Thanks everyone for the quick response. I've given away all 5 premium membership codes for PictureThis. You can still check it out (without the premium features) if you can ignore the nag screens, and of course I'm quite happy to recommend Pl@ntNet as a free alternative.
This is cool Jason. I used a plant ID site this summer for the first time. I didn't know there was anything like this but stumbled on to it and it helped me figure out what I planted. I didn't save the tag so forgot what it was. Amazing tool for gardeners.
This is brilliant never even new these apps were out there. Off to download and try on my blue rose. Bought 15 years ago and no idea what it is. I think it’s one of two but this might be the answer! Thanks Jason.
The best is when your government starts using it on it's own citizens but for certain applications like this it's great. I just wonder where we'll be down the line.
Off topic! I love your mahonias, they look great planted more than one ! Here in zone 6, they look beautiful in the snowy winter. Good topic and I have PictureThis free version now though paid one year.
I actually stumbled on google lens on my android phone by accident: had no idea it was there... Have found it immensely useful and can pretend my identification skills are better than they really are. 😎
The only plant you showed that I could identify myself was the mahonia! That's because I bought one for myself a couple of years ago and have it as an indoor plant. I'm happy to say it's not dead yet and actually appears to be thriving! "Not dead yet" tends to be my honest standard for my brown thumbs.
THANKS for the wonderful job, About the last shot it was better to take the photo from a different angle because a stem with fruitS and a thick stem (trunk) on the background could confuse the algorithms behind the plant identificationapps. but it was good that overally you werent soft on grading these apps.
Thank you for this information. Appreciate your advice which I only use Lens Google. I had another one but I discard it. Can't remember what it was about 4 yrs ago. It was a group of scientists/ agriculture or a group that will define even a foot print of a wild animal. I really can't remember the name !
Thanks Jin. Google Lens seems fairly good at the photo matching, but the results (for me) were a bit shallow - links to external websites of varying quality. With Pl@ntNet and PictureThis, the results were formatted quite well, with common & botanical name, plant family, and even sometimes growing tips. I like them all, but I think the dedicated plant ID apps still have an edge in usability.
Hi Jason Fire weed is a real pest over here. I live in the English Midlands it seeds everywhere. If you dig it up and break the roots it will keep going. It is a lovely flower but like dandelions it spreads by the wind.
Thanks Maudie. As with so many of these issues, it's very related to local conditions. When I first moved onto the farm (11 years ago) we had a small patch of fireweed in the front garden. I panicked a bit and dug them all out. Phew. Never saw another one again in the neighborhood until now. As I've learned in the meantime, the tall fireweed (Epilobium angustifolium) is a native pioneer species, and is rarely troublesome here like it's uglier (IMO) cousins E. hirsutum, E. ciliatum and E. brachycarpum. That may be a different story in England
I got the yearly sub to Picture this, this year to start identifying some of the plants in my back yard since I moved, I enjoy the interface and all the tip and tricks and information they give me when I'm able to ID a plant but it is very hit and miss on some types, it can at least narrow it down for me ill have to look into it more :)
Our team used two taxonomists who specialize in ID and the major apps were 38% accurate to genus and only 27% accurate to species. Cultivar is level is not happening since they don;t have that data. Google Lens still thinks our red rex begonia is a red maple and needs an arborist to trim it.
I find that photos of new foliage can result in a failure to identify. New foliage may differ from mature foliage in form and color. Cropping the image so that new foliage is excluded is one solution. Berry color can also affect whether or how a plant is ID’d. For example, Google Lens may have no problem identifying a plant with ripe berries but fail when the berries are still green. The accuracy of Google Lens might be improved if the photo had some indication of scale in the image. For example, are the adult leaves two inches or four inches long?
Thanks for the tips. I still go back to Plantnet in a pinch, and find the world flora category returns the right (or close enough) answer in the top 2 or 3 results.
Wonder how long it´ll take them to develop the same thing for people: you take a picture of them and it shows you name, address, social security number, health status, financial status including account access data etc.
Lol Peter. Actually, I think there was a time when Google Glass was being marketed to individuals as eyewear, and some of those very same privacy concerns were raised. It did a lot of the stuff that Google Lens can do now, but I'm not sure if it tried to ID people. Now I think they're limiting the Glass product to enterprise use (an AI augmented workforce doesn't sound too scary, does it?)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm the Chinese already have in operation what I described above, just not as an app but as a software connected to their ubiquitous surveillance cameras. quite frightening, cos this is going to be our future as well, under the excuse of crime prevention, of course.
