Exceptionally informative. Your content is both stimulating and soothing, offering grand and generous insight into the many mechanics of our beloved island free-for-all.
Great Video - Couple this with Fishing and we are really onto the "Food and Fuel" Vending for a Vanilla Server. Time to work the electronics to automate it.
Automated watering will be easy enough, what I really want to see is more components to automate it further. Hopefully one day I get to rig up a farm that will plant, water and pick itself for me. :)
@@Malonik That would be fantastic... we ran a huge fish and fuel shop last wipe that was very profitable... im going to branch out and use your house in a box build this next wipe with a "breezeway" connecting the shop with the build.
We built that exact design when we had a fireworks shop a few wipes ago lol! I love running shops and hotels. I know it's RP and all that but I'm all about the random social interactions in rust and hotels/shops are jam packed full of them lol.
Mal, on your follow up video, mention the stages for the potatoes before you harvest them. From the 1st min. Seed, 5th min. Seedling, 10th min. Sapling, 19th min. Crossbreed (very short stage), 21st min. Mature Stage, 114th min. Fruiting (that's when you see potatoes. Lastly an hour and 54 mins. in the Ripe stage begins. That's when you can harvest the potatoes. BTY, I notice if you have more G= Growth Speed, it will speed up the process. Also, 1 Y=Yield gives you 1 more potato, and 2 Y=Yield gives you 2 more potato at harvest, most of the time. [BLDRZ] Pinoysaboteur @ BLDRZ Vanilla Mod PvE Server.
Thanks mate. I went nuts when electricity came out and I'm loving messing around with the new farming stuff. Struggling atm with auto sprinklers but I'll figure it out. Thanks again for this vid and your 2.0 👏👏👏👍
Yeah snow farming is basically hard mode. If you don't want it to take the entire wipe to get a good strain on potatoes going I'd make a little farm in the forest and smash it out there. Try and get as many H genes as you can to help with the cold.
Some notes on the composter. composting trout yeilds the highest with 1.3 fert for each trout and mushies in second with 1 fert per 5 mushies. corn also seems to be a contender with 1.5 fert per 5 corn
All i've wanted in this game was a more robust farming system, i've always tried to build a greenhouse as part of my bases as to not have to be out in the open to get animals as a source of food. im wondering if there are other bonuses to farmed food over wild ones, like does heartiness increase a food's hunger restoration ability? Either way, this will mark my return to the game, just gonna find an empty server and farm, its my rust dream come true
Nice! The H gene is the hardiness gene not heartiness so it helps grow in tougher conditions lol. I know what you mean about the farms I always had little caged off farms. The added benefit currently is you can really refine your crops to give you a greater and faster yeild. After they drop the next update to the farming system there will be tier 2 recipes for making proper meals that should have much better effects. :)
Not that I know of... You can only pick them once they are fruiting or ripe. During the fruiting stage if you look at the plant it will tell you how many you'll get and that grows throughout the fruiting stage. Once the number in brackets gets above the .5 decimal point it counts that as an extra whole in the harvest. I haven't tested it out when you're cloning your plants but as far as harvesting goes that's definitely how it works.
Malonik cool I was just wondering if it was worth waiting for a higher percentage of ripeness or not . I guess no is the answer for now . Fridges still seem to be useless too so wondering if spoiled food is going to return at some point too . Am I right ? Does food not currently spoil ?
Does the area affect how much water a water catcher collects? Snow/Forest/Desert? As many other commenters, I've got problem getting enough water for one plantern with 9 hemps. 1 large + 4 small wcs chained, and they can't feed my two sprinklers which are on 40% and off 60% of the time.
Nah area doesn't change how much water they generate and your issue is a common one currently. I'm actually in the middle of editing a video that will address this issue and show the best current options for dealing with it. That vid should be out in a little under 12 hours. :)
I have given up trying to figure out how to manipulate the genes... it is so difficult when the negative genes are weighed twice as much as the positive ones. Hope you are making progress @Malonik.
I give up too. Its not working. I had 2 pumpkin plants ripen today. 1 with 3 Y genes. Harvest quantity of 2. Another with 1 Y gene. And a harvest quantity of 4. Facepunch made a mechanic they dont fully understand themselves... Both in the same planter box btw.
Can you pump water from a body of water? If you have a freshwater source nearby you should be able to use a pump to fill up a lot of water barrels, right?
You're spot on with how this should work... However the reality is that it won't let us put pumps in water... I'm hoping that there's plans to give us something that will let us do that..
great guide! thanks! stupid question time --- i'm nowhere near this level let, still planting in the ground -- do i need to water my plants in the ground? will that make them grow faster?
Nah that's not a stupid question! They won't grow faster with water, that being said the water is important so they don't die. Though if you're going for say cloth then you can likely clone it before it's an issue. Won't hurt to dump a water jug onto them though. :)
That was my first thought too but sadly no they don't warm it currently. Your best bet at the moment is to build a little farm in the forest and try and get a set of genes that is heavy on the H gene. I'm really hoping they have something like a greenhouse or electric heaters or something planned.
which is more efficient, grow speed or yield? Also what is the 200IQ method for farming near saltwater? I want more information on this farming stuff for my squad, we need food and cloth. Also you should consider making an 'evil wurst edited style' video on how to make a top tier farm base; step by step, quick, and idiot proof. You're the man for the job
So I seem to be getting 0% influence on ground temp by running heaters. I have seen many discussions on the "comfort zone" from the heaters. I have a 2X2 grow room with 2 heaters placed in the middle on opposite sides. I have one hung about 2ft off ground and the other about 2ft from ceiling to check heat sphere size. Nothing seems to influence the garden planter though. They are currently 70degrees, whether the heaters are on or off. Any thoughts ???
I've found pretty similar things, they seem to be for player warmth not for farm warmth but realistically they should be for both lol. I'm hoping it was just an oversight that they'll fix in the next patch.
@@Malonik , seems like the fact that they have "Temp" of your plants as one of the stats for overall plant health, I guess I just assumed they would be able to be used for farm warmth, as well as player warmth. Like yourself, I am hoping it is either a bug or an oversight that will be patched on the next cycle. Thanks for the reply.
