I have it's little brother, the 24-105 f/4, and it's just as versatile. Even at F4, it does well with portraits, especially at the longer end. And it's an amazing video performer just like the 24-70. And it's about $1000 cheaper. So if f/2.8 isn't a necessity (and for most people, I don't think it is), the 24-105 f/4L is a fine alternative.
Yep, I shoot with an L Series 24-105 and a 70-200. A 24-70 with that clarity and that 2.8 would be spectacular in low light situations. I shoot some long exposure stuff at night with my 70-200 just because of the f/2.8.
That was actually my first RF lens! I ended up selling it awhile back because i never used it and bought a Ricoh GR III for when i travel and explore cities. Sure miss that lens but it needed an owner that would actually use it.
I love my 24-70 too, it is just so versatile. If I ever need to grab a single lens and run to get a job done it will almost always the 24-70. But, when it comes to the wow factor, my 85mm f 1.4 prime will always be my absolute favorite... unless I can afford the 1.2 version someday. It's just such a flattering focal range for portraits and other specific projects.
Kevin. You are absolutely correct about that wow factor. I have not had the pleasure of using the 85mm prime, but i get the same feeling with my 70-200. I bet those shots come out great on the 85!
Agreed. I have had the 85mm f1.2 and it’s a beast. I was able to sell it for what I bought it for though and found a really cheap Samsung 85mm f1.4 AF. Not gonna lie, aside from some vignetting. It provides a great wow factor for portraits
oh well im using 2 a two lens combo rf28mm for wide and rf70-200 2.8 for everything else. And as you would expect I almost never used the rf 28mm as I use the 70-200 99.7% of the time. I bought the 28 so I don't need to buy 24-70 2.8. Well, it kind of works for me but in tight space social gathering situations and group photos I am sometimes limited in my capabilities.
I just bought the RF 24-105 f4 : amazing versatility on the R6 Mark II. Great even in low light with perfect stabilization. For 1030€ v 2300€ for the 24-70 2.8. As a quality non-professional photographer this is perfect in combination with a RF 100-500 and a 15-35mm. So the money I saved with the 24-105 goes into the wide angle lens for city tours. While the 100-500 will focus on distant subject and object imaging. These lenses will last a decade easily.🎉
Years ago when I started doing weddings with Canon 6Ds, my first two lenses were the EF 24-70 2.8L II and the 70-200 f/2.8L II. And those two were very versatile! I now have 13 lenses, but my old 24-70 has been my most used lens! I’ve now moved the the same RF 24-70 and still a great (even better) lens!
Right, my exact thoughts. Versatility is very nice and indeed it will make you not want to use your other lenses anymore, Unless you come to a point that other lenses are capable of making the difference. For example -Telephoto shots that are beyond 70mm -Macro shots (who doesn't want to zoom into spiders?) -Difficult low-light situations -Super wide real estate photography. -Crazy bokeh for the target audience? (not me). -Street photography (this lens is too big for a snapshot scenario and can't go into a small shoulder bag and is heavy and big, draws attention) -If you are on a budget. Probably some more to list.. So, other lenses don't go anywhere, they are valuable still.
The wider the lens the more distortion you'll have. I'd recommend 24mm. It will be wide and still have some distortion but not as much as wider lenses. The human eyes sees at roughly 50mm so that could give you a good idea or even my vids. I normally film at 24mm for my talking head shots.
The range is great as you've said. I have the RF 28-70mm f/2 though. It's a hunk of glass - you'll get a workout... but I barely put it down in my travels abroad. Range, optics and bokeh when you need it.
I need professional advice! I’ve got the R6 Mark II with the following lenses; RF 85mm F2/Macro RF 35mm F1.8/Macro RF 18mm - 150mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM I’m looking at selling them and getting one of these 2. What do you think?
@@Realwildshots for subjects like that, I really enjoy using my 100mm macro lens. It's sharp and can get you so close to your subject to capture details other lenses cant. You can also use the macro for portraits but I prefer around 50mm for portraits.
