15:38 Bailey predicts the future. Pretty amazing commentary when you think about it. Watching this whole race, Bailey is the sum of what all of us want in a commentator. He gives real time insights we could only dream of today, and he does with the classic David Bailey style he raced with. Amazing.
Man just look how gnarly the tracks were back then. The tracks back then really separated the great riders from good riders. The tracks today have become so perfectly designed/groomed that its become much easier for everyone to dial in the track. These tracks were so much more physically demanding on the riders.
You are right. The FIM now dictates how our SX and national tracks are made, and they are made to try to make the racers all the same speed. Today, the 65hp 450's don't even need any corner speed to clear the next straight, and the rhythm sections are specifically designed to keep everybody the same speed as much as possible. It all hurts the talent of the USA racers, which is why we can't win the MXofN anymore,---as the FIM laughs their fat azzes of in their offices. Deport the FIM from USA racing. The FIM, as the socialists they are, do not want to see a individual great racer like RC ever again, and today's tracks are making sure we will not see true greatness again.
God damn some of you Americans are so entitled. Just because an American isn't winning mxon doesn't mean there is some worldwide socialist conspiracy against you, maybe americans just aren't any better than anyone else?
God I miss these old days, I like the modern marvels also, but these were the golden years of the sport! It was bigger than ever before including the current era. The modern thumpers are so damn expensive to own and maintain that working class families have a real tough time participating. These were the days, and RC was... and still is the PEOPLE'S CHAMP!
Also, look at the presentation. Back then we heard more bike sounds through the tv. And we heard Ricky's mechanic talk to him. Now, that would never be. Everything is too sofisticated.
Yea "mark Me" is correct. The 70's and 80's was when the sport was the largest in the USA, even with almost no TV coverage. And the reason is exactly what you said. My family moved to a rural area in Michigan in 74 when I was 10. All the kids living there were riding the Yamaha mini-enduro 60cc bike, (the bike that kicks off the 1971 movie, "On any Sunday", with the fat guy riding it,--and the sound is dubbed with a 4-stroke engine believe it or not). My Dad bought a little store on the side of the rural highway, and I made $1.00/hr for the next six years. I bought a new bike every 2 years with that money, and gas was only .50 cents a gallon. 5 to 7 times the bikes were sold in the USA compared to today, and probably 3 times more in 1998. It was the production rule in 1986 that first started making bikes expensive, (the FIM told the AMA to do it, but Europe still rode factory works bikes, and still do to some extent). My first 250 was used, a 82 YZ in 84, for $850.00, (which is about what I paid for my first three new smaller 125cc bikes in 76,78,80), but in 86, my new 250 YZ costs $2,300. My new Honda CR250 1988 cost $3,600. My last bike was a one year old 1997 KX250, and was in new shape, for $4,300,----and all the trails and tracks we made as kids are all grown in. This sport is on it's last legs, as far as a average guy being able to afford it,-(I think I will get one more carburetor YZ250 2-stroke before I die.),-and it is mostly the fault of the socialist FIM. Also, from the 70's and 80's, watching the manufactures come out with something new and usually better every year,---was just as exciting as the racing. I think "the grass roots era" of every sport, and every industry was the most exciting, because we were the people bringing something new into existence. Now we watch global organizations like the global environmentalists telling the FIM what to do, and the FIM telling the AMA what to do, and watch them destroy everything we built. To end, can that "Peoples champ" crap. That comes from socialism/communism also. RC raced for himself, and he would not have existed if he had to race for anybody else.
@@breddary Is it sophistication or dysfunction we are looking at today? The line between the two seems very thin to me. For example, we love the newer technology that made cell phones possible. But our 70's land line phones were crystal clear, and never dropped a call. Sophisticated, or dysfunctional?
It was pretty incredible. He was the Tiger Woods of Motocross, everyone loved RC. Usually the guy who wins all the time gets some hate, but everyone seemed to love RC.
Yeah first race of every professional Motorsport is just about always sold out that means nothing. Show me the middle of the season or towards the end then you’ll see how your sport is doing.