That's fair enough but they've got to up the water generation rate on the water catchers if they want that to be effective on anything other than a monthly wipe lol.
Is perfect for role players, but we know how "welcoming" rust community to role players. You can have all best idia and majority of server agreed with you. And leaving you with your build. But you will get 1 idiot which will destroy everything in offline raide to get 1 Corn
I have noticed that the splitter will split the water amount evenly regardless if there is flow out of the other end or not.. for example.. I have 2 hoses going to 2 valves. Valve 1 is off and valve 2 is on. Valve 2 still gets 5 water even if valve 1 is off. If I remove the hose to valve 1, valve 2 gets a full 11 water. This makes no sense to me and I think facepunch should update this issue.
Amazing guide bro, but i have a serious problem, even with 30 small water catchers and a barrel i cant sustain a single sprinkler to work constantly, pumpkins drain the water faster than the sprinklers fill, do u have any idea if im doing something wrong? Sorry for my bad english, hope u answer
Thanks! :) Check out my latest video on the farm setups and meta. That's the best we've got currently until we see if facepunch will give us more components or tweak the current ones to handle the demand better. Combine that with the automatic watering system I'm doing in my next video and it should at least be manageable.
Question, seems like the sprinklers are eating too much water per sec. is there a specific amount of time i should keep the sprinkler on ? say the soil wetness reaches 100% and we stop or something
It's possible to have it staggered on and off... Gotta figure out the timing though because you don't want the water saturation dipping too low and affecting the crops.
Is there a way to combine multiple water catchers into one water barrel? like in electricity solar panels use root combiners to combine electricity then to a battery.
Not yet but I believe we're getting a new component in the next patch that will let us do that. Not to mention a pump that can be submerged in rivers to pump fresh water straight from them. :)
Hmm... Sounds like facepunch broke the hardiness gene lol. I've heard that you can use camp fires to help raise the temp but I haven't had a chance to test it myself yet.
Oh I definitely plan on doing an advanced genetics video! That being said it is going to be a lot of messing around to get a really good set of clones.
I'm having a terrible time with the wall heaters, I can't figure out why in the hell they DO NOT change the plant temperature. Even if it's 1, 2 or 20 it just does not work. I get "comfort" but the plants temp does not change at all. Please help, am I doing something wrong or what?
i was watching one of these Breeding Guide and he was talking about how to press F1 and write a command and u can quickly press E to pick clones instead of holding E but i cant find that 1 video. can anyone help me with which video that was or whats the command PLZ
is there any information of how much growspeed one G gives and how much yeald one Y give? would also be nice to know how much H give to the ability to survive in the cold... like if a full H plant can grow in like -12 or so... atm i have a 3xG + 3xY plant. and live on the green area near a mountain and the temp keep fk up my plants... also heaters or fire dose not seme to have any effect at all on the plants...
I haven't had a chance to get all the figures. That being said Wavey (our local mad scientist) on my discord has theorycrafted the crap out of the farming. He'd definitely be able to tell ya so could be worth jumping on and asking him. Also yeah I noticed the heaters don't help the crops. I'm not sure if that's intended or just an oversight. I'm hoping for the latter but I guess we'll find out later this week on patch day.
Why is nobody talking about the fact that you can now sell 1 corn for 1 scrap each at Bandit camp. IMO, this makes all the difference and clearly offers benefits for non-rp players as well. I fucking love it.
@@MalonikAlso, you can sell cloth but at a different rate ofc, 10:1 I believe it is. So you can literally farm bp's as a ganja farmer, haha! Nice video btw.
You can't do that as far as I can tell however you can passthrough each water collector by connecting the "water out" to another catcher's "water in", thus setting up a chain of collectors until the last collector connects to a water barrel for storage.
Wait how long are you gone from the game? Because if you don't tie your horses up to troughs and give them a piece of food each per hour you're gone then they'll starve to death. Also the crops will wilt and die if you don't harvest them at the right time.
I'm wracking my head around trying to get a perfect clone. I can get as far as having 3 Y slots but then to breed into those it would over-write the Ys I have. If I have a X - Y - Y - X - Y - X clone and a Y - X - X - X - X - X Clone, how do I breed the 1 slot Y into the first clone without over-writing any of Y's in the other slots? It's complicated. Is it possible to make a 6 slot Y clone?
Also does the placement matter? Do I have to put them adjacent to each other to crossbreed? Do they crossbreed diagonally? Do I just have to put as many good genetics as I want into the planter and hope they take over?
As far as our testing goes they seem to take on whatever gene is predominantly surrounding it. I'm currently doing tests on genetics so I can get an advanced genetics guide together to help people figure it out. We've gotten pretty close, predicting 5 of the 6 genes correctly. Not quite there yet though.
@@Malonik I've been testing by placing good clones (such as 5 green 1 red) on the four corners, letting them mature past the crossbreed phase so I don't accidentally ruin that strain, and then placing the clone I want to breed in the center. I've not quite figured out how but I believe I can get a 6 green using this method if I use four different 5 green clones with reds on different slots so they don't over-take any gene in the center clone. Step 1: place 5 green clones in the four corners. Step 2: Let reach mature. This protects them from taking any red genes from the center clone allowing you to retry infinitely. Step 3: Place a clone in the center you wish to crossbreed. An issue comes up here where if any of the four corner clones have a red gene where there isn't more than 1 of the same green gene in that slot, the red gene will overtake. For example, if one corner clone has an X in slot one, and each of the other corner clones have a Y, G, and H in slot 1; then the X will over-take the slot 1 of the center clone. The trick is to find enough 5 green clones that share the same gene in the same slot. For example. If two of the corner clones have a Y in slot 1 and while one corner clone has an X or a W in slot one; then the Y will overtake the gene in the center clone's slot 1. I think the formula for a perfect 6 green clone would go as follows: X - Y - Y - Y - Y - Y Y - X - Y - Y - Y - Y Y - Y - X - Y - Y - Y Y - Y - Y - X - Y - Y Y - Y - Y - Y - X - Y Obviously this will be extremely difficult to find but using this method you can turn multiple clones into a 6 green gene clone and then from there you should be able to safely breed in more Y's without the risk of red genes over-taking green genes. I've not yet figured out how to breed 2 and 3 red genes out, the more red genes the harder it is to breed safely. I'm sure there's a way to take a number of 2 red clones and slowly breed up to a set of five 1 red clones to use the method I described without having to constantly roll seeds for good clones. Hemp is much much easier to test with because you can harvest and clone before the crossbreed phase, you can also destroy bad clones with a hachet. With potatoes you cannot remove them pre-crossbreed phase; so to roll for good clones you must only place seeds in the four corners or else red genes will over-take every seed. I haven't tested with corn or pumpkins. What I have noticed is that even 3 Y pumpkins only produce 1 pumpkin per ripe phase, whereas ripe potatoes produce 6-12. Cloth seems to go from 30-50. I'm beginning to think that G genes might be more produce per hour than Y genes. Hope this helps! Looking forward to the video on genetics.
