BMW i3 vs MINI Electric: Which is best?
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The BMW i3 was one of the first mainstream battery electric cars to go on sale, yet despite that it still looks fresh and modern today, as well as benefitting from a much bigger battery than before. But is it better than its stablemate, the MINI Electric? In this CarGurus UK review, Vicky Parrott drives the two cars back-to-back to see where the differences lie, and weighs up their pros and cons in terms of range, practicality, interior quality and technology.
What would you pick: i3 or MINI Electric?
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BMW
Pros
Distinctive looks really stand out
Nimble handling for an EV
Appealing cabin design
Cons
Early versions have a short range
Stiff and unsettled ride
An expensive car to buy
Read our full MINI review:
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MINI
Pros
Lively and entertaining to drive
The EV is ideal around town
John Cooper Works GP cars are very quick
Cons
The Convertible has a small boot
Ungainly looks if you choose the five-door
More powerful models can wear out tyres quickly
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Superb review. Take my money BMW. i3 shall be mine.
why? it's such a pathethic car
Mini is a BMW. Why would want to spend this much money on this rubbish?
Really good review hitting all the main points. The i3 is still ahead of its time and it is a crying shame that BMW have not given it a bigger battery and instead started to bring out big heavy EVs now.
i4 edrive40 is actually the exception + the evolution of all EV's on the market.
ugly? maybe, but the tech inside is marvellous. i4 M50 in unnecessary strong + poor value, low range.
looks like i4 edrive40 will be my next car which could be suited outside the town too with proper (smaller aero) wheel choice.
Totally agree! Love the i3; not liking the i4. Disappointing
Totally agree. Car manufacturers always seem to think we want a big car. Even if i had the funds i would not be buying a bigger car..
BMW failed on the looks of the i3. Therefore is wasn't a succes.
Some people can never look beyond appearances. This has been a fantastic car to drive.@@AmaCem
Great review nice change to see someone who doesn’t think they are a comedian
It is all in the eyes of the beholder. Here is my take on it:
I have had my “Litl’ Blue” 2017 BMW i3 BEV 33Kw 94Ah since 01/25/2021. I bought it in Florida, in showroom condition with 24k on the odometer. I’m 75 now, and drive it about 30-100 miles a month in Comfort mode with a stomped accelerator, wide open moon roof, and a big grin, mostly just to pick up online ordered groceries and to visit the VA clinic.
I use a 240V, 16A (3.84Kw) Level 2 charger in my carport routed inside my house as an ALTERNATE device to my dryer outlet and usually charge once a month. I gain 13.5 miles per hour of charging up to 124 to 137 miles. From home my electric cost is $0.031 per Mile which at an average gas price of $4.00 per gallon equates to 129 MPG. I’m a very happy i3 owner to say the very least, totally free of ICE maintenance, and I gladly splurge to pay a helper $15.00 a month from my Social Security cash to wash, vac and dry it.
If there is a more perfect EV out there, I simply don’t want it! I don’t need more range, acceleration, styling, features, reliability, comfort, handling, or value. Litl’ Blue is obviously my Forever Car. Paid $16,500 but was offered $22,400 by Edmunds/CarMax 4 months ago which tickled my worn out ego. 36% appreciation on a used car in just over a year is certainly a first ever for me even on my ‘69 427ci/435hp Vette back in 1975. You may name yours too as you would any other loved pet. 🚙
Shame the i3 is not being continued, wud have been interesting to see how BMW wud have updated and progressed the i3. Having been in one regularly I have to agree with everything u have said about it and it's handling, great car and really nice interior keeping it fresh and modern.
Love the description of the BMW 'falling into a corner' - I know exactly what you mean! Having had a 94aH REx for about 3 months I can confirm it has to be one of the best cars I have ever owned, as far as running costs go, it is doing an average of 4.1 miles per KWh so is costing me about 1.2 pence per mile to run! Took some getting used to, but I love driving it and its turning circle beats the Smart fortwo that I had before it by a country mile!
Great review watched it to see what you thought of the Mini and was pleasantly suprised!
This is a great review with all the information you could need when considering both, I have the 2020 i3 and agree with all her points- for me if you gave it one last battery upgrade, sport mode for all and the newest i-drive it would be a complete premium small ev.