Good days I have to admit, but a rider today has alot more skill than in the 90s. Likewise wise fmx, took a long time for someone to land 1 backflip, now there's 2, and 3. Pros these days on the same bike would have seconds off their lap time (in my opinion)
grew up sitting on papas lap watching ricky rise to god level. him dads boss and our baby sitters son. met ricky multiple times and always was the nicest person
Earned his first #1 plate here, and kept one of them for the rest of his 10.5 year career. 15 championships, will never be beat in our regressive future. We are all "average" already. Deport the FIM!
I would say the 4-stroke and today's FIM tracks made the USA racers slower, and we have the MXofN results to prove it. You don't even need corner speed with today's SX tracks with a 65hp monster bike that can clear the next straight from a dead stop in the corner. Does that make us faster? Is that "progress"? We have MXofN results to prove we have "regressed". But enjoy your own world, even if it is fake. There is no racer today, who could beat RC, both on a two stroke, on this or any track.
I sure wish there was footage available from a headcam on Ricky’s lid from almost ANY of the old races from this era! Especially of Carmichael on a 1-2-5👏👍
I was at that race (most of the Silverdome's races back then) as a spectator (my racing days were about done by then). We, (anybody with a brain) knew RC was special, but I would not have guessed, at that time, that he would go on to win 15 championships. The most championships at the time was 7, I believe. It was about then that I figured he would win 15. It might have been a lucky guess, but that is when I realized just how special RC was/is. When new talent came up to challenge him, he just kept raising the bar like no other racer has ever done. Well, records are made to be broken. But when the bar is set for a long 10.5 year pro career, retiring with about a 83% "WIN" average,---good luck. There is only one pro athlete, in all of man's history in any sport, (that I know of), who had a better career record. I can't remember his name, but he was a bicycle racer from Europe (I think), and he ended up being a co-founder of Indian motorcycles. Not exact figures here, but out of about 400 races, he lost about 3.
convex man: I don't know how full the stadiums are today, I have not been to a SX race for over a decade. But it does seem to take a Jim Weinert, Bob Hannah, Rick Johnson, Jeremy McGrath or RC to fill them up. Today, the SX tracks are so boring and repetitive, you don't need to see more than one.
@mars Funny how what I say effects your psyche I didn't mean to cramp your style. In this country you can say whatever you want. That's what's so great. Not a great way to make friends. If friends isnt your point than what is it? Didnt your mother teach you, "if you dont have anything nice to say than dont say anything at all?" I remember my grandma used to say that. Oh well you cant please everyone. Hope your having a better day.
This sport helped greatly form my life. I even port small 2-stroke engines for a living today because of this sport, and I can't stand SX either, and MX is not far behind. The problem is, the FIM runs our racing today in the USA,, (The AMA is just an arm of the FIM, not independent), and they are responsible for about 70% of the decline of this once great sport. If we want to save the sport from extinction, (as far as a sport we can participate in), we have to Deport the FIM from USA racing.
@@EarthSurferUSA That's awesome it has formed your life for the better, I love racing Grand prix races they just seem to have a more laid back atmosphere. I ride here in Az so it's a mix of motox and desert. Yea I have not paid much attention to the FIM but it seems like someone always has their hand in the cookie jar.
The ‘new’ tracks suck compared to these older tracks. These tracks allow for creativity and imagination to set faster lap times. The new tracks have almost the exact same rhythm for every rider and class. RC was great! And I loved the way he destroyed his wheels on his cool-down lap! Biggest whips ever!
Carmichael humbled himself so much, starting with the boos from the King entrance in the 250'w (I think it was 2002), then even more so since then. I love seeing his interview when he was mentally the destroyer and knew it. I love humility, and I love RC, but it's cool to watch him saying it like it is - I'm the best and no one can f*ck with me,
Got a chance to talk with RC at gainsville before he went mitch team an johnny Omara was able to keep RC focused RC had a great mechanic in chad watts super solid wrench RC was so solid of a rider....just really focused from day one...
It took another 14 championships to become the Goat. What does it take to become a Godfather in your mind, a punk racer who won one 125 regional SX race, (and ghosted his bike over the finish line, like as moron), who has not shot heroin? That "Godfather" would probably be in jail with out MX. If you were to describe a hero for your kids to look up to, which would your really choose?