@@Mekose Good tips. If you let the four plants in the corner mature before placing the centre one it doesn't seem to matter what genes are in the centre one.
It definitely is part of the game and by default too (it's not a mod). There's a lot more to do than just hunting people in rust, excellent game that's definitely worth it.
@@Malonik thanks for the quick reply! I guess I’m asking if farming, etc, is something you CAN do if you want or if it’s something you need to do to succeed in the game? I think it’s really cool that’s there’s a lot to do and other aspects to the game, but it would also be a bummer to put all the work in to make something nice just to get wrecked by someone who’s just hunting people. but I guess that’s the point of the game? idk I’m very new to this.
@@aaronlam6929 You don't have to do farming to be successful whatsoever. That being said it has some great benefits like having heaps of food or heaps of cloth which you could use to trade. Ultimately success in rust is hard to define because there's so much to do. It really depends what your play style and goals are. For example sometimes I'll go hard and get end game guns and raiding gear and raid people. Some wipes I'll just be super chill and run a hotel. You can be a farmer, you can be an electrician, you can be a mechanic, hell after the next patch you can be a fucken taxi driver if you want to lol.
@@Malonik I've been toying with the current water system and their are issues. For 1, it is very hard to gather enough water for large scale setups. I have a Farm Tower Base on the HAAS PVE Server in the X21 grid. I have 12 small catchers on the roof that are going to gravity feed each farm "tier" below the catchers. I keep running out of water because the water collectors do not collect fast enough. I hope that Facepunch Devs have a submersible pump in the works to pump fresh water out of lakes and rivers.
@@maximumeffort3225 My video that's coming out in like 11 hours will help as best it can with the current water issue. I'd absolutely love some sort of water pump that we can put in rivers. I really hope that they have that in the works.
The X gene is an empty slot, so it's a negative gene but not as bad because that slot isn't doing anything where as if it was a W gene for example that would make the plant require more water. The X has no negative effect but also no positive effect thus making it a negative gene... God I hope that makes some sort of sense lol.
@@hvsxswaylex4732 Oh right as in the actual background is black... I was thinking you meant from my colouring of them.. hmm.. I'll have to look into that because I haven't personally seen it yet.
@@hvsxswaylex4732 Ooooooooh!!!!! Roflmao! Okay noooow I'm with ya! So the first line with the black ones is the original genes that the plant had. When the plant crossbreeds and swaps genes with its neighbours those changes happen on the second line. It keeps the black first line there to show you what the plant was and what it has changed into. So you answer your question the black genes are the old genes that the plant had which have been replaced by the genes under them. :)
i has been trying to farm cloth but its dosnt seem worth i mean cost alot of time and effort , i had a seed that was YYYGGG and in 2 hours i only got 50 cloth
@@DrKaku01 That's really not bad. Keep in mind that a normal ordinary hemp plant in the wild will take about 5 hours to grow and only give you 10 cloth. If you set up a few more planters you could pump out 1k cloth an hour or so. Then take your excess cloth to the bandit camp and trade it in for scrap. :)
got legit 5 big watcher catches into 1 then onto 2 sprinkles, 5 of them cant even run 2 sprinklers constantly anyone know why they arent getting much water?
GREAT SERIES! 👍 'd #OldManPaxus Rating: ★★★★ Curious what you think about this: Isn't it odd that FP pandered to kids who want everything immediately, totally happy to kill Tier 1 & 2 progression and wipe days (by addition of 4 elite crates at Mil Tuns, Cargo event, Oil rigs etc)...YET...They seem completely content to ignore that these same kind of kids have no interest in farming!?! 😵🤪 I know that the direction FP steers _what_ Rust _is_ has often been confusing and contrary to logic but this one seems especially weird.... I'd do a video about it, i just think it would fall on deaf ears...
Yeah I wish they didn't destroy the early game progress because honestly it's my favourite part. I was so excited when they announced the spin off rust that was going to be medieval purely because it'd almost be a constant early game state. Then they dragged it out back and put a bullet in it. :( I think facepunch realizes that the people that wanted the early game sped up aren't the people that are going to be pouring time into farming, hell they probably won't even set up a farm, so why pander to them? Lol Also some of their decisions may seem odd but if you look at the grand scheme of things and the old roadmap it really is the direction that they'd always intended to go with rust. People seem shocked that they added electricity and farming and such. Meanwhile I'm sitting here going... but this shit has been planned for years.... of course they're doing it... what? Lol
This needs a balance update. 9 water catchers cannot supply water for 1 sprinkler. Making a house with floor grills and windows gives 0 light. Yield is poor even under the best conditions. Farming needs to be a small percentage of your time in game otherwise no one will do it.
They actually just rebalanced things in the latest patch as well as adding the new farming components like the new pump that goes in your water source. Super handy. That being said I need to do an updated guide on farming as a whole as the best setup I know of currently is 1 sprinkler per 3 planters. Also I think time and effort wise it's okay where it's at. Maybe even a little more time consuming tbh. Like currently I've got a guy on my discord generating about 5k scrap an hour out of his cloth farm (via trades at bandit camp). He not only has all the BP's but he's got 30 turrets hooked up around his base and more than a few boxes of LR's and kits and shit. He did all of this solo on a vanilla server courtesy of the farming system lol.