Thanks Joanne. I only had the 5 codes, so sorry I can't help. They do have the free trial if you want to see the features, but I've also been quite happy with Pl@ntNet (for free)
That's a good point, and I probably should have spared a minute to say: plant ID apps rarely go down to cultivar level. They'll often get so far as identifying a rose as : 'Rosa chinensis' or 'Rosa x hybrida', but I already knew it was a rose. With thousands of cultivars in gardens, it really doesn't stand a chance. I'll look for an opportunity on a strawberry video.
Sorry, I just had the 5 codes. You can still download and test drive it (without extra features, and so long as you can ignore the nag screens) but I find Pl@ntNet equally useful and it's completely free.
Hi Patti. It's been a bit now, so it might be worth seeing how the tech has progressed but really after my assessment I settled on Plantnet because it's free and you can also just use it from your browser which is handy. It was as accurate as anything, so when I'm stuck or need a suggestion that's the one I use.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I suppose that's for some rose aficionado/group to devise?! Best guess at how many different roses are out there (Don't give yourself a headache!) Have a good week! :)
thanks for this! And heck yes, this is amazing technology!! Though, going to the library and getting field guides or area-based plant books will be a much missed experience in this coming age. 😢 Plant-net has the option of identifying by part (leaf, fruit, tree bark, etc.), not sure if Google can do that, but for sure Google will ultimately win the technology war very soon. Their camera recognition r&d has too much money to lose.
I agree that Google can win a battle purely on the technology, but they're not infallible, and sometimes they just pick the wrong functionality (think Google+ as an example). When I use PlantNet, it's focused on giving me a botanical name (which is what I want) and Google is more focused on giving me a matching search result (which still kind of results in the right answer, but I have to click though to make sure, and I'm ending up in an external website). Even if the results accuracy is similar, I'd still be inclined to prefer the usability of a dedicated plant ID app.
They're clever, but I don't know if it's good personally. Feels like all the years of plant knowledge I've built up are being rendered redundant. Anyone else feel like that?
That's an interesting point of view - I tend to think of it the opposite way: the software sharpens my own plant ID skills as I use it in the landscape. There are loads of plants I would have walked by and shrugged before, and now I can quickly ID and research them.
Lol. Definitely should have been less sweeping in that conclusion. When I'm looking for better evidence of progress than a plant ID app, I listen to Stephen Pinker: th-cam.com/video/yCm9Ng0bbEQ/w-d-xo.html and when I'm looking for a less optimistic / more cynical view on modernity, it's Russell Brand.
Hey there I know I’m number 42 I think but I’m a new gardener but I’m a gardener too I have texted this but I don’t always get everything right but maybe this is for everything else I did maybe the next time Platttnet
Hi Marwan. Sorry, the membership codes went pretty fast. You can still try out the app free (if you can ignore the nag screens) or I'd also encourage you to see if Pl@ntNet (the free one) meets your needs. I've enjoyed it a lot.
Thanks for watching. Sorry, I only had the 5 codes for membership and they went pretty fast. Definitely give Pl@ntNet a try tho - very worth the (free) cost.
Thanks - I've given away the 5 membership codes already, but I definitely recommend you try Pl@ntNet (the free one) or Google Lens to see if they fit the bill.
Thanks Cindy - I've given away the 5 membership codes already, but maybe check out the free ones and see how they work for you: Pl@ntNet or Google Lens
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Awesome thank you. Been enjoying your channel for a few months now since I got into planting roses around my home. Very informative
@@billallen6109 Click on Fraser Valley Roses on about page. Then after it loads, under the Fraser Valley Rose logo, there will be a blue icon envelope. Click on that. It will take you to email.
Thanks everyone for the quick response. I've given away all 5 premium membership codes for PictureThis. You can still check it out (without the premium features) if you can ignore the nag screens, and of course I'm quite happy to recommend Pl@ntNet as a free alternative.
Thank you for taking the time to get back to me. I really appreciate it.
Thank you for all the great info your share!
This is cool Jason. I used a plant ID site this summer for the first time. I didn't know there was anything like this but stumbled on to it and it helped me figure out what I planted. I didn't save the tag so forgot what it was. Amazing tool for gardeners.
