A Deeply Disturbed No More Heroes Complete Series Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- STRAWBERRY ON THE SHORTCAKE
spoilers for all games present
Well, this was a trip. I started with 0 expectations, and walked away pretty impressed and sympathetic, but it didn't come easy. The games are fun enough, that's not the issue - it's being a regular game guy and having to grapple with subtext and symbolism that's powdered up beyond recognition. It's a series that makes you care, and it can piss you off when your expectations aren't immediately met by the games. But being from Grasshopper, Suda51, coming from artists in the industry, they're worth paying attention to, looking past the paint.
I played the Switch versions, which are admittedly less frustrating overall (more people dislike motion controls than not, I think) so the games were probably the cleanest versions of themselves. Normal mode as usual. I shriek a couple times. We have fun here. Also I censored a ton of stuff and missed some and it sucks but man I'm on render 4 and I'm gonna headbutt someone - the best version of this video is on my (b)atreon.
I've been informed that I accidentally referred to Henry as Sylvia's wife. After reviewing the material, the internal review team has concluded that this statement is accurate.
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0:00 SUDA51 & NMH
2:07 No More Heroes 1
17:35 No More Heroes 2
29:56 Travis Strikes Again!
39:13 No More Heroes 3
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We made the music for the sushi shop with MEEBEE in No More Heroes III, and wanted to say thank you for keeping the series alive with your video! Your videos get watched alot on this side, so it was really cool to see this.
Stay positive and drink plenty of water ❤
I played the NMH series for the first time last year and all the games along with your music got me through one of the toughest times in my life 🥰
@@maroonkennedy6213 yo. part of what motivates us to even make music is to hopefully be able to reach others and positively impact lives through our songs. we're honored to have helped any way at all. Thank you for letting us know.
Stay positive and drink plenty of water ❤️
As soon as I first heard the sushi shop song I just knew it would never leave my head for the rest of my life.
@@Kriseiri for life?!? We whole time just didn't want the song to get old. Sounds like mission complete on that one lol thank you!
I find a lot of suda games have the perfect balance between calming songs (sandalwood, k-ent, claire de lune, sweet blue flag) and epic bangers (philistine, no more heroes (it’s kill or be killed), rave on, silver face, and of course, the sushi shop theme). You did a great job, and I bet it’s pretty epic to be able to work with grasshopper and suda.
I don't really think the point of Holly Summers was Travis learning that murder was bad, it was more him learning to treat his opponents with respect, recognize that they're all killers here and that trying to spare them for something as trivial as "I won't kill a woman" is an insult to a fellow assassin, which is why he has no trouble trying to kill badgirl later, if he learned killing was bad with Holly Summers then he wouldn't really go on with the rest of the game would he?
Nor would he go on to kill for the rest of the series, especially with his level of enthusiasm displayed in 2, 3, & TSA.
"Maturation" gets a "stop, is that a real word?" moment, but "insalubrious" just casually gets dropped without comment. Interesting vocabulary, haha.
I played dragons dogma 😭
@@KBash 😆
He's use it in other videos. At least I think that's were I've heard it before
@@KBash Could... could you do. Video on dragons dogma? I feel like it's really really underrated.
@@kannonpq He already did.
On another note, this might be obviously biased but you CAN learn about Jeane before the fight, in the original Wii release if you checked the manual, there was a section with the picture Travis has of her next to his phone explaining who she was, which was strange to point out in the manual but when she showed up at the very end I shat my pants, I coulnd't believe such a single simple detail barely mentioned in the manual had such "big" plot relevance.
Nice, the game was rewarding the old custom of reading the whole manual before playing. I remember doing that with my game boy and N64 games back when I was a kid.
15:42 - "Henry Cooldown...Sylvia's wife."
Not even wrong.