I had the EF 24-70 2.8 since i started photography on my 350D almost 20 years ago, but i never used it much especially for weddings. it was kind of a unloved backup lens to my primes. however when i started filming with the R5C i bought the RF 24-70 2.8 mainly for its IS and to have a one lens does all solution. since then i really learned to like that lens for photography too. its tack sharp, handles and balances super nicely, has really fast and silent autofocus and when i dont want to bring two camera bodys with a wide/tele prime combo for smaller jobs or holidays i simply take the zoom. personally i dont need 24mm often, would gladly take a bit longer tele end and a bit more bokeh at ~35mm would also be lovely but overall its a very nice lens. i would trade it without hesitation for the tamron 35-150 though, but i dont think we will get that in the next few years on RF mount. shame on you canon.
Everything you said is spot on! Definitely love the lens and I am with you. I wish we had the option for third party lenses. It would be so much more affordable and more variety 😭
What focus ranges do you use your RF 70-200/2.8 L? Is the new RF 24-105/2.8 L a viable option, not considering price? Or do you need the longer focal range from 105mm to 200mm. EF used to have the 135/2 and 200/2.8 primes that I owned and used a lot. Take care.
I find myself more in the 125-150 range with my 70-200. The RF 24-105 f/2.8 was considered but that was an extra $1000 i didn't want to shell out. The 24-70 is honestly fine. I just love my 70-200 too much lol.
@@marcoavaldez I use both primes at 35/1.4, 50/1.2, 85/1.2, and 135/1.8, (also 100/2.8 macro) and the 15-35/2.8, 24-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8 RF L trinity.
Me too. Ultimately though for me it comes down to the versatility of the former. And that I hear the 24-70 can give you 90% of the sharpness of the 50mm @ the same focal lenghts. If I were a professional than I might go with nifty.
You would love it! I used to be all primes but then I got into zooms and they are so handy! I love just leaving my 24-70 on and not having to worry about much 🙏🏼
Join the world of prime photography and leave those zooms behind :) Totally changed my photography workflow. BTW not a fan of the clickbate title. As content viewer it's so disingenuous.
Really good video and I agree 100% on the versatility of a 24-70mm f2.8. I shoot Sony so I recently picked up the new Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 Art II which goes for £1179/$1199. I really hope Canon users get 3rd party FF options someday.
I considered that one for sure! I didn't go for it because of the price. I've also heard the sharpness isn't the best but I can't confirm since I've not used it. Even if it's not sharp, I'm sure it's still a solid lens that solves a lot of problems.
@@marcoavaldezI have it and it’s not soft. I started using it for softball when I position myself by home-plate. It’s replaced my 24-70 f/2.8. The pics are great and the lens is very fast.
Sure is a nice lens... but if you use Sony you have the choice of the (very good/expensive) Sony 24-70/2.8, or the new Sigma 24-70, or theTamron 28-75, and the 35-150...!! Plus you can extend the focal range with Sony's high Mpix bodies...!! I'm a Canon user but I feel it is my duty to expose their (expensive) choice limitations. The more people that go to Sony, the better.
You are right about that. I love Canon but I'm not a fan of limiting the choices. Id gladly love an alternative for more competitive pricing and innovation.
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf hehe yeah... I was at a job today and its not that bad.. A little heavy yeah.. but the other guy next to me that had the RF 24-105 f 2.8 on his R3 and me switching between adapted EF 85 f1.2, my EF 24 f.1.4 and my EF 50 mm f.1.4 was shooting the same things at this MMA fight weight in (the fight is tomorrow) He was on that lens the whole time, and I had to be ready and switch around the lenses as fast as possible to not miss anything.. I know what im gonna do soon, and the EF lenses is going to be sold now :P
@@Jimmybeakble why not get the 24-70 F2.8 and 70-200 F2.8? It works out more cost effective as the 24-105 is very expensive and the form factor of both of those lenses is better than the 24-105 whilst covering the entire coverage.
So it made you lazy, and now the quality of your wedding videos is compromised because you don't make the effort to achieve wide angles when needed and super telephoto shots when necessary.