As far as I know there isn't a way currently... I've tried all the things you can light on fire and they don't work. Tried stacking heaps of lights and that didn't work. I'm guessing there's some extra component on the way like maybe a heat lamp we hang over them or something.
@@EludeStalwart lol yeah there is, back when I replied to this there wasn't. Hilariously when they first added the electric heaters they didn't actually help the crops at all for the first patch or two lol.
Lol it's not hard to find a gun, you can grab revie and db from outpost which is enough to make a play for a better gun. Or hit up monuments. The food side of things won't be too bad either. This is mostly framework for their tier 2 recipes which will likely give you bonus effects so it won't mean you're starving you just won't get any bonus effects from food.
Holding it in your hands and right clicking? Also if you're on a build server or admin server and you're spawning the water jugs in they can't be poured out until you fill them even though there's water in them when they spawn.
Well if they're on the server I'm on then there will be plenty of food to go around... working on actually making the big farm from the end of the vid on a vanilla server lol.
Malonik awesome man, i do hope they make food more scarce and the spawn rate around rivers less, i mean it will have an impact on a zergs medical and food economy, and maybe give a fighting chance to smaller groups who knows. But yeah they can just raid for it haha
![RUST 101: Farming 2.0 - Automatic Sprinklers [UPDATED FOR MAY PATCH]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/r7W9sWY1OCQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Exceptionally informative. Your content is both stimulating and soothing, offering grand and generous insight into the many mechanics of our beloved island free-for-all.
Thank you for the extremely well written compliments. :)
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Donald Trump get the fuck outta here Donald, go spread ur stupidity somewhere else
i agree!
Roleplaying gets more and more amazing
Not just roleplaying, I wouldn't be surprised if they tweak the food / water stats so that it's far more important.
@@Malonik i hope so ! and i really hope that they implement something like animal breading etc. some time later on, rust has a lot of potentials
@@iKyroja oooh animal breeding would be an interesting one... I could have so many horses... or attack dogs lol.
@@Malonik that would be amazing
@@Malonik its roleplaying
Great Video - Couple this with Fishing and we are really onto the "Food and Fuel" Vending for a Vanilla Server. Time to work the electronics to automate it.
Automated watering will be easy enough, what I really want to see is more components to automate it further. Hopefully one day I get to rig up a farm that will plant, water and pick itself for me. :)
@@Malonik That would be fantastic... we ran a huge fish and fuel shop last wipe that was very profitable... im going to branch out and use your house in a box build this next wipe with a "breezeway" connecting the shop with the build.
We built that exact design when we had a fireworks shop a few wipes ago lol! I love running shops and hotels. I know it's RP and all that but I'm all about the random social interactions in rust and hotels/shops are jam packed full of them lol.
Mal, on your follow up video, mention the stages for the potatoes before you harvest them. From the 1st min. Seed, 5th min. Seedling, 10th min. Sapling, 19th min. Crossbreed (very short stage), 21st min. Mature Stage, 114th min. Fruiting (that's when you see potatoes. Lastly an hour and 54 mins. in the Ripe stage begins. That's when you can harvest the potatoes. BTY, I notice if you have more G= Growth Speed, it will speed up the process. Also, 1 Y=Yield gives you 1 more potato, and 2 Y=Yield gives you 2 more potato at harvest, most of the time. [BLDRZ] Pinoysaboteur @ BLDRZ Vanilla Mod PvE Server.
Thanks mate. I went nuts when electricity came out and I'm loving messing around with the new farming stuff. Struggling atm with auto sprinklers but I'll figure it out. Thanks again for this vid and your 2.0 👏👏👏👍
No worries! If you haven't got auto sprinklers sorted in like a day or two I'll have my automated watering system video out. :)
Yaa.. ill stick to f1 killing when im starving
Lol I can't handle it, I've gotta stay well fed and hydrated.
My potato plant in the snow took 6hrs to grow 4 potato’s
Yeah snow farming is basically hard mode. If you don't want it to take the entire wipe to get a good strain on potatoes going I'd make a little farm in the forest and smash it out there. Try and get as many H genes as you can to help with the cold.
do you need seeds for potato?
@@sumancristoval9730 yah
@@cardzulu1993 where can I find it?
@@sumancristoval9730 red forests.
rustlabs.com/entity/wild-potato-plant
can put floor grills as roofs for sunlight
i need this farm because my group uses 500 cloth a day, maybe even more
That's cool, how does the light go when the sun isn't directly over the base?
Some notes on the composter. composting trout yeilds the highest with 1.3 fert for each trout and mushies in second with 1 fert per 5 mushies. corn also seems to be a contender with 1.5 fert per 5 corn
so corn actually seems the highest. Was typing this while testing :-)
composting meat (raw, cooked or burnt) seems to yield the same 1 fert for 5 meat.
Omg this is all fantastic info! Thank you so much!! :)
What about horse poop?
Can you put wood in the recycler to get wood scrap? I assume so.
nice vid - subbed - food has now become a commodity - selling pumpkins for HQ has been great and seeing zergs with water catchers makes me chuckle
Great video, only background music too high for people with hearing problems.
Good to know! I hadn't even considered that! Thank you!
Awesome Video. I sketch up a schematic on how to automatically water the plants.
I'd love to see it. :)
Malonik - no problem. I can send a screenshot.
Thanks for the info. I am interested in seeing the auto-watering circuit.
No worries and good to know! :)
All i've wanted in this game was a more robust farming system, i've always tried to build a greenhouse as part of my bases as to not have to be out in the open to get animals as a source of food. im wondering if there are other bonuses to farmed food over wild ones, like does heartiness increase a food's hunger restoration ability? Either way, this will mark my return to the game, just gonna find an empty server and farm, its my rust dream come true
Nice! The H gene is the hardiness gene not heartiness so it helps grow in tougher conditions lol.
