Can My 20-Year-Old M3 Keep Up With A New Civic Type R?
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Am I the only one who would prefer the M3 over the TypeR?
Nope, so would I.
thank god
Me too. It's a car and not a robot.
no most people would prefer the e36
I thought so as well, but 90℅ of the comments are nothing but JDM fan boys
"We were supposed to have a race and you turned up in a Civic"
Lmao
Lonely Fuck best quote ever!!!
Lonely Fuck This sounds like something Jeremy Clarkson would say to Richard Hammond if he did the same thing.
Yea it was less of a race and more of a murder 😂😂
And then he loses to it. #rekt
you should make a video of can the 20 year old civic keep up with the new bmw?
Dan Workin or can a 20 year old NSX keep up with a new BMW.
@@SIIKAP1 nsx is a super car... And the bmw e36 can keep up but not pass the nsx.. Nsx can keep up with mclaren f1? (bmw engine V12 inside It and Transmission) not even close
@Xrist Ps4 the origina NSX is not a super car.
Comparing a 270-290 hp NSX to an over 600hp actual supercar is moronic.
@@SIIKAP1 it is it had performance (for the time) it's exclusive you don't see a lot it's exotic well it looks the part tell me what more do you desire of a supercar
Triass777 the original NSX was never a super car. It looked exotic and performed well, but super cars don’t have less than 300 hp. A super car is in a whole other league. Such as a Porsche Carrera GT, Ferrari 488, Lamborghini Gallardo.
"when the vannos kicks in"
everything becomes whooy
Do u mean vanoss? xD
japaneez
It’s Vanos
@@eduardojoaquinrodriguez2188 Thats what ya get for being a pedantic, critical little prick......fucked it up yerself didnt ya....tosser. STFU.
"It does kind of scream rice."
Civic Type R in a nutshell.
yep
at least the new generations.
"new civic typer R"you mean
Really too embarrassing looking to be seen in.
tolfiboy Uhmmm... what do you mean by "New Civic TYPER R"?
The e36 M3 was the car that got me into cars. It's always been special to me and it thoroughly excites me that you release content on it. Please never stop. Cheers from America.
MURICA!
As a 1992 e36 325i owner I also enjoy these e36 appreciation vids!
Same here... I miss my E36 M3
B. Harold - I own a 94 318is. Unfortunately i haven't been able to get it running again. Bad engine. Still lovely to sit behind the wheel and imagine.
why oh why. Never understood the fascination with this car.
The Bimmer looks so much cooler and is still reasonably fast.
@Joseph C. E36 was the most reliable car ive ever had.
Not really. Honda any day
@@Zirkobi I'd rather get a 8th gen Honda SI than the current gen type R. Then again at least Honda is nice enough that they dont allow you to rice the type r.
You cant rice your Type R if the factory already did lmao
No its not
Tesla looks better for me (biased)
Holy shit how'd you get a stock e36 in such amazing condition
Money
@@maksor2785 mone mone mone
It was rusty
cause it was in shite condition
@@Fantastika For its age it was in pretty good condition
good job Honda! it only took you 20 years of extra engineering to barely beat the bmw 😂😂😂
You can say what you like but keep in mind that it CTR was 8 seconds faster than BMW M4 on Nürburgring😂 Cheers :)
trevor philips shut the fuck up
Yes, a BMW with not factory suspension, not factory tires and no rear seats.
Do it to the Civic and i will be 3+ seconds faster.
trevor philips lol
the m3 had suspension and exhaest done to it + when new it was double the price
Hatchback civics shouldn't even be a thing...
Please stfu
the newest hatchback civic looks gorgeous to me, but I agree this one's a little... off.
SEDAN civics shouldn't be a thing
Ep3 type r buddy
hatchback civics should be the only civics...
Pretty sure he could squeeze another second or two from that civic. I would imagine he can maximize the potential of the M3 much better since he is much more familiar with that car.
I’d rather take E36 M3 any day over the Type R.
Stupid choice
@@unknownidentity3824 Yeah, no.
Valencio Da
@@timolangen5414 very stupid choice. only children would make such decisions. first you should compare prices
No, you would not.
"I'm pretty much a racing driver"
Amen
it's rice for ppl never owned a type-r
blow me
Domass7 nope its rice to everyone
Lietuvis
😂😂😂got it😂😂😂
(How to not get your driving license)
What kind of car does a pirate drive?