I've always found fascinating how everyone takes the UAA is fake twist as truth even though it makes no sense, and takes NMH2 making it real as like, ignoring the plot of the first. I just assumed Sylvia's mom was lying about the UAA being fake, presumably because Sylvia asked her to as some sort of way to push Travis
In my opinion, the twist regarding the UAA in NMH1 frankly makes a lot of sense considering two key points:
A.) According to NMH2, the only reason the UAA is back is because Sylvia is being paid to bring it back by Jasper Batt Jr. so that he can get revenge on Travis not only by Killing Bishop, but also by roping Travis back into the assassin leaderboards; after all, in the first game, Travis got to the top, didn't get the vaguely described "revenge" he was promised at the start, and walked due to the empty
B.) The snuff film plotline in TSA. In other words, it confirms and canonizes the fact that the UAA began as simply a front for Sylvia to be able to make money by recording the fights and making snuff films to sell on the dark web, not to mention just pocketing all of the fight "fees" for competitors. In return, they were simply given a useless title if they succeeded, and the cycle continued.
That being said, I also haven't played the third game and am close to completing TSA but haven't yet, so I could be missing some key points; but this is just my take!
I just assumed Jasper Bat jr decided to use his Bat money to rebuild it and have an excuse to have travis be at his peak, so when he won it would be because he was better than Travis.
We all know how that turned out.
i've always interpreted/headcanon'd that the person Travis talks to on the phone in 1 isn't actually Sylvia's mother but is just Sylvia pretending or one of her alternate personalities (2 seems to suggest she has something akin to D.I.D)
feels like the good old "my mom works at microsoft" but then she actually does...
Wait, if UAA is fake then what's that ranking? Why do they have numbers like 1, 2, 3.. etc. And they know why Travis is there? Are they being lied as well
What if the shitty twist of the first game is a critique of gamers who played this entire game killing and murdering without even asking why their doing expect for the fact its a video game
Bingo. Also it's making fun of convoluted storylines that don't do the leg work to make us care. Just saying he's his father then immediately killing him and then fast forwarding through a tragic speech to really nail how fake it is.
Yeah something like that, it doesn't need to be taken that seriously
That's the best part about Suda's games like K7. There's various interpretations and meta-like messages but also just face value.
literally went "HE GETS IT" out loud during the ending, easily my fave video of yours up-to-date ♥
I feel like K isn't respecting the mahou shoujo, all manly guys loves mahou shoujo, Sailor Moon is a fucking Master Piece
It’s the same thing with heavenly star. Sometimes I just want dirty grunge music or metal to chill out to, but heavenly star is something that I’m always down for.
MOE.
Yo Kbash Thanks for pumping out these quality vids, been having a rough day and your stuff always brightens my mood
I saw an interview with him, think he got really jaded about game developing when he co-made Shadows of the Damned. EA basically screwed him and Mikami over.
TSA's Shadows of the Damned-like mission is Suda's cope to that, I wanna believe.
Travis easily has one of my favorite designs and personalities in any game I feel like next to gantz the story of his game has one of the coolest premises as well glad to see it get more recognition it makes me happy knowing these games still have staying power
the jean fakeout i feel works more so if you're taking the metacomentary perspective of the relationship between "player and main character"
travis starts the game dismissing any idea of games having a deeper story and presents himself as a cool guy avatar who just wants to be number 1. as the game goes on, the dimensionality of travis gets unearthed and you come to realize he's not an avatar for you the player, but his own person.
the dropping the backstory at the end is the final nail in the coffin. having a darth vader fakeout that's dismissed feels highlights how most people don't really care about the characters they play as, and/or take what's presented at face value. it also messes with your balancing so when travis's real, ugly and represed baggage dropped on the player it drops you in more of a world wind
Diagetically, this can be best explained away as repressed memory from trauma. also pieces that hint to jean's existence were highlighted in media surrounding the game. like i think it's the instructions or something that points out the one photo on his desk of a woman is jean. the story around everything is there but argubly bit too cryptic.
When he said "Kill The Past" during the NMH1 Ending, that where I was like "Theeeeere it is, he got it."
"Those are real people he's painting with" is such a raw line, I love your writing.
A quirked up weeb boy with a little big of swagger bust it down in a murderous style. Is he goated with the sauce?
This reads like a line from NMH3.
No more heroes is a deconstruction of the super hero genre disguised as a hack and slash game.
The world of no more heroes is extremely morbid and nothing represents that more than Travis touchdown himself.
A loser who lives by himself and is a weeb only interested in getting under a woman's skirt.