I know what you mean about the farms I always had little caged off farms. The added benefit currently is you can really refine your crops to give you a greater and faster yeild. After they drop the next update to the farming system there will be tier 2 recipes for making proper meals that should have much better effects. :)
Is there a guide on picking crops ? Depending on what stage of growth gives which results and at what percent ?
Not that I know of... You can only pick them once they are fruiting or ripe. During the fruiting stage if you look at the plant it will tell you how many you'll get and that grows throughout the fruiting stage. Once the number in brackets gets above the .5 decimal point it counts that as an extra whole in the harvest.
I haven't tested it out when you're cloning your plants but as far as harvesting goes that's definitely how it works.
Malonik cool I was just wondering if it was worth waiting for a higher percentage of ripeness or not . I guess no is the answer for now . Fridges still seem to be useless too so wondering if spoiled food is going to return at some point too . Am I right ? Does food not currently spoil ?
Now with berries and potions farming is more important than ever. Thanks for the indepth video it was really helpful!
Thanks Malonik! Another great video. Keep up the good work soldier!
Thanks Sarge! :)
This video is great extremely informative straight to the point and just a great tutorial keep it up mate love the content.
Thanks! :)
Does the area affect how much water a water catcher collects? Snow/Forest/Desert? As many other commenters, I've got problem getting enough water for one plantern with 9 hemps. 1 large + 4 small wcs chained, and they can't feed my two sprinklers which are on 40% and off 60% of the time.
Nah area doesn't change how much water they generate and your issue is a common one currently. I'm actually in the middle of editing a video that will address this issue and show the best current options for dealing with it. That vid should be out in a little under 12 hours. :)
The background music is so soothing, I LOVE IT!
Awesome guide!
Thanks! :)
I have given up trying to figure out how to manipulate the genes... it is so difficult when the negative genes are weighed twice as much as the positive ones. Hope you are making progress @Malonik.
I'm getting there. What sort of farm size are you trying to do it in?
I give up too. Its not working. I had 2 pumpkin plants ripen today. 1 with 3 Y genes. Harvest quantity of 2. Another with 1 Y gene. And a harvest quantity of 4. Facepunch made a mechanic they dont fully understand themselves... Both in the same planter box btw.
Wonderful video! Can't wait for a automatic farm video!
Thanks! Just working out the timing on that one but I've got a circuit that will work. :)
Can you pump water from a body of water? If you have a freshwater source nearby you should be able to use a pump to fill up a lot of water barrels, right?
You're spot on with how this should work... However the reality is that it won't let us put pumps in water... I'm hoping that there's plans to give us something that will let us do that..
They should add a component invert of the fluid splitter to connect multiple water catchers to one barrel.
I'm pretty sure that's in the works currently. :)
you bots you can already do that by connecting output from a catcher to input of another and so on
@@fimob.4213 You are so nice
great guide! thanks!
stupid question time --- i'm nowhere near this level let, still planting in the ground -- do i need to water my plants in the ground? will that make them grow faster?
Nah that's not a stupid question! They won't grow faster with water, that being said the water is important so they don't die. Though if you're going for say cloth then you can likely clone it before it's an issue. Won't hurt to dump a water jug onto them though. :)
What about the cold? Can you use fireplaces or are there new greenhouse building pieces?
That was my first thought too but sadly no they don't warm it currently. Your best bet at the moment is to build a little farm in the forest and try and get a set of genes that is heavy on the H gene.
I'm really hoping they have something like a greenhouse or electric heaters or something planned.
Malonik Absolutely. No one will live in the snow until they do. Thanks for the video and reply!
No worries! :)
Great instructional video as always Mal! Cheers mate!
Thanks and no worries! :)
which is more efficient, grow speed or yield? Also what is the 200IQ method for farming near saltwater?
I want more information on this farming stuff for my squad, we need food and cloth.
Also you should consider making an 'evil wurst edited style' video on how to make a top tier farm base; step by step, quick, and idiot proof. You're the man for the job
Horsepoop Galactica @ the end LMFAO
Roflmao pretty much.
this video cant get anybetter nice work
Thanks! :)
Great guide. This new system heavily interests me. I want to learn more.
Well I've got another two vids after that one that are relevant to farming. :)
So I seem to be getting 0% influence on ground temp by running heaters. I have seen many discussions on the "comfort zone" from the heaters. I have a 2X2 grow room with 2 heaters placed in the middle on opposite sides. I have one hung about 2ft off ground and the other about 2ft from ceiling to check heat sphere size. Nothing seems to influence the garden planter though. They are currently 70degrees, whether the heaters are on or off. Any thoughts ???
I've found pretty similar things, they seem to be for player warmth not for farm warmth but realistically they should be for both lol. I'm hoping it was just an oversight that they'll fix in the next patch.
@@Malonik , seems like the fact that they have "Temp" of your plants as one of the stats for overall plant health, I guess I just assumed they would be able to be used for farm warmth, as well as player warmth. Like yourself, I am hoping it is either a bug or an oversight that will be patched on the next cycle. Thanks for the reply.
Godamn I’m glad I ran into your channel . Keep up the good work
Haha thanks and welcome! :)
Can u put the sprinkler above the light or does the light block the water
You absolutely can, they don't affect each other. Just can't place them directly in the same spot.
I would love to see a self watering build
Thankfully it doesn't seem like it's too hard, just trying to bring down the components as much as possible. :)
i think the splitters are for creating a tank system for barrels from catchers
That's fair enough but they've got to up the water generation rate on the water catchers if they want that to be effective on anything other than a monthly wipe lol.
Is perfect for role players, but we know how "welcoming" rust community to role players.
You can have all best idia and majority of server agreed with you. And leaving you with your build. But you will get 1 idiot which will destroy everything in offline raide to get 1 Corn
Lol that's true.
Make a trapbase with the watering system and a snow machine. They will freez to death when they are both wet and cold.
I have noticed that the splitter will split the water amount evenly regardless if there is flow out of the other end or not.. for example.. I have 2 hoses going to 2 valves. Valve 1 is off and valve 2 is on. Valve 2 still gets 5 water even if valve 1 is off. If I remove the hose to valve 1, valve 2 gets a full 11 water. This makes no sense to me and I think facepunch should update this issue.
