Sullivans pier used to be bonanza steakhouse. My friend worked there in the 90s, and I used to go there all the time. It Sat vacant for many years and then became that seafood place,. The dental office you see next to it, was a McDonald’s going all the way back to the 80s. I remember riding my bike there with my dad in the mid 80’s when they first introduced the McNugget...They were giving them out for free as a promotional deal..., and being my dirt cheap father, we were there for the free stuff😀😀😀.
Your channel is a part of my life's routine. Every time you drop a video, I would watch it from start to end. It's always a great pleasure to travel with you. Thanks! : )
Use to know that guy that owned the Indian market, who was Ravi. He retired like a year ago and sold it to that current owner. But still owns the restaurant next door. You really should have seen it before he solid it. It was an interesting place to go to and where I got my spices from. But that restaurant, The Dhaba, is one of the best Ive eaten at.
The alorica shop in the background at 1:48 was a sports store back in 1981. Also, there was a Walgreens and Alpha Beta in there at about the same time.
I really appreciate videos like this, I've been living in Phoenix for almost 2 years and your videos always introduce me to new and interesting places!
The "main street" in the tiny town I live in has been dead for nearly a century. I kid you not, a lot of it is to do with the town council wanting to keep the downtown locked in the 1800's, the small size of the town doesn't help either.
Orlando Florida Orlando.gov has big turn around with 🏘 offices restaurants, multi use, fitness centers, nail salons. The tourists & business travel can push most Orlando areas. 💲💲💲. Unlike other urban locations, Orlando can get $ from tourists, travel. It can be hit & miss. I've lived in FL since 2000. It had a few rough patch times 📉.
Especially in small towns of 2,000 people or less, industry leaves town, main street loses businesses as a result and some people move to the big cities...
DL Lambert I’ve been to Orlando dozens of times actually and yeah, the Downtown and especially Main Street areas are thriving, so I guess Orlando is a definite exception in this category.
Mostly only see tourist-driven economy cities have more thriving main streets. "regular towns" don't really have anything viable since folks need to buy stuff for cheap at big box stores.
There are a least a dozen to a half dozen new condos going up in Downtown Mesa. They are even building a new film school near the library in downtown Mesa. There is also a new pub in downtown mesa as well.
Every time we get a new mayor all you hear is “fix it the downtown” then they spend the money all that’s downtown is lawyers, courthouse and coffee houses.
RE: Sullivan's Pier. Out in the Midwest we have something called Joe's Crabshack. The Indianapolis one has been closed for ages. The problem is that the whole building is themed to be a Joe's Crabshack and it works as a Joe's Crabshack and it faces the water and all that jazz so it really works as a seafood restaurant but that's about it. It just doesn't work as any other type of restaurant so you either need to get into that gimmick or you need to spend a lot of money to remodel to make it work. In places like suburban AZ or Indy, neither of which are known for seafood, I think the buildings will eventually just be demolished to start over. It will be tough or impossible to reuse these buildings in their current state just because market forces won't be strong enough to sustain seafood.
I lived on Main Street just over the Mesa city line near Tri City mall back in the early ‘90s for about 3 years. Main was the armpit of Mesa even back then, so I’m not surprised it isn’t doing well now. Apache wasn’t any better. Those old interstate roads are full of dilapidated businesses that dried up once the Superstition Freeway opened in the ‘70s. The route the light rail takes now used to be served by an insanely long bus route that ran from practically Sun City along Grand Avenue, thru downtown, over to Tempe on Van Buren if memory serves, by ASU, then east on Apache/Main to the far edge of Mesa. I can see why they chose it for light rail since most of that route was already lined with dying businesses and the road only ever had light traffic along most of its length. Hopefully the various cities along the route will be able to redevelop some commercial and residential centers in pockets, boost property values and attract new residents.
The building you started at was a Bonanza Steakhouse. An all you can eat salad bar steak chain from the middle 1970s until the mid 1990s. I worked at the Hindquarters Family Steakhouse down by the old Kmart. People would always complain and retort with: “I’ll be going to Bonanza next time!”
