Fun fact: In one story among the reseachers of Herta space station, a man with a rapier stopped Nanook with his Legion from going back to the past (again, timetravel is a feat no being in Honkai Impact 3rd really capable of except Herrscher of Finality). The battle continue for 7 days and nights, ending with Nanook's loss and leaving him with permanent wounds that even an Aeon like him cannot heal. The man who fought against Nanook and win, through the description in the story, is most likely to be Luocha, Otto's Star Rail counterpart.
@@hoang9082 In Otto case, it creates the same result but using different principle. Otto himself admit (along with Tesla and Einstein) that timetravel is basically impossible. What he does was going outside of the Imaginary Tree and using his power to create new branches from there, so he didn't directly time travel but did something arguably more impressive.
@@victorterra4755 yes, because Otto is a 3 dimensional human rooted in reality, from which no amount of force can affect the time dimension of the tree, while aeons ascended to "aeonhood" which not only gives them higher existence and power but also bounds them to paths Tldr: he did also theorize that if one were to physically access the tree, one could go back in time
@@hoang9082 his False God form isn't, everything else about him is. And even in False God form he still incapable of time travel, like most being in HI3rd Cosmology. Only being directly connect to the Imaginary Tree like the Nihilus (created by the tree) have the time manipulation feats to a minor extend. Only the Herrscher of Finality with their authority over time can confidently perform such feats.
Otto's "false god" state is equivalent to the level of the Aeons as he is directly connected to the imaginary tree which is why he has the ability to manipulate the branches of the imaginary tree. The path he chose was the Kallen path, the Aeon Of Kallen.
@wowchi5660 false god Otto had nigh immortality. The only reason he was defeated was because of the herrscher of void who can cause dimensions to reset for a moment reverting him back to a normal guy.
Manipulate to what degree exactly? On par with Nanook who can destroy the entire universe (img tree) or Lan who doesn't seem to have as much power over the universe
The more time he has to plan. He can find many ways to destroy Nanook. Dude doesn’t even need to do it himself. He can manipulate someone else to do it for him. Plus, simp should be changed to best written character. Otto gives a free point for that. 😂
Narrative quality doesn't mean anything in a fight. But yeah, if our situation is Otto and Nanook just gunning for each other than Otto annihilates. He'll lose a straight fight though, Otto isn't really much of a fighter.
Only way would be to get an aeon to do it for him, most possibly Terminus (aeon of finality) because the outer gods are probably a bit too high up the ladder
@@PA70805 "does not know the universe works" my ass bruh how does them people capable of existing two time in a universe even possible lol unless it is Alternate universe damass
The only reason Nanook hasnt destroyed the HSR universe is because of the Aeon of Equilibrium, HooH. Who would erase him from existence if he ever tried to do it. If The Equilibrium didnt exist all the Aeons would be going crazy. Hi3 doesnt have a being to keep them in check that why Otto was able to pull off what he did
The Equilibrium is just as powerful as any other Aeon. The difference in power between Aeons is very miniscule. Nanook doesnt wanna die, thats why he doesnt fight other Aeons
Aeons can't be "outsmarted" because they're semi sentient. Stop overrating HI3 to such an extent. As stated by Welt himself, the aeons are limited to the primum mobile. You can't expect them to do their battles differently, they'll still follow their own path
So Otto's only option is to somehow convince an aeon to defeat Nanook but considering the fact that aeons only follow their concepts that will be nearly impossible unless he somehow manages to make paths coincide
@@Calvin_M. "Not even that strong"? Aeons can affect the entire universe (img tree) on their own, especially aeons like Terminus, HooH and Nanook (destruction represents the eventual entropy death of the universe). Now unless you prove that Otto can destroy the entire universe's structure you're not going to win the argument
Sometimes when you arrive on the Space Station, you'll overhear a report from the IPC, it's about a Lord Ravager (Eminators of Destruction) who completely tore apart a galaxy called "Tia'Nua". If an Eminator is capable of such severe damage, I think I can confidently say that Nanook is more than capable of destroying the universe. In fact that's his goal as the Aeon of Desctruction.
Another note, in many realities, Otto failed and died in front of the Imaginary Tree. Our Otto simply bested the odds through sheer willpower, so what he did isn't really worth writing home about in terms of power or authority, especially considering how he's a human, and Nanook is an Aeon (higher plane being).
@@KurouShiro6000 destroying a galaxy is actually a pretty small feat in Honkai lol, in GGZ during the fight between Kiana&Mei vs Coordinator of will, they accidentally destroyed a couple universes
Ah Otto for his wife he achieved levels on par with honkai gods and he did it by himself.....otto is a goat if only for that batman/tony level intelligence
Universe = tree of existence = IMG tree > nanook is heat point and the entropy of the tree and pretty will destroy it at the end. Otto can manipulate the tree tho he can’t destroy it. Winner is pretty clear.
They are LITERALLY IN THE SAME VERSE (HI3rd and HSR is in the same Imaginary Tree), Otto is strong, no doubt in that but saying him "solos the verse" is a hard asspull.