Yeah that really shouldn't work that way, you're absolutely right lol.
one sprinkler per planter box or can used one sprinkler in middle or 4 box?
I've been using 3 sprinklers at the intersection of every 4 planters which seems to work pretty well.
Amazing guide bro, but i have a serious problem, even with 30 small water catchers and a barrel i cant sustain a single sprinkler to work constantly, pumpkins drain the water faster than the sprinklers fill, do u have any idea if im doing something wrong? Sorry for my bad english, hope u answer
Thanks! :) Check out my latest video on the farm setups and meta. That's the best we've got currently until we see if facepunch will give us more components or tweak the current ones to handle the demand better.
Combine that with the automatic watering system I'm doing in my next video and it should at least be manageable.
I cant figure out how to water it manually with a jug what do I do?
Question, seems like the sprinklers are eating too much water per sec. is there a specific amount of time i should keep the sprinkler on ? say the soil wetness reaches 100% and we stop or something
It's possible to have it staggered on and off... Gotta figure out the timing though because you don't want the water saturation dipping too low and affecting the crops.
I found that the best time periud of water spray for clouth is 134 seconds on 300 off
How do you get your clone or plants to have a Harvest 2? is it based on hardiness? or a specific trait?
Dude your videos are so helpful, thank you!
No worries! Glad you're enjoying them! :)
Is there a way to combine multiple water catchers into one water barrel? like in electricity solar panels use root combiners to combine electricity then to a battery.
Not yet but I believe we're getting a new component in the next patch that will let us do that. Not to mention a pump that can be submerged in rivers to pump fresh water straight from them. :)
I have a plant with 6 H and one without any however both have temperature at 25% in the snow biome and grow exactly at the same rate
Hmm... Sounds like facepunch broke the hardiness gene lol. I've heard that you can use camp fires to help raise the temp but I haven't had a chance to test it myself yet.
@Yuck Foutube I mean it'd certainly make sense lol.
Pls make more as you learn more, i need to know how to get the best genetics without spending hours trying to get s single good clone
Oh I definitely plan on doing an advanced genetics video! That being said it is going to be a lot of messing around to get a really good set of clones.
I'm having a terrible time with the wall heaters, I can't figure out why in the hell they DO NOT change the plant temperature. Even if it's 1, 2 or 20 it just does not work. I get "comfort" but the plants temp does not change at all.
Please help, am I doing something wrong or what?
What do u reckon the ratio for large planters to sprinklers is.
Got a video in the works on farm setups that will cover this but essentially I've been using 3 sprinklers for every 4 planters.
i was watching one of these Breeding Guide and he was talking about how
to press F1 and write a command and u can quickly press E to pick clones
instead of holding E but i cant find that 1 video. can anyone help me
with which video that was or whats the command PLZ
So at WHAT growth stage are we supposed to harvest these plants..??
is there any information of how much growspeed one G gives and how much yeald one Y give? would also be nice to know how much H give to the ability to survive in the cold... like if a full H plant can grow in like -12 or so... atm i have a 3xG + 3xY plant. and live on the green area near a mountain and the temp keep fk up my plants... also heaters or fire dose not seme to have any effect at all on the plants...
I haven't had a chance to get all the figures. That being said Wavey (our local mad scientist) on my discord has theorycrafted the crap out of the farming. He'd definitely be able to tell ya so could be worth jumping on and asking him.
Also yeah I noticed the heaters don't help the crops. I'm not sure if that's intended or just an oversight. I'm hoping for the latter but I guess we'll find out later this week on patch day.
Im not able to water the plants with a Jerry Can. How do you do that? PLEZZZZZ Help!
Great video dude.
Thanks! :)
Would be cool if you could grow mushrooms in planters creating a good way to farm food with out needing a light source
To be honest I'm kinda surprised that they didn't do that... Makes total sense to me...
thanks Mal for another amazing video!
No worries! :)
what button does watering can use to water plant s i cant seem to get it to water planter boxes
Why is nobody talking about the fact that you can now sell 1 corn for 1 scrap each at Bandit camp. IMO, this makes all the difference and clearly offers benefits for non-rp players as well. I fucking love it.
I had literally no idea that was a thing.... That is absolutely insane.... Like it honestly might be my new scrap grind method for fresh bp wipes...
@@MalonikAlso, you can sell cloth but at a different rate ofc, 10:1 I believe it is. So you can literally farm bp's as a ganja farmer, haha! Nice video btw.
@@PirrePuder Roflmao this absolutely makes my day! Also thanks! :)
how to drop the water with the water jug? what key must i press?
Right click while it's in your hands. :)
Is it possible to merge two inputs of water to combine them into one stream? It can be done with electric root combiner but what about water?
You can't do that as far as I can tell however you can passthrough each water collector by connecting the "water out" to another catcher's "water in", thus setting up a chain of collectors until the last collector connects to a water barrel for storage.
Couldn't have said it better myself. :)
the W means that need less water or more ?
The W means more water needed, it's a bad gene.
Was very disappointed I cannot control temperature? The new electric heater has no effect on temperature of the plants at night.
how do i get seeds back from my crops tho?
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My crops and horses keep despawning when I leave the game no matter what, and the horses don't poop. Does anyone know why?
Wait how long are you gone from the game? Because if you don't tie your horses up to troughs and give them a piece of food each per hour you're gone then they'll starve to death. Also the crops will wilt and die if you don't harvest them at the right time.
thaenks for the guid
No worries. :)
I'm wracking my head around trying to get a perfect clone. I can get as far as having 3 Y slots but then to breed into those it would over-write the Ys I have.
If I have a X - Y - Y - X - Y - X clone and a Y - X - X - X - X - X Clone, how do I breed the 1 slot Y into the first clone without over-writing any of Y's in the other slots? It's complicated. Is it possible to make a 6 slot Y clone?
Also does the placement matter? Do I have to put them adjacent to each other to crossbreed? Do they crossbreed diagonally? Do I just have to put as many good genetics as I want into the planter and hope they take over?