@@Marcusianery late reply on my part but ADR is another dirty room. It's Dan Bell of the Dead Mall Series and his friends exploring and investigating dirty hotel/motel rooms. Great show
Tnb Spotter - I wouldn't put that kind of a BLANKET STATEMENT. I'd say that DEPENDS ON THE PARTICULARS OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. Some have been been dying since the 1950's with the first STRIP MALLS, while others start their downturn with the Aughts Recession. Even some others have been coming back as HIGH INCOME AREAS.
Ive noticed recently a lot of stuff on main street is closed now. Mesa is weird because main street runs for nearly 15 miles across the entire city. Actually it runs a lot longer as it goes into other cities but all along it stuff is closed down. This trend really started around 10 years ago but in the past 5 years or so its picked up the pace. Its sadly also expanding off of main now too with 1 mile south and north along it dying out.
I'm sorry to hear that you don't have a popular opinion of the light rail, but I have to disagree with your assessment that it's harmful to main street long term. I get that initial construction of it is rough, and there's not much way around that unfortunately, but I was a pretty regular rider before this lockdown started and there's plenty of small businesses along the line that were thriving before this pandemic started - SAS Fabrics in Tempe (near Apache/McClintock), Heaven on a Spoon gelato (a short walk from the end of the line at Gilbert/Main), Bookmans (19th ave/Northern), Garcia's thrift store (Apache/McClintock) and Fair Trade Cafe at Roosevelt/Central are some of my favorites.
All of your videos make me really appreciate the Arizona state~ it could be a mix of the music you choose and the visuals shown but either way I love all of your videos located in Arizona!
The light rail did the same to the area when I lived around Camelback and Central in Phoenix. So many places just closed due to the construction limiting access.
I love Main St! It’s awesome I live only half a mile north on Alma School from the Main intersection. I go to the McDonald’s at Alma School and Main pretty much every day and I shop at the Safeway at Dobson and Main every weekend.
I know you are based in the Phoenix area but am surprised by the number of dead malls considering it is one of the fastest growing metros in this country, and that extreme hot weather makes indoor shopping more palatable, unlike economically depressed metros where other dead mall channels are based.
Love the lunar and sonic music you put it in this video (especially the lunar music because I’m a huge fan). The lunar 2 music is also fitting because the protagonist was somewhat of an archaeologist at the beginning of the game. These videos make me want to visit Arizona!
There used to be an unfinished wood furniture shop on Main ( theKnot House) that my Dad and I used to frequent until the light rail starved them, and even we stopped going because it was a pain to get to,. I think my Dad was one of their best customers :).
Another great video! I always enjoy your videos that are shot in Mesa, AZ and Tempe, AZ, probably because I could never visit them because it's too hot.
Ok so here’s the thing as an asu alumni, they have random RA checks if they even *think* you’re drinking underage so a lot of us, at least back in the day mid 2010’s, used to sit behind buildings and dumpsters and drink at night, sometimes smoke. And the beer cans have piss in them so don’t kick them😭. I remember paying my cousin to buy beer for us at the circle k there. Boy I can remember this but when it comes to differential calculus....
I vaguly remember the pier restaurant. I noticed when you look on google msps Main is original US 60, seems places are trying to bring it up, but yea alot of strip clubs etc still along it. The very divided old highway look might not help either, lol
The British equivalent of Main Street, the High Street, has been in steady decline for many years for several reasons, not least the financial crisis and the rise of internet shopping. I think that the ongoing lockdown will be the death knell for many more of the shops on them, especially independent places without an online presence.
Literally did a spit-take during that "nice little shot of your pick-up truck" when I caught that signage of that Alorica call center right above it. I used to work at an Alorica back when we had one out here in Terre Haute Indiana. Wasn't sure if they were still around or not.
Not a fan of the term 'food desert', not in the Phoenix metro area. There are chain grocery stores well within a short drive (most poor people own cars or have phones to navigate them to a bus stop). Clearly that is a run-down area of Mesa (and you probably should have meandered the trailer park...) that instead of being served by Fry's, Basha's, or Wal-Mart, is instead preyed-upon by small retailers who purchase food from other stores (or distributors) and resell at an exorbitant price to the SNAP population. Notice the Fry's (Kroger) salad dressing?
Saw Main Street Mesa and was hoping to see what happened to the old Matta's cantina. Loved that place, but it was a shame that the kids were fighting over the location and ended up having to close it. Also remember the guy who used to ride his bicycle dancing up and down Main all day everyday.
