.5x playback speed coming in clutch
Jeff seems to take the hokus pokus out of biodynamic farming
Greenwashing of a cult that is already cleaned (superficially) to the public so peoples continue to feed the gourous
A bit more woo woo than your typical video. I had to roll my eyes a hit when he mentioned they bring on 25-30 tons of compost per acre per year, thats ~1/2inch deep over an acre. Youre definitely getting a lot of biological activity with that addition every year.
No disagreements about soil biology being important, cover crops being useful tools, nor the use of mulches. But theres no need to invoke a deep mysticism alongside it.
30-40 tons of compost per acre per year? That's a LOT of money. Almost makes me want to revisit my thoughts of opening a compost business
It is a nice idea but you have to place your compost business close to a good concentration of cultish customers... and pray that they dont run out of money.
@jf3457 I know, that's why the idea has stayed on the shelf for the last 10 years
@@jf3457"cultish customers"?
Lol. Compost is mainstream. Even "Big Ag" universities promote it.
Axe grind elsewhere.
Thanks
Not really that much: its one 10 wheeler for a third acre
@@jf3457 "cultish customers"?
You can’t get green sand anymore 😢
Idk man, biodynamic farming seems like just organic permaculture farming with a lot of bullshit sprinkled in. Pun intended
That was my takeaway as well. Was not clear how this is any different than deep mulch, biodiverse, organic permaculture practices. Seems a bit dogmatic too. Also seems paradoxical in that the pests and diseases you want to prevent are intrinsically a part of the natural system. Don’t they play a role in the balance of nature too? Overall interesting content, so no complaints here.
@@fs60600 agree, I was sure I was gonna be flamed by hippies who believe in crystal magic lol. Thanks for to reply!
New York City!!?? That splains a lot! Thankfully, you escaped! Great video! Jeff has a very friable way with words. Thanks!
If you don't understand basic photosynthesis there's not much hope. I for one won't be buying his book. Love the channel Jesse
Anyone from anywhere should eat from a farm.
Biodynamic is awesome, though theosophy and anthroposophy are fantastical and difficult to embrace.
It's difficult to embrace because it's not centered in reality but in the phantatical dreams of a person that also stated that blond and blue eyed persons are superior to brown haired brown eyed persons.
@@christian6820 - Agreed. As Peter Staudenmaier says, _"[anthroposophy's] rejection of reason in favor of mystical experience, its subordination of human action to supernatural forces, and its thoroughly hierarchical model of spiritual development all mark anthroposophy as inimical to humanist values."_
That said, the methods still have relevance for growing and restoring fertility, despite and apart from the mysticism of the underpinning philosophy.
Fantastical and difficult to embrace sounds about right lol
I was definitely not aware of his more racist, anti-Semitic commentary and I appreciate you all adding that context. Thank you
@@notillgrowers - I apprenticed under a locally famous biodynamic couple in Northern California and we had anthroposophy lectures and reading that first brought these issues to my attention.
I feel strongly however that there's hugely useful -- and scientifically examined -- elements to -the- both Biodynamics and the Waldorf schooling practices not to be _thrown out with the bathwater._
Nice cult bro
I like that barefoot guy, but Rudolp Steiner is not without controversy (antisemitism and racism), check wikipedia. Also this method seems also to abuse animals, not a fan of it. My small garden is all vegan and its work very well.
Lol
There are virtually no youtube channels on vegan gardening/homesteading. I would follow. I'm vegetarian.
I appreciate this comment. Thank you. I personally have always thought of Steiner as an eccentric philosopher, somewhat caught up in the esoteric lecturing/writing popular at the time, but who had some thoughtful ideas about agriculture. What I was not aware of were his more troubling, racist comments. Obviously, I don't support that. Thanks for the insight. Also, indeed, not a very friendly practice to vegans and vegetarians though I have met several at his conferences in the past who have adapted the preps to be plant-centric.
Had to unsubscribe.....too many comment deletions.
??? Haven’t deleted any comments, friend.
@@notillgrowers people say that same thing on my channel all the time and I've never deleted anything... I found out YT automatically deletes comments its algorithms think are Bots...
It has gotten quite bad were my fingers travel.
@@notillgrowers I think youtube is fiddling with your comment section. I notice the same comments appearing 3-4 times as I scrolled down.