As far as our testing goes they seem to take on whatever gene is predominantly surrounding it.
I'm currently doing tests on genetics so I can get an advanced genetics guide together to help people figure it out.
We've gotten pretty close, predicting 5 of the 6 genes correctly. Not quite there yet though.
Pretty sure they can take genes from any they are directly connected to and that includes diagonally.
@@Malonik I've been testing by placing good clones (such as 5 green 1 red) on the four corners, letting them mature past the crossbreed phase so I don't accidentally ruin that strain, and then placing the clone I want to breed in the center.
I've not quite figured out how but I believe I can get a 6 green using this method if I use four different 5 green clones with reds on different slots so they don't over-take any gene in the center clone.
Step 1: place 5 green clones in the four corners.
Step 2: Let reach mature. This protects them from taking any red genes from the center clone allowing you to retry infinitely.
Step 3: Place a clone in the center you wish to crossbreed.
An issue comes up here where if any of the four corner clones have a red gene where there isn't more than 1 of the same green gene in that slot, the red gene will overtake.
For example, if one corner clone has an X in slot one, and each of the other corner clones have a Y, G, and H in slot 1; then the X will over-take the slot 1 of the center clone.
The trick is to find enough 5 green clones that share the same gene in the same slot.
For example. If two of the corner clones have a Y in slot 1 and while one corner clone has an X or a W in slot one; then the Y will overtake the gene in the center clone's slot 1.
I think the formula for a perfect 6 green clone would go as follows:
X - Y - Y - Y - Y - Y Y - X - Y - Y - Y - Y
Y - Y - X - Y - Y - Y
Y - Y - Y - X - Y - Y Y - Y - Y - Y - X - Y
Obviously this will be extremely difficult to find but using this method you can turn multiple clones into a 6 green gene clone and then from there you should be able to safely breed in more Y's without the risk of red genes over-taking green genes. I've not yet figured out how to breed 2 and 3 red genes out, the more red genes the harder it is to breed safely. I'm sure there's a way to take a number of 2 red clones and slowly breed up to a set of five 1 red clones to use the method I described without having to constantly roll seeds for good clones.
Hemp is much much easier to test with because you can harvest and clone before the crossbreed phase, you can also destroy bad clones with a hachet. With potatoes you cannot remove them pre-crossbreed phase; so to roll for good clones you must only place seeds in the four corners or else red genes will over-take every seed. I haven't tested with corn or pumpkins. What I have noticed is that even 3 Y pumpkins only produce 1 pumpkin per ripe phase, whereas ripe potatoes produce 6-12. Cloth seems to go from 30-50. I'm beginning to think that G genes might be more produce per hour than Y genes.
Hope this helps! Looking forward to the video on genetics.
@@Mekose Good tips. If you let the four plants in the corner mature before placing the centre one it doesn't seem to matter what genes are in the centre one.
HELL yes!
:)
I'm looking at getting into Rust. Is this apart of a normal game? All the videos I've seen are of people just hunting each other.
It definitely is part of the game and by default too (it's not a mod). There's a lot more to do than just hunting people in rust, excellent game that's definitely worth it.
@@Malonik thanks for the quick reply!
I guess I’m asking if farming, etc, is something you CAN do if you want or if it’s something you need to do to succeed in the game?
I think it’s really cool that’s there’s a lot to do and other aspects to the game, but it would also be a bummer to put all the work in to make something nice just to get wrecked by someone who’s just hunting people. but I guess that’s the point of the game? idk I’m very new to this.
@@aaronlam6929 You don't have to do farming to be successful whatsoever. That being said it has some great benefits like having heaps of food or heaps of cloth which you could use to trade.
Ultimately success in rust is hard to define because there's so much to do. It really depends what your play style and goals are.
For example sometimes I'll go hard and get end game guns and raiding gear and raid people. Some wipes I'll just be super chill and run a hotel. You can be a farmer, you can be an electrician, you can be a mechanic, hell after the next patch you can be a fucken taxi driver if you want to lol.
@@Malonik That is awesome, I'm definitely going to get the game. Thanks!
@@aaronlam6929 No worries! Get ready for one hell of a game lol.
Thank you kind sir!
Help! How do you pour water from water jug onto plants?!
Stand over the planter with the jug in your hands, look down at it and right click. :)
Yeah we need a automatic watering system , water timer etc
Couldn't agree more. Won't be hard to rig up, just need to do a lot of testing to make sure I have the timing right.
i mean set up some heart sensors or lasers so when ever you run in out or around your base it will trigger the sprinklers
Need that automatic system vid yo.
It's in the works but won't be out until next Friday. New video tomorrow though that will help with farm setups. :)
@@Malonik I've been toying with the current water system and their are issues. For 1, it is very hard to gather enough water for large scale setups. I have a Farm Tower Base on the HAAS PVE Server in the X21 grid. I have 12 small catchers on the roof that are going to gravity feed each farm "tier" below the catchers. I keep running out of water because the water collectors do not collect fast enough. I hope that Facepunch Devs have a submersible pump in the works to pump fresh water out of lakes and rivers.
@@maximumeffort3225 My video that's coming out in like 11 hours will help as best it can with the current water issue. I'd absolutely love some sort of water pump that we can put in rivers. I really hope that they have that in the works.
a server to test farming ?
Any of the build servers should work as they allow you to spawn stuff in. :)
Now pumps are here which made it really good :j
I still dont understand what the genes with a black colour do if someone could explain that would be great
The X gene is an empty slot, so it's a negative gene but not as bad because that slot isn't doing anything where as if it was a W gene for example that would make the plant require more water. The X has no negative effect but also no positive effect thus making it a negative gene...
God I hope that makes some sort of sense lol.
@@Malonik Yeah i understand that the x has no use but when I plant multiple seeds some of them get black genes and I dont get what they do
@@hvsxswaylex4732 Oh right as in the actual background is black... I was thinking you meant from my colouring of them.. hmm.. I'll have to look into that because I haven't personally seen it yet.