Great review and spot on with the I3. I’ve had one for 2 years and it’s far better than most evs out there. I’m in no rush to change it, if anything I would get another one.
I agree.
Love Vicky’s reviews which are always clear and to the point!
I’ve been driving an i3 since 2014 and I’m still impressed with this car. Handling, construction and efficiency, especially with Pretoria prices being higher in the U.S..I doubt there with ever be another car constructed like the i3. The BMW plant in Leipzig is another construction marvel powered by renewables. Excellent review of these two cars!
Great reviewer. I will be following your reviews. Great work
Great video. I’ve got an i3 as my first ev, I’ve had it for a month I’m really enjoying driving it! So quick off the mark so much easier to handle and park than the 3 series gt I had before. And space wise I’ve lost a LOT compared to the GT but there’s plenty of space in the car for my family (2 adults and a toddler) still feels nice and airy
I was not fond of the i3 looks when it came out, but now I love it. Thanks for the great review and comparison.
Good review and mirrors my own thoughts with my I3Rex. I love the styling and rapid acceleration,even now it still looks cutting edge when parked next to other cars. Its such a shame that BMW didn't develop this car as planned with different body styles, they lost all their early gains in the ev world
Nice video. I still really like the i3, I wish they’d update the battery again!
Mini is safer tho.
@@BB-gy1iw isnt i3 made from a lot of carbon fiber tho? It should be safer
@@creatineenjoyer7345 carbon fibre is flexible. It will squeeze. B pillar protects in case of a rollover
That's how to pack in a ton of information about 2 cars in just 12 minutes.
Have been shopping recently for a newer EV to replace my '16 i3. I think I'll just get a newer i3. Great review! 👍
Pretty much agree with most of this from my experience with my i3. Calm drive most of the time when you're used to the steering (and the slightly weird indicators). Smooth and quiet.
You mentioned, but maybe underplayed what I perceive as the shortcomings - the awkward rear access, especially for older people and the sometimes skittish cornering. This is particularly an issue on wet roads when it understeers given the chance. The other problem is the poor drag coefficient which leads to poor motorway range.
It is a shame they've discontinued it. I'm guessing it would be down to production costs plus that the issues above are really hard to fix without returning to the drawing board. The S was a fair attempt at fixing the road holding, but it made for an even stiffer ride and worsened the motorway range. For my money, though, it was ultimately the rear access that did for it.
Good review and should answer the main questions people may have. I love the Mini and as a city/commuter car fits the bill whereas I am learning to really appreciate the i3 and also fits the city/commuter car but can carry real people and more stuff.
Great video! Love my i3 🤗
I've had an i3 for 4 years now and it's great especially around town where the turning circle and it's eagerness off the mark are top notch making it the ideal commute car. Completely intend to drive it to death however those rear doors are shocking, not only are they awkward in tight spots they have an occasional habit of unlocking whilst driving which is a bit disconcerting. Such a shame that BMW are dropping it for the i4.
the rear doors have magnetic sensors that are rather sensitive (lol) if you close the doors with more force then you wont have to deal with that issue
yes those -ucking rear doors i was dozing in the car my wife came along opened the front door to open the rear door to put the grandchildren in and strangled me with my seat belt...
The i3 gets forgotten too often by auto journalists. I still think the i3 is a very modern choice, it still looks cutting edge on the outside, and for front occupants, the interior is fabulous and spacious. The construction from aluminium, CFRP and plastic panels make for a car that will last and is light weight. However BMW has forgotten to keep it evolving, perhaps thinking it is end of life, which is silly, because it still has wow factor. The i3 needs improved DC charging, 55kWh traction battery and some improvements to ride quality and cabin noise. I own a 2019 120Ah BEV i3, as a daily commuter this is a fantastic car, pre-conditioning makes frosty mornings a delight, sooo cheap to run, joyous place to be with that huge windscreen.
solid review, led to to a convinced buy
I got my i3 120 and really enjoying it 👍🏻
Owned i3 for a week and really love it. Even here in Finland it is -20 celsius pure winter, that little car feels unbeatable. Fun to drive, great performance and awesome look. Total fun-machine
Thanks for sharing!