A Type AAAARRRR
Get out
stfu
Aye... and the stick shift be murder with pegs!
WHATS A PAIRATES FAVORITE LETTER??!!
cock
"How does a front wheel drive car have so much grip?"
lol
lol you can't be taken seriously in that civic space ship
Thats what all who looses against it says
I cant take shitcar seriously
Honda is a good car, reliable and fast. BMW is shit, unreliable and makes you look like a prick... Jealous much?
Nikola Nikola what did you just say???
@@erntfk9718 Truth😁
Hmm could it be that he is used to driving the bmw and not the honda. Worthless race
my thoughts exactly
Chris Ramos if it was a different driver for both cars it would have been better. But keep in mind the m3 has more engine wear on it, weakish brakes, and is 20 years old.
That wouldn't explain why he was faster in the Honda..
The m3 also has coilovers and better tires.
He probably could have had a much better laptime in the Honda though.
Next upgrades for Colin, brakes, and an electric fan.
Alex has to pick up the zionsville cooling system for his e36, it's all proper aluminum and indestructible
or just flush the coolant and change the visco coupleur
@@Ryukachoo I'd just go with the orginal stock system that lasted almost 30 years,"plastic" impeller and all
3:21 when vtec kicks in
I’d rather have the M3 over the type R any day😍
Well a modern Type R anyway. I would love either a e39 m5 v8 manual or integra dc2 or dc5 or civic ek9
Yeah if u have more than 1 car . If that is only car . U got a hard life
if you can maintain it, its a great car, but overall the new type r is much better
@@chrism869 4 years later I’d still rather have the M3 I have an E46 currently
Alex is pretty much a racing driver
C.R. Young I think he was joking lol
C.R. Young 😂😂😂
User User pretty much
I still can't get over the fact that he's giving his cars male names 😂
TheLuckyDawg24 DRGS What is wrong with that?
that's just sexist xD
my cars called Hugo...
+FrequencyOfThought Exactly 😂😂
I am also a man, driving a car with a man's name. in was unaware that naming something as the same gender as yourself denoted sexuality anyway
When the Vanos breaks..... thought every bmw owner
at least when you drive the bmw you still have your dignity
Dylan Thomas Really?
Paul Stevens duh. Who wants to drive a Honda with fake air intakes.
AJ VP Because its mostly wankers that drive BMWs and that honda is a beast
LOL no thanks. The M3 is just another boring and characterless German box that will blend nicely into the scenery of the many other German boxes on UK roads. The Honda looks fantastic and is frankly, refreshingly individual and unique.
Paul Stevens Honda and beast are oxymoronic
who here was still hoping for the m3 to win
Me.
Alex Kersten I think it still won in our hearts
I was too. to me the m3 us one of the greatest cars ever. I'd still take an m3 over a m4 or something. my dream car list is e36 m3, skyline r32,33, or 34 mk4 supra, and 67 Shelby mustang gt500
Mark Irwin I couldn't agree with u more, I'll take that list of dream cars any day
what it comes down too is who the cars are themselves vs all the others out there. they defined super car and sports car heritage for what it is today. the attitude and everything else about them. no other cars out there can match them. the only car that can match them on the fun factor and put a smile on your face is the mx5 miata.
Of course the new car will win. If it doesn't then I've lost faith in automotive innovation...
***** Top Gear is fully staged...
Well, a 2008 stock Lexus IS350 hits 0-60 faster than a 2016 IS350 even with F-sport .-.
The new one is probably scripted that's why it's not funny I'm talking about the old one
Yeah, it only took the Japanese 2 decades. The Honda may be faster. But the BMW has better handling platform. You can never build a FWD car, to out handle as good as a RWD car. Everything you can do to that Honda. You can do better with a RWD balance platform car.
If you want innovation to change, go buy the cars new that you want to be made
*watches video of BMW and Honda.* *gets Audi advert.*
I've got a e36 convertible and I love it! The type R is a complete animal on the track and for the money.......few cars can touch it except for the high performance ford focus ! Job well done Type R!
Jamie Cox Finally someone that would pick or already has a BMW and is not a full douche about it.
@@pet3r387 that's a rare sighting isn't it?
@@srancient824 Yeah, most of BMW M3 fanboys are in still in the denial phase, where they think that their car is the best.
@@viccyyboii3308 Iam not in an „phase“. I know why I bought an E36 M3 for TWICE as much as an new Honda Civic Type R. It’s an investment. Used prices are going up like mad of the E36 M3, because it’s so rare. The Honda is just an Asian piece of crap and after three years it’s worth half of the new price. That’s the difference. The E36 M3 is an collectors car.
