Customer States Belt Pulley Noise
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- Customer states serpentine belt tensioner pulley is making noise. We need to quiet this customer's loud fan belt tensioner pulley. It's a simple trick to grease idler pulleys. Don't buy a new idler pulley for your car it's a waste of money. This mechanic trick saves you money! SUPPLIES BELOW ↓↓↓↓
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You could spray them out with brake clean but you are right a lil grease you’ll save yourself a shit load of time and hassle.
If it's your own go for it don't screw up the seal but a customer's. They get a knew one not my liability.. however my liberty 2.8 the fan bracket bearing was dry not doing to good one one super expensive.... but I figured out how to put a grease zerk in it now it gets a pump of grease when getting serviced
This seems, to me anyway, to be adding to list of unnecessary maintenance chores to delay the inevitable. A sealed bearing is not supposed to dry out if it's good working order. If the seal loses its ability to keep lube in and dirt out it is no longer in good working order and should be replaced. The less there is to service the shorter those regularly scheduled maintenance sessions will last. Remember your time and effort are a cost just as important as a parts cost. Would you really be saving any money by servicing a non serviceable part by design, when it could have been replaced the first time and ignored until or if it fails again.
Dude idler pulleys are like 10$
No. swap the bearing
I can see pressing the bearing out if it's a really new pulley that just happens to be noisy, but come on man the fucking pulley is like 12 bucks with a bearing. Doing shit like this is going to run customers off.
I had to replace the idler pulley on the supercharger belt system of my Buick, that little ass pulley I had to buy was $73 friggin bucks. Just the pulley
@@danielfinney4295 it was for a supercharger so of course it's going to be expensive.
And the fact once the seal is taken off if you get it back on probably going to work off at some point and only one of thse is a tension pulley the other two are idler pullys
@@danielfinney4295 lmao no shit it's a performance part....
@@danielfinney4295 please tell me it's a GNX
‘And I sold the customer ‘new’ pulleys’
Always worth a new bearing or pulley. Getting stuck or needing a tow is worth the cost of 10 of these....
A properly working bearing that needs grease and gets it in time is acceptable.
@@gaineyproductions2725 ONLY if a new part is unavailable.
@@jerrydawg4434 why? You really think if the bearing is only loud and not wobbly that the bearing is completely shot?
And how do you figure you’d get stuck or need a tow before hearing the bearing noise again?
Assuming you’re doing this to your own car, you’d be mindful enough to check them when they start making noise again.
@@Auto209 because I don't have time to waste. If I'm doing the work I'm doing it the best way possible. When I was young and poor I made due. Now I do it right. Your days obviously aren't as jamb packed as mine to wait for a tow truck or do the job again.
@@jerrydawg4434 who the fuck said there would be a tow truck to be waiting for? Look at you on your superior horse. As if we could know what anyone else’s life looks like. It’s a pulley bearing. It ain’t gonna stop the car from running before you realize it’s bad, IF it was to go bad. You saying that you’ll need a tow truck is skipping over the fact that you would have ignored a problem that you shouldn’t.
Just replace the bearings, they are loud cos they are foooked
Also looks to me like he used garden hose washers to fix it.
@@Allen-ch1cy huh?
Throw away generation.
You're being loud sooo later .
The cost to do this is probably close to a new idler.
Cheaper for the home mechanic, but a shop will charge you an hourly rate to do that that'll cost more than just buying a new one.
As a tech, the above statement is so true.
Time is money for everyone. A pulley is $20-40 and minutes to install, versus 30+ minutes to remove, open up, grease, seal back up, and install.
That's the whole idea, save money, do the work yourself. As long as you have some tools and a little mechanical ability. Unless you don't like getting your nails dirty.
@@wiz4020 You would have to start greasing it wayyy earlier to make it last. Once it makes noise, its too late to grease it!
Unless it’s a flat rate shop.
I’ve run into repairs like this. Usually doesn’t add cost the customer usually doesn’t have the money anyways. Better to do what you can to make sure they stay on the road as long as possible i say.