Man, they rode so much different then! I think they had to rely more on using their body to maneuver the bikes over the track than today. The new bikes are so improved, modern supercross is finesse and fitness. I love it all!
Zachary Kelley has nothing to do with the bikes. It just that riding style has origressed as well as overall skill. Watch someone like chad reed, villopoto or roczen ride an old two stroke. They ride it exactly like a modern bike. Riding skills and technique gets better as time goes on. Freestyle motocross is a good example of this but it happens in all sports.
@@AndyCallumVLOG Bingo!!! We have not won a MXofN in a while either, and these kids (including the younger pro racers today), think these tracks are challenging enough to make us the best in the world again. Not with the FIM in charge, telling us what to race, (4-strokes) and what to race on, (easy tracks). You don't even need corner speed to clear the next straight of a SX track today. Does that make us faster? Oh hell no!
RC, 150 points going into Pontiac, won every race so far, (math says Pontiac is the 7th round of the series). Why can't a racer dominate like that today? Because the FIM makes the tracks so every body is the same speed, as much as they can. If you can't win 4 races in a row, you can gain the confidence to be great like RC was.
Look at the size of the spectator! Now thats a sold out stadium Today's races they say they sold out but they are empty ASF..like St Louis SX this year! Empty
The old Pontiac Silver Done I was at this race that place would be packed all the up the upper seats nose bleed treadhead lol seats! The SX races today hardly fill the seats past the lower 2 bowls!
@@ericd.4253 Michigan guy here too, and it was never that full. The upper deck may have had a few stragglers, but was pretty much empty. But the place held 85 thousand people. About 32 thousand, (give or take 5 thousand), was pretty normal. It was also when a racer was dominating, like Hannah, Johnson, McGrath, and RC, when the attendance was the best. But also attendance tends to be better when people can afford to buy a bike. I can't believe I out lived the Pontiac Silverdome, (I remember when it was built as a kid), and I believe I am going to outlive the sport of Motocross, which started in the USA when I was a kid also, just a few years before the Silverdome was built.
This was back when you had to have good corner speed to clear the next section and we barely had enough power to do it. Today, with 65hp, they could stop at the beginning of every corner, and clear the next section. Corner speed became a reduced factor. Does that make us faster or slower?
Art Eckman (color) and David Bailey, (One of the best racers MX has ever seen, until 1987--broken back.). He was nick named 'The little professor", because his dad, Gary Bailey, was an early pro, and started teaching racing. They were one of the, if not the, first vid taping competition to help David form his own style. Watch the 1986 Motocross des nations on youtube, to see some of the best of David Bailey. Sad when he broke his back. I remember where I was like JFK being shot by the driver.
@@NateDogMXtv The tracks are designed to flow,--so a fat tank 4-stroke does not look so slow. Tracks used to challenge the pros, and upset "flow", and it separated the men from the boys. You guys might as well be racing road racing. The sport of Motocross will be dead within 2 decades. Enjoy what you can. It was an amazing sport, and I enjoyed it almost from the beginning in the USA.
I’ve just watched a video of James steward in his 125 sx days and have to say imo he was a level above Ricky on a 125 ,, it may only be the 2 videos I’ve watched back to back but steward looked on fire
Reynard didn't need a 2nd place to boost his f-ing confidence...go search for *_1998 Unadilla 125 MX Moto 1_* & watch as Carmichael gets a huge lead & watch Reynard come from a mediocre start, catch Carmichael, pass him, and Carmichael not be able to stick with him...
This is back before Stewart "crashed" his career away... James didn't invent that tactic. McGrath did. Just look back at 1996. McGrath was doing that long before Stewart even thought about it!