People think the area around ASU is a nice place. LOL, they didn't grow up in Tempe. Mill was something to see in the eighties, it had a lot more charm. But...
Lot nicer now than 20 years ago when I first moved to the valley. The Tempe area around the light rail near the 101 was really rough, I was personally afraid for my safety in broad daylight one of the few times I was there back in the day. Half of the commercial properties have already been turned into new condos, the rest will follow in 5 years.
+Retail Archaeology The Fish and Chip place has a phone number on it. Have you thought to call the number and see what they are asking for rent? Maybe they can clue you in to why the place isn't rented. The building needs updating. For the amount of money needed to turn it into a branded location the building does not have enough square feet. Be interesting to know why it has been empty.
It's a shame your channel didn't exist before they began building the light rail on Main Street. They used to have some amazing Pee Wee Herman Route 66 type stores along that street
oh 'light-rail' always looks good on paper. here in CLT they have to rent tracks from Norfolk Southern. then they tried to add more tracks but forgot about things like : not owning any land, houses and cemeteries in the way, zoning... and it has disrupted small biz here majorly. But I digress... Great vid and as always...thank you for posting!
I think the hours could be strange on some of the businesses due to the COVID-19 outbreak and some restaurants are now doing take-out and delivery only during it.
The health of "Main Street USA" actually depends a lot on the town or city you find it in. For example, if there's no mall in close proximity to a certain town, and a large, open area in the town center that promotes getting people out around Main Street, you'll find that it generally does well enough to survive and thrive. Yes, even in Crazy Corona 2020 America.
2 Million? You look at those vacant stores wondering what buisness You could start, let's see...Video Rental Store, Used Music Store, Used Book Store, T.V. VCR repair, Auto Insurance Sales, Nope! Nada!
I have 2 million dollars. I could buy a ton of Disney stock while it's low thanks to the Corona virus, or buy a dying marketplace with no future! Tough choice...
planescaped - YOU'VE MISSED THE TRAIN LIKE A LITTLE OVER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO (late April, 2020) when DIS stock reached a intra-day low of < U$80 a pop, a couple of weeks later it's like U$110 a pop (timing the market is such a LOUSY BUSINESS). Been following this as it has been discussed endlessly at CLOWNFISH TV since its' owner is a DIS stockholder and have been discussing over and over the Disney Soap Opera. TRY AGAIN!
Light rail hasn’t helped anywhere in AZ, it is basically a homeless / semi homeless transportation system. Has really hurt Main Street even the parts that construction ended five or more years ago.
when the quarentine is over maybe you could think about doing a dying theme park episode lol 6 flags magic mountain in LA has been super desperate for people to come things can't be going well for them before and after this pandemic.
I feel like it's also all the homeless encampments/drug dens (that area where Erik found the crack pipe) that is more of a killer than the light rail, no one wants to be around sketchy stuff. I wonder if the Sullivan's Pier building didn't get anyone new in it yet because of that area that smelled like pee...that doesn't help the curb appeal. I think with any type of rail system it depends, if the buildings are quite shiny and new looking, then it will become more active. If on the other hand the buildings look ancient and need a lot of changes done, then that's an area killer...regardless if there's a rail system there or not. I sometimes wonder if trying to keep area's historical looking while not maintaining the nice exterior (nice time period related [in relation to when the building was constructed] paint jobs) causes that to backfire and the area to fail. At least they should try and restore the outside to how it looked back in the day, it may take effort and money, but that's most likely going to benefit later.
During the construction, business access is so thoroughly disrupted that many businesses on the route go belly up. Ridership is so pathetic that it continues to cost far more money to operate than it'll ever bring in.
I'm not against vagrants or homeless sleeping, camping in out of the way places. The problem is many times it's a 🔥 or 🚒 hazard, pest control problem. Odors, drugs(needles), trash, graffiti tags, etc are bad. It makes the business, employees at other places unsafe.
Sullivans pier used to be bonanza steakhouse. My friend worked there in the 90s, and I used to go there all the time. It Sat vacant for many years and then became that seafood place,. The dental office you see next to it, was a McDonald’s going all the way back to the 80s. I remember riding my bike there with my dad in the mid 80’s when they first introduced the McNugget...They were giving them out for free as a promotional deal..., and being my dirt cheap father, we were there for the free stuff😀😀😀.