As a professional technician I am always tinkered with things like the pulley bearings. I tried this about 15 years ago and it worked amazing. Tried it again at least 10 more times throughout the years and every time the bearing failed within 30-100 miles after lubing them back up. I guess one saved bearing out of 11 is not too bad. What sucks is when a timing cover or component in the belt circuit gets ruined and then you are facing thousands of dollars in repairs for trying to save $20-$50... Definitely ruined some expensive stuff trying to save pulleys on those 10 more that I tried to lube and made worse instead.
I would never use this method on timing components. That's a bad idea.
I think your problem is you use too much grease. Too much grease in a ball bearing can cause it to fail because it has to push the grease out of the way of the balls.
@@MattsShop But but but but, the video shows a serpentine belt pulley that came from the front of a timing cover that is being repacked with grease. I own 5 vehicles and every one of them has the pulley route bolted to the timing cover and almost every car I work on Monday through Friday the last 20 years of my life has had the pulleys bolted to the timing cover..
@@jtbuilds9176 I think y'all misunderstood each other. He's talking about pulley on the serpentine drive and you're talking about the pulley failing and cutting a hole in the timing cover. I don't think he understood that's what you meant
The one thing old heads and experience has taught me is to never lubricate bearing that are going out, with any kind of lubricant, your better off just leaving it until you can properly fix it.
@@invisible.spectra5809 Being a master tech of about 20 years now I am again here to say this hack is literally that, a hack job and will cost more in the long run.
That’s a good tip if you’re in a bind but you can get the belt and “component kit” that comes with that idler and in many cases it’s cheaper than buying the belt and tensioner (with pulley) and no idler. Later ✌️
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It’s cheaper if you buy aftermarket. OEM is almost always better and more expensive because of that.
A squeaky pully is not what I'd call, in a bind... Why would you go thru the trouble of removing the old part, just to put it back on. Mark this as another "useless life hack"
Exactly
@@twofeetitis so not having to spend any cash on a part that could possibly just need some lubricant it useless... Would you consider a brush replacement on a alternator a useless hack because its still the same "used" alternator?
Don't do this unless you can't afford to buy bearings this is at best a short-term fix. If the bearing can be pressed or driven out it can be matched and just the bearing replaced. If the pulley is plastic I recommend replacing the assembly, as the plastic can be gouged or split when you try to press the old one out. 37 years as a automotive mechanic has shown me you don't want to take chances with this. Failure of a pulley and the subsequent damage to the accessory drive when the belt is thrown is far more expensive than the bearings.
Yep. Bearings are designed to ... bear the brunt of the wear. Failing to replace the wearing part when it's showing signs of wear is a damn amateur mistake.
can i put expensive skateboard bearings? like bones ceramic
Just find the correct bearing and press the old one out and press in the new one and you're good to go except the plastic idlers that have the bearings molded in
That’s what I do, most are a 6000 series bearing anyway.
This is a great way to do the job twice.
I’m just going to buy a new one. I don’t want to get out on the road in the middle of nowhere and the bearing seize up!!
Yep... Don't pay attention to the doorknobs on TH-cam.
I had that happen in yellowstone. When the belt came off it cut the pig tail wire to the AC compressor right through the plug flush with the caseing. Well it was a 1994 Chevey at that point I was done putting money in it and no AC ment bye bye truck.
I've done that you can also knock the bearing out and replace it for less than half the price of a new pulley
Correct far better than trusting a knackered old bearing.
👍👍I’ve done that actually.
I used to do the same with skateboard wheel bearings when I was younger lol
If the bearing is wobbly you can also find the same bearing for cheap, knock the old one out and replace it
You're a smart man
This is why I ran ABEC 5 bearings in my old Tony Hawk. Hoover NSK...yeah they were 125 bucks but they are still on the road 35 years later and have survived a few dozen decks across several people. Sealed bearings should never ever require maintenance if they are quality. Mine came from Germany..not China
@@netrioter I loved the old Lucky ABEC-7 bearings. Now I have Red ABEC-5 and it's just as good I feel. Always on the look out for great skateboard bearings.
@@ThatGuy-vi8chBones Reds Supers
If they are loud, they are on the verge of being bad, if they aren't already. If they are already off, replace them.
I would never take my cars to a mechanic like you 😂
Why not?