Listen, from an engineering stand point, BOTH cars are well engineered, but keep in mind the Honda is a 2.0 litre engine; which is quite surprising, going against a i6 BMW.
Jerry Chaz the bmw is 20 years older.
Jerry Chaz 20+ years difference
***** Yeah I get that, however, look at the displacement of the engine, I can't remember off the top of my head, but from a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder Honda; not bad. The Honda is also FWD and the BMW is RWD.
2.0 litre turbo vs a 3.0 litre
Jerry Chaz Honda is turbo also. M3 is not
That was fun to watch. Well done mate!
Thanks Sam.
Thank you for doing more than one lap in each car!
its all about accelerating at the right time & handling nut good show
BIMMAAAAAA!
Honda sucks, just admit it...
Bimma is bae but don't diss Hondas -_-
it wins u ideot
BMW>>>>Honda in styling and sound. But when it comes to engine, transmission and electronics, can't beat Honda.
Levi so who won? Heh, honda. But mostly because its fwd whilst the bmw is rwd
Hey do you wanna mention that one car is 20 years old? And the civic is brand new.
the vast majority of the weight in the back seats are from the back part. not the foam bottom piece...which weighs next to nothing.
But it does weigh something...
It wasn't a serious effort...
+Firebrand obviously.
Euphorica Lol, I like how you reply that to me rather than the other guy xD
You probably have to take out half the interior to remove the backrest part, lol.
"ahhh It is devoting every single corner." lol I laughed hard
Be great to know if you still have the E36 and how it’s going
What kind of question is that? Nothing is better than inline petrol 6 cylinder BMW!
Thats why the civic was faster?
speed isn't everything
But the control was better too?
this particular m3 isn't really meant to perform with new cars either though.
Just take a look at these cars... Listen to their ENGINES...
LMFAO @ people saying it only took Honda 20 years...25 years ago, they unveiled the NSX...Honda has been ahead for a while lol. So far in fact, they've a built a stock daily drivable FWD Civic to beat M3's lol.
The NSX is a completely different class of car...
It's not hard to beat a clapped out bmw... Clio 182 and Meganes rs were doing it just a year or two later.. It's called progress
you might find that an civic type r is the same class car as an m series bmw..... its the beefed up version of the normal car...
and btw, the m3 is also a daily drivable car ;) i got heavily triggerd by your clearly ignorant view of this competition.
snederw How is a hatchback the same class as a Coupe...
I swear Arm chair mechanics legit make me cringe.
Cool challenge!! Thx guys
A 20-year-old car versus a new car! That BMW is fantastic for 20 year old car in fact they are going up in value. Nice Video seems very Real.
I don't see much point in this comparison, since your 20 year-old M3 has a modified suspension. If you had stock suspension, I would find this interesting.
ya a stock 20 yr old suspension. makes sense lol
Euphorica Stock doesn't mean original.
+hartsickdisciple who would waste money buying stock BMW suspension that has limited life to begin with
...more so than quality dampers avaliable today ?
Euphorica That doesn't in any way invalidate my point. It's not just a "20 year-old m3."
Do you really think they've made leaps and bounds in damper technology?? More likely they've pared off weight and cost making it more accurately fail at the expected life.
VTEC just kicked VANOS yo!
lets put a 20 year old ricer civic in the same line up..... we would still be watching it
20 years ago meaning a '96 type R civic with the b16a lol. that would still give the bimmer a good run around a track
haha M3's are above them no contest
Klutch 416 find one that hasent been riced and give it a go...
This is a shitty E36, take a good one and put a proper driver in both: rip Type R.
I really liked the shot of the Civic coming in at the start.
anyone know what type of wheels size/ setup the M3 is running? just got an E46 would like to have a simillar fitment
This is unbelievable. There is 20 years of technical engineering between those two cars and I dont know how many thousands miles of wear. And still the M3 is almost as fast as the new civic type r. Damn you did good BMW.
NSX was a different price league genius. That's like comparing a a base Carrera to an Aventador SV
The M3 and the Civic Type-R are also in different price league man.
Chris Williams Pretty sure the Type R is a dedicated sports car
the M3 probably more money back then then the Civic is now...I like having 2 thens in a row lol
Oil Barrel Actually you can buy the 20 years old M3 for less than the type R.