The hilarious thing is that is living the lifestyle exactly like a lot of people having to do with him being a simp and weeb.
To me this is the welcome to NHK of video games and I'm so glad I was introduced to the series.
Besides the comedy in the series my favourite part of it are the bosses.
All unique but somewhat grounded in reality and some with really depressing back stories like the true last boss in the first game jean.
In the world of no more heroes there are truly no heroes.
Except Jeane isn't the true last boss, it's Henry, but you are right otherwise
In that way it feels like a better told Garth ennis story
"Henry Cooldown, Travis' brother and Sylvia's wife" errr....
Henry Malewife 😳😳😳
I just thought to myself "I haven't seen KBash in a bit, I hope something releases soon". What a dub
I can only watch up until Travis Strikes back because I haven't played the final two games but I'll let the video play out muted because you and your work deserve the watch time 👍
You gotta admit, musical chairs had the best song of the whole series
100%
Tbf No More Heroes has a lot of really good bangers
I always feel like no more heros: Travis strikes again exist is because suda needed to make it so he can understand why he loves making video games.
Also giving Travis “character development” is just a bonus
Thank you so much. I just got off work for lunch and this couldn't have possibly gone up at a better time
Fr and the vid was long enough for my whole lunch break🤌🏻
UAA was a scam that worked out too well, it wasn't staged, but it was never intended as a stable business model... only for it to work despite Sylvia running off with the money, was my take
I always assumed the other assassins were also getting conned by Sylvia. When Travis talks to her mother on the phone before the last level, then Henry at the end, they both heavily imply that she has done this many, _many_ times before, and Travis was just the latest in a long line of psychos she duped into giving her all their money and then killing each other.
Great retrospective! 15:50 The worst part is that it's possible to save right after the bad ending and you'll actually be unable to go out and upgrade your blade katana, meaning you bricked your save and have to start a completely new playthrough. This happened to a lot of people who played without a guide, it was awful. Your reactions to all the plots were the same as mine. If I had to sum it up, I'd say Suda the Tarantino of video games, but in a good way of course.
No More Heroes 1 was essentially a reflection on movies like John Wick (a decade before it was made). John is a cool, friendly, relatable ASSASSIN who killed hundreds of people to make his money.
you just get no more heroes, really cool vid!
Damn, whenever I see gameplay for NMH1 and 2 and people don't do the "extra" input at the end of a combo for extra oopmh, it fucks with my head, why they removed this feature from NMH3 is beyond me, just leaves me with blue balls ffs.
Finally someone else shares my thoughts. Felt empty playing 3 and attempting it on every kill slash only to be met with sheer disappointment.
Y’know the funny thing about “shallow” interpretations is that they’re interpretations. Which is kind of the point of leaving things up to interpretation
Trust me I don’t know what the heck is going on with this series 80% of the time but I love it anyway
Your fundamental misunderstanding of what "kill the past" is really tarnishes an otherwise good video
I mean, Suda might be credited on NMH2, because of course he is, the series wouldn't exist without him. But at the time of it's development he was actively working on shadows of the damned, along with other side projects like the psp evangelion game. Plus Travis strikes again and NMH3 do so much back pedaling, they might as well have called the 2021 game NMH2 and pretend the 2010 game never happened
I appreciate the amount of sincerity and thought you put into these reviews, really man your reviews are the only ones I actively look out for and click immediately whenever i see a new one. Thanks for making these videos.
Deadass sad that well written reviews like this don't get more attention.
Keep fighting the good fight bro
Played this game when I was 17 years old. Don't know why I picked it up but me and siblings loved it. I doubt if we picked up on the meta commentary at the time. But the surrealism of it all hook us.
As a NMH fan: I love this video, and I found your opinions super interesting and insightful! Also, your shot fired at the NMH2 final boss had me laughing out loud. That shot of the window will forever be burned into my memory, with or without Travis flying through it, and your reaction was insanely authentic and almost identical to mine! May or may not died like a billion times on that fight, and I blame everything on that window
This brings me back big time. Thank you KBash!
Are we not gonna talk about Kbash hittin' those notes like a f#@kin pro!?!??
Great video , in a relativly short time you manage to touch most of what makes NMH as a series great .