@@Malonik Heres a screenshot of what I mean gyazo.com/4d0ff160fae23abe96868ae87be92ec6
@@hvsxswaylex4732 Ooooooooh!!!!! Roflmao! Okay noooow I'm with ya! So the first line with the black ones is the original genes that the plant had. When the plant crossbreeds and swaps genes with its neighbours those changes happen on the second line. It keeps the black first line there to show you what the plant was and what it has changed into.
So you answer your question the black genes are the old genes that the plant had which have been replaced by the genes under them. :)
rip LiL Farm in corner of bunker
You can still do it! Just it's going to be a little room with sprinklers and a light crammed in... lol
Ah yes, a shots fan
Yup a shots fan
Liked sup and now waiting for more content
It's definitely coming! :)
Imagine doing this and just get raided. SadKek
That's why I surround my farms with windows. At least they can see it's likely just wasting booms.
Thank you= )
i has been trying to farm cloth but its dosnt seem worth i mean cost alot of time and effort , i had a seed that was YYYGGG and in 2 hours i only got 50 cloth
Wait 50 cloth from a single plant? Or 50 cloth total because even 1 full planter should be giving you more than that.
@@Malonik single plant then its around 450 every 2and half hour
@@DrKaku01 That's really not bad. Keep in mind that a normal ordinary hemp plant in the wild will take about 5 hours to grow and only give you 10 cloth.
If you set up a few more planters you could pump out 1k cloth an hour or so. Then take your excess cloth to the bandit camp and trade it in for scrap. :)
Wooooow sometimes the only thing stopping a youtuber from having millions of subs is time.
:)
what is the bgm? plz anyone tell me
It's a track titled "For Study Documentary", I bought it from either audio jungle or epidemic sound.. I think AJ...
Anyone know how to get sprinklers???
You can buy them from the bandit camp for 15 scrap. :)
Malonik thank you so much!!!!!!
got legit 5 big watcher catches into 1 then onto 2 sprinkles, 5 of them cant even run 2 sprinklers constantly anyone know why they arent getting much water?
use the water exploit for now, its much easier
@@ChrisBennett-sj5pm doesnt work for me
@@ChrisBennett-sj5pm what glkitch
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Curious what you think about this: Isn't it odd that FP pandered to kids who want everything immediately, totally happy to kill Tier 1 & 2 progression and wipe days (by addition of 4 elite crates at Mil Tuns, Cargo event, Oil rigs etc)...YET...They seem completely content to ignore that these same kind of kids have no interest in farming!?! 😵🤪 I know that the direction FP steers _what_ Rust _is_ has often been confusing and contrary to logic but this one seems especially weird.... I'd do a video about it, i just think it would fall on deaf ears...
Yeah I wish they didn't destroy the early game progress because honestly it's my favourite part. I was so excited when they announced the spin off rust that was going to be medieval purely because it'd almost be a constant early game state. Then they dragged it out back and put a bullet in it. :(
I think facepunch realizes that the people that wanted the early game sped up aren't the people that are going to be pouring time into farming, hell they probably won't even set up a farm, so why pander to them? Lol
Also some of their decisions may seem odd but if you look at the grand scheme of things and the old roadmap it really is the direction that they'd always intended to go with rust. People seem shocked that they added electricity and farming and such. Meanwhile I'm sitting here going... but this shit has been planned for years.... of course they're doing it... what? Lol
This needs a balance update. 9 water catchers cannot supply water for 1 sprinkler. Making a house with floor grills and windows gives 0 light. Yield is poor even under the best conditions. Farming needs to be a small percentage of your time in game otherwise no one will do it.
They actually just rebalanced things in the latest patch as well as adding the new farming components like the new pump that goes in your water source. Super handy. That being said I need to do an updated guide on farming as a whole as the best setup I know of currently is 1 sprinkler per 3 planters.
Also I think time and effort wise it's okay where it's at. Maybe even a little more time consuming tbh. Like currently I've got a guy on my discord generating about 5k scrap an hour out of his cloth farm (via trades at bandit camp). He not only has all the BP's but he's got 30 turrets hooked up around his base and more than a few boxes of LR's and kits and shit. He did all of this solo on a vanilla server courtesy of the farming system lol.
this is a good ass video
Thanks! :)
how do i throw the water
Hold it in your hands and right click. :)
@@Malonik I tried I think my server is broken or something but thanks for your help.
Guys, someone knows how i can up plant's temperature in the night?
As far as I know there isn't a way currently... I've tried all the things you can light on fire and they don't work. Tried stacking heaps of lights and that didn't work. I'm guessing there's some extra component on the way like maybe a heat lamp we hang over them or something.
@@Malonik I think there is an "Electric Heater" right? I wonder if that might work 🤔
@@EludeStalwart lol yeah there is, back when I replied to this there wasn't. Hilariously when they first added the electric heaters they didn't actually help the crops at all for the first patch or two lol.
Exactly
Was hard to find a gun now we will die from starvation...
Lol it's not hard to find a gun, you can grab revie and db from outpost which is enough to make a play for a better gun. Or hit up monuments.
The food side of things won't be too bad either. This is mostly framework for their tier 2 recipes which will likely give you bonus effects so it won't mean you're starving you just won't get any bonus effects from food.
RIP my 300 corn spam growing inside my compound walls
I know right... I once fed a 40 person zerg with a compound farm lol.
it wont let me dump the water jug
Holding it in your hands and right clicking? Also if you're on a build server or admin server and you're spawning the water jugs in they can't be poured out until you fill them even though there's water in them when they spawn.
5:46 Imba Corn
think they must have changed the weights of the genes unfortunately. just messed up all green genes with one red
Soon hungry zergs will raid roleplayers for food
Well if they're on the server I'm on then there will be plenty of food to go around... working on actually making the big farm from the end of the vid on a vanilla server lol.
Malonik awesome man, i do hope they make food more scarce and the spawn rate around rivers less, i mean it will have an impact on a zergs medical and food economy, and maybe give a fighting chance to smaller groups who knows. But yeah they can just raid for it haha
Thats a lotta tarp
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lol
Wish they had dropped the skins before the update!
Me too!!! They are perfect for a farm!! Lol