@@victorterra4755 it's because of cosmology hi3's main universe has been shown to have infinite dimensions and otto created a new world from the past of the main universe in other words, he created a universe with infinite dimensions
@@victorterra4755 Currently there is no aeon that has the ability to create new branches on an imaginary tree like otto and currently there is no information that can take the star rail universe to infinity D
@@hoang9082 Oh, not that, I mean because HSR and HI3rd technically exist within the same Multiversal (arguably Hyperversal) Cosmology (The Imaginary Tree), saying Otto solos the verse would mean he would have to solos the HI3rd (not to mention GGZ) Cosmology too, and we all know there are bigger fishes than him in that sea.
I doubt it's negative. Low probably, but not negative. People tend to hype up Nanook, but he's not actually all that strong as Aeons go. The problem for Otto would be IX. Just beholding IX can be really dangerous to sentient thought, and the smarter they are the worse it gets. For someone as curious and intelligent as Otto to stare down the Path of Nihility would be absolutely devastating to their mental state. He'd basically lose all will to live. That being said, he could probably find a workaround.
You are a pro Otto simp 😂 Though let me remind you that HSR might take place in a much larger setting than HI3 so we might see alot of crazy powerful characters also we still don't know the aeons power potential
@@Kiana_Kaslana_ the reason I used "might" is because we are not Hoyoverse officials or inside leakers we are players so we don't know what the Devs want to do with the story and the game but at least from what we can see so far it seems it probably will go in that direction
@@adriantepes4355Otto Apocalypse (Simp-Sama Form) following the Path of Kallen being Blessed by the Aeon of Kallen would Easily Destroy half the Universe and Win (Trust)
@@newohrel Otto couldn't even destroy more than two worlds together. He simply created a new timeline i.e. A new world. Do you even realize how low level that is compared to the feats of destruction shown by Tazzyronth?
@@adriantepes4355 Valid Argument, However. Too much of the past for one to memorize Too many words remained for one to read through the lines The ebb and flow of the crowd, floods the world and paradise Along the path of time Every night brings a dream, but the day relentlessly keeps me awake All the rest will be torn up whenever a choice is made Every living soul in the fray, striving for their own safe place Life is too long to end at grave Just a drop of water suffices Encompassed, and swallowed through space by the universe Back to the source Gone are those years living for a reason Here it comes, the moment of the scene of lost and found Personas played out on the stage Will return to the self when there's a curtain call Every night brings a dream, but the day relentlessly keeps me awake All the rest will be torn up whenever a choice is made Everyone has their own desire leading to the ultimate Life is too long to end at a grave Just a drop of water suffices Still, I wish to embrace the world with my thoughts A eulogy. Time to leave where I have stood so long Letting you go recover traces overlapped Ends, then begins. *"Thus Spoke, Apocalypse."* (on a serious note Mihoyo is *known* for picking favorites, If this battle we're to ever happen officially, who do you think they'll write to win?)
Galaxy level? HooH literally fused with the universe and Nanook's path is about the destruction of the universe. Next up, Lan, Oroboros and Tazzyronth have all destroyed several worlds single handedly. What more do you need to know that aeons stomp over HI3?
Precisely that part. The "path", HooH is free of suspicion stuff. Nanook however has yet reach that level, proven by the fact that he has yet destroyed the Universe. As for " world" part, assuming its "planetary" its not enough to stomp hi3rd yet HoFi still carries on that part
@@minetfq739 the reason why Nanook hasn't destroyed the universe yet is because his concept is the entropy death. Entropy death doesn't come suddenly, it takes time and eventually destroys the universe and everything within itself. Please, do your research first
@@minetfq739 also "worlds" aren't planets. Worlds are 4D structures. Had you done your research, had you read the databank you wouldn't have made such foolish claims
Just a side note: The imaginary tree is only the universe. There are no "parallel universes" within the tree and it contains "worlds". Now worlds can be a small planet, a solar system or even a galaxy. But none of those in the CN are stated to be a universe at all
So false god Otto didn't create a new universe for Kallen. He only created a new path, a new world for her. Nanook on the other hand represents the entropy death of the entire universe.