+Sam Smith Not exactly. Front wheel landings,(slightly was OK, but going for landing both at the same time), were done as the jumps got bigger with nice down slopes to land on. The new idea, because of the jumps getting larger (back in my hey day) was so you can use the down slope and accelerate as fast as possible, not waiting for the front end to touch down. Pro riders have brought new tricks to the sport, from Kent Howerton inventing "clutching it" in a taller gear out of corners (other pro riders had to actually see from the side of the track, why Howerton was going so fast out of the corners, with that under powered Husky at the time), to David Bailey inventing "hitting the rear brake in the air",--(with clutch pulled in of course), to level out a high front end in the air,--- and many more I am sure. What James brought (But does not seem able to do as well on the heavier 4-strokes) was called "The Bubba Scrub", as he figured out a way to leave a jump face and fly about 2 feet lower than every body else. That was probably worth over .25 seconds for every jump he did it on. He would actually wash out his front wheel on the face of the jump, leaning the bike over so much, that the inside foot peg would drag on the face of the jump lip. The result was about 2 more mph through the air, a lower trajectory (less distance flying through the air), while landing on the same down slope as the slower riders and accelerating away from the guy he just passed, since he was going 2 mph faster in the first place. It was a hard trick for the other riders to figure out (most never did figure it out), but seems to have disappeared as the racers switched to the porky 4-strokes. To this day (if we ever see James race again), it might be a advantage for him to be on a really good, and light 2-stroke--so he can bring back the "Bubba Scrub".
+EarthSurferUSA Ohhh---sorry. The front wheel landings started in the 80's. That is when the jumps started getting big, and it was super exciting, for me anyway, to see how the bikes were getting better every year, while I could still afford to buy one. Yep, we bought our own as kids back then,---which also disappeared in the 80's.
I'm talking about exactly what you are talking about! Before JS there was not that many if any riders that intentionally brought the front wheel down first. Now days it is common knowledge. I think we are saying the same thing.
Back when supercross was worth watching! It ain't like it was back then.
15:38 Bailey predicts the future. Pretty amazing commentary when you think about it. Watching this whole race, Bailey is the sum of what all of us want in a commentator. He gives real time insights we could only dream of today, and he does with the classic David Bailey style he raced with. Amazing.
Man just look how gnarly the tracks were back then. The tracks back then really separated the great riders from good riders. The tracks today have become so perfectly designed/groomed that its become much easier for everyone to dial in the track. These tracks were so much more physically demanding on the riders.
You are right. The FIM now dictates how our SX and national tracks are made, and they are made to try to make the racers all the same speed. Today, the 65hp 450's don't even need any corner speed to clear the next straight, and the rhythm sections are specifically designed to keep everybody the same speed as much as possible. It all hurts the talent of the USA racers, which is why we can't win the MXofN anymore,---as the FIM laughs their fat azzes of in their offices. Deport the FIM from USA racing. The FIM, as the socialists they are, do not want to see a individual great racer like RC ever again, and today's tracks are making sure we will not see true greatness again.
Technically you can thank Carmichael for that.
Brutal track, we need to get back to this.
That 2 tiered table top thing on the back was sick.
God damn some of you Americans are so entitled. Just because an American isn't winning mxon doesn't mean there is some worldwide socialist conspiracy against you, maybe americans just aren't any better than anyone else?
God I miss these old days, I like the modern marvels also, but these were the golden years of the sport! It was bigger than ever before including the current era. The modern thumpers are so damn expensive to own and maintain that working class families have a real tough time participating. These were the days, and RC was... and still is the PEOPLE'S CHAMP!
70s and 80s were the golden years my friend , 90s and 2000s silver .
Also, look at the presentation. Back then we heard more bike sounds through the tv.
And we heard Ricky's mechanic talk to him. Now, that would never be. Everything is too sofisticated.