This is brilliant never even new these apps were out there. Off to download and try on my blue rose. Bought 15 years ago and no idea what it is. I think it’s one of two but this might be the answer! Thanks Jason.
Best luck! So far I haven't found an app that will drill down so specific as a cultivar of rose, but I hope they'll eventually do so.
I’m always amazed at AI image recognition technology, pointing it at paintings, drawings and non-plant objects for surprises and laughs.
The best is when your government starts using it on it's own citizens but for certain applications like this it's great. I just wonder where we'll be down the line.
I live just across the border, and I can attest that Plantnet works very well for the plants in our area.
Thanks Doug!
Off topic! I love your mahonias, they look great planted more than one ! Here in zone 6, they look beautiful in the snowy winter. Good topic and I have PictureThis free version now though paid one year.
I’ve always wondered how reliable the identification apps are. Thank you for putting them to the test
I actually stumbled on google lens on my android phone by accident: had no idea it was there... Have found it immensely useful and can pretend my identification skills are better than they really are. 😎
It's my plant ID superpower! I'm not bad on my own (especially with perennials) but when it comes to trees, I'm clueless.
This was very helpful, many thanks pal!
Surprisingly good results, thanks for doing this
The only plant you showed that I could identify myself was the mahonia! That's because I bought one for myself a couple of years ago and have it as an indoor plant. I'm happy to say it's not dead yet and actually appears to be thriving! "Not dead yet" tends to be my honest standard for my brown thumbs.
Thanks for sharing Jason! I've never used these apps but will look into them.
Great idea for a video. I've used Google lens before and I didn't even realize it had plant identification. And I didn't know about plantnet
Thank you Jason for the sharing. From Malaysia with loves...
THANKS for the wonderful job,
About the last shot it was better to take the photo from a different angle because a stem with fruitS and a thick stem (trunk) on the background could confuse the algorithms behind the plant identificationapps.
but it was good that overally you werent soft on grading these apps.
I certainly want Picture This! Thanks
Thanks so much for this! Google lens has not done so well for me, on to plant net!
You bet - and BTW, it even has a website interface so that when I'm on my laptop I can still upload pics to Pl@ntNet for identification!
Thank you. Good to know.
Love your channel ❤. I do want picture this. Hope I get it.
I have picturethis and I love it!! Very helpful and very inexpensive for a year it's less than $20.
I want this app!!
Thanks Jason !
Thank you for this information. Appreciate your advice which I only use Lens Google. I had another one but I discard it. Can't remember what it was about 4 yrs ago. It was a group of scientists/ agriculture or a group that will define even a foot print of a wild animal. I really can't remember the name !
Thanks Jin. Google Lens seems fairly good at the photo matching, but the results (for me) were a bit shallow - links to external websites of varying quality. With Pl@ntNet and PictureThis, the results were formatted quite well, with common & botanical name, plant family, and even sometimes growing tips. I like them all, but I think the dedicated plant ID apps still have an edge in usability.
Yes sir, I am now using help me find. Good information sir👌💛👍
I want picture this! Appreciate your videos too!
Hi Jason Fire weed is a real pest over here. I live in the English Midlands it seeds everywhere. If you dig it up and break the roots it will keep going. It is a lovely flower but like dandelions it spreads by the wind.
Thanks Maudie. As with so many of these issues, it's very related to local conditions. When I first moved onto the farm (11 years ago) we had a small patch of fireweed in the front garden. I panicked a bit and dug them all out. Phew. Never saw another one again in the neighborhood until now. As I've learned in the meantime, the tall fireweed (Epilobium angustifolium) is a native pioneer species, and is rarely troublesome here like it's uglier (IMO) cousins E. hirsutum, E. ciliatum and E. brachycarpum. That may be a different story in England
I would appreciate picture this very much.
thanks
informative and pertaining to even more information, thanks kindly
I would love to try this app
I got the yearly sub to Picture this, this year to start identifying some of the plants in my back yard since I moved, I enjoy the interface and all the tip and tricks and information they give me when I'm able to ID a plant but it is very hit and miss on some types, it can at least narrow it down for me ill have to look into it more :)
Thank you.
Very informative...thanks!
