Quick question, I have pressure treated hemlock 4 x 12 25’ for my balcony stringers. I applied water seal decking on the top of the stringers where the railing is attached. Is there anything that you would suggest with protecting the stringers from rot and sun damage? Great content, appreciate all the work you’re putting into the channel.
Your videos are great! UV resistance? How fast will this tape degrade in direct sunlight in the pacific northwest (not for a deck but for rehab of ailing structures to get more life out of them)?
Instead of tape, Armadillo makes a plastic joist cover that fits over the top of a joist. Just tape the joints. Not sure if screws cause it to leak though. Will know soon.
If you're spending $15K-$20K on a damn deck, why the hell wouldn't you do everything you possibly can to avoid paying that kind of money again before it's absolutely necessary?
I have noticed some soft rot in a few spots as described in this video. Is there any way to save that joist or should it be replaced? (They're not taped)
That depends, if you wnat your deck to last >30 years, you really want to ensure your joists dont rot at all, and not just in Floridian and Pacific Northwest. SE up to even Philly. That said, of course then you have to worry about your main posts near ground and your hangers - for me you either go all out (stainless hangers and joist tape under everything or forget about it as you say
@@StrongEye Nope. Pressure treated still rots. We have a cabin in Montana and I got about five years out of it. There's not downside to using joist tape...even on pressure treated wood.
I don't see how that would protect the lumber. I would have to believe water would find it's way in. Use a perma-column and quit putting pt lumber in the ground.
Good God, I have SCOURED the internet trying to find what tape is compatible with AZEK. Even Timbertech doesn't make it clear if Timbertech tape is compatible with AZEK. WTF! Currently, I think GTape -- which I believe is acrylic-based -- is compatible with AZEK. I even saw Dr.Decks using GTape with AZEK in one of his videos. If you find the definitive answer, PLEASE let me know.
My deck is going to require 30 rolls of 2"x50' tape. If I pay $40 roll it will cost $1,200! Can someone please tell my why Butyl tape from Amazon at $7.99 roll will not work the same?
Here in Australia we’ve got this thin rubber on a roll with wings on it You basically roll it along and put a stubby broad head 10 mm nail every 1 m or so It costs about a dollar a metre... it’s called “protectadeck” and for whatever reason timbertek joist tape hardly used... don’t think I could Buy it if my life depended on it sometimes in specific areas where the rain really comes in you can use paint on bitumen paint on the wood plus some 0.3 mm aluminium flashing that’s coated in bitumen plus a bit of the rubber stuff between those three things you’re doing pretty good
I was told that there is a liquid version of this tape that you can roll on with a paint roller. It looks like tar but is rubber etc just like the tape. Is that true?
I know it's been about a year since you asked this question. You may have already found the answer to your question but I'll tell you what I use anyway. I use a product called Anchorseal 2. It's a hybrid wax and polymer end sealer.
I live in South Texas, we have prolonged droughts interrupted by floods. I just don’t think this is required in dry climates. UV is what I m worried about. The sun sucks sap out of treated would here… if this is purely for moisture protection I don t see the benefit in South Texas…
I don’t know, Timber does not recommend joist tape. The chemical reaction of the tape and planks will eventually break it down. Maybe they came up with something new. Check installation instructions
Henry 107 -$13.00 for 0.9 gallon. You can build the average deck with two pails (less than 2 gallons). I'm not being paid. I priced the tape and couldn't believe the price. The downside is that Henry 107 has to dry for 48 hours. Just plan ahead and work around it.
Can I assume that this tape is slightly cushioning, and helps to reduce wood on wood squeaking?
Quick question, I have pressure treated hemlock 4 x 12 25’ for my balcony stringers. I applied water seal decking on the top of the stringers where the railing is attached. Is there anything that you would suggest with protecting the stringers from rot and sun damage? Great content, appreciate all the work you’re putting into the channel.
What’s this about using a pond liner to create a dry space and channel water away? How does that work?
Your videos are great! UV resistance? How fast will this tape degrade in direct sunlight in the pacific northwest (not for a deck but for rehab of ailing structures to get more life out of them)?
I can appreciate the added protection, but then there's little to no reason to use pt wood above grade (except code) especially if treating the ends.
PT is only for ground contact! So much miss info and noobs! Cedar will last 20+ years!
Go like Gunga den? You make me laugh like hell every time I hear you say it, thank you!!!
Instead of tape, Armadillo makes a plastic joist cover that fits over the top of a joist. Just tape the joints. Not sure if screws cause it to leak though. Will know soon.
If you're spending $15K-$20K on a damn deck, why the hell wouldn't you do everything you possibly can to avoid paying that kind of money again before it's absolutely necessary?
Any recommendations on installing this after the fact? I have a timber tech deck with unprotected joists.