Yea "mark Me" is correct. The 70's and 80's was when the sport was the largest in the USA, even with almost no TV coverage. And the reason is exactly what you said. My family moved to a rural area in Michigan in 74 when I was 10. All the kids living there were riding the Yamaha mini-enduro 60cc bike, (the bike that kicks off the 1971 movie, "On any Sunday", with the fat guy riding it,--and the sound is dubbed with a 4-stroke engine believe it or not). My Dad bought a little store on the side of the rural highway, and I made $1.00/hr for the next six years. I bought a new bike every 2 years with that money, and gas was only .50 cents a gallon. 5 to 7 times the bikes were sold in the USA compared to today, and probably 3 times more in 1998. It was the production rule in 1986 that first started making bikes expensive, (the FIM told the AMA to do it, but Europe still rode factory works bikes, and still do to some extent). My first 250 was used, a 82 YZ in 84, for $850.00, (which is about what I paid for my first three new smaller 125cc bikes in 76,78,80), but in 86, my new 250 YZ costs $2,300. My new Honda CR250 1988 cost $3,600. My last bike was a one year old 1997 KX250, and was in new shape, for $4,300,----and all the trails and tracks we made as kids are all grown in. This sport is on it's last legs, as far as a average guy being able to afford it,-(I think I will get one more carburetor YZ250 2-stroke before I die.),-and it is mostly the fault of the socialist FIM. Also, from the 70's and 80's, watching the manufactures come out with something new and usually better every year,---was just as exciting as the racing. I think "the grass roots era" of every sport, and every industry was the most exciting, because we were the people bringing something new into existence. Now we watch global organizations like the global environmentalists telling the FIM what to do, and the FIM telling the AMA what to do, and watch them destroy everything we built.
To end, can that "Peoples champ" crap. That comes from socialism/communism also. RC raced for himself, and he would not have existed if he had to race for anybody else.
@@breddary Is it sophistication or dysfunction we are looking at today? The line between the two seems very thin to me.
For example, we love the newer technology that made cell phones possible. But our 70's land line phones were crystal clear, and never dropped a call. Sophisticated, or dysfunctional?
It was pretty incredible. He was the Tiger Woods of Motocross, everyone loved RC. Usually the guy who wins all the time gets some hate, but everyone seemed to love RC.
we were at this race seated by the down hill from the stands.Very technical track ...old school Thanks for posting!!
Cannon Bannen man look how packed the stadiums were then. As a kid I watched McGrath alot
Cannon Bannen they don't get full like that now
+convex Actually, Anaheim was a sold out stadium this season (2018).
Yeah first race of every professional Motorsport is just about always sold out that means nothing. Show me the middle of the season or towards the end then you’ll see how your sport is doing.
take me back! so much cooler back then!
hah! 1 800 collect sponsored :). Takes me back.
Every time I hear that, it's a trip down memory lane. Lol. Even hearing Butterfinger crisp holeshot award sounds ancient now, lol.
aaaa back when it was.. o wow dad that guy rides a 4 stroke. weird.. lol and the smell of the 2 strokes .. dam the good ole days are gone
Sigh. The good days !
There's always, a good day.
Good days I have to admit, but a rider today has alot more skill than in the 90s. Likewise wise fmx, took a long time for someone to land 1 backflip, now there's 2, and 3. Pros these days on the same bike would have seconds off their lap time (in my opinion)
@@suzuki694 well the bikes have evolved as well as techniques
grew up sitting on papas lap watching ricky rise to god level. him dads boss and our baby sitters son. met ricky multiple times and always was the nicest person
Awesome, keep them coming!
I used to record these on 📼
Earned his first #1 plate here, and kept one of them for the rest of his 10.5 year career. 15 championships, will never be beat in our regressive future. We are all "average" already. Deport the FIM!
bEcAuSe SoCiALiSm!
Lol...
This was a lot of fun to watch but man, was really like watching today's amateurs lol riding has progressed so much.
That track was wayyyy more technical than today's tracks.
I would say the 4-stroke and today's FIM tracks made the USA racers slower, and we have the MXofN results to prove it. You don't even need corner speed with today's SX tracks with a 65hp monster bike that can clear the next straight from a dead stop in the corner. Does that make us faster? Is that "progress"? We have MXofN results to prove we have "regressed". But enjoy your own world, even if it is fake. There is no racer today, who could beat RC, both on a two stroke, on this or any track.
This is awesome! I forgot about Chad his mechanic then. Thanks for posting!
I sure wish there was footage available from a headcam on Ricky’s lid from almost ANY of the old races from this era! Especially of Carmichael on a 1-2-5👏👍
Yea, I often thought of what it looks like to go that fast before the go-pro. But now that we are in the era of the go-pro, we don't go as fast.
I always kinda looked at Robbie Reynard as the guy meant to take the spot of Mike LaRocco... if that makes sense to anyone
Robbie never quite turned out to be what everyone thought he would. Top amateur career.
Robbie has great career. Has a awesome practice facility! Beautiful family and just had baby! Awesome guy!