Our team used two taxonomists who specialize in ID and the major apps were 38% accurate to genus and only 27% accurate to species. Cultivar is level is not happening since they don;t have that data. Google Lens still thinks our red rex begonia is a red maple and needs an arborist to trim it.
Thanks for those insights!
I find that photos of new foliage can result in a failure to identify. New foliage may differ from mature foliage in form and color. Cropping the image so that new foliage is excluded is one solution.
Berry color can also affect whether or how a plant is ID’d. For example, Google Lens may have no problem identifying a plant with ripe berries but fail when the berries are still green.
The accuracy of Google Lens might be improved if the photo had some indication of scale in the image. For example, are the adult leaves two inches or four inches long?
Thanks for the tips. I still go back to Plantnet in a pinch, and find the world flora category returns the right (or close enough) answer in the top 2 or 3 results.
Wonder how long it´ll take them to develop the same thing for people: you take a picture of them and it shows you name, address, social security number, health status, financial status including account access data etc.
Lol Peter. Actually, I think there was a time when Google Glass was being marketed to individuals as eyewear, and some of those very same privacy concerns were raised. It did a lot of the stuff that Google Lens can do now, but I'm not sure if it tried to ID people. Now I think they're limiting the Glass product to enterprise use (an AI augmented workforce doesn't sound too scary, does it?)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm the Chinese already have in operation what I described above, just not as an app but as a software connected to their ubiquitous surveillance cameras. quite frightening, cos this is going to be our future as well, under the excuse of crime prevention, of course.
Wow! You bet. Crime prevention or public health or some such!
Thank You
My pleasure!
I want pictures this !!!
I want picture this !!
Great. That's number 3. On my channel page open the "About" tab for my direct email address, and I'll send you the code.
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Such a good topic!
I would like to try Picture This. Thanks.
I use Google lens to ID the various plants that I come across
I want picture this!
I want picture this. Thank you!
Thanks Joanne. I only had the 5 codes, so sorry I can't help. They do have the free trial if you want to see the features, but I've also been quite happy with Pl@ntNet (for free)
I want picture this
Do you ever use apps for bugs/pests?
Thanks Holly. I haven't found (but nor have I been looking for) a pest ID app. That might be interesting.
Jason how does the picturethis do for you with your diffrent rose's?
Do you grow any strawberries 🍓, if you do could you do a video on them.
That's a good point, and I probably should have spared a minute to say: plant ID apps rarely go down to cultivar level. They'll often get so far as identifying a rose as : 'Rosa chinensis' or 'Rosa x hybrida', but I already knew it was a rose. With thousands of cultivars in gardens, it really doesn't stand a chance. I'll look for an opportunity on a strawberry video.
If I am not too late
I would appreciate the plant app
Sorry, I just had the 5 codes. You can still download and test drive it (without extra features, and so long as you can ignore the nag screens) but I find Pl@ntNet equally useful and it's completely free.
Hi Jason
Can you share one of the memberships
Thank you
I want Picture This please Jason. Thank you.
Hi. Just watching your plant ID video. I would love to have one of those gifted id apps if one is still available please. Dan
Thanks Dan. Sorry, the 5 memberships went pretty fast - but definitely give the free one (Pl@ntNet) a try and see what you think. I've liked it a lot.
Hi Jason. Concerned about the flooding. Are you okay?
Hi Deb. Thanks for the concern. The river and slough are pretty high, but everything is okay so far here
Do you still use/have Google lens? Your assessment of it with an iPhone/iPad?
Hi Patti. It's been a bit now, so it might be worth seeing how the tech has progressed but really after my assessment I settled on Plantnet because it's free and you can also just use it from your browser which is handy. It was as accurate as anything, so when I'm stuck or need a suggestion that's the one I use.
Thanks Jason, I think I might look into Google Lens for my Android - AHHH - but how are they with roses??
Not great. I don't even bother trying anymore. I know it's a rose - and the apps can't get me much further than that.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I suppose that's for some rose aficionado/group to devise?! Best guess at how many different roses are out there (Don't give yourself a headache!) Have a good week! :)
I would like to try Picture This. Thanks
Perfect. That's number 4. On my channel page open the "About" tab for my direct email address, and I'll send you the code.
thanks for this! And heck yes, this is amazing technology!! Though, going to the library and getting field guides or area-based plant books will be a much missed experience in this coming age. 😢
Plant-net has the option of identifying by part (leaf, fruit, tree bark, etc.), not sure if Google can do that, but for sure Google will ultimately win the technology war very soon. Their camera recognition r&d has too much money to lose.