I remember going to McDonald's back in 1989 and a fight broke out at lunch between two kids (one was named Roy) from Mountain View.
This is so awesome. I’m so young and I feel like nothing iconic has been made in my generation yet. Well not as iconic as the McNugget
Your channel is a part of my life's routine. Every time you drop a video, I would watch it from start to end. It's always a great pleasure to travel with you. Thanks! : )
Thank you so much for watching!
Use to know that guy that owned the Indian market, who was Ravi. He retired like a year ago and sold it to that current owner. But still owns the restaurant next door. You really should have seen it before he solid it. It was an interesting place to go to and where I got my spices from. But that restaurant, The Dhaba, is one of the best Ive eaten at.
The alorica shop in the background at 1:48 was a sports store back in 1981. Also, there was a Walgreens and Alpha Beta in there at about the same time.
I really appreciate videos like this, I've been living in Phoenix for almost 2 years and your videos always introduce me to new and interesting places!
The "main street" in the tiny town I live in has been dead for nearly a century. I kid you not, a lot of it is to do with the town council wanting to keep the downtown locked in the 1800's, the small size of the town doesn't help either.
That rusted out swamp cooler at 3:05 is so iconic of abandoned old buildings here in the Valley
Most Main Streets throughout most US towns seem to be dying, especially around downtown areas that were affected by Mall openings
Orlando Florida Orlando.gov has big turn around with 🏘 offices restaurants, multi use, fitness centers, nail salons. The tourists & business travel can push most Orlando areas. 💲💲💲. Unlike other urban locations, Orlando can get $ from tourists, travel. It can be hit & miss. I've lived in FL since 2000. It had a few rough patch times 📉.
Especially in small towns of 2,000 people or less, industry leaves town, main street loses businesses as a result and some people move to the big cities...
DL Lambert I’ve been to Orlando dozens of times actually and yeah, the Downtown and especially Main Street areas are thriving, so I guess Orlando is a definite exception in this category.
I'd imagine Orlandos heavy tourist industry helped the main street from dying.
Mostly only see tourist-driven economy cities have more thriving main streets. "regular towns" don't really have anything viable since folks need to buy stuff for cheap at big box stores.
100% right....It IS important for people to see these things.
Sullivan’s Pier sounds really good.
And the two piece combo with drink is the same price as the regular 2 piece.
they should turn that place into a scoops ahoy ice cream parlor!
There are a least a dozen to a half dozen new condos going up in Downtown Mesa. They are even building a new film school near the library in downtown Mesa. There is also a new pub in downtown mesa as well.
Coincidentally... I'm currently in Tempe, AZ at the moment and actually drove by this area the same day you posted this video!
I love this. There are some really interesting old buildings all along Main/Apache and along Country Club as well.
I think before it was Sullivan's Pier it was called "Knock Kneed Lobster" (fish & chips joint)
Like always, thank you for another great video.
can you please make an updated video about JCPenney since they filed for bankruptcy now?
Every time we get a new mayor all you hear is “fix it the downtown” then they spend the money all that’s downtown is lawyers, courthouse and coffee houses.
RE: Sullivan's Pier. Out in the Midwest we have something called Joe's Crabshack. The Indianapolis one has been closed for ages. The problem is that the whole building is themed to be a Joe's Crabshack and it works as a Joe's Crabshack and it faces the water and all that jazz so it really works as a seafood restaurant but that's about it. It just doesn't work as any other type of restaurant so you either need to get into that gimmick or you need to spend a lot of money to remodel to make it work.
In places like suburban AZ or Indy, neither of which are known for seafood, I think the buildings will eventually just be demolished to start over. It will be tough or impossible to reuse these buildings in their current state just because market forces won't be strong enough to sustain seafood.
I ate there many times, it was alot better than Pete's. I think it was Knocked Kneed Lobster before, they still have one in Phoenix.
The homeless problem will probably get a lot worse
America need help more people
A lot of people getting evicted once the government lifts the temporary eviction protection.
WooferJr that’s just a month away
yeah I loved that artwork on the patio....cute little mall....
I lived on Main Street just over the Mesa city line near Tri City mall back in the early ‘90s for about 3 years. Main was the armpit of Mesa even back then, so I’m not surprised it isn’t doing well now. Apache wasn’t any better. Those old interstate roads are full of dilapidated businesses that dried up once the Superstition Freeway opened in the ‘70s.