I wouldn't say lazy. It made it easier and no. My wedding film didn't suffer because I got wide, medium, and telephoto shots in it. Plus I had my 2nd cam with the 70-200mm on a tripod as a backup.
I have it's little brother, the 24-105 f/4, and it's just as versatile. Even at F4, it does well with portraits, especially at the longer end. And it's an amazing video performer just like the 24-70. And it's about $1000 cheaper. So if f/2.8 isn't a necessity (and for most people, I don't think it is), the 24-105 f/4L is a fine alternative.
Yep, I shoot with an L Series 24-105 and a 70-200. A 24-70 with that clarity and that 2.8 would be spectacular in low light situations. I shoot some long exposure stuff at night with my 70-200 just because of the f/2.8.
That was actually my first RF lens! I ended up selling it awhile back because i never used it and bought a Ricoh GR III for when i travel and explore cities. Sure miss that lens but it needed an owner that would actually use it.
@@marcoavaldez I just sold my zv-1 because I only use my r6 mark ii 😂
The F8 is even 300$ cheaper.
So would you rather have the 24-70mm or the 28-70mm? I'm having a hard time deciding 😫
I love my 24-70 too, it is just so versatile. If I ever need to grab a single lens and run to get a job done it will almost always the 24-70. But, when it comes to the wow factor, my 85mm f 1.4 prime will always be my absolute favorite... unless I can afford the 1.2 version someday. It's just such a flattering focal range for portraits and other specific projects.
Kevin. You are absolutely correct about that wow factor. I have not had the pleasure of using the 85mm prime, but i get the same feeling with my 70-200. I bet those shots come out great on the 85!
Agreed. I have had the 85mm f1.2 and it’s a beast. I was able to sell it for what I bought it for though and found a really cheap Samsung 85mm f1.4 AF. Not gonna lie, aside from some vignetting. It provides a great wow factor for portraits
oh well im using 2 a two lens combo rf28mm for wide and rf70-200 2.8 for everything else. And as you would expect I almost never used the rf 28mm as I use the 70-200 99.7% of the time.
I bought the 28 so I don't need to buy 24-70 2.8. Well, it kind of works for me but in tight space social gathering situations and group photos I am sometimes limited in my capabilities.
I just bought the RF 24-105 f4 : amazing versatility on the R6 Mark II. Great even in low light with perfect stabilization. For 1030€ v 2300€ for the 24-70 2.8. As a quality non-professional photographer this is perfect in combination with a RF 100-500 and a 15-35mm. So the money I saved with the 24-105 goes into the wide angle lens for city tours. While the 100-500 will focus on distant subject and object imaging. These lenses will last a decade easily.🎉
Years ago when I started doing weddings with Canon 6Ds, my first two lenses were the EF 24-70 2.8L II and the 70-200 f/2.8L II. And those two were very versatile! I now have 13 lenses, but my old 24-70 has been my most used lens! I’ve now moved the the same RF 24-70 and still a great (even better) lens!
The perfect combination is the 24-70 and 70-200 for sure!!!
does RF better than EF in sharpness and bokeh ?
RF is better but don't knock the EF glass. It's still really good and more affordable. You'll just need an adapter.
Oh how i wish the 24-105 f/2.8L was smaller and lighter!
And a bit cheaper 🥲
@@marcoavaldez yeah but if it wasnt so big I would love it as one lens to rule them all 😊and right now its big heavy AND expensive 😅
Happily rocking an EF 24-70 Sigma ART adapted for cheap , but the ideal RF lens is the new 24-105mm f/2.8
Right, my exact thoughts. Versatility is very nice and indeed it will make you not want to use your other lenses anymore,
Unless you come to a point that other lenses are capable of making the difference.
For example
-Telephoto shots that are beyond 70mm
-Macro shots (who doesn't want to zoom into spiders?)
-Difficult low-light situations
-Super wide real estate photography.
-Crazy bokeh for the target audience? (not me).
-Street photography (this lens is too big for a snapshot scenario and can't go into a small shoulder bag and is heavy and big, draws attention)
-If you are on a budget.
Probably some more to list..