@@MattsShopcause you should just replace if making noise and use white lithium squeeze bottle not spray if you are cleaning them/lubing while doing other work.
If the bearing is making noise and is dry. It's junk. No amount of grease will save it. Plus, if the pulley has been in service let's just say 100k miles It's probably worn out and junk also. Just change the whole damn pulley. There not that expensive and it's cheap Maintenance compared to calling a tow truck.
Re replace the centre bearing and they are like $2 lol
Or do that!
Truth. A noisy bearing is an unhappy one. Regreasing is okay in a pinch, but you have to flag it for future issues. I've done this in late hours, shops are closed, and a buddy needs his ride in the morning.
$2 for a no-name Chinese one. Find a good quality bearing for a few bucks more if you want it to last.
@@bigpjohnson SKF never had a come back because of the bearings in over a decade.
@@BigBoyNowYT skf bearings are incredible
Or just swap the bearing it's a common bearing used in pool motors it's a 6203d bearing. It's like 3 many 4 bucks
The 17 year olds guide to engine maintenance. Why not wait until the tensioner seizes up and shredds the belt completely and don't bother doing the water pump either 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loud and proud. That's how we roll 🤘 but not feeling so proud when the car breaks down on the side of the road
If it's already making noise, the only thing im doing with the bearing is replacing it.
Totally right, if a bearing is making noise then it's screwed already. More grease may keep it quiet for a little while but it's living on borrowed time.
Great way to have a pulley lock up and break your new belt👌🏻
YEA RIGHT!
Go to local Napa! They’ll have a metal encased bearing which meets the same F3 (fit, form, function) for like $7. Just replace the bearing if the pulley is in great shape.
This goes in the "just because you can doesn't mean you should" bin.
Tip: pry from the inner lip, if you damage the seal grease will stay inside.
Yup beat me to it!!
Always cut towards yourself.
This might be overkill on servicing bearings but I like to wash it them in an ultrasonic cleaner, blast out the water and any excessive grease with an air compresser, rinse in wd40, and blast away any residual wd40 with the air compressor. This will give a virgin bearing but at least when packing grease, you won't have dirt and old grease contaminating the new bearing. Good video and great info!👍
Thanks Matt, what is the bearing #? Regrease or replace is the quick inexpensive fix. Nice to see someone actually rebuilding something instead of spending someone else’s money!
I am not sure what the bearing number is. It probably has a number stamped on it.
new pulleys are like $7 to $20 each?? on Rockauto, why bother?
Good idea when doing PM to just clean & grease them and check belt wear. Spin water pump, etc to make sure no issues. If it’s making noise I would just replace though. Also would use white lithium grease not red& tacky.
I always do that first because they don't put enough grease in there to begin with. 😊
My favorite viewer
When the ad says “Mechanic special”
You can put a new bearing in them
You don’t even know how to take the seal off bro...
I'm shouting at the screen nnnnnooooooooo. I have done this with rc bearings(hobby grade, not Wal-Mart shit), and thats fibe because it's a rc truck. I have to count on my ride to get me and my son places, the peace of mind is worth 20 bucks
Everyone likes being cheap until it leaves them stranded on the side of the road.
Replace it and be done with it
I usually take the seals out with a pick and use white lithium grease . But I'll try red and tacky. Good tip
Looks like an LS engine 🤔
Sure is. I could tell by:
1. Water pump look and placement
2. Mention of separate tensioner for AC Compressor
Will your next video cover "How to reuse a condom"? Honestly, just buy a new one bud, there not that expensive.
Doesn't matter. Would you throw away a tierod or ball joint just because it needs grease? NO. What's the point of replacing a part that just needs a little grease? Waste of money bro.
@@MattsShop there’s a difference between greasing something that is supposed to be greased and pulling a seal on a sealed bearing to seal an already noisy bearing.
Thanks; I found the number from another TH-cam video. These are really common bearings and can be purchased locally from most automotive suppliers ie NAPA,Parts Source etc.