The route the light rail takes now used to be served by an insanely long bus route that ran from practically Sun City along Grand Avenue, thru downtown, over to Tempe on Van Buren if memory serves, by ASU, then east on Apache/Main to the far edge of Mesa. I can see why they chose it for light rail since most of that route was already lined with dying businesses and the road only ever had light traffic along most of its length. Hopefully the various cities along the route will be able to redevelop some commercial and residential centers in pockets, boost property values and attract new residents.
The building you started at was a Bonanza Steakhouse. An all you can eat salad bar steak chain from the middle 1970s until the mid 1990s. I worked at the Hindquarters Family Steakhouse down by the old Kmart. People would always complain and retort with: “I’ll be going to Bonanza next time!”
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You and I watch all the same channels lol
Whats ADR!? More exploration like this of old malls and market streets?
@@Marcusianery late reply on my part but ADR is another dirty room. It's Dan Bell of the Dead Mall Series and his friends exploring and investigating dirty hotel/motel rooms. Great show
@@mortthechicken8639 Oh yeah! That one! I seen it a few times :) Thanks!
Houston is blessed with a great Main Street. Whole lotta bars and restaurants.
Love your videos like always
The nautical theme was also found in the McDonald's when it was in the building next to Sullivan's Pier
Only a few things make me happy after a rough sleep, RA is one of them :) thanks!!!
Plot twist: Main Street USA has been dead for over forty years.
Tnb Spotter - I wouldn't put that kind of a BLANKET STATEMENT. I'd say that DEPENDS ON THE PARTICULARS OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
Some have been been dying since the 1950's with the first STRIP MALLS, while others start their downturn with the Aughts Recession. Even some others have been coming back as HIGH INCOME AREAS.
Yeah, suburban sprawl will do that :/
Love the background music thanks for another great video
Ive noticed recently a lot of stuff on main street is closed now. Mesa is weird because main street runs for nearly 15 miles across the entire city. Actually it runs a lot longer as it goes into other cities but all along it stuff is closed down. This trend really started around 10 years ago but in the past 5 years or so its picked up the pace. Its sadly also expanding off of main now too with 1 mile south and north along it dying out.
I'm sorry to hear that you don't have a popular opinion of the light rail, but I have to disagree with your assessment that it's harmful to main street long term. I get that initial construction of it is rough, and there's not much way around that unfortunately, but I was a pretty regular rider before this lockdown started and there's plenty of small businesses along the line that were thriving before this pandemic started - SAS Fabrics in Tempe (near Apache/McClintock), Heaven on a Spoon gelato (a short walk from the end of the line at Gilbert/Main), Bookmans (19th ave/Northern), Garcia's thrift store (Apache/McClintock) and Fair Trade Cafe at Roosevelt/Central are some of my favorites.
All of your videos make me really appreciate the Arizona state~ it could be a mix of the music you choose and the visuals shown but either way I love all of your videos located in Arizona!
Arizona is a beautiful state. Pretty much every eco system besides a jungle. Flagstaff is actually at a higher elevation than Denver, CO.
Theres a jcpenneys that's closing in Las Vegas you should visit before it does and take us through it
The Sullivan's In the late 70s early 80s was a ponderosa or Bonanza steak house. Ate there with my Grandpa a couple times.
The light rail did the same to the area when I lived around Camelback and Central in Phoenix. So many places just closed due to the construction limiting access.
I love Main St! It’s awesome I live only half a mile north on Alma School from the Main intersection. I go to the McDonald’s at Alma School and Main pretty much every day and I shop at the Safeway at Dobson and Main every weekend.
Gonna start following you now…
I know you are based in the Phoenix area but am surprised by the number of dead malls considering it is one of the fastest growing metros in this country, and that extreme hot weather makes indoor shopping more palatable, unlike economically depressed metros where other dead mall channels are based.
Very interesting, maybe it will one day open up again.
Thanks for the tour.
You should've read the notebook. There may have been some sketches and maps of buried treasures in it.
I lived in las Vegas during the 2000s and it was wonderful watching the strip mall wasteland be built.