That Honda might be fast but it's so fugly I wouldn't be seen dead in one.
the spoiler seems out of place
nope. it's not fugly. it's just showy as fuck. it's not something i'd proudly drive to work, but i do like the way it looks. kinda like a hatchback version of a lamborghini. it's a freaking hot hatch, it can get away with looking juvenile.
I know I'm getting old (well, 40 next year) but I like cars that have... class. They don't have to be expensive or super fast though. To me, that M3 looks much better. Clean lines, no fuss. Maybe I simply prefer sleepers.
to me the civic looks better but then gain I'm 17 y/o.... but still if I was working somewhere i'd much rather drive the M3 or more likely a regular 3 or 5 series, A4 or C/E class.
I guess it mostly depends on the designs we got used to seeing while growing up. For me nothing beats the 90s jdm cars in design.
Please car throttle keep making videos like these please really like them
Love your accents, guys!
"civic typaaaa" :D
I'd rather drive the M3 any day
Me to
You can drift an m3 at least
Me too
I had one when I was younger :P
Sold it when it had 270,000kms. Still had heaps of power etc.
Lets see ANY Modern Sports car even remotely get to 200kms and be strong still.
every honda engine went over than 200k, some with 350k km are still strong and doing very good pull.
513 views, wow what am I doing with my life...
Literally 2 minutes after being posted lol
Lawrence Lentini you are not videos like they are 😶
*making videos
***** I don't follow
Sorry, I couldn't edit my original comment. But, you are not making videos like they are is what you are doing with your life.
You're like a Steve Erwin but for cars! I love it mate.
I'm really sorry about Collin, I love BMWs, I'd buy an M3 E46 if I could find one or an M3 E92
Love that E36. I'm sure a better condition M3 would do much better. Love the videos and the facial expressions are epic. Lmao.
No lol. The Civic type R ran a 7:50 around the ring beating the m5,m4, m3 CSL, Lambo lp560, 997 911 turbo, Ferrari 430 etc. Pretty quick for a FWD car.
***** Yeah It is, I mean it's not the fastest car in the world, but for a cheap, everyday car to run those times and keep up with cars like that is pretty cool to see what Honda can do with FWD.
Honda's are great reliable cars, no doubt. But a classic with them body lines is hard to over look. FWD doesn't drive like RWD adding to the fun factor. Civic is next best thing if you can't afford an NSX, but let's not get into that please.
Keep them M3 videos coming!!!! Make them sponsors pay for the fixes and a few other upgrades like brakes!!! Race a Subi, Ford or Chevy next.
Stone Walled Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, everyone likes what they like in that department. FWD can be fun.Get some plastic trays LOL. Dont overlook the s2000! It's a Miata on steroids hahaha
+Sergio66 1989!
That new type R seems to be a fairly solid car. Looks like loads of fun to drive.
If the M3 had APs all round, I wonder how much quicker it would be.
I think that generation of type r's look the best its just so clean looking
That old Bimmer is still beautiful after all these years!
I'll still take the m3 any day.
It feels like that almost everyone here in this comment section wants to praise one car and thrash the other.
Like can't we just appreciate both of them for how good they are.
Also for those saying that they much rather own a 20 year old BMW than a new Type-r... Maybe you like it more but maintaining it is a pain in the ass.
Like....shutup ya damn hippy
I really appreciate your fairness in here by giving the civic another shot after you got into the course - really nice :) And that BMW definetly hold it's own there. Still I have to admit, even being a Honda fan (well - more the Honda of the old days), that BMW has much more style to it. If I had to choose... I would take a Integra Type R (generation one) or Civic SiR (EG6) over both :P ;)
Your show is great!
Nice 5G Cornering M9
You know it m8
Alex Kersten I actually feel honoured that you replied on your personal channel, is this a sign that we have to go on a pizza date?
Well, I do like pizza, but you'll be disappointed to know that this isn't my channel, it is Car Throttle's ;)
Alex Kersten Well regardless of who owns the channel, you are the person that makes it as good as it is. Getting back to the pizza, I will allow you take a doggy bag home to colin.
Slambercity m9
The new Type R is a good car to drive but I would still choose an old M3 insted! RWD is just so much more fun!
cmon Collin u can do it one day!
i hope u will never be ill again ♥
No thanks, I'd still pick the M3
progression = getting bigger and fatter. m3 was a medium sized car. civic is a small car. yet the civic now is bigger than the old m3.