Again I thank you for your excellent advice and commend you for some great insight!👍
I done this on a customers van to stop the noise whilst waiting for the new part and the fix lasted a day luckily his part had turned up
"tricks" new word for poor I guess
Another option with the pulley you were showing is to just simply replace the bearing. I’ve done this on all my cars and the bearings are usually five to $10 at my local Bearing shop. I have a press but I usually just take a punch and hammer and knock the old one out and tap the new one in carefully.
Giving the customer a new reason to say, "but I seen on the internet....."
Absolutely 100% right! Plus you change knock those bearings out and replace them alone on the cheap too, really common and widely used bearings
I'm glad you made a video about this .It works on a squeaky alternator to that back bearing is usually the one that squeak's.
You didn't put the pulley back on so we can see half a story has never been told you just wasted 30 seconds of my life and I will never ever get back again good day sir lol
Wtf??? Just grease your bearings or replace them. It's just a tip. Don't like it? Don't do it.
I’ve definitely done this before when I was in college and so broke I was eating a steady diet of Top Ramen. 👍
I have been doing this for over 10 years. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. 👍
Next you’ll tell us to flip the serpentine belt over to get more miles out of the other unused side lol.
Life hack!
Love the fact that you're not wearing gloves..
I usually knock the bearing out and replace it keeping the original pulley. Nice tip .
Only temporary because the races and rolling elements have tiny chips and the added grease only cushions for a short time.
You can get by a little longer if you take off both seals and wash out the old grease and all the tiny metal fragments before regreasing.
Time is money. This Costs you time AND money to go back in and replace this thing the second time after it fails. Do it right the first time and you won’t have a problem.
It's best to use a "Synthetic Grease" that type of Grease is the best because it doesn't break down as quickly as your conventional Grease. If you have a sealed bearing that is literally sealed, where the seal is made of metal and can't be broken, drill yourself some small holes and use a needle greaser to inject the grease in it. Once that's done you can use the red permatex gasket maker to seal it.
Hack job. Once a bearing starts making noise metal damage has begun, and adding grease does not remove the damage. Also way too much grease added.
In a tiny high speed sealed bearing like that, the excess grease has no where to go and so it overheats the bearing and breaks the grease down.
Also if you mix two different types of grease it causes bad chemical reactions that will cause ruin.
So randomly stuffing grease into noisy bearings is just setting you up for a catastrophic failure, and while it might make it quieter for a while, it probably won't actually extend the life by very much, and gives you a false sense of security because it's not making noise, meanwhile the grease is filled with metal particles from the wearing bearing and acting like grinding compound, until it wears badly enough it falls off and strands you, and possibly destroys your timing cover at the same time.
And remember, if you spend the $20 on a new idler, it will probably last another 10 years, where this might last a few days weeks or months, and is just a bad investment in time and labor.
If I caught a mechanic doing this to my vehicle, I would demand a refund and take it to a competent mechanic.
And I say this a a diesel/industrial mechanic with training lubrication technology, and a lot of experience with proper bearing lubrication in various situations.
GM is renowned for having bad tensioners that make noise. I have replaced them and had them making noise the next day.
A replacement bearing is $7, just replace it if it's noisey
$7 from who?
@@tihspidtherekciltilc5469 parts store sells them
I'm having belt noise right now. Definitely looks worth doing 👌
Every skaterboarder knew this, nice one
Well if its dry that means the grease has come out and dirt will get in and grind down the bearings until it wobbles itself off and fucks something more expensive up.
I'm gonna go through all of the trouble of taking my belt drive apart to replace something like a water pump and then save 10 bucks by not replacing a idler pulley because I want to press a new bearing in place instead thus putting the entire system at risk.
Yes.
The pulleys are metal and it takes about 2 minutes to do with new high quality bearings.
Been doing it for years with ill effects. Wont work with plastic ones
@@jjjsmith2497 That's a lot of extra effort to save literally a few bucks at the cost of peace of mind.
@@aland7236
Not if your out in the middle of nowhere.
Very easy to do
You try to save the customer a little money and expect a comeback. Not worth it.
Wow! Now you can drive another 100 miles quiet!