Hahaha I just drive by Sullivan's pier I might live near there
A lot of main streets in the US are closing, and is an alarming trend because this is prime real estate for small mom and pop shops
Love the lunar and sonic music you put it in this video (especially the lunar music because I’m a huge fan). The lunar 2 music is also fitting because the protagonist was somewhat of an archaeologist at the beginning of the game. These videos make me want to visit Arizona!
There used to be an unfinished wood furniture shop on Main ( theKnot House) that my Dad and I used to frequent until the light rail starved them, and even we stopped going because it was a pain to get to,. I think my Dad was one of their best customers :).
Another great video!
I always enjoy your videos that are shot in Mesa, AZ and Tempe, AZ, probably because I could never visit them because it's too hot.
Ok so here’s the thing as an asu alumni, they have random RA checks if they even *think* you’re drinking underage so a lot of us, at least back in the day mid 2010’s, used to sit behind buildings and dumpsters and drink at night, sometimes smoke. And the beer cans have piss in them so don’t kick them😭. I remember paying my cousin to buy beer for us at the circle k there. Boy I can remember this but when it comes to differential calculus....
I vaguly remember the pier restaurant. I noticed when you look on google msps Main is original US 60, seems places are trying to bring it up, but yea alot of strip clubs etc still along it. The very divided old highway look might not help either, lol
I love your videos because I live in Mesa/Gilbert! Pete's Fish and Chips is awesome!
Never really had a main street in my city. But then again in Orlando, our main streets are actually huge highways.
I believe Sullivan's pier use to be Bonanza. I am a Mesa native.
Big fan from China. Love your content.
One Main St has been crappy for decades lol. No surprise here and ASU doesn't affect that.
Also The Dhaba is AMAZING! You have to try it!
The British equivalent of Main Street, the High Street, has been in steady decline for many years for several reasons, not least the financial crisis and the rise of internet shopping. I think that the ongoing lockdown will be the death knell for many more of the shops on them, especially independent places without an online presence.
Absolutely.This lockdown will kill the high st as most businesses will not open up again.Scary times for a lot of people.👍🇬🇧
The Indian market is actually part of the restaurant. When they're open they have quite a lot of interesting things in there.
Literally did a spit-take during that "nice little shot of your pick-up truck" when I caught that signage of that Alorica call center right above it. I used to work at an Alorica back when we had one out here in Terre Haute Indiana. Wasn't sure if they were still around or not.
Didn't this used to be a Bonanza steakhouse? I remember going there as a kid.
Not a fan of the term 'food desert', not in the Phoenix metro area. There are chain grocery stores well within a short drive (most poor people own cars or have phones to navigate them to a bus stop). Clearly that is a run-down area of Mesa (and you probably should have meandered the trailer park...) that instead of being served by Fry's, Basha's, or Wal-Mart, is instead preyed-upon by small retailers who purchase food from other stores (or distributors) and resell at an exorbitant price to the SNAP population. Notice the Fry's (Kroger) salad dressing?
Saw Main Street Mesa and was hoping to see what happened to the old Matta's cantina. Loved that place, but it was a shame that the kids were fighting over the location and ended up having to close it. Also remember the guy who used to ride his bicycle dancing up and down Main all day everyday.
Is that the marble zone from sonic?
People think the area around ASU is a nice place. LOL, they didn't grow up in Tempe.
Mill was something to see in the eighties, it had a lot more charm. But...
Lot nicer now than 20 years ago when I first moved to the valley. The Tempe area around the light rail near the 101 was really rough, I was personally afraid for my safety in broad daylight one of the few times I was there back in the day. Half of the commercial properties have already been turned into new condos, the rest will follow in 5 years.
I miss your live streams of dead shopping centers - Abandoned
I'm really interested to see what your channel documents in the coming months
+Retail Archaeology The Fish and Chip place has a phone number on it. Have you thought to call the number and see what they are asking for rent? Maybe they can clue you in to why the place isn't rented. The building needs updating. For the amount of money needed to turn it into a branded location the building does not have enough square feet. Be interesting to know why it has been empty.
The new lightrail that there is definitely not free there are security guards on the train
Monsterland was a neat restaurant down on Main Street
Too bad it shut down
It's a shame your channel didn't exist before they began building the light rail on Main Street. They used to have some amazing Pee Wee Herman Route 66 type stores along that street
Sullivan's looks like it use to be a Nolan's Steakhouse
Sad to see that homeless place. Being British I just can’t believe this. U.K. has homeless and problems too but government help a lot.