You don't really touch on it in the review maybe by choice but learning about the history of suda as a development especially between really make some parts of TSA hit even harder , especially the damn dark night section . GhenryPerez's video on Shadow of the damned is a good way to learn about it imo .
Awesome to see you've finally tackled the NMH series! Can't watch the whole thing due to not having played 3 yet, but I hope this vid will reach a lot of folks and introduce them to the garden of madness
“Imagine if cinema sins did this game. He’s die! In 5 seconds!” Fucking lol
I love the double double joke, I found out years ago that's its a Canadian thing and it just makes me chuckle seeing other Canadians use it
Personally No More Heroes 2 is my favorite of the series. The first game has aspects about it that I like more than 2 like the Open-World. But what makes me like 2 more is how weighty and fun the combat feels and the bosses. While the first game had more consistently better bosses overall, the best bosses in 2 are some of the best in the series. Margaret Moonlight is my favorite in the game with how rewarding it feels to take her down once you master the timing to dodge her sniper shots, not to mention the soundtrack for the fight being the best in the game and the atmosphere being top notch. While NMH1 is more consistently good across the board, to me NMH2 has highs that easily surpass the first game for me. Regardless I still love this series as a whole, great job covering it all
Hey man, longtime watcher, first-time commenter.
Just wanna say this might be some of your best work yet. Been wild to see how far you've come lately and I can't wait to stick around for the ride.
Keep havin fun out there and keep up the hustle champ
Adore this series so much
May I just say that I actually really like the couple of Ruuningshine style jokes in the beginning, I think due in part to the fact that he doesn't upload a lot.
Rad video! This came out just 2 days after I finished the SIlver Case so
That's really neat. I think the nmh is an interesting series tbh, I think I resonate with the other games of Suda I played with more than the NMH series, but nmh 2 was my introduction to Suda and his interesting games and got me into playing Flower Sun and Rain, Killer7, and recently the Silver Case.
Really dope stuff, I'd love to see your thoughts about Suda's earlier works but I get having higher priorities, happy you covered the nmh series doe!
22:00 I freaking cracked up
Thanks for putting a great vid as always Kbash ^^
The other assassin’s aren’t actors they’re real assassin’s just other assassin’s who were unfortunate enough to been caught up in Sylvia’s Con. Then in NMH2 because of Travis’s Infamy as the “No More Hero” made the UAA official. But also bc Pizza Batt funded it for obvious reasons to get Travis to eventually fight him.
I love no more heroes 2 but it’s a bit tonally indecisive. Like sometimes it wants to be a absurdist bombastic fun comedy (which I love) & then sometimes wants to be serious & focus on the character stuff in a serious way (which I also love) but the way it balances or in this case doesn’t balance the tonal differences makes it hard to love the story of NMH2. It’s 2 extremely different sides of the same coin. Suda51 being the director is a big difference like fr the only game that Suda didn’t direct is NMH2 & it’s the most divisive entry in the series. It’s kinda blatant that nmh can’t survive tonally & storywise w/o suda in the directors chair
i think i just found a new favourite video essay writer. please keep it up 😂
I laughed so hard when he got punched out the window in desperate struggle
Keep up the great work, Bash.
You're the only creator where I've actually listened to the patreon credits cuz the way you say them is oddly satisfying
You have a good voice
Not going to dislike something because of that. You expressed your point well, weren't misstating things or grasping at straws. Won't have my own opinion until I see it in context and work out for myself what the game was actually trying to say.
KBash talking about NMH? My oh my today is gonna be a wonderful day!
I always took Silvia saying the UAA wasn’t real as a way to give Travis an out after killing bad girl. That does make the call from her “mother” in a weird spot if I’m right but who knows
Great content yet again kbash!
This is the video of yours I have always been waiting for, NMH1 and 2 are my legit favorite Wii games of all time. IMMEDIATELY LIKED, LET'S GO
as a child in school learning kanji, the roadside killings by samurai you mention, it's how i memorized the character 過 which is like human heads stacked. on a path
lol history is fun🙃
I don't have any friends who are into the series. So it was fun to listen to this video and think about my thoughts on the series as all.
These game was the sole reason I bought a Japanese Xbox, and now I'm playing Part 3 on my Series.