Brilliant review.
i3 REx driver in rural western USA.
People still ask "What is that?!!"
Was expecting lots of issues buying a used BMW, but it's done 23k trouble-free miles in one year while consuming only 21 gallons of gasoline.
Our home electric rates (near Mt Rainier) are only $.10 per kilowatt, so running costs are very favorable.
My i3 REX has done 91000 km with 1 l/ 100 km average. I’ll keep it long. The electricity mainly comes from my PV. I pay 34 cent EUR per kWh from the grid imagine that. They recently added more CO2 tax in Germany. What a bulls… administration.
Just came across this - hadn't seen it before. Great summary of both and I agree with most of the points. I came from an ICE mini cooper to a BMW i3S - rex, and absolutely love the car. As you say the i3 still feels modern and sort of like a concept car even nearly 10 years on from design which is pretty incredible really. I love it so much I just ordered a new i3S. The S version does give the i3 the same power as the mini (and it's a bit faster due to the weight) and more stability so it is a bit better drive. I will have a mini again in the future I'm absolutely sure but I'm taking my (probably last) chance to get a new i3S before they disappear for good - which will be a very sad day.
Thanks for your kind words.
For the money and capacity of the battery I prefer the mini all doubt the I3 is still a brilliant product especially if you need more space. Brilliant review as always.
As a 2021 Mini Cooper SE owner… And with a family of four… To being a one year old and four year old… I just have to laugh whenever I hear it’s not a family car… You just need to be creative. I found a rooftop box is a great way to extend luggage capacity while keeping a stroller and diaper bag in the back for a quick grab on the road
I rented one and spent most of the time driving round to find charging points and kicking my heels drinking coffee, queuing and then waiting for it to charge. OK for towns if you can charge at home This should be mentioned its part of a buying decision, its like having a car with no petrol stations.
We have two i3's an i3 and an i3S I've test drove a mini electric and a think you have the review just about right. Neither is ment to be a family car. But definitely satisfy the inner boy/girl racer. Ment for those who refuse to grow old.
I’m in my 70s but still love the traffic lights gran prix. Bye-bye golf GTi every time. 😬
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@@garrycroft4215Nice 🙂
What are the driving differences between your i3 and i3s?
Also is it worth it to upgrade to i3s or just stick to the regular i3?
@@RB-es1vx it's a more sporty feel and slightly quicker with the i3S. If comfort is more your thing the standard i3 would be for you but still that is on the sports feel also.
Your review was examplary!🏆 Well done 👍 Ps. I need an I3S to compliment my Mini GP2.
Great review, nailing the key points. I've driven only the i3s and loved it. I think it's more stable than the i3 due to the wider tyres and lowered suspension, though the ride might be even firmer. Did they change the ride in the mini when upgrading in 2021?
Great music!
It all looks very sleek, I like it.
I’d like to review your review: Very good.
I was testing BMW i3 and was so impressed with the build quality, how it drives and the range 😊 on 48% battery I have managed to do 96miles getting around 5.1-5.2 m/kwh Shame as I didn't like the one pedal driving as found it to aggressive.
Had two i3’s but now have two Tesla Model 3’s. Better charging in US for Tesla. I loved the i3, which is very nimble 👍
I want to buy a BMW I3 even though it's being discontinued. Will it continue to be available after production stops in July 2022? Will support and service be a challenge? Will spare parts be impossible to find?
Pricing in the UK really confuses me sometimes. Here in the States, the Mini (starts at $29k and tops out at $38k) is so much cheaper than the i3 (which *starts* at $45k!) whereas it seems in the UK the opposite is true. Fully loaded, a Mini SE is still many thousands cheaper than a bare bones i3.
Also, rear windows don't open so claustrophobia will be popular. Also, both these autos have the second highest depreciation in the U.S.
One thing that turned me oof with the i3 when I first saw it were the bicycle tires it has, but it drives a whole lot better than what you’d expect with the wagon wheels. If anything, I think the claims of the really thin tires making it more resistant to hydroplaning could be true.