Most High Tiers in Honkai 3rd outclass the Aeons by a mile. False God Otto is still arguably the strongest character from HI3, transcending the multiverse, and was immortal for a short duration. Aeons are strong, and will probably get stronger, but Honkai 3rd is too busted on the higher end just like GGZ lol I think, and don’t quote me on this, but iirc from the last time I scaled him, Otto was Outerversal along with Kevin, Bronya, and Kiana. But he still edged out slightly above them still. I know they’re all at least Hyperversal, but there was some stuff in Project Stigma chapter that pushed them to Outerversal. I can go find it if you want. Might take me a while tho
Nanook WIn In the world view of Honkai, wouldn't the star system become a World Thus, the Aeon and his messengers, who can move freely between star systems, will be able to intervene in parallel worlds. Also, looking at the depiction in the story, I don't think it's overrated. Below is an explanation of the Aeon that is considered to be large scale ↓ - According to Welt, there is a possibility of ``turning the universe upside down'' (though he won't do that because he is bound by fate). - The Aeon 's explanation states that it has the power to destroy reality and imagine the world. ・Tidurus, one of the Aeon, ``had a great influence on two-thirds of the areas where life exists in the universe.'' In the worldview of the Honkai series, isn't there actually more than one universe? gakuen Verse, 3rd Verse, Starrail Verse, Genshin Verse is one of the star systems (worlds) within the imaginary tree (universe), and is commonly referred to as a parallel world. I think this is the cosmic theory of the Collapse series. There is an explanation that there is a wall between star systems in imaginary space, but star gods and messengers who can manipulate imaginary energy can break through that wall and travel between star systems. In summary, ``Aeon s can freely travel between star systems (parallel worlds) within the imaginary tree (universe), so they can interfere in parallel worlds.'' \ Also, the existence of StarRail Welt Yang proves that there are no multiple universes. This is because Welt hometown, 3rd Verse (Solar System), is said to be a remote area, far from the Starrail civilization. It is not said that they came from another universe, and all Hoyoverse works including 3rd Verse probably exist within the same universe (Imaginary Number Tree). So, as I mentioned in the previous reply, Aeon will be able to interfere with all Universes due to the settings. By the way, this is not my theory but my friend's theory.Please refute this. Just a side note: The imaginary tree is only the universe. There are no "parallel universes" within the tree and it contains "worlds". Now worlds can be a small planet, a solar system or even a galaxy. But none of those in the CN are stated to be a universe at all So false god Otto didn't create a new universe for Kallen. He only created a new path, a new world for her. Nanook on the other hand represents the entropy death of the entire universe. Otto's explanation also refers to the branches of the imaginary number tree as a civilization, not the universe .Otto's explanation also refers to the branches of the imaginary number tree as a civilization, not the universe. Also, the Sea of Quantam is not a another universe. I predict that this is a civilization that was destroyed by the Honkai or something. It's also called a Quantum Bubble/World Bubble. Again, there's no mention of the Universe, and I know it was a translation error when it was called Universe before.
Just a question to you. If Welt travelled to another universe, how did he say "Herta helped me send a signal back to my homeworld to tell them that I'm fine.." That either means Welt is from another star system like the replier above said. Or There is technology that contact parallel branches.
@@thkgaming5587 Bro doesn't known the concept of send signals across universes 😂 Even the people of HI3 universe like grey snake can send signals to Kevin in the middle of the sea of quanta,but,good false equivalence fallacy
@@Engel8332 I think dimensions, Powerscaling is shitty in general already, powerscaling in Mihoyo verse make no sense is.........actually understandable, for a dev who consistently retcon their own writing, powerscaling will make no sense
Hyperion Captain/ferryman vs ? I know he not Canon,just curious how strong he is because he can create ship, wield multiply divine key and live inside sea of Quanta for don't know how long that even Durandal only can traveling sea of Quanta for 3 minutes. He even reset the timeline over 10 million time to save kongmin.
At a minimum, Otto Apocalypse (HI3) is stronger than the Zeus (GGZ) whose already absorbed every god of concept except Thanatos. At the high end, we don't really know but he did transcend reality altogether. Nanook doesn't stand a chance.
HAHAHAHAH,otto has at best a fraction of the power of the imaginary tree and zeus fight with a elder god created the imaginary tree Zeus>>>imaginary tree>>>otto false God GGZ cosmology>>>actual HI3 cosmology
@@hoang9082 Thanatos>>>Zeus>>>imaginary tree>>>otto LMAO That Zeus is weaker than thanatos doesn't mean that otto is even near of his level,that literally a fallacy
@@Engel8332 otto's best feat is just creating a real universe on the imaginary tree, it is nothing compared to zeus because it was zeus’ death that created the imaginary tree
LMAO! Falso God Otto was too much. If it weren't for the dimension powers of the HoV and how the plane of existence works then Otto completely solos. This fucker fooled god and scared a divine key.
@@dadian803yeah but Nanook literally has infinite power over the Branch of the Immaginary that is destruction, stated by welt, so if he has infinite power over destruction it’s kinda unfair
Nanook still win against Otto tbh cuz Otto are only a false while Nanook on other hand are a god basically similar with other godlike individual in hoyoverse like outer god and Cocoon of Finality
Nanook caps at 4d/5d (for now) and Otto was capable of affecting the whole imaginary tree which is at least a א2 structure. Also the title god doesn't scale anywhere and the outer gods and the cocoon of finality would one shot nanook.
@Kiana_Kaslana_ lol Otto didn't even have a "Godhead" that while he are just a false god while Nanook on other hand are a god which mean he already have "Godhead" and a creature still haven't acsend from physical space like Otto are no match for Nanook
@@dattrong8698 The title "God" scales literally nowhere. So your argument is Invalid. Also Otto did trancend the physical space when he absorb the false God authority which was given by the Will of Honkai.