So, other lenses don't go anywhere, they are valuable still.
Newbie here. Whats the best lens for TH-cam videos and make up tutorials without distortion? Something that is flattering. 🙏
The wider the lens the more distortion you'll have. I'd recommend 24mm. It will be wide and still have some distortion but not as much as wider lenses. The human eyes sees at roughly 50mm so that could give you a good idea or even my vids. I normally film at 24mm for my talking head shots.
The range is great as you've said. I have the RF 28-70mm f/2 though. It's a hunk of glass - you'll get a workout... but I barely put it down in my travels abroad. Range, optics and bokeh when you need it.
I need professional advice!
I’ve got the R6 Mark II with the following lenses;
RF 85mm F2/Macro
RF 35mm F1.8/Macro
RF 18mm - 150mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM
I’m looking at selling them and getting one of these 2.
What do you think?
Which lens are you considering? What do you photograph the most? Portraits? Landscapes? Food?
@@marcoavaldez basically gastronomy, wine, vineyards and eventually people!
Not a photographer though!
The one I use the most it’s the 85mm..
@@Realwildshots for subjects like that, I really enjoy using my 100mm macro lens. It's sharp and can get you so close to your subject to capture details other lenses cant. You can also use the macro for portraits but I prefer around 50mm for portraits.
Is there anywhere we can find what you are using in this video? (camera, lens, lighting etc.)
It's all in the description! I should probably make a video about my gear though 😅
I had the EF 24-70 2.8 since i started photography on my 350D almost 20 years ago, but i never used it much especially for weddings. it was kind of a unloved backup lens to my primes.
however when i started filming with the R5C i bought the RF 24-70 2.8 mainly for its IS and to have a one lens does all solution. since then i really learned to like that lens for photography too. its tack sharp, handles and balances super nicely, has really fast and silent autofocus and when i dont want to bring two camera bodys with a wide/tele prime combo for smaller jobs or holidays i simply take the zoom. personally i dont need 24mm often, would gladly take a bit longer tele end and a bit more bokeh at ~35mm would also be lovely but overall its a very nice lens. i would trade it without hesitation for the tamron 35-150 though, but i dont think we will get that in the next few years on RF mount. shame on you canon.
Everything you said is spot on! Definitely love the lens and I am with you. I wish we had the option for third party lenses. It would be so much more affordable and more variety 😭
What focus ranges do you use your RF 70-200/2.8 L? Is the new RF 24-105/2.8 L a viable option, not considering price? Or do you need the longer focal range from 105mm to 200mm. EF used to have the 135/2 and 200/2.8 primes that I owned and used a lot. Take care.
I find myself more in the 125-150 range with my 70-200. The RF 24-105 f/2.8 was considered but that was an extra $1000 i didn't want to shell out. The 24-70 is honestly fine. I just love my 70-200 too much lol.
@@marcoavaldez I use both primes at 35/1.4, 50/1.2, 85/1.2, and 135/1.8, (also 100/2.8 macro) and the 15-35/2.8, 24-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8 RF L trinity.
im debating getting this or a 50mm 1.2 ugh
Me too. Ultimately though for me it comes down to the versatility of the former. And that I hear the 24-70 can give you 90% of the sharpness of the 50mm @ the same focal lenghts. If I were a professional than I might go with nifty.
I really want this lens as I don't own a zoom. I have a 35mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.8, the former rarely leaves my R6 body.
You would love it! I used to be all primes but then I got into zooms and they are so handy! I love just leaving my 24-70 on and not having to worry about much 🙏🏼
Join the world of prime photography and leave those zooms behind :) Totally changed my photography workflow. BTW not a fan of the clickbate title. As content viewer it's so disingenuous.
Really good video and I agree 100% on the versatility of a 24-70mm f2.8.
I shoot Sony so I recently picked up the new Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 Art II which goes for £1179/$1199. I really hope Canon users get 3rd party FF options someday.
I am hoping the same! Having third party options would be so great for my pockets. You have options with Sony.
I might buy the Leica D-Lux 8. 24-75mm F1.7-2.8
Let me know if you do! I've always wanted a Leica and would love to hear your thoughts.