Ordered the SE. Maybe the next one would be an i3
Would have liked a drop top i3 super s with two 180hp motors, one driving each rear wheel, allowing for torque vectoring.
I've always thought the i3 has such WOW factor - it looks like absolutely nothing else out there on the road.
The MINI is lovely, too - it just oozes quality and style - but, as you have said, too, Vicky, surely it's a no-brainer to give the 5dr model the same battery treatment, especially as the i3 is soon to be discontinued...
Anyhow, great review :-)
I have a i3 and it gets looks in the car park . I love mine
Yeah great review will be replacing my 2014 i3 with a newer version in 2 years.
Hope it goes well! And thanks for the kind comment.
So much BMW could have done with the i3s such as a wider tyre option or Tesla style over the air updates for acceleration/range. Still a good car though.
Very well written, clear, comprehensive yet to the point review. I note your comment about the i3 being fine on the motorway yet most comments I've read on forums say it is twitchy at speed and quite susceptible to cross winds.
Depending on the rims and tires. She was driving with the 20” summer tires and it’s rock solid at any speed. If you have non-BMW winter tires on 19” wheels it can be skittish at high speed.
No idea why she didn’t use the i3s with its lower height and wider track and fatter tyres ? it’s only £1,000 more than the i3 but in a different league. The handling especially, also quicker too.
Very good, even-handed review; well done.
Had my i3 for over a year and done - reduced due to lockdown - 7,200 miles; with an average of 3.8 miles/kW (including a good mix of urban and motorway). Love the car, and couldn't be happier with it. Yes, the coach doors can be a bit awkward. The level of tech is really very impressive, especially considering that the car was introduced in 2013, so it's almost 10 years old from that perspective; I'm a big fan of the active cruise control and the regen/1-pedal driving is bliss. It's a pity that it looks like BMW is closing the books on the i3, as it would be great to see this car live on, and simply collect a bit more of the newer tech (heads-up, touchscreen, etc), and maybe another battery refresh to give it a genuine 200+ mile range... Will be sad to eventually part company with such an iconic car.
Mini with 4 doors and 50kW battery will make carbon fiber i3 superfluous, it was an expensive experiment that did not sell very well nor looked that good (unless black, which covered weird lines), otherwise, BMW would not need to sell their stake in carbon fiber mass production capabilities, thus killing intend to mass-produce carbon fiber cars in near future.
That has been said, the current electric Mini should really step up its range as it barely holds up against grandpa i3, mostly due to a better price, far less against many current city oriented EVs, not to mention upcoming competition from China that will be cheaper, yet better in things that matter the most.
I'm watching lots of i3 reviews with a plan to buy one. Please can you tell me how the wheels fair on badly maintained roads, from a cracking point of view? My husband has a constant problem with cracked alloy wheels in a Mercedes which is extremely expensive to manage. Other than that one query, I'm sold!
Nice review but missed the Mini achilles heel. The satnav and GOM are very inaccurate and misleading. I3 could do with better charging rate in 2021 its a bit slow and shame they have stopped making it :(
To be fair, in 2013 not many of us would think the i3 would be one day compared to a mini.
Both great little cars.
Troubling BMW did not continue developing the i3 and even produce a new updated model, given what we know now about the future of EV’s. Very odd?
Little disappointed that BMW didn't create a RHD version of the centre button cluster, Seems weird that the volume and fan controls are so far away from the driver. Must be more or less impossible to read those small arrows showing what heater flaps are in use in a RHD car...
Driven both cars Both cars fantastic to drive
Shame the price are quite out of touch for such a small car,
BMW I3 being oldest the info screen need updating.
Mini with 4 doors and 50kW battery will make carbon fiber i3 superfluous, it was an expensive experiment that did not sell very well nor looked that good (unless black, which covered weird lines), otherwise, BMW would not need to sell their stake in carbon fiber mass production capabilities, thus killing intend to mass-produce carbon fiber cars in near future.
That has been said, the current electric Mini should really step up its range as it barely holds up against grandpa i3, mostly due to a better price, far less against many current city oriented EVs, not to mention upcoming competition from China that will be cheaper, yet better in things that matter the most.
Mini electric should have been built using carbon fiber reinforced poly like i3 for weight reduction. I’d love to see a mini with weight under 1 ton.