Yes, more please :)
That track was gnarly
Raced my kx60 on the ametuer day. Panhandle was so cool jumps insane for even ametuer on big bike.
I was at that race (most of the Silverdome's races back then) as a spectator (my racing days were about done by then). We, (anybody with a brain) knew RC was special, but I would not have guessed, at that time, that he would go on to win 15 championships. The most championships at the time was 7, I believe. It was about then that I figured he would win 15. It might have been a lucky guess, but that is when I realized just how special RC was/is. When new talent came up to challenge him, he just kept raising the bar like no other racer has ever done.
Well, records are made to be broken. But when the bar is set for a long 10.5 year pro career, retiring with about a 83% "WIN" average,---good luck.
There is only one pro athlete, in all of man's history in any sport, (that I know of), who had a better career record. I can't remember his name, but he was a bicycle racer from Europe (I think), and he ended up being a co-founder of Indian motorcycles. Not exact figures here, but out of about 400 races, he lost about 3.
EarthSurferUSA man the stadium was packed. Supercross races never get that full any more.
convex man: I don't know how full the stadiums are today, I have not been to a SX race for over a decade. But it does seem to take a Jim Weinert, Bob Hannah, Rick Johnson, Jeremy McGrath or RC to fill them up. Today, the SX tracks are so boring and repetitive, you don't need to see more than one.
G.O.A.T.
A star of the future..lol the Goat
Was there as a kid. Awesome
Better than any football game.
I dont really watch supercross anymore because theres no 2 strokes in the races.
@mars
Funny how what I say effects your psyche
I didn't mean to cramp your style.
In this country you can say whatever you want. That's what's so great.
Not a great way to make friends.
If friends isnt your point than what is it? Didnt your mother teach you, "if you dont have anything nice to say than dont say anything at all?"
I remember my grandma used to say that.
Oh well you cant please everyone.
Hope your having a better day.
Oh back when I enjoyed going to supercross, I can't stand supercross now.
This sport helped greatly form my life. I even port small 2-stroke engines for a living today because of this sport, and I can't stand SX either, and MX is not far behind. The problem is, the FIM runs our racing today in the USA,, (The AMA is just an arm of the FIM, not independent), and they are responsible for about 70% of the decline of this once great sport. If we want to save the sport from extinction, (as far as a sport we can participate in), we have to Deport the FIM from USA racing.
@@EarthSurferUSA That's awesome it has formed your life for the better, I love racing Grand prix races they just seem to have a more laid back atmosphere. I ride here in Az so it's a mix of motox and desert. Yea I have not paid much attention to the FIM but it seems like someone always has their hand in the cookie jar.
So you just watch the old SX videos then?
Ça me rappelle que de bons souvenirs
The ‘new’ tracks suck compared to these older tracks. These tracks allow for creativity and imagination to set faster lap times. The new tracks have almost the exact same rhythm for every rider and class. RC was great! And I loved the way he destroyed his wheels on his cool-down lap! Biggest whips ever!
Almost looks like it's in slow motion compared to today's 250 races
Sound💣💣💣💥💥💥
Carmichael humbled himself so much, starting with the boos from the King entrance in the 250'w (I think it was 2002), then even more so since then. I love seeing his interview when he was mentally the destroyer and knew it. I love humility, and I love RC, but it's cool to watch him saying it like it is - I'm the best and no one can f*ck with me,
Got a chance to talk with RC at gainsville before he went mitch team an johnny Omara was able to keep RC focused RC had a great mechanic in chad watts super solid wrench RC was so solid of a rider....just really focused from day one...
Brian Deegan places 7th. One man becomes GOAT, the other GODFATHER.
It took another 14 championships to become the Goat. What does it take to become a Godfather in your mind, a punk racer who won one 125 regional SX race, (and ghosted his bike over the finish line, like as moron), who has not shot heroin? That "Godfather" would probably be in jail with out MX. If you were to describe a hero for your kids to look up to, which would your really choose?
EarthSurferUSA
Bitter and chatty are never a good combination.
And ignorance isn’t bliss.