***** i don't believe so, cause the honda jazz is the same size as what the civic was. bmw brought out the 1m because the m3 is as big as the old m5. all the manufacturers just make cars bigger and bigger only to bring out new models that fill the space of the smaller size again.
Bigger car means bigger deformation zone. better safety. a bit the opposite of the theory that the heavier cars are safer. totally wrong, the fact of having a bigger absorber is what makes deceleration more progressive then the curve of the force of impact is more mild and less agressive, then less injury for us.
Fernando Fragoso yes of course. but why make the civic bigger and bigger, only to introduce a jazz which is the same size as the old small civic? in bmw's case, the 1m.
Its to make people happy with their purchase because their new car is bigger and therefore better, when they release a new line they don't have to fool anyone anymore and can go back to as small as possible and slowly increase again.
Huxley Gay, it has nothing to do with safety standards. It's because people who buy these cars keep dreaming about owning the bigger model, 5 series/Accord, so they make the classic cliche "longer, wider, lower" for the all new Civic/3 series so that it appears they're making progress.
Michelin must be paying for sponsorships this week. This is the second video in a row that's specifically called out the Michelin PS Cup 2 tires. And then calling out the Civic is on Michelins also.
I've an atr, boxster and a Vw Phaeton. All are amazing in their own way
If German cars are not know to be reliable, thn how come people are still driving two decade old BMW Ms or Golf GTIs.
nakul singh Lot's of patience and deep pockets 😂
nakul singh heavy ass maintenance. Buy a Toyota, you can practically run it for decades without even thinking about a service.
AKS hahahaha American cars are better😂. You are hitting some hard jokes.... The only thing american car engineers can do is to put big v8s in a car. No new ideas... Just big v8's. I live V8 sound and sure many american cars, but german cars are on another level.
They are known to be reliable. They’re just known to cost a lot when they do break down
AKS Ouh so did you ever had to buy some new parts or an engine for japanese cars? My friend had to buy an engine. Until the engine was here it was 1/2 year and than the engine broke again. He sold and never bought one again.... When you have a problem with german cars you will easy get parts which are more expensive because they are better... And i think that every brand tries to cheat with emissions. So dont cry because germans push their own brands back and Donald Trump dont Cares because: America First...
Wait what? No Drag race?
no point; the m3 would win
the civic type r has a terrible 1/4 mile time of 14 seconds
that's slower than a focus rs
tbh the only thing that makes the civic type r special is it's a fwd and it was amazing on the nurburgring meaning it corners exceptionally well
but rwd is better for a race car in general any day
How well was that BMW kept? Don't cars normally lose power of the years?
most of the lost power can be restored with filter changes, oil changes, spark plugs and wires. you can also use an oil aditive to regain some of the lost compression. but the oil, filter, plugs and leads are about 80% of the powerloss
It's kind of a lemon. There's videos on it on this channel.
+Galf506 you don't even know what a lemon is
It was described as a lemon by its owner. Watch the videos.
+Galf506 oh I've watched them . ever heard the term "clickbate "?
Would love to see what an I30n can do on the same track
For 20 years old it looks sharp. How fun
Roughly how much do you spend on overall maintenance on the M3 per year?
The final video in the series will reveal all. Couple of months from now.
Ok thanks mate.
damn i love type R !!!!!
Who opend the windows of the bmw between the cuts? Gandalf?
Dario Hunkeler They're closed
Estoril Blue is a beautiful colour...!!! 😀👌
honda can make good cars when they wanna. the problem is it's the exception rather than the rule. how bout bring back the S2000 already.
If they revive the S2000 I'd cry.
All of Honda's cars are fantastic, except the CR-Z, I think you mean they don't usually make fun cars.
Yung Bunta Fujiwara they are bringing back the s2000....
bwarden17 holy shit that's news to me I hope they don't take away the legendary S2000 formula like what they did to the NSX. But follow through and actually release the car like that it intended to be like the Honda Beat/S660
when its at the Honda dealer I'll believe it. its been rumored since before they discontinued the the first one. One of the best rear wheel drive vehicles in the world. Should have been the basis for Acuras and better end Hondas. F-ing shame.
Old Sport cars > New Sport cars
NO
@@marcomarkproductions Lol name me one thing new sports do that old ones do not do better.
YTWolf but the Civic Type R is a race car!
Nåti M Downforce, handling, safety in some cases power
No havent you watched the video?