Agree with the reviewers description “ built like a McLaren “ the mini as much as I love it is an ice car with a transplant.
Why did you not review the i3s against the mini S ? It’s only £1,000 more expensive. With its wider wheels it’s nowhere near as skittish over the bumps.
Did you know that BMW are likely to stop production of the i3 and i3s quite soon? They are already unavailable in America.
After 8 years and 100 new EVs no manufacturer has made a hot-hatch EV that even comes close to the i3S. Sorry about the rant but BMW are about to make their biggest mistake since the Gofer grill.
BMW i3💖❤️
Mini is miles ahead ❤
i3 tires are very expensive, check it out.
How do these two cars compete with Tesla and BYD.
BMW i3 is a great commuting car but get the proper finish and options and it is just far too expensive for a small car..
It will hold a washing machine in the back with the seats down. It will beat a BMW M3 to 30mph. It won't rust ... Ever .
@@MILKYBAR1969 Not to mention there will never ever be a CF mass produced car ever again.
Could care less about the price, paid more for my i3s than our Model 3. If they came out with a new improved one I would pay full price for that too regardless of depreciation. There is just nothing else like it, and to me that is worth the money.
@@samueltolentino322 I really do hope you are wrong on that one.
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trivia the i3's electric drivetrain is not BMW's own work but came from a British engineering firm.
I’d love to get an i3, but would need a bigger range of say a realistic 200 miles and even better if it was a twin motor and all wheel drive
Then I could have it as my only car
Hopefully next facelift as there’s no point remaking it as it still looks unique and futuristic
Drove the mini and it drives even better than an ice version, possibly because of the instant power and lower cg from the battery weight , but well less than 100 miles in the real world D’oh !!!
If I had to change cars I'd go for the BMW but what I own I reckon will see me out driving wise, so why exchange to Electric?
I want to like the i3, i really do. But it's ugly as sin, and the wheels are far too thin. Gotta be the mini for sheer fun.
145 miles? That's not what all the other reviews say LMAO
They are both several 10k too expensive in comparison to Model 3. The reason you should buy a top spec'ed i3s for 50k+ is just for the future classic it's going to be bc discontinued for ugly i4
You should have dropped into COSTCO on the test drive to let us see how many packs on toilet rolls they can accommodate.
Both cars look extremely well made and stylish. I prefer the mini interior to that of the BMW i3.
Shame BMW couldn’t fit the i3 battery in the Mini
They did, well most of it. The Mini's drivetrain is 100% i3, just with fewer cells.
Mini with 4 doors and 50kW battery will make carbon fiber i3 superfluous, it was an expensive experiment that did not sell very well nor looked that good (unless black, which covered weird lines), otherwise, BMW would not need to sell their stake in carbon fiber mass production capabilities, thus killing intend to mass-produce carbon fiber cars in near future.
That has been said, the current electric Mini should really step up its range as it barely holds up against grandpa i3, mostly due to a better price, far less against many current city oriented EVs, not to mention upcoming competition from China that will be cheaper, yet better in things that matter the most.
Th fast charge on Mini makes up for some of the downsides of smaller battery. Depending on charging station availability, the Mini could take a road trip!🙂
how do I get an I3 and lose 70% of the purchase price in 2 years? Yes, please!
😭😂🤣😅...
Trust me ALL new cars depreciate in a very similar fashion. The i3 is no worst than; Audi, Mercedes-Benz, etc.🙈
@@rob3018 my 2019 model 3 and 2018 model 3 are worth easily what I paid and mostly likely more
It's a nice mini... they ruined the green though :(
Agree! BRG #4 is not BRG! The Rebel Green on JCW is much better! Wish it was available on all models.
Bmw way better in all respects unfortunately it's too expensive and it's been discontinued
None of these two cars is the best, not by a long shot!
I agree, both are several years behind in terms of the motor/ battery management, infortainment system, total range, acceleration etc compared to any Tesla models, Ioniq 5 and EV6.
Isn't i3 going on the chop pretty soon?
Not for a few years
@@HarvestMoonRadio good to know that, is it an official BMW statement? Not so long ago the rumour was that once iX3 starts production i3 will be done.