What years of Supercross races do you have? I'll be willing to upload them for you if you'd let me. :)
Anyone miss screaming down the railroad tracks in 6th gear wide open..?
Man, they rode so much different then! I think they had to rely more on using their body to maneuver the bikes over the track than today. The new bikes are so improved, modern supercross is finesse and fitness. I love it all!
+Zachary Kelley I think track design has come a long way as well.
Yeah man, for sure. And this season the tracks are starting to change more I think. It seems like a lot of the tracks have a unique feature this year
Zachary Kelley has nothing to do with the bikes. It just that riding style has origressed as well as overall skill. Watch someone like chad reed, villopoto or roczen ride an old two stroke. They ride it exactly like a modern bike. Riding skills and technique gets better as time goes on. Freestyle motocross is a good example of this but it happens in all sports.
The old supercross tracks werent as flowing, the ones today arent nearly as challenging
@@AndyCallumVLOG Bingo!!! We have not won a MXofN in a while either, and these kids (including the younger pro racers today), think these tracks are challenging enough to make us the best in the world again. Not with the FIM in charge, telling us what to race, (4-strokes) and what to race on, (easy tracks). You don't even need corner speed to clear the next straight of a SX track today. Does that make us faster? Oh hell no!
We were there and had the pit passes...
RC, 150 points going into Pontiac, won every race so far, (math says Pontiac is the 7th round of the series). Why can't a racer dominate like that today? Because the FIM makes the tracks so every body is the same speed, as much as they can. If you can't win 4 races in a row, you can gain the confidence to be great like RC was.
Just because you think you're right doesn't mean you are.
Nonsense.
Make America two stroke again
Billy Johnson keep America great 2020
@@aaronmarzec2018
Bernie 2020
🐐 🐐 🐐
Those "cross ups" at the end...🤣
I was thinking wtf is a cross up 🤣🤣
That's what it was in my day. I was off the bike for years, and when I got back into it, I had some new lingo to learn.
i kinda have seen mr ricky carmichael n gainesville n 125 class n 1997 back then
Where did you find this? lol
The G.O.A.T.
The goat
😍😍😍
Where did he do that one massive upside down whip?
Kelly smith on the pds shocker
Look at the size of the spectator! Now thats a sold out stadium Today's races they say they sold out but they are empty ASF..like St Louis SX this year! Empty
Lol facts
The old Pontiac Silver Done I was at this race that place would be packed all the up the upper seats nose bleed treadhead lol seats! The SX races today hardly fill the seats past the lower 2 bowls!
@@ericd.4253 Michigan guy here too, and it was never that full. The upper deck may have had a few stragglers, but was pretty much empty. But the place held 85 thousand people. About 32 thousand, (give or take 5 thousand), was pretty normal. It was also when a racer was dominating, like Hannah, Johnson, McGrath, and RC, when the attendance was the best. But also attendance tends to be better when people can afford to buy a bike. I can't believe I out lived the Pontiac Silverdome, (I remember when it was built as a kid), and I believe I am going to outlive the sport of Motocross, which started in the USA when I was a kid also, just a few years before the Silverdome was built.
This was back when you had to have good corner speed to clear the next section and we barely had enough power to do it. Today, with 65hp, they could stop at the beginning of every corner, and clear the next section. Corner speed became a reduced factor. Does that make us faster or slower?
I suspect socialism has caused our slow corner speed.
you can be a mike bell at 6'2 or rc at 5'4 and kick ass i love the different sizes it makes it fun i the best size is like 5'6 to 5'8 140-170 pounds
Brian Deegan racing!
Those big ears, they'll help you fly.
Also those commentators are awesome, Coombs > Ralph gayheen anyday
Funny you should say that with Carmichael poorly calling the races now. Bailey was WAY better. Coombs sucked. Art Eckman was just OK.
Who are the Commentators
Art Eckman (color) and David Bailey, (One of the best racers MX has ever seen, until 1987--broken back.). He was nick named 'The little professor", because his dad, Gary Bailey, was an early pro, and started teaching racing. They were one of the, if not the, first vid taping competition to help David form his own style. Watch the 1986 Motocross des nations on youtube, to see some of the best of David Bailey. Sad when he broke his back. I remember where I was like JFK being shot by the driver.