Yes it sure can in fact if you learn your car your parts your computers your driving style options and your determination as well as your learning practices drives turns braking slide angles and tricks then yes indeed.
Do adjustable coilovers affect the stiffness of the suspension only? Or they also adjust the ride height?
Jonathan Jimenez they do both
Can't beat that iconic straight six noise from the old bimmers, sorry Honda.
Steve Sutcliffe managed to lap the Type R faster than the CURRENT M3 (and Audi RS3)..... How?
Yes it may be FWD but it is pretty light, lots of torque, hard as nails suspension, sticky tires and an aggressive diff. It is a very track focused car! As are a lot of modern performance cars. Which one will be more comfortable and entertaining to drive on the road? The M3, by a country mile. More than an hour in the Type R and you'll need physiotherapy afterwards!
soundseeker63 those cars are heavy with lots if power prob can beat a buggati
Im in love with the BMW e36 M3!!
Could yuo race yuor m3 vs the e46 330d?
Before you even started the race, you fudged with the M3's suspension.
You quite likely wrecked the M3's ability to handle.
Nope, raised the height by around 4mm. Handled like a dream!
even the cheapest Chinese coil overs will perform better than original oem suspension at this age and mileage.
Euphorica Suspension and handling is NOT just new parts bolted onto a car. The geometry of all the parts is just as important as the quality of the parts installed.
Minute adjust of all parts greatly changes the handling ability of the car they are bolted to. This means the chumpy at the start of this video most likely wrecked his cars ability to handle. He is NOT an engineer for a race team, he does not know what he's doing in regards to his cars performance, especially when he goes and does something so drastic as radically altering the car's ride height. Raising the car's ride height by as much as 1 millimeter counts as radically altering. Tiny changes in one part greatly affects the abilities of all suspension components as it changes the forces acting upon those components.
As soon as he turned a wrench on the M3's suspension, he voided the lap times the M3 would return. This test is meaningless.
Eks calybur we got a fan boy here
The civic Type R is one underrated car, after the EP3 it looks utter garbage. One of the nastiest looking cars ever.
Mass yea the rear end on this civic is not the best
Plastic civic
u mean overrated
I'd still have the Have the E36 M3 however you need quite deep pockets to keep it well maintained .
Can we just stop and appreciate how clean that m3 is?
both cars are sick cars! i would tske the civic type r over the e36 tho
same
WRXer yep
WRXer check out mine and tell me that!!
WRXer the Honda won't last twenty years
wrong choice bro ;)
the time cant be accurately measured with a manual stopwatch
Impressive result made by M3
If you like the sprint course, do the figure 8 believe me my dad and grandad love the figure 8!!
Honda - Power of Dream! Vtec Kicked in you ;)
Everyone calling the type r a rice car are forgetting that practically every car manufacturer is now making cars with turbos. Japan were early leaders with turbos way back in the 80's with cars like the Cordia turbo, GTR and in Australia the Commodore VL Turbo that used a turbo Nissan engine. Then the 90's the 200SX, Celica GT4, Mitsubishi GTO, Supra, WRX, Evo lancers etc and now Merc are doing the rice thing with their A45 etc. Na is the past turbo is the future.
and who could forget the mighty sierra cosworth from the 80s
Tell me more about Saab and Volvos... turbos since 70s
safety..taking out weight. im sure there lots of factors that could change the results but thanks for letting us see how it goes!
The e36 M3 was my first car. And will be forever one of the best sport car ever.
it's funny because the civic type r demolishes nurburgring and competes with the super cars and some people still gonna say an m3 is better
it is 20 years old.... If you put a 20 year old man in a foot race with your average 40 year old man who would win?
that's the point. it's ridiculous that people are saying the old m3 is better than the civic
HeytoyoubudiV2 People will say that the m3 is better in their opinion, Im pretty sure if you gave them the option to put a modern engine into the M3 they would accept it and then race you but they do not have that choice so they cant actually win but their personal opinion is the M3 is better.
Fantastic car the Civic type R, easy to map to 350-360bhp, just wait for the 2017 Civic type R, even better!
It’s still only a Honda 😂
getting oversteer in an e36 is one of the reoccurring dreams I have along with:
shifting from 3rd to 4th gear lol
That civic type R is UuuuGgglly. Looks like it came from the first Fast and the Furious movie lol. Being next to that beautiful e36 m3 only makes it's styling disaster even more apparent. Love your TH-cam channel though. Cheers.