SP1200 vs. Mirage - Boom Bap Sampler Comparison
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- SP1200 Compared to Ensoniq Mirage
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I 've noticed that the Mirage has a pop at the end of the sample.
What's up man!!!! Probably. Those type of things don't bother me.
i think the disgruntled viewer with glasses should be a regular occurrence ha
The Mirage is amazing for that early Ensoniq boom bap sound. Sounds more like the rza than dilla for example. The biggest difference I’m my opinion that makes me even want the SP is the sep outputs. The Mirage having 1 mono out is a bummer, especially since with Soundprocess you can make the Mirage multitimbral. Could really get into Fairlight CMI territory if it had 8 outputs
The sp has a richer sound
cool video man. the mirage sounds better than i assumed it would.
Much appreciated!!! It's a great sampler!! It's a great sampler!!! Very popular in Hip-Hop history but isn't spoken about as much as an SP1200 or SP12. Thanks for watching!!!!
Thanks for sharing and put some humor! !!
Happy changes !!!!
Good Music and lot of Knowledge! !!
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What's up David!!! Thanks man!!!!
I love the Mirage's sound and just have bought one. The main difference I found in this comparison is that the SP1200 seems to have a little bit more low end and that the cymbals stay more "separated" from the rest of the kit. On the mirage they bloom more into the mid frequencies and sound louder, like with a compressor. Both sound great! My preference actually changed from pitch to pitch - both had their sweet spots.
The Mirage sounds thinner compared to the SP's fuller & heavier sound in my opinion. Not that this would be a deal breaker since you can always tune your samples to make different aspects shine through.
I agree!!!
@@TheDaydreamSound have you ever done a s950 vs sp1200 comparison before ?
Makes me realize how lucky I am with my mirage!! Now can't wait to get home and run sounds through it!
Yep! It's just an all around good sampler to have around.
@@TheDaydreamSound I was going to ask - what sample rate do you have the mirage at? 27.2?
They don't sound that different to me but the SP does have a little bit of a fuller sound, it's really negligible though oh, excellent demo daydream!
Much appreciated!!!!!
How u been broski its been a while since i've seen ur channel. Its awesome u made a video comparison. That nerd bit was hilarious... i was fixing to say exactly that. Haha
i know you’ve done videos like this before but this one probably did the most to convince me that the mirage actually sounds better than the SP, i almost want to say objectively. synthmania just did a video demoing some mirage factory disks and he is such a true keyboardist he made them sound massive. i guess those of us who don’t have a mirage yet had better get it pretty soon if we ever want a fair price on it.
Nice!!!! It definitely a good sampler to have!!!!
Aw yeeea! New album gets a physical release! Just pre-ordered now!
Also, this comparison was great.. now I need to make room in the studio for a mirage haha.
What's up man!!!! Very much appreciated!!! Thanks a million!!!!
The Daydream Sound really stoked to hear the new tape man!
Got a noob question: Why is it that the Mirage Disk "patches" sound so real (almost sounds like a late 80s orchestral soundtrack) but when you sample your own sound it sounds obviously 8bit (in a good way no less)? thx. Love the vids! inspiring me to get a Mirage!
What's up Louie!!! Thanks for reaching out!! There's an ISF-1 filter available for the Mirage. Cleans up the samples a bit. I would bet on that being the reason. Or the people at Ensoniq were just great at sampling!
The Daydream Sound haha you’re probably right. Thanks for the reply!
I just bought a Mirage (DSK-1...just arrived! :) & only now realizing there are actually different OS disk options (like MASOS)?? Could you offer any insight on the general reasons you’d use these? I’ve never seen anyone just lay-it-out (that there are different options & what they’re for.) The OS’s just get vaguely mentioned, never explained.
Also, it almost seems like there are/were more PC-based-sample-editing-programs for the Mirage (than say, the EPS’s/ASR’s).
I read a comment the Mirage’s analog inputs are noisy(er than digital transfers from PC, but of course that would bypass the sound of Ensoniq’s A/D’s). I wonder if the Mirage’s ‘8-bit-character-crunch’ would still come across enough to justify transferring sounds digitally (sometimes). Wouldn’t the original factory sound disks probably have been done digitally? (I have no idea).
Any thoughts?
What's up man!!! Thanks for reaching out!!! In short MASOS is just an advanced software operation system for the Mirage. It has additonal features and capability that the traditional O.S dosen't have. There's also the Soundprocess O.S which allows you to do even more things with the Mirage. Here's a video of a Mirage sample transferred into an EPS16+ th-cam.com/video/BinVL3Li2O4/w-d-xo.html
To be honest,I couldn't spot any difference.I would choose Mirage because I know the sound it produce from beats that used Mirage to sample and filter the drums,not because i could spot any difference.It might be the untrained ear,or the flattening that sometimes happens through media(speakers,microphone and especially youtube filtering),but really they both sound crisp and warm.
I would be quite interested to see the comparison with a bass sample on both of these machines.There is where the 4bit difference do make difference.
Great video regardless,informative as always.
The mirage has definitely more character
DAYDREAM - I NEED your opinion.
Could THE Mirage Lo Fi Samples ever pass for Emu SP 12/1200 samples ?
Thx - I think they are So Super Close that the Average Listener Could NOT tell the difference- What Say You ?
Kinda but mostly no.
Very similar in sound.
The mirage was affordable even in 1990 but yeah at 8 bits it will be crustier than the sp the sp is great if you don't care about price and want to own a major piece of sampler history if you just want a vintage a sampler the mirage is a more sane choice
I agree!!!!
Hi Daydream, another question haha, sorry to bother. Is the DMS-8 Mirage Module sound exactly the same as the Keyboard versions (DSK-1 and DSK-8)? And will I be able to pass velocity information to the DMS-8 through my midi keyboard controller? Appreciate you taking the time!
Thnx. Mirage all dAy
I have 2 EPS' and I couldn't tell the difference between those and my SP1200.
Nice!!!
@@TheDaydreamSound by the way, gold revelation is one of the best tracks ever created.
Very much appreciated!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a million!!!!!!
@@TheDaydreamSound I like the "pushy" bass drum, and the synth sample a lot. Ive been into things like this since Boards of Canada hit the scene in '97 or so. A little less laid back, but the same vibe
@@TheDaydreamSound small change is bad as hell too. Again, I tend to go the "rock band" route for my music, but I love all of my synths samplers and drum machines.
Did you do a sp 1200 against a asr 10 yet haven't seen it if you did just asking peace?
Here you go! th-cam.com/video/RdArz76SMDM/w-d-xo.html
Wow, the Mirage sounds nice. But whats goin on with the sample on it? The release of the fist kick/ride goes down in volume and sound like there is a compressor with a quiet long attack on it. Surprisingly only on the first kick and not on every drumhit. If this is a common behavior of the Mirage I guess that it is a good sampler for single drum samples and percussive instruments.
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Most likely I had the velocity envelope set to a slow attack.
Dayum. Nice!
Thanks!!!!!!!
Do you have any experience with the roland W-30? Seems like a good value for the price
I don't but I do like it!!!!
very smooth sound..if you are looking for grit..but a great all in one thing if you want to make a whole song with it..you can
It maybe seemed like the SP had a low end push and the Mirage had sort of a mid-low end push.