It's been a wild ride.
Was getting obssessed about playing these games. what a coincidence. Also cool to know there's interaction between 2 of my favorite youtubers
Great video Kbash!
15:45 Henry best waifu confirmed
Hey I have Zero care for no more heroes, but this video was stellar entertainment. You're recent one have been really neat.
15:40 he calls henry cooldown, Sylvia's wife lol
"We have fun here because life is hard as fuck, but we're pushing through it anyway." Ya know, generally speaking I've had a pretty decent day as I've watched this video. But hearing you say that made me feel all that much better. It was well said, dude. And it really hit a nerve with me in the best way possible. I live for the shit I love because you're right, life is hard as fuck. But I want to have fun and enjoy it when and where I can. And a big part of doing so is watching your uploads. Keep doing what you're doing. I'm here for it. Thank you.
I can really vibe with that end message. And really feel like I need to play the series specifically to play travis strikes again. Because the last few months I've been in a hardcore "go camp in the woods away from society" mood. And it's a lot of the stuff I know would get talked about. Something weird about it, that masculine urge to fuck off into the woods is pretty common. Hell was watching a comedian the other day that had a whole bit about how they got their inspiration to do that show when they were just wandering out into the woods while never wanting to do comedy again. That energy of wanting to just fuck off away from everyone and focus on improving myself, I feel it.
I'm not sure I've clicked a video faster in my life. I will enjoy hearing your opinion on these games.
Hope to see you cover Dead Rising sometime, would love to see your take on the devolution of the series
Dude, you may not get it...
But you get *IT*, y'know?
So when do we get the Ys series retrospective?
Does anyone know what song is playing in the again ground of the travis strikes back sections of the video?
Great video!
That Poppa Nickolas part had me dying XD
Yo wtf ?!
I was on a NMH video essays binge from various youtubers.
How the fuck did you knew I needed more ?
Wow an Excision song in a Kbash video? You’re the best lmao
18:40 this is the second time in my over 30 years of life I've ever heard sombody use verisimilitude in a sentence other than to define the word itself.and I'm pretty sure the 1st time was in 1 of your other videos😂. You know, I'm cool with it, great vid sir
“Yeah I’ve been waiting for this”
Thanks for the video, love this sh*t so much
you should really play GodHand
Dude I didn't know he put one of my directors in 3, that's fucking amazing!
I acknowledge Suda's bright ideas and profound messages, yet struggle to find a single game made by his studio that I'd personally call great. They're all slightly off the mark for me.
2 things about tsa that miss
1) soundtrack slaps in particular silver face
2) you didn’t seem to mention the dlc for tsa
'Sting'
A Reminder that a few of the Department Heaven games have been released on Switch in Japan and nowhere else.
Also no mention of Shadows of the Damned in the Travis Strikes Again Segment?
Can’t wait to get off work to watch!
You're stuff in down right inspiring
Great work
Kbash: calls attention to Travis VA
*plays line*
Me who's not looking at the visuals: Wait, RAIDEN?!!!
Yo my boyy civit is here!
I got to see KBash do an actual singing duet with Dr. Peace; Truly Spectacular. Encore good sir and Please please please PLEASE if at all possible post a full version of the song
I didn't really know how to level up in either NMHIII or killer7 until I was well past the halfway point. I thought the games were just brutally difficult.
Ive never seen anyone make videos so long so fast. This isnt just working hard, Kbash must have an absurd talent for efficency
15:42 “Henry Cooldown, Travis’ brother and Silvia’s wife”
Dafuq?
Commenting for the bump and also to wish you good luck in the comment minefield, brother
Btw…the death drive isn’t even a one-game pony, it re-appears not only in 3 but also was used as the basis for let it die and deathverse
its amazing how much you got the point of the first game and almost completely and intentionally missed the point of the second one
Let’s shake remind me of Kevin from ed edd eddy
Heron't.
*Whistle*
I like that!
42:00 What your describing would be less a Paragon, but more a Samurai. A Samurai following Bushido and Loyalty. Commanding others not through power but by united will.
.... hold on they STOLE Kylo Ren's saber dsign from No More Heroes? What a time
Will you ever do Yakuza?