WoH has no feats, it's just a consciousness that connected to cocoon HotE doesn't exist in honkai, it's still HoFi Mei HoO is over og HoFi too HoTr isn't that strong, she's just haxy, physically she's likely below elyisa, senti, hua and durandal Equinox>dea anchora Technically speaking, FP Otto would be higher on this list, but when he was beat up he was nerfed, so about og HoFi level
@@user-qx1id1dt8xWho said HoTE doesn't exist in Honkai? Well, HoTE is not existed in the game but she does exist in Honkai Impact manga. She is the previous era final Herrscher which destroyed all the flamechasers and manipulated the time. You even can see her as a big statue at the moon in "The Moon's Origin and Finality" open world map.
@@Salteryn In terms of magic, how's Nanook not much more powerful? Technically if it's regarding destruction of anything within the tree he will be able to destroy it anytime
![[Honkai] Honkai Star Rail vs Prime Welt Yang | Honkai Impact 3rd](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Wp-K_WkTI-Q/mqdefault.jpg)
Fun fact: In one story among the reseachers of Herta space station, a man with a rapier stopped Nanook with his Legion from going back to the past (again, timetravel is a feat no being in Honkai Impact 3rd really capable of except Herrscher of Finality). The battle continue for 7 days and nights, ending with Nanook's loss and leaving him with permanent wounds that even an Aeon like him cannot heal. The man who fought against Nanook and win, through the description in the story, is most likely to be Luocha, Otto's Star Rail counterpart.
otto created a new timeline on the fantasy tree
Do you need to turn back time when you can create one yourself???
@@hoang9082 In Otto case, it creates the same result but using different principle. Otto himself admit (along with Tesla and Einstein) that timetravel is basically impossible. What he does was going outside of the Imaginary Tree and using his power to create new branches from there, so he didn't directly time travel but did something arguably more impressive.
@@victorterra4755 yes, because Otto is a 3 dimensional human rooted in reality, from which no amount of force can affect the time dimension of the tree, while aeons ascended to "aeonhood" which not only gives them higher existence and power but also bounds them to paths
Tldr: he did also theorize that if one were to physically access the tree, one could go back in time
@@user-qx1id1dt8x honkai's real universe friend has been proven to have infinite dimensions
so he's not a 3D creature
@@hoang9082 his False God form isn't, everything else about him is. And even in False God form he still incapable of time travel, like most being in HI3rd Cosmology. Only being directly connect to the Imaginary Tree like the Nihilus (created by the tree) have the time manipulation feats to a minor extend. Only the Herrscher of Finality with their authority over time can confidently perform such feats.
Otto's "false god" state is equivalent to the level of the Aeons as he is directly connected to the imaginary tree which is why he has the ability to manipulate the branches of the imaginary tree. The path he chose was the Kallen path, the Aeon Of Kallen.
equivalent to aeon level ....what?
@wowchi5660 false god Otto had nigh immortality. The only reason he was defeated was because of the herrscher of void who can cause dimensions to reset for a moment reverting him back to a normal guy.
@@wowchi5660correct statement would be "above"
Manipulate to what degree exactly? On par with Nanook who can destroy the entire universe (img tree) or Lan who doesn't seem to have as much power over the universe
@@adriantepes4355 above both and nanook cannot destroy the imaginary tree, a 4d being isnt destroying a 11d+ lowballed construct
The more time he has to plan. He can find many ways to destroy Nanook. Dude doesn’t even need to do it himself. He can manipulate someone else to do it for him.
Plus, simp should be changed to best written character. Otto gives a free point for that. 😂
Narrative quality doesn't mean anything in a fight. But yeah, if our situation is Otto and Nanook just gunning for each other than Otto annihilates. He'll lose a straight fight though, Otto isn't really much of a fighter.
@@Eedden42Yeah, he's more of a schemer. But if he gets even a few days to plan, he'll be able to squash Nanook.
Only way would be to get an aeon to do it for him, most possibly Terminus (aeon of finality) because the outer gods are probably a bit too high up the ladder
Outergods are massive highball for otto since outer gods are not bpund to the imaginary tree@@adriantepes4355
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Otto is the best antagonist
The fact no one can kill otto, because otto kill himself for save kallen
Otto did get killed, he just cheated death with his soul for a few moments
Otto the goat🐐
Otto solos beyond concept of Diff+verse
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When basically you don’t know that HI3rd is one of the many world of hsr lmao and the universe is the tree.
@@PA70805 tf you on lol Imaginary tree holds the universe including HI3 and HSR and these two are different universes😂😂
@@Mestaroth1 uhhmmm nah I don’t you know how works the universe of honkai
@@PA70805 "does not know the universe works" my ass bruh how does them people capable of existing two time in a universe even possible lol unless it is Alternate universe damass
Nanook is featless foddrr
HI3 Cosmology> HSR Cosmology.
And Aeon max feat is Universe.