It’s coming off sale in the US. But will continue to be produced for elsewhere
@@z00h I believe the date being talked about in 2024 by BMW
@@z00h depending on where you live: ix3 is not coming to North America.
Definitely mini after watching the missing B pillar in I3
Fallacy the B pillar is Attached to the rear coach doors.
Go take a look, a test drive of both will change your mind.
This comparison has already been done.. nothing new.
The mini is just too mini for normal overweight people.
Mini 8s not a premium car
i3 wheels are so biscuity, motorbike wheels
Tesla blows these cars out of the water! Why compromise?
A small expensive BMW EV or a small expensive BMW EV? I would probably choose a Kia.
Both awful!
the i3 was a car full of potential - then they made it slow
corruption leads to incompetence (corruption is a dead end world)
Neither of them is "the best small, premium EV."
So every 100 miles you have to stop for 45 minutes to 'top it up'?
Utterly useless for most people
Why? The average person in the U.K. drives 20 miles a day
@@ifyouarefeelingsinister The range will be even less in the winter.
@@Silver-st2zq so let’s be ungenerous and say it only does 60 over winter, it’s still 3 days driving for the average person. It wouldn’t suit everyone (including myself) but it’s really not difficult to charge it over night twice a week
@@ifyouarefeelingsinister It won't suit everyone including yourself, while a ICE car suits everyone there lies the problem, along with if you do decide to go on a few summer hoildays across the country your going to have to public change how many times? and depending on the area find a charging point that is also working and ideally not being used at the time.
@@ifyouarefeelingsinister May as well have an electric scooter to go work lol and a ICE vehicle for use at the weekend but lithium battery mining is not exactly great on the environment and how "Green" is the energy used to charge up?
Tesla model the beats both, leves them both in the dust in every category and more.
Hard yo brlive anyone would even consider BMW.
BMW not offering a 5 door Mini Electric on purpose - No one would buy an i3, obvious really!
Unfortunately, the i3 is hideous looking. It’s one of the ugliest cars ever made.
The MINI is a Classic!
The i3 will never be.
Are you kidding? There will never ever be a car like the i3 again. Ever. You will not see another mass produced carbon fibre car like this, even Mclaren doesn't use a full CF cell like this.
Mini with 4 doors and 50kW battery will make carbon fiber i3 superfluous, it was an expensive experiment that did not sell very well nor looked that good (unless black, which covered weird lines), otherwise, BMW would not need to sell their stake in carbon fiber mass production capabilities, thus killing intend to mass-produce carbon fiber cars in near future.
That has been said, the current electric Mini should really step up its range as it barely holds up against grandpa i3, mostly due to a better price, far less against many current city oriented EVs, not to mention upcoming competition from China that will be cheaper, yet better in things that matter the most.
I really don't like either, the BMW is hideously ugly and the MASSIVE has no range.
I do like both, shame about the range though. Maybe future generations will improve on that front
@@mendistudio I don't mind the MASSIVE's looks but the i3 is just so ugly to me lol.
@@mendistudio I have an I3S and I regularly get 180 + range and have become very adept at planning longer journeys. When people say their car can do 600 miles on a tank of fuel they are missing the point. I don't think you should drive for more than 2.5 hours without stopping. Parking time is charging time and you don't need to charge fully on the road, 80% gives 140 +miles. I have owned Porsches and Mercedes and a host of other cars and the I3s is by far the most fun. Especially the traffic light Grand Prix. BMW used to say this was the quickest BMW to 30 mph in their entire range.
@@portalarchitecture8692 i3S for its price hardly making sense, regardless of i3 being tech achievement in 2013.
Mini with 4 doors and 50kW battery will make carbon fiber i3 superfluous, it was an expensive experiment that did not sell very well nor looked that good (unless black, which covered weird lines), otherwise, BMW would not need to sell their stake in carbon fiber mass production capabilities, thus killing intend to mass-produce carbon fiber cars in near future.
That has been said, the current electric Mini should really step up its range as it barely holds up against grandpa i3, mostly due to a better price, far less against many current city oriented EVs, not to mention upcoming competition from China that will be cheaper, yet better in things that matter the most.