Im assuming this tape won't react with the PT lumber like the Grace Vycor membrane did in one of your videos.??????
I have noticed some soft rot in a few spots as described in this video. Is there any way to save that joist or should it be replaced? (They're not taped)
For the love of God, will someone please tell me if GTape is compatible with AZEK?
My builder refused to apply it. :( He said Pressure treated lumber does not need it. I live in NW
He is correct
That depends, if you wnat your deck to last >30 years, you really want to ensure your joists dont rot at all, and not just in Floridian and Pacific Northwest. SE up to even Philly. That said, of course then you have to worry about your main posts near ground and your hangers - for me you either go all out (stainless hangers and joist tape under everything or forget about it as you say
I coudl totally agree with him 30 years ago, but today the PT lumber is just so much crap
@@StrongEye Nope. Pressure treated still rots. We have a cabin in Montana and I got about five years out of it. There's not downside to using joist tape...even on pressure treated wood.
Is it a good idea to add this to stringers too?
Thanks for the video! Could I use this on the bottom of 4x4 posts that will be in contact with cement?
I don't see how that would protect the lumber. I would have to believe water would find it's way in. Use a perma-column and quit putting pt lumber in the ground.
Great video Dr Deck. For Azek PVC (not composites) is the tape material compatible with the PVC material?
Good God, I have SCOURED the internet trying to find what tape is compatible with AZEK. Even Timbertech doesn't make it clear if Timbertech tape is compatible with AZEK. WTF! Currently, I think GTape -- which I believe is acrylic-based -- is compatible with AZEK. I even saw Dr.Decks using GTape with AZEK in one of his videos. If you find the definitive answer, PLEASE let me know.
Thanks brada
My deck is going to require 30 rolls of 2"x50' tape. If I pay $40 roll it will cost $1,200! Can someone please tell my why Butyl tape from Amazon at $7.99 roll will not work the same?
Here in Australia we’ve got this thin rubber on a roll with wings on it
You basically roll it along and put a stubby broad head 10 mm nail every 1 m or so
It costs about a dollar a metre...
it’s called “protectadeck” and for whatever reason timbertek joist tape hardly used... don’t think I could Buy it if my life depended on it
sometimes in specific areas where the rain really comes in you can use paint on bitumen paint on the wood plus some 0.3 mm aluminium flashing that’s coated in bitumen plus a bit of the rubber stuff
between those three things you’re doing pretty good
I was told that there is a liquid version of this tape that you can roll on with a paint roller. It looks like tar but is rubber etc just like the tape. Is that true?
I have been using 2 coats of FlexSeal liquid rubber, but on wood decking joists.
What end grain stuff do you use to seal the ends?
I know it's been about a year since you asked this question. You may have already found the answer to your question but I'll tell you what I use anyway. I use a product called Anchorseal 2. It's a hybrid wax and polymer end sealer.
@@danven1256 There's a product named Copper Coat made by Wood Life that I use.
Wood preservative copper napthenate. It's ugly and messy, but if it's under your deck, then who cares.
do you have to tuck the tape over or can you leave it hanging... for example on that double block can I just leave the tape as is without tucking?
You could but it’s always good to set the tape as much as possible
@@drdecks so what are your thoughts on shims and how to protect them from deteriorating... where should they be placed and plastic only?
I live in South Texas, we have prolonged droughts interrupted by floods. I just don’t think this is required in dry climates. UV is what I m worried about. The sun sucks sap out of treated would here… if this is purely for moisture protection I don t see the benefit in South Texas…
4:10! biggest question answered! ty
7:25 is a reverse lap
I don’t know, Timber does not recommend joist tape. The chemical reaction of the tape and planks will eventually break it down. Maybe they came up with something new. Check installation instructions
Can’t you get a hold of a better pressure treated lumber where you live that doesn’t require tape?
No.
Most of these tapes reccomend not using them with untreated wood or PVC
Henry 107 -$13.00 for 0.9 gallon. You can build the average deck with two pails (less than 2 gallons).
I'm not being paid. I priced the tape and couldn't believe the price. The downside is that Henry 107 has to dry for 48 hours. Just plan ahead and work around it.
Only problem with Henry 107 is it will make your deck smell like asphalt and tar. Especially in the hot summers. You want it to stink? Nope.
Nice
Man - I go for Walther Strong DECKTAPE all day long!!!!!! Good vid though people should be aware of this.
Very expensive tape i was at lowes yesterday and it is 18 dollars to cover three 16 footers floor joist $$$$
But you're spending how much on the deck in the first place?
Can i apply to my feet to walk on hot sandy beaches?
Why do you choose to use pressure treated hemlock, rather than pressure treated southern yellow pine?
He's in the Pacific Northwest. That's what they use.
So used construction adhesive has been wrong all these decades