While Otto created new timeline, rewriting Imagine Tree.
Hi3 cosmology = HSR cosmology. IMG tree itself is a single universe
And Hi3 cosmology = GGZ cosmology because according to Jin Wenyi Hi3 world deviated from the GGZ world
@@adriantepes4355 you statement still useless
@@Hinoshu_Suzuki prove it or stfu
@@adriantepes4355You still mad lil kid go cry rn
This is what I've been waiting for for a month now
The only reason Nanook hasnt destroyed the HSR universe is because of the Aeon of Equilibrium, HooH. Who would erase him from existence if he ever tried to do it. If The Equilibrium didnt exist all the Aeons would be going crazy. Hi3 doesnt have a being to keep them in check that why Otto was able to pull off what he did
Wait I thought both HSR and HI3 are on the same universe??
@angeloganapin7517 they are. They're just in difference 'reality' you could say.
The Equilibrium is just as powerful as any other Aeon. The difference in power between Aeons is very miniscule.
Nanook doesnt wanna die, thats why he doesnt fight other Aeons
@@wallnut7624 . HSR takes place across multiple realities/worlds. HI3 is bound to a single world.
Is that what you meant?
Then why doesn't he kill HooH(don't tpexplain why I don't wanna know shit)
Otto could like change the branch to make a world where the swarm disaster does not exist, removing the cause of Nanook's ascension, could he not?
Even tho Nanook is ahead in power, Otto is just a genius. The only man that outsmarted the God, and will find the way to crash even Aeons themselves.
Aeons can't be "outsmarted" because they're semi sentient. Stop overrating HI3 to such an extent. As stated by Welt himself, the aeons are limited to the primum mobile. You can't expect them to do their battles differently, they'll still follow their own path
So Otto's only option is to somehow convince an aeon to defeat Nanook but considering the fact that aeons only follow their concepts that will be nearly impossible unless he somehow manages to make paths coincide
@@adriantepes4355 well then he will definitely clap Aeons. I forgot they aren't even that strong of beings in honkaiverse.
@@Calvin_M. "Not even that strong"? Aeons can affect the entire universe (img tree) on their own, especially aeons like Terminus, HooH and Nanook (destruction represents the eventual entropy death of the universe). Now unless you prove that Otto can destroy the entire universe's structure you're not going to win the argument
The only beings I truly find more powerful are outer gods since those beings affect things beyond the tree itself
Nanook can't even destroy a single universe lmao, Otto created thousands of new universes for a girl
Sometimes when you arrive on the Space Station, you'll overhear a report from the IPC, it's about a Lord Ravager (Eminators of Destruction) who completely tore apart a galaxy called "Tia'Nua".
If an Eminator is capable of such severe damage, I think I can confidently say that Nanook is more than capable of destroying the universe. In fact that's his goal as the Aeon of Desctruction.
Another note, in many realities, Otto failed and died in front of the Imaginary Tree.
Our Otto simply bested the odds through sheer willpower, so what he did isn't really worth writing home about in terms of power or authority, especially considering how he's a human, and Nanook is an Aeon (higher plane being).
@KurouShiro6000 well destroying a galaxy doesn't mean he has the power to actually destroy a universe
@@KurouShiro6000 destroying a galaxy is actually a pretty small feat in Honkai lol, in GGZ during the fight between Kiana&Mei vs Coordinator of will, they accidentally destroyed a couple universes
@@Riimaachan Bro GGZ is incomparable, we're currently talking about who has more authority (Otto v Nanook)
I like Villen like Otto he had a goal that he work on for 500 year and he didn't care if he destroy or save the world in process.
Ah Otto for his wife he achieved levels on par with honkai gods and he did it by himself.....otto is a goat if only for that batman/tony level intelligence
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Finally new shorts
I been waiting for so long now my back hurt like h-ll
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Pink hot jesus vs. Main jarilo 6 trio
bro won for being a simp
W Otto the best, he is the Aeon of Simps and the Follower of Kallenism
W salter chan
Since when does nanook have these feats? People dck riding Nanook so much that they are pulling stats out of mid air lol.
W bro🔥🔥🔥
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Otto also became Murphy Lawden
Not even GGZ outer gods can be Murphy. He's way too strong for the hoyoverse. Wanna know what Murphy can really do?
@@adriantepes4355is he from SCP ?
@@kabilan4444 yes.
Actually a good Vs for once, nice.
Universe = tree of existence = IMG tree > nanook is heat point and the entropy of the tree and pretty will destroy it at the end.
Otto can manipulate the tree tho he can’t destroy it.
Winner is pretty clear.
Otto base lose neg diff , Otto herrsher form lose no diff , Otto touch imaginary tree win no diff
Fun fact: Nanook is the youngest of the Aeons
But hes still like 10000+ish years old
@@XuanBachTrinh-of3pbpoint just being he's featless unlike Otto that's literally fought armies and gods solo
W, otto solos the verse
They are LITERALLY IN THE SAME VERSE (HI3rd and HSR is in the same Imaginary Tree), Otto is strong, no doubt in that but saying him "solos the verse" is a hard asspull.