I agree that Google can win a battle purely on the technology, but they're not infallible, and sometimes they just pick the wrong functionality (think Google+ as an example). When I use PlantNet, it's focused on giving me a botanical name (which is what I want) and Google is more focused on giving me a matching search result (which still kind of results in the right answer, but I have to click though to make sure, and I'm ending up in an external website). Even if the results accuracy is similar, I'd still be inclined to prefer the usability of a dedicated plant ID app.
I want picture this please
Can they do weeds?
Yes. I only had one weed in the video, but they seem to do well on all sorts of weeds.
I would like to try Picture This
Sorry, I only had the 5 free trial codes, but definitely try Pl@ntNet (completely free) and see how you like it.
I want picture this app.
They're clever, but I don't know if it's good personally. Feels like all the years of plant knowledge I've built up are being rendered redundant. Anyone else feel like that?
That's an interesting point of view - I tend to think of it the opposite way: the software sharpens my own plant ID skills as I use it in the landscape. There are loads of plants I would have walked by and shrugged before, and now I can quickly ID and research them.
"we're lucky to live in the age we're living in"
Hmmm..... it will take something more than a clever phone app to persuade me of this.
Lol. Definitely should have been less sweeping in that conclusion. When I'm looking for better evidence of progress than a plant ID app, I listen to Stephen Pinker: th-cam.com/video/yCm9Ng0bbEQ/w-d-xo.html and when I'm looking for a less optimistic / more cynical view on modernity, it's Russell Brand.
Guess you like living in a cave
What is the brand and model name of your jacket?
Sorry, I have no idea.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Ahh :)
Guess it is too late for that code?
Yes, sorry.
I want picture id
Hey there I know I’m number 42 I think but I’m a new gardener but I’m a gardener too I have texted this but I don’t always get everything right but maybe this is for everything else I did maybe the next time Platttnet
I want a copy please
Hi Gilda - this is an older video release, so the giveaway was already claimed.
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Hello Jason. I expect it is probably late to ask now, but if there is an available subscription then I want "Picture this", please. My name is Marwan
Hi Marwan. Sorry, the membership codes went pretty fast. You can still try out the app free (if you can ignore the nag screens) or I'd also encourage you to see if Pl@ntNet (the free one) meets your needs. I've enjoyed it a lot.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks Jason. No problem. I will try the other options. I always appreciate your videos 👍
I want Picture This. Please
Sorry, they 5 membership codes went pretty fast. I do encourage you to try out Pl@ntNet or Google Lens and see if they suit your needs.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm OK I got the notification upload from UT to late.
Please I want the picture this subscription
Thanks for watching. Sorry, I only had the 5 codes for membership and they went pretty fast. Definitely give Pl@ntNet a try tho - very worth the (free) cost.
Plantnet permissions "delete the contents of your SD card"....narrrrr.... I think I'll leave it😀👍
Good point. I don't why they'd need that particular permission.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Fantastic apps, but I approach them with the fear of a Granddad!
Is this free
Pl@net and Google Lens are free, but Picture This has a subscription for the premium version.
I want Picture This.
Great. That's number 2. On my channel page open the "About" tab for my direct email address, and I'll send you the code.
Plantne is t cool
I want picture this
I want picture this!
Thanks - I've given away the 5 membership codes already, but I definitely recommend you try Pl@ntNet (the free one) or Google Lens to see if they fit the bill.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you !
I want picture this please
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I want picture this
Thanks Cindy - I've given away the 5 membership codes already, but maybe check out the free ones and see how they work for you: Pl@ntNet or Google Lens
I want picture this
Nice. That's number 5, and the final free membership. On my channel page open the "About" tab for my direct email address, and I'll send you the code.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much! You’re awesome!
I want picture this
Great. That's #1. On my channel open the "About" tab for my direct email, and I'll give you the code.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Awesome thank you. Been enjoying your channel for a few months now since I got into planting roses around my home. Very informative
I'm not seeing an email on the about me section
@@billallen6109 Click on Fraser Valley Roses on about page. Then after it loads, under the Fraser Valley Rose logo, there will be a blue icon envelope. Click on that. It will take you to email.