Both are set to return once more for this year's straight rhythm!
@SW H
EarthSurferUSA obviously didn't watch David Bailey's "The Motocross Files" episode!
Casey Lytle, I forgot all about him
I was good friends with him in HS, we used to go riding in the hills behind our homes. He was insane on anything! He'd jump anything with a slope.
Supercross isnt the same anymore. Need to to go back to 2 stroke and make it exciting again
Oj the shit outa at last triple haha
Has Mitch Payton ever been Young?? I swear he's the Morgan Freeman of Motocross 👴🏻🔂😂😂
Is it me or do the bikes look heavy. Lol
I noticed that too. I think it just faster now and flows better
@@NateDogMXtv The tracks are designed to flow,--so a fat tank 4-stroke does not look so slow. Tracks used to challenge the pros, and upset "flow", and it separated the men from the boys. You guys might as well be racing road racing. The sport of Motocross will be dead within 2 decades. Enjoy what you can. It was an amazing sport, and I enjoyed it almost from the beginning in the USA.
#5 Brian deegan
I noticed that too, I knew he raced, but I never realized he was that good at racing before he transitioned into Freestyle full time.
I’ve just watched a video of James steward in his 125 sx days and have to say imo he was a level above Ricky on a 125 ,, it may only be the 2 videos I’ve watched back to back but steward looked on fire
Reynard didn't need a 2nd place to boost his f-ing confidence...go search for *_1998 Unadilla 125 MX Moto 1_* & watch as Carmichael gets a huge lead & watch Reynard come from a mediocre start, catch Carmichael, pass him, and Carmichael not be able to stick with him...
What ever happen with the racers fins on there helmet
This is before Stewart's innovation of bringing down the front wheel first over the jumps. Back then they mostly landed on the rear wheel.
This is back before Stewart "crashed" his career away... James didn't invent that tactic. McGrath did. Just look back at 1996. McGrath was doing that long before Stewart even thought about it!
+Sam Smith
Not exactly. Front wheel landings,(slightly was OK, but going for landing both at the same time), were done as the jumps got bigger with nice down slopes to land on. The new idea, because of the jumps getting larger (back in my hey day) was so you can use the down slope and accelerate as fast as possible, not waiting for the front end to touch down.
Pro riders have brought new tricks to the sport, from Kent Howerton inventing "clutching it" in a taller gear out of corners (other pro riders had to actually see from the side of the track, why Howerton was going so fast out of the corners, with that under powered Husky at the time), to David Bailey inventing "hitting the rear brake in the air",--(with clutch pulled in of course), to level out a high front end in the air,--- and many more I am sure.
What James brought (But does not seem able to do as well on the heavier 4-strokes) was called "The Bubba Scrub", as he figured out a way to leave a jump face and fly about 2 feet lower than every body else. That was probably worth over .25 seconds for every jump he did it on. He would actually wash out his front wheel on the face of the jump, leaning the bike over so much, that the inside foot peg would drag on the face of the jump lip. The result was about 2 more mph through the air, a lower trajectory (less distance flying through the air), while landing on the same down slope as the slower riders and accelerating away from the guy he just passed, since he was going 2 mph faster in the first place.
It was a hard trick for the other riders to figure out (most never did figure it out), but seems to have disappeared as the racers switched to the porky 4-strokes.
To this day (if we ever see James race again), it might be a advantage for him to be on a really good, and light 2-stroke--so he can bring back the "Bubba Scrub".
+EarthSurferUSA
Ohhh---sorry. The front wheel landings started in the 80's. That is when the jumps started getting big, and it was super exciting, for me anyway, to see how the bikes were getting better every year, while I could still afford to buy one. Yep, we bought our own as kids back then,---which also disappeared in the 80's.
I'm talking about exactly what you are talking about! Before JS there was not that many if any riders that intentionally brought the front wheel down first. Now days it is common knowledge. I think we are saying the same thing.
EarthSurferUSA everyone scrubs today smart guy
Mike Brown was faster @ PC , ask Mitch
brian deegan lol
Pronounced Ray-nard not Ray-nerd.
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I miss Pontiac Silverdome. Saw a few SX races in there.