@@victorterra4755
it's because of cosmology
hi3's main universe has been shown to have infinite dimensions
and otto created a new world from the past of the main universe
in other words, he created a universe with infinite dimensions
@@victorterra4755 Currently there is no aeon that has the ability to create new branches on an imaginary tree like otto
and currently there is no information that can take the star rail universe to infinity D
@@hoang9082 Oh, not that, I mean because HSR and HI3rd technically exist within the same Multiversal (arguably Hyperversal) Cosmology (The Imaginary Tree), saying Otto solos the verse would mean he would have to solos the HI3rd (not to mention GGZ) Cosmology too, and we all know there are bigger fishes than him in that sea.
@@victorterra4755 oh my fault i misunderstood you
Meanwhile otto that was a god for a short time and could withstand flame herrscher and true stigma kiana kaslana (durandal) 😂😂😂
Otto>>>>>>>star rail verse negative diff
R u stupid ?
I doubt it's negative. Low probably, but not negative. People tend to hype up Nanook, but he's not actually all that strong as Aeons go. The problem for Otto would be IX. Just beholding IX can be really dangerous to sentient thought, and the smarter they are the worse it gets. For someone as curious and intelligent as Otto to stare down the Path of Nihility would be absolutely devastating to their mental state. He'd basically lose all will to live. That being said, he could probably find a workaround.
@@Eedden42 false god otto negs the verse, he exist in a higher dimensional plane of existence compared to the aeons
Otto negs diff whole Star rail verse with one finger
You are a pro Otto simp 😂
Though let me remind you that HSR might take place in a much larger setting than HI3 so we might see alot of crazy powerful characters also we still don't know the aeons power potential
@@greenbeast522"might"
@@Kiana_Kaslana_ the reason I used "might" is because we are not Hoyoverse officials or inside leakers we are players so we don't know what the Devs want to do with the story and the game but at least from what we can see so far it seems it probably will go in that direction
@@greenbeast522ok aeon simp
@@greenbeast522bro forgot false god otto... Bro literally manipulated the imaginary tree which all the aeons does not have the permission to do that.
Otto negs diff HSR
Oh sure. Let Otto destroy half of the universe first then we'll talk
@@adriantepes4355Otto Apocalypse (Simp-Sama Form) following the Path of Kallen being Blessed by the Aeon of Kallen would Easily Destroy half the Universe and Win (Trust)
@@newohrel Otto couldn't even destroy more than two worlds together. He simply created a new timeline i.e. A new world. Do you even realize how low level that is compared to the feats of destruction shown by Tazzyronth?
Otto can't even destroy one quarter of the universe let alone half
@@adriantepes4355 Valid Argument, However.
Too much of the past for one to memorize
Too many words remained for one to read through the lines
The ebb and flow of the crowd, floods the world and paradise
Along the path of time
Every night brings a dream, but the day relentlessly keeps me awake
All the rest will be torn up whenever a choice is made
Every living soul in the fray, striving for their own safe place
Life is too long to end at grave
Just a drop of water suffices
Encompassed, and swallowed through space by the universe
Back to the source
Gone are those years living for a reason
Here it comes, the moment of the scene of lost and found
Personas played out on the stage
Will return to the self when there's a curtain call
Every night brings a dream, but the day relentlessly keeps me awake
All the rest will be torn up whenever a choice is made
Everyone has their own desire leading to the ultimate
Life is too long to end at a grave
Just a drop of water suffices
Still, I wish to embrace the world with my thoughts
A eulogy.
Time to leave where I have stood so long
Letting you go recover traces overlapped
Ends, then begins.
*"Thus Spoke, Apocalypse."*
(on a serious note Mihoyo is *known* for picking favorites, If this battle we're to ever happen officially, who do you think they'll write to win?)
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Ngl I feel like we need more aeon feats/world building due to not enough info on their strength besides vague galaxy level feats
Galaxy level? HooH literally fused with the universe and Nanook's path is about the destruction of the universe. Next up, Lan, Oroboros and Tazzyronth have all destroyed several worlds single handedly. What more do you need to know that aeons stomp over HI3?
Precisely that part. The "path", HooH is free of suspicion stuff. Nanook however has yet reach that level, proven by the fact that he has yet destroyed the Universe. As for " world" part, assuming its "planetary" its not enough to stomp hi3rd yet HoFi still carries on that part
@@minetfq739 the reason why Nanook hasn't destroyed the universe yet is because his concept is the entropy death. Entropy death doesn't come suddenly, it takes time and eventually destroys the universe and everything within itself. Please, do your research first
@@minetfq739 also "worlds" aren't planets. Worlds are 4D structures. Had you done your research, had you read the databank you wouldn't have made such foolish claims
@@adriantepes4355 angry much? I don't really have to do those thing since you're telling me them right now. I'm just stating what I know
femirins vs ai chan
Pfff otto would destroy nanok🤣
Pfft Nanook slams HI3
Feel free to argue if you want to
Just a side note: The imaginary tree is only the universe. There are no "parallel universes" within the tree and it contains "worlds". Now worlds can be a small planet, a solar system or even a galaxy. But none of those in the CN are stated to be a universe at all
So false god Otto didn't create a new universe for Kallen. He only created a new path, a new world for her. Nanook on the other hand represents the entropy death of the entire universe.