@@marcoavaldez I only bought an R6II six months ago. Maybe I'll buy the Leica in a few years' time. It's small and handy 😀
Dude are you in Colorado Springs? I recognized the wedding shot at Garden of the Gods!
@@davidmasseyphoto I wish! I love Colorado Springs. I am in Texas. Roughly 5 hours away so the trip is easy.
What about this then?
CANON RF 24-105MM F2.8L IS USM Z
I considered that one for sure! I didn't go for it because of the price. I've also heard the sharpness isn't the best but I can't confirm since I've not used it. Even if it's not sharp, I'm sure it's still a solid lens that solves a lot of problems.
@@marcoavaldezI heard it's super sharp. Never seen anyone with it to use it though 😂
It would be a fun lens to use and we'd surely get a workout out of it 💪🏻
This lens feels geared toward video. That's the only real advantage I can think of for having a powered zoom.
@@marcoavaldezI have it and it’s not soft. I started using it for softball when I position myself by home-plate. It’s replaced my 24-70 f/2.8. The pics are great and the lens is very fast.
Well, here we have 24-105 f2.8
That looks like a nice lens 😍
I'm so sick of these click-baity intros and titles. So dramatic. Such useless info. It feels like every review is made by some kinda "influencer".
Gen-Z nowadays....
“The Workhorse” 🙌🏾
@@LuigiL75 you are right! It's definitely "The Workhorse" 💪🏻
i was about to say the 35-150 might be a better fit , but then i realized you're on an RF Mount
I sure am. I wish Canon would be quicker about more options and give third party the ok to make lenses. That would be great!
@@marcoavaldez theyrr opening it slowly, but i have the feeling the 35-150 wont be near ( itll kill their 2870f2 and 24105 2.8 sales )
Sure is a nice lens... but if you use Sony you have the choice of the (very good/expensive) Sony 24-70/2.8, or the new Sigma 24-70, or theTamron 28-75, and the 35-150...!!
Plus you can extend the focal range with Sony's high Mpix bodies...!!
I'm a Canon user but I feel it is my duty to expose their (expensive) choice limitations. The more people that go to Sony, the better.
You are right about that. I love Canon but I'm not a fan of limiting the choices. Id gladly love an alternative for more competitive pricing and innovation.
i have the same fear. if i buy this lens my 70-200 huhuhu
Just get the RF 24-105 F2.8 and sell all your other lenses to finance it
Modern problems require modern solutions! You are right.
@@marcoavaldez I mean it is pretty expensive though 🫣
@@baekmedier its massive tho
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf hehe yeah... I was at a job today and its not that bad..
A little heavy yeah.. but the other guy next to me that had the RF 24-105 f 2.8 on his R3 and me switching between adapted EF 85 f1.2, my EF 24 f.1.4 and my EF 50 mm f.1.4 was shooting the same things at this MMA fight weight in (the fight is tomorrow)
He was on that lens the whole time, and I had to be ready and switch around the lenses as fast as possible to not miss anything.. I know what im gonna do soon, and the EF lenses is going to be sold now :P
@@Jimmybeakble why not get the 24-70 F2.8 and 70-200 F2.8? It works out more cost effective as the 24-105 is very expensive and the form factor of both of those lenses is better than the 24-105 whilst covering the entire coverage.
Im sorry to hear the lens is literally GLUED to your camera body... now you can hardly even sell the body abumore 😢
Subed! :)
7 mins of rambling - bla, bla, bla
You don't have to watch 🤷🏻♂️
@@marcoavaldez certainly won't anymore 👋
@@JK-of4dr sounds good. Take care.
@@marcoavaldezweird he even clicked to watch.
So it made you lazy, and now the quality of your wedding videos is compromised because you don't make the effort to achieve wide angles when needed and super telephoto shots when necessary.
I wouldn't say lazy. It made it easier and no. My wedding film didn't suffer because I got wide, medium, and telephoto shots in it. Plus I had my 2nd cam with the 70-200mm on a tripod as a backup.