Lasted over 30,000 miles.
brothers, do this for the first time when you buy the tensioner pulley, even if it is new. the bearing has very little poor quality grease. so, yes, I confirm this video 100%. quality information.🤙👍
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Look at this guy telling everyone what most skaters could've told ya. ;)
As a bearing salesman let me shine a little light on this situation. Yes if you are extremely careful sometimes you can re pack these bearings, that one looks like a 6203 2rs it’s a fairly common bearing used in multiple applications from overhead doors to lawn mowers and even blenders. But listen carefully in the video he say it had just started squeaking and did not have any wobble in the inner race. That bearing could be greased and may go for a little while longer however if your bearing has any wobble at all in the inner race just buy a new one it’s only 6 bucks.
If it dries up, a shop sells a new one so it doesn't come back in a month complaining.
You can get the part and put it on yourself if you're like that.
If you have all day and everyday, keep lubing it, but not to excess.
If you were a skateboarder as a kid you probably already knew this trick ;)
Probably he replaced the pump but the noise is still there, so he covered his ass by greasing the bearings so customer will be Happpppy 😃
Holy budget man.
I'm sorry that's not regular maintenance, PM's are replacing them. Only in a pinch or in an emergency to get it home. Spend the $90 to get the set with belt kit is a good practice. Once the seal is removed that bearing will dry out faster and seize.
Been doing this for years. I have taken bearing that was frozen and made the workable enough to put them back to use if they were smooth running
Sometimes time is gold, and buying a 10 dollar pulley is just 10 bucks.
Let’s not be so cheap. New bearing is a couple bucks. Replace the bearing. Good shape is a relative term
NO. Be cheap it is your friend.
I do my own car maintenance and for friends occasionally. I'd never leave in a noisy bearing. All that does is buy time, how much is always a gamble. I'm also a maintenance technician and we change bearings often. Best to put a new bearing in something, the more work to reach the bearing the less reason to not press a new one on there.
It’s only a matter of time before that bearing fails because of lack of lubrication. Just change the pulley or put a new bearing in.
It's good that you're sharing this but I think a little like you and I've been doing that for a while on my own vehicles.
Lmao come on bro , the pulley is what 15-20 bucks … Jesus
Free sounds better
This worked on 1999 Chevy Vortec 5.7 V8. Thank You for video. I love the internet. You are fulfilling 2nd greatest commandment to love your neighbor. Hope you get extra points in Heaven.
You're welcome!!
Never regrease bearings!
If they get loud its because of dirt thats in the grove. The balls drive the dirt in the metal and cause damage after time. Just like sandpaper roughing down the material. After time this causes play and ultimatly failure.
This man just greased it up like it was a shopping cart wheel. You’re already saving money doing the work yourself. You can’t do everything for free so go to autozone before you start gettin called a shadetree mechanic lol
As long as you catch it in time you can save them for sure.
If it’s plastic you can replace the Bering. If it’s metal you just throw it away
Exactly!
Great tip. I also like to save money, so when i rebuild engines i rub JB weld on the main bearings to resurface them instead of buying new ones
‘Being a skater taught me’
Damage is already done to the bearing once it starts making noise. The balls and the race area have wear and pitting which you hear when it rotates under belt tension. Adding grease only masks the problem temporarily…
Nah just being cheap he really said maintenance 😂😂
Been there, done that. I also keep a stack of 6203 bearings in the shop.
Glad you talked about it before I did cuz I was about to go off
It’s like a skate bearing. Quick clean and grease and fast af boi
If you skateboard… you know.
This is like changing your oil but not your oil filter
Sometimes cheap is the most expensive option.
LOL!
Nobody talks about this because the seal comes off and the grease will pull out making the bearing toast. Seen it countless times on the machinery I work on.
Pullies cost next to nothing. So do small bearings. Just replace them and don't look back at them for years instead of having to wonder if the deal has come off again.
If your pinching pennies like that then your not driving with the price of gas Lattteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Maybe if it last longer than a new one because the grease is better but I don't think that would be the case in most situations
Notice how he didn’t show taking the bearing out and pressing it back in. You just can’t put grease in the exposed side that he shows.
The noise comes from pitted bearings. Not lack of grease
I like it man, I mean the bearing is usually pretty cheap. But the mentality behind not having to replace everything, simply regular maintenance can go a long way. Those dollars add up after a while even if the part is cheap.