@@adriantepes4355 🤣
Nonook weaker than Otto. Otto cheats imaginary tree
So does every other aeon. Y'all HI3 wankers overrate img tree a bit too much
Otto base lose neg diff , Otto herrsher form lose no diff , Otto touch imaginary tree win no diff
Otto no diff
Belum juga nanook muncul
Most High Tiers in Honkai 3rd outclass the Aeons by a mile. False God Otto is still arguably the strongest character from HI3, transcending the multiverse, and was immortal for a short duration. Aeons are strong, and will probably get stronger, but Honkai 3rd is too busted on the higher end just like GGZ lol
I think, and don’t quote me on this, but iirc from the last time I scaled him, Otto was Outerversal along with Kevin, Bronya, and Kiana. But he still edged out slightly above them still. I know they’re all at least Hyperversal, but there was some stuff in Project Stigma chapter that pushed them to Outerversal. I can go find it if you want. Might take me a while tho
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In the world view of Honkai, wouldn't the star system become a World
Thus, the Aeon and his messengers, who can move freely between star systems, will be able to intervene in parallel worlds.
Also, looking at the depiction in the story, I don't think it's overrated.
Below is an explanation of the Aeon that is considered to be large scale ↓
- According to Welt, there is a possibility of ``turning the universe upside down'' (though he won't do that because he is bound by fate).
- The Aeon 's explanation states that it has the power to destroy reality and imagine the world.
・Tidurus, one of the Aeon, ``had a great influence on two-thirds of the areas where life exists in the universe.''
In the worldview of the Honkai series, isn't there actually more than one universe?
gakuen Verse, 3rd Verse, Starrail Verse, Genshin Verse is one of the star systems (worlds) within the imaginary tree (universe), and is commonly referred to as a parallel world. I think this is the cosmic theory of the Collapse series.
There is an explanation that there is a wall between star systems in imaginary space, but star gods and messengers who can manipulate imaginary energy can break through that wall and travel between star systems.
In summary, ``Aeon s can freely travel between star systems (parallel worlds) within the imaginary tree (universe), so they can interfere in parallel worlds.''
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Also, the existence of StarRail Welt Yang proves that there are no multiple universes.
This is because Welt hometown, 3rd Verse (Solar System), is said to be a remote area, far from the Starrail civilization. It is not said that they came from another universe, and all Hoyoverse works including 3rd Verse probably exist within the same universe (Imaginary Number Tree).
So, as I mentioned in the previous reply, Aeon will be able to interfere with all Universes due to the settings.
By the way, this is not my theory but my friend's theory.Please refute this.
Just a side note: The imaginary tree is only the universe. There are no "parallel universes" within the tree and it contains "worlds". Now worlds can be a small planet, a solar system or even a galaxy. But none of those in the CN are stated to be a universe at all
So false god Otto didn't create a new universe for Kallen. He only created a new path, a new world for her. Nanook on the other hand represents the entropy death of the entire universe. Otto's explanation also refers to the branches of the imaginary number tree as a civilization, not the universe
.Otto's explanation also refers to the branches of the imaginary number tree as a civilization, not the universe.
Also, the Sea of Quantam is not a another universe. I predict that this is a civilization that was destroyed by the Honkai or something. It's also called a Quantum Bubble/World Bubble. Again, there's no mention of the Universe, and I know it was a translation error when it was called Universe before.
Just a question to you. If Welt travelled to another universe, how did he say "Herta helped me send a signal back to my homeworld to tell them that I'm fine.."
That either means Welt is from another star system like the replier above said. Or There is technology that contact parallel branches.
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Still he created a structure with infinite dimensions,that was not a miss-translation LMAO
And Aeons doesn't get past galaxy by that
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Bro doesn't known the concept of send signals across universes 😂
Even the people of HI3 universe like grey snake can send signals to Kevin in the middle of the sea of quanta,but,good false equivalence fallacy
@@Engel8332 I think dimensions, Powerscaling is shitty in general already, powerscaling in Mihoyo verse make no sense is.........actually understandable, for a dev who consistently retcon their own writing, powerscaling will make no sense
W + Both are Kallen victims.
fr fr :sob: if kallen didnt die, she'd prolly have the strongest Harem with Otto on it.@@Salteryn
Hyperion Captain/ferryman vs ?
I know he not Canon,just curious how strong he is because he can create ship, wield multiply divine key and live inside sea of Quanta for don't know how long that even Durandal only can traveling sea of Quanta for 3 minutes.
He even reset the timeline over 10 million time to save kongmin.