Is that music from Megaman I hear?
What song playing at 2:20 called?
That fish shop Probably didn't pay the taxes they were charging customers and employees.
oh 'light-rail' always looks good on paper. here in CLT they have to rent tracks from Norfolk Southern. then they tried to add more tracks but forgot about things like : not owning any land, houses and cemeteries in the way, zoning... and it has disrupted small biz here majorly. But I digress... Great vid and as always...thank you for posting!
This feels déjà vu - ish. Seems like you did this a little less than a year ago.
Nope, not me. As far as I know I don't think anyone has covered these spots before.
@@RetailArchaeology ... Yup. I was thinking of one you did in AJ, April 19. Had to go back and figure it out.
Was Sullivan's peir a dairy queen at one time?
Your not Jeff of taefledermaus are you? You Sound very similar .
Why is this Main Street in Gilbert/Mesa Arizona is dead
I would call Main Street "face street" in my youth lol idk why
It Is Dying!
I think the hours could be strange on some of the businesses due to the COVID-19 outbreak and some restaurants are now doing take-out and delivery only during it.
He visited before the outbreak.
This was filmed back in December.
or your town is so corrupt, they just keep building strip malls, plaza's , or office parks.
You picked the most ghetto looking parts of Main Street 😂
It'd be great if you showcased the good parts like Main/Center.
The health of "Main Street USA" actually depends a lot on the town or city you find it in. For example, if there's no mall in close proximity to a certain town, and a large, open area in the town center that promotes getting people out around Main Street, you'll find that it generally does well enough to survive and thrive. Yes, even in Crazy Corona 2020 America.
Devils liquor sold me alcohol my freshman year at asu
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2 Million? You look at those vacant stores wondering what buisness You could start, let's see...Video Rental Store, Used Music Store, Used Book Store, T.V. VCR repair, Auto Insurance Sales, Nope! Nada!
I have 2 million dollars. I could buy a ton of Disney stock while it's low thanks to the Corona virus, or buy a dying marketplace with no future!
Tough choice...
Yah, but does Disney have light rail?
planescaped - YOU'VE MISSED THE TRAIN LIKE A LITTLE OVER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO (late April, 2020) when DIS stock reached a intra-day low of < U$80 a pop, a couple of weeks later it's like U$110 a pop (timing the market is such a LOUSY BUSINESS).
Been following this as it has been discussed endlessly at CLOWNFISH TV since its' owner is a DIS stockholder and have been discussing over and over the Disney Soap Opera.
TRY AGAIN!
Light rail hasn’t helped anywhere in AZ, it is basically a homeless / semi homeless transportation system. Has really hurt Main Street even the parts that construction ended five or more years ago.
when the quarentine is over maybe you could think about doing a dying theme park episode lol 6 flags magic mountain in LA has been super desperate for people to come things can't be going well for them before and after this pandemic.
Light rail is a business killer.
I feel like it's also all the homeless encampments/drug dens (that area where Erik found the crack pipe) that is more of a killer than the light rail, no one wants to be around sketchy stuff. I wonder if the Sullivan's Pier building didn't get anyone new in it yet because of that area that smelled like pee...that doesn't help the curb appeal.
I think with any type of rail system it depends, if the buildings are quite shiny and new looking, then it will become more active. If on the other hand the buildings look ancient and need a lot of changes done, then that's an area killer...regardless if there's a rail system there or not.
I sometimes wonder if trying to keep area's historical looking while not maintaining the nice exterior (nice time period related [in relation to when the building was constructed] paint jobs) causes that to backfire and the area to fail. At least they should try and restore the outside to how it looked back in the day, it may take effort and money, but that's most likely going to benefit later.
It could be that light rail stations attract homeless.
During the construction, business access is so thoroughly disrupted that many businesses on the route go belly up. Ridership is so pathetic that it continues to cost far more money to operate than it'll ever bring in.
Ayy lmao
yes, it was dying, but not fast enough so they locked everyone at home and made them buy everything online.
I'm not against vagrants or homeless sleeping, camping in out of the way places. The problem is many times it's a 🔥 or 🚒 hazard, pest control problem. Odors, drugs(needles), trash, graffiti tags, etc are bad. It makes the business, employees at other places unsafe.
Is this the retail or homeless archaeology channel lol