Maybe ggz herrshcer of the end/God Kiana?
He is canon,lmao
Read the chapter of the moon,the captain appears as a High dimensional being that likes to see the history of kiana
Captain-verse is canon and connected to main story, but they won't disturb the storyline directly.
Captain verse became canon after "The Moons Origin and Finality" chapter.
@@HerrscherofTuna1 That is false. Captain from captain verse and in the main canon are different.
At a minimum, Otto Apocalypse (HI3) is stronger than the Zeus (GGZ) whose already absorbed every god of concept except Thanatos. At the high end, we don't really know but he did transcend reality altogether. Nanook doesn't stand a chance.
HAHAHAHAH,otto has at best a fraction of the power of the imaginary tree and zeus fight with a elder god created the imaginary tree
Zeus>>>imaginary tree>>>otto false God
GGZ cosmology>>>actual HI3 cosmology
@@Engel8332 thanatos one shot zeus :)))
@@hoang9082
Thanatos>>>Zeus>>>imaginary tree>>>otto LMAO
That Zeus is weaker than thanatos doesn't mean that otto is even near of his level,that literally a fallacy
@@Engel8332 I'm kidding you and I never said that otto is stronger than zeus
@@Engel8332 otto's best feat is just creating a real universe on the imaginary tree, it is nothing compared to zeus because it was zeus’ death that created the imaginary tree
Nanook no diff Otto, Aeons are too powerful
Bruh💀
LMAO! Falso God Otto was too much. If it weren't for the dimension powers of the HoV and how the plane of existence works then Otto completely solos. This fucker fooled god and scared a divine key.
@@dadian803yeah but Nanook literally has infinite power over the Branch of the Immaginary that is destruction, stated by welt, so if he has infinite power over destruction it’s kinda unfair
Nanook got his as* wiped by Expy Otto= Luocha 😂
Kyushou vs mei god kill
follow everyone will win
Nanook still win against Otto tbh cuz Otto are only a false while Nanook on other hand are a god basically similar with other godlike individual in hoyoverse like outer god and Cocoon of Finality
Nanook caps at 4d/5d (for now) and Otto was capable of affecting the whole imaginary tree which is at least a א2 structure. Also the title god doesn't scale anywhere and the outer gods and the cocoon of finality would one shot nanook.
@Kiana_Kaslana_ lol Otto didn't even have a "Godhead" that while he are just a false god while Nanook on other hand are a god which mean he already have "Godhead" and a creature still haven't acsend from physical space like Otto are no match for Nanook
@Kiana_Kaslana_ CoF concept are still much smaller that an Aeon,if CoF try to interact with an Aeon,CoF concept will end up being absorb by Aeon
@Kiana_Kaslana_ and don't try to bring Kiana being 11d bro,that got CN community debunk long ago
@@dattrong8698 The title "God" scales literally nowhere. So your argument is Invalid. Also Otto did trancend the physical space when he absorb the false God authority which was given by the Will of Honkai.
Simps>>>>>>>
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Труп или эон? Думаю ответ очевиден
yes otto wins ❤❤
Otto gaps
How strong is nanook?
Otto false god 🐸👍
Can you do
world of darkness vs ggz
Cn SCP verse vs ggz
Suggs verse vs ggz
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
SCP-3812 is high narrative level. Saying it negative-diffs all of GGZ is a massive understatement.
@@IAMDEMIURGE EN SCP-682 negs, let alone WOD and CN SCP verse.
Can you make ggz or honkai vs re:zero ?
After all, how much do you hate re:zero😂😂😂
I'm just curious
Lol
Top HI3:
1. True form Captain
2. HoFi
3. WoH
4. Kevin
5. HoTE
6. HoO
7. HoTr
8. Fu Hua (Garuda Form)
9. HoH & Dea Anchora
10. False God Otto
Bye😂😂😂
WoH has no feats, it's just a consciousness that connected to cocoon
HotE doesn't exist in honkai, it's still HoFi
Mei HoO is over og HoFi too
HoTr isn't that strong, she's just haxy, physically she's likely below elyisa, senti, hua and durandal
Equinox>dea anchora
Technically speaking, FP Otto would be higher on this list, but when he was beat up he was nerfed, so about og HoFi level
@@user-qx1id1dt8xI think he/she mean HoTE is the previous era Final Herrscher and HoFi is mean Kiana
And both Hofi and HoO are HoTE victims.
@@user-qx1id1dt8x?
@@user-qx1id1dt8xWho said HoTE doesn't exist in Honkai? Well, HoTE is not existed in the game but she does exist in Honkai Impact manga. She is the previous era final Herrscher which destroyed all the flamechasers and manipulated the time. You even can see her as a big statue at the moon in "The Moon's Origin and Finality" open world map.
@@HerrscherofTuna1Manhua not manga.
???? Hax, ap wtf
@@Salteryn In terms of magic, how's Nanook not much more powerful? Technically if it's regarding destruction of anything within the tree he will be